Well the day that everyone was waiting for finally came; the release of the new 12611 dashboard also known as the Kinect dashboard. One of the main (and un-announced) features was the implementation of Anti-Piracy 2.5 or AP25.
Good to see but wonder how long it'll remain viable.
Let's hope the dashboard security update does.
the app 2.5 check has already been cracked by c4eva(the number one 360 firmware hacker). c4eva and team jungle are currently working on the LT+ firmware that will over come these checks. It should be released within the next few months(hopefully). Until then you can still play older games on your hacked 360 because the ap2.5 cant check them.
lol, according to hackers, these new security measures have already been defeated days before this article was published! http://forums.xbox-scene.co...
"C4E posted some updates about the Xbox360 fall2010 dashboard security on #[email protected] He reports the Update Process itself seems 'safe' atm, however that doesn't mean you can go ahead updating and booting everything you want. AP2.5 games are a problem/unsafe for sure (and we don't know exactly which titles all have or will have AP2.5 active). For the rest nothing is 100% confirmed safe atm." Seems they haven't cracked it yet.
In what you quoted, it's talking about updating dashboard on "currently available cfw." The hacker claims to have already beat the new security checks but just hasn't released his new cfw yet cuz he needs to complete testing: "[c4eva] ap2.5 already defeated, backup fable 3 running fine on beta dash! more data required for analysis!"
that even with the currently up to date crack it is not safe to play any games with the new anti-piracy software. Can't wait for him and all the piracy community to be found by Microsoft and banned.
Yes, that's exactly what I said but the guy named c4eva has claimed to already bypassed the new checks. This is also the guy who created all previous cfw. He just hasn't released the new cfw (that bypasses the new checks) yet. That's why the xbox-scene is telling people not to update dashboard. Man, that was the point I was trying to make. Reading fail. Again. I'm not going to continue arguing just because you can't read or understand the link properly.
"Can't wait for him and all the piracy community to be found by Microsoft and banned." Ok i'm gonna play the opposite side on this situation, but as much as wishful thinking that is, if they weren't all wiped out before, what makes you think they'll wipe them out now? I mean they can't even keep up PC security updates well, so what makes you think the same will be done on console?
MEAN! Good on ya MS! Hopefully this lasts for a while
the funny thing is Piracy is the only thing now, keeping 360 alive,.. unfortunate customers with large gaming libraries and maybe Skittles,.. lost that account,.. just got banned, I guess it reasonable to ban me,.. Have one bubble,.. because people and truth don't mix well,.. It has been proven 2010 years ago,..
Thats just dumb. Xbox is the fastest growing console and is still the #1 played console. There is no other that competes in quality gaming library and online services. The only thing keeping Wii alive is Mario, Zelda, and a few other exclusives as well as the ease of softmodding. The games are terrible and there little to no online experience. PS3 is hanging in there but the new Move is a desparate move to copy Wii and try to gain the motion population. I think the Wii controller is one of the worst controllers for about 90% of the games. I don't think Xbox or Kinect will have any problems for success with or without the anti-piracy thing. Besides it only applies to people with non-Samsung drives.
If you like shitty games that is, then yes, I agree.
The only reason i became a 360 gamer is because they are so easy to hack. I woulda just stayed with my ps3. Now my ps3 only gets turned on to play exclusives.
"If you like shitty games that is, then yes, I agree." You must have absolutely terrible taste in video games.
lol ddelella. Did you get your MS check in the mail yet?
wow your like a ms cheerleader you mention alot of good about it but where is the bad
@below *sigh* I guess if this was a Sony anti-piracy patch it would be uncrackable right?
WOW Just reading down from rekofs post you can see just how bias, simple minded and loaded with PS3 fanboys this site is.
You mean like how software sales in the US is still better on the Xbox 360 over the PS3 and Wii? Piracy must be killing the 360, but I would like to ask what is ailing the PS3 with no piracy?
Why do people think the USA is the ENTIRE planet? It is the only place where the Xbox360 still has a lead on ps3... and even Major Nelson admitted that the lead is now only 400.000 consoles... Scared much about your "sales"? I never understood why the hell people care so much about sales... i thought we gamed for, you know, THE GAMES?!
Hasn't it already been cracked? I'm sure there was an article on it earlier today...
I have never seen a tom waits avatar on here b4. My hats off to you sir. Greatest American songwriter of all times.!!
hell yes tom waits is the man
There will be an article on how to bypass this new security measure step by step. Gotta love N4G. I dont play the 360 but Microsoft needs to step up it's security measures.
It's only a matter of time until they crack it. "ALL Samsung drives are incapable of reading the new Security Sector v3 (another requirement for AP25) which in turn required Microsoft to turn off AP25 checks on any systems with Samsung disc drives." This is part of the article and it just shows how Microsoft must adhere to older models.
LOL The anti piracy in the new dashboard has been cracked already. Before you disagree with me read this for proof http://n4g.com/news/638967/...
This is not true!AP25 already exists from the earliest dashboards!COD BO works just fine on modded consoles using any FW and the latest dashboard!And the AP25 checks has already been neutralised by C4eva!AP25 was just a security check that wasn't active on later dashboard,but was already there and has been completely overrun by the to be release FW LT+!
nevermind..misread your comment
[email protected] enthusiasm for anti piracy tech... It only ever hurts legitimate customers. See DRM/online activation/DLC. Anti pircacy 'incentives' that screw everyone over. The funny thing is though...that pirates never have to deal with it, it's always cracked within days. @LevelHead I'm 100% certain that is the reason why we have online only MP. But I couldn't care about their monopolistic principles. If a game has a short ass single player and MP focus with no offline MP...I don't buy it. I'll tell you a funny joke: Ubisoft implements 'always on DRM' on PC...the next quarter they posted record losses, lolololololol I've got plenty more; EA implements always on DRM in C&C4...that game becomes to worse selling C&C game of all time.
Days? The new james bond game was released yesterday and was cracked yesterday too. The game is all over torrent sites.
The sad thing is the game will now sell less and the studio may not get as much funding next time for their new project. I believe this is why so many games have multiplayer on them now. It's really the easiest way to (try) counter piracy.
I doubt it will affect the sales in any noticeable way. Hardly anyone has a modded Wii. And, apparently you need to keep updating cfw and backup loaders to get new games working. I doubt the average Joe who got their Wii modded would be up to date with this. Remember, piracy is on the 360 too yet the huge sales never seem to be effected.
Im not too sure about that. I think it has made a serious dent in XBOX360 software sales. The Playstation 3 already surpassed it in software sales on a lot of titles. It may have even outsold the XBOX360 in total software sales this year. Sure that could also be attributed to there really isn't more XBOX360's out there due to hardware failures but nobody really knows.
true dat. I Still have the cracked version of Empire total war on my pc because I had so many problems with my legit steam version -_-
I have a whole bunch of steam games I can't play due to a constant barrage of updates my internet can't keep up with, for some reason my legit version of F.E.A.R 2 won't work either, it's fully updated and installed, it worked for years...now it says it's not ready to be played. I'm currently trying to go through my steam games and pirate each one I own so I don't have to deal with it anymore. I don't care what anyone says, steam is DRM and I've had more problems with it than even limited install DRM...
"I have a whole bunch of steam games I can't play due to a constant barrage of updates my internet can't keep up with" Sounds like user error to me. But, blame it on STEAM.
Good thing or bad thing? @Sunshine You're the 4th person commenting me about my avatar >__> It's just a big meathead with a small....head....Get over it people!
Your avatar? Bad thing, definitely a bad thing.
is madness... xD 5th!
sure the hackers will get round it
whats the point? hackers will beat it. just like they will find another hack for the ps3. To be honest I couldnt care less, I used to be offered pirate games buy one of my dads friends that used to come round way back when I was six, some sixteen years later I still dont get them, Pirates have been around for years, and if it didnt kill the ps2 (swap magic anyone?) then its not going to kill this gen, the devs themselves are wasting a lot of money combating something they cannot stop
They don't need to hack the ps3 again.they will remain at lower firmware.but they will patch the isos just like they did with moh.as for xbox its too late to stop piracy now.
true, bit like psp really, would be nice if I could back my games up on my ps3 though but not up for hacking that at all
This for sure wont stop piracy completely.
this new security is already cracked...but hey good thing that microsoft didn't REMOVE anything to fight piracy
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