gamesindustry.biz: Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has pointed out to investors that the Wii is still selling better than the PS2 was at this stage of its lifecycle in the US, with 27.14 million units sold after four years at market in comparison to PS2's 22.09 million.
The upcoming Nintendo console, rumored to be Switch 2, will have power closer to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One than the current-gen consoles.
That was obvious. It’s a handheld. DLSS will really boost the resolution and frame rate though and Ray Tracing will be great being Nvidia.
It does not make up for having noticeably weaker hardware. PS5 & Series X are having some trouble running a new UE5 title dude. DF demonstrated the fps & resolution of both consoles, both upscaling from 720p and having frame dips into the 40fps range and below on PS5, bit better on Series X but both are not ideal. The next Switch is not going to magically be able to run demanding UE5 titles very well, I guarantee they will be locked 30fps and likely with downgraded graphics over the other consoles.
Demanding third party titles should not be the focus, it would be better if Nintendo focus on first party games with games made well enough to run at a solid 60fps with good graphics, rather than push the machine beyond what it can do.
Well that's disappointing. I thought the switch 2 was more powerful than a ps5 with better ray tracing from what a lot of people have been saying.
Nintendo have been making weaker systems than their rivals for decades and they and their fans have been championing having weaker hardware. A lot of people loved talking about the portability of the switch and it being the only portable gaming system you can play modern games on but now the market has a lot of other portable gaming systems that's a lot more powerful than a switch and it's successor.
The switch 2 can't rely on just having a lot of ports of games especially from last generation because there are already very powerful portable gaming systems you can play games of every generation in high quality
I'm not sure what people have been saying that but you're more foolish than them if you believed it.
Current Switch is woefully underpowered compared to the Xbox Series consoles and PS5, yet there have been numerous months where it still outsells them both, especially in Japan. Switch is weaker than PS4 and Xbox One, yet it still outsold them both. The versatility of the hybrid home console/handheld nature of the Switch 2, coupled with Nintendo’s developer’s unmatched ingenuity, along side some key third party exclusives and multiplats spells success for the Switch successor yet again 😉
I knew from that matrix demo that unreal 5 wasn't very good for these consoles. Controversial but after some of the games that came out this year I think I preferred when there were cross gen games because these games with these ugly upscaling systems and inconsistent framerates end up looking worse than if they just had PS4 graphics but high Res and 60fps. Just don't make the games cross gen so you can take advantage of the SSD.
Nintendo never want to lose a dime on hardware so expecting more is just asking too much. They should be targeting something below XSX-PS5 not ps4 or Xbox one. We need good bit of power since by the time it launches will be 2024
6-8TF
12GB ram
1440P machine
Yeah, being "close to last gen in power" was what Switch was supposed to be, and it wasn't. Now they're saying that Switch 2 will still be stuck in last gen, when this gen's hardware is already showing its age. There's no excuse for cheaping out on hardware that much, Nintendo is getting greedy... you know they're still going to expect top dollar for the thing, at least as much as a Series S, which is what it should be comparing itself to.
Why is Activision leaking information about Nintendo? If I was Nintendo I would be looking at how MS/Activision leaked the info and why. Especially considering that we now know MS wants Nintendo out of console market.
the current switch is already at around the 1tf level which is just below the PS4/XBO. I think they mean Switch 2 will be more like a PS4 Pro or Series S in terms of being 4tf in power.
It will defo be 4tf. I reckon. Steam deck is 1.6 or something... rog ally is more But also Costs more.
I reckon with Nintendo's buying power they can get price down. But then again, this is Nintendo we're talking about.
But yeh also teraflops isn't everything
The Switch is several times weaker than the VCR Xbox.
The Tegra X1 chip inside the Switch is capable of running at 1GHz which would produce 512 Gigaflops of performance.
Nintendo has this chip downclocked to around 700 MHz so at maximum (when docked) it's GPU performance is 350~ Gigaflops. VCR box was 1.4 Teraflops by comparison. Just in GPU power, the VCR is around 4 times more performant.
The memory in the Switch is nearly 3 times slower than even the DDR3 memory.
Nintendo downclocked the CPU of the switch as well.
It's no mystery why the Switch wasn't able to keep up with the PS4 and X1 when they were its main competition.
I feel like I have made this point before but if you have a phone that was released within the last 3 years. The hardware in that phone would embarrasse the Switch in performance.
The Switch isn't a 1 Teraflop machine. It's a 350 Gigaflop system at best with anemic memory bandwidth. Even when compared to the original X1.
The PS4 and X1 are in a different league than the Switch
I remember RockStar developers explicitly stating that the Switch could not run RDR2. Rockstar are generally good at utilizing and pushing hardware. Rockstar not attempting RDR2 on the Switch was enough to prove the system wasn’t in the same power ballpark as the XB1 and PS4.
Just like the switch was close to PS3/360 when we were well into the PS4/XBOX1 era. But Nintendo has to stay in a certain price range in order to succeed. They should target a locked 60 fps over graphics imo.
And still not a single game on Switch looks and plays as well as games like FFXIII trilogy, Uncharted, Last of Us.
People say Switch is close to PS3/X360 era, but any game even trying to get close to graphics of that quality need ro be run through the cloud.
Just give me a real hardware with Zelda and Mario games looking like Ratchet and Clank. That would make me start playing Nintendo gamea again.
Come on, even the likes of the Steam Deck and ROG Ally can't run R&C perfectly, and they are higher powered but also expensive in comparison to the Switch. Nintendo will need to balance the power/cost ratio because if the Switch 2 cost in the region of £700 people just aren't going to buy it.
@Barlos
You are absolutely right, but I don't want a portable Nintendo console.
My best moments with Nintendo was NES, SNES, N64 and GameCube, and ever since I've only experienced disappointment.
For me personally, I want Nintendo to go back to 1 home console and 1 portable console.
I was never in for the Gameboy, Nintendo DS etc...
However I love Zelda, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime and enjoyed the Marios up to GameCube.
But I don't want to be limited by hardware. Once again, I want Zelda in graphics that wows me, that has full voice cast and 4k 60fps.
Bottom line, it will sell very well and will eventually have some must-have Switch2 titles. It should also be backwards-compatible with Switch titles.
Ya, its lost momentum in Japan