Play-mag: "We gave it 83% – a very good score – and it’s now being sold for sub-£25. So why haven’t you bought Enslaved yet?"
I just bought it since it's down to sub £25. That's because I'm poor tho. And honestly, I think people got way enough games they are playing right now. And there is also a few major titles coming out this month which some are waiting for. I think this game would have done better in a more open release window.
To be honest though, im waiting for Black Ops and Brotherhood, and I still afforded the game, so whats to say others cant?
The reason it sold poorly is that they put out a boring demo, and after that, a boring game... @ Below, yes I'm sure you can give a detailed run down of exactly which games I have played over the last 3 weeks, for how long, and how much I enjoyed them. I wrote a preview of the game based on the demo which I released before the game went on sale. Would you seriously try and suggest that by slamming it I am actually making it all up just to lower its sales. You fanboys are gonna drive me insane soon. Just to help, you'll have to cover 4 platforms...
@Tachyon_Nova Which you never even played...
1) The platforming plays itself 2) The combat is boring 3) Story doesn't carry a game by itself
sadly i dont give too much attention to multiplat games unless they are amazing. i bought RE5 bcoz of Move but i still find it tank-like (stop n shoot, come on!). so i have to finish that. i am playing F1 2010.. that also sucks bcoz every time you go to the pit stop you get stuck there n you have to start from the bottom. thats the problem with getting multi/average games. basically that's the reason i didn't get Enslaved n Vanquish. the multi-plat games really need to shine, otherwise it's a no no for me. i'm used to playing PS3 exclusive games, you see. the bar has really been set high. so is mine. i loved HS. it's still my one of the fav.
After they called Enslaved "the new Uncharted" available now for the 360", I'm never gonna buy this overrated game. I have six games planned out for the holiday season anyway and I already bought 3 of them. GT5, Brotherhood, Black Ops, FIFA 11, LittleBigPlanet GOTY and FF13. Sorry Enslaved :P
I think new IP titles need to be released in the summer, away from the fall / autumn rush so they dont get overlooked.
Ninja Theory displayed a fair share of bravado leading up to the release, making their game out to be something it wasn't. Then they churned out this game with: 1) Animation & frame rate issues - particularly bad at times when things get intense (PS3 version here) 2) Clunky and fairly shallow combat 3) An anticlimactic WTF type of ending 4) Short length (without a "bang for the buck" factor to make up for it) It's not a bad game. I actually enjoyed it despite it's flaws (the cut scenes & story were actually pretty well done). But it was never going to top the sales charts. And yeah, the release window certainly didn't help anything.
Bad publishing, the game released in the same day as castilvania, a much better game.
these made real gamers stay back! cocky bastards! and never bad mouth nor mess with the PS3, Ninja Theory never ever
This game would have done better released in December. It's not a bad title either but it's not slice cheese. Think everyone was focused on other games or waiting on Call of Duty. October Games: http://www.vgreleases.com/R...
Maybe if Ninja Theory didn't talk so much garbage, I would've bought their crappy game. Instead, I rented it.
Exactly onesneakymofo, I did the same and to be honest I agree with holy Orange cows, especially that the platforming plays itself. Not a bad game, but as I said in my previous posts the poor attitude of nt towards fans of heavenly sword and ps3 in general left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't want to be told I'm a moron for liking a previous work that they weren't happy with.
I haven't bought Enslaved because I'm not interested. I don't care if a game gets a perfect score by all critics. If it doesn't appeal to me, I won't get it.
Most people are just waiting for black ops. The masses were bought into the call of duty franchise by MW2 so they expect something similar from Black ops. Im sure most are holding out for black ops, need for speed, GT5, assassins creed etc... The longer people wait the cheaper enslaved will become.
no its the games marketing and the game developers' fault. if Ninja Theory had: a) given MORE value to the game (I disagree with this necessity but most gamers look for VALUE per buck, and a 5-7 hour experience without some sort of selling point (HR and its unique experience, GOWIII and its jaw dropping shit-yourself content worth replaying, Vanquishe's unique and addictive replay-ability, etc) Enslaved came across as a "great experience n then put it away" which now days just doesn't work (especially for a new IP) b) hadn't b!tched so much and hyped the game over the top. this didn't effect the sales over all with the general public, but informed gamers (a decent majority, not just on N4G but over the internet) got possibly put off by the constant smack talk c) made the game more challenging: now I haven't played it, but reading a lot of reviews I noticed people mentioned the game had hardly any "challenge". all the platforming was fixed, you couldn't even die during those stages, and the fighting although very entertaining didn't have that "threatening" aspect to it. Now, of course this doesn't mean it isn't still a great game, maybe they did this purposefully to sell to more casual people (along with cartoony colour, PGI 13, etc) but if thats the case then you need to market your game more. I think NT just got lost between who they wanted to sell to (please noobish challenge phobic casuals AND hardcore gamerS) and ended up missing both demographics. too bad, because a new IP needs to sell well to continue (and even Dead Space sell badly but better than this + got cult following...)
...after reading about them bitching about HS one of my most favorite games up to the release I lost any and all interest is buying this game. I'm sure I'll rent it eventually but someone else commented that it takes more than just story to sell a game and I've been told that some are confusing excellent mocap and facial animation for story which a pal of mine told me isn't all that great.
I am NOT waiting for Black Ops and have been done with the Call of Duty franchise since Infinity Ward was sacked, so I guess I have plenty of time to play other stuff right now. I really enjoyed Enslaved. I would rate it around 8.5/10. There are technical issues, and it pisses me off that a much older game like Heavenly Sword has superior audio, but this is counterbalanced by excellent storytelling, great characters, and gorgeous art direction. I'm glad I bought it.
Yep i loved it also. AMAZING game. Good variety, the story was very good, great graphics, fun platforming, and great great great characters and character growth. It failed for the same reason alan wake failed, overshadowed by a huge release. Enslaved and alan wake are two of the best games of the year but both released at the worst possible time. Oh well i enjoyed the hell out of them.
I feel it failed on PS3 for reasons a lot of games succeed on 360. Fan power.. PS3 fanboys feel betrayed by the crap ninja theory have been saying about PS3 and the failure of there last game even though only a few million ps3s were out at the time and the fact they went multi-platform because yes fanboys really do base there buys on pitiful things like games going exclusive/multi-platform.
Pretty sad if true. Game sales should be based on how good the product is and how much value there is. Not on if they promote the platform or speak against it. I think it sold poorly do to not much marketing which new IP's need and being released at a very busy time of the year.
its failed on both systems though. according to the same source (VGcharts) the xbox 360 version is barely 1,000 sales over the ps3 version. So you're idea MAY effect the PS3 sales, but there's still the fact it did bad on the other platform as well. I'm guessing that most people either bought MOH or are waiting for COD.
I only have a PS3 and I don't intend on ever buying an Xbox 360, even though there are games on it I would like to play. However, I will probably never buy a Ninja Theory game not because they make multiplatform games, which a lot of companies I support do, but because their games just don't interest me. Their character designs are strange looking and bland in my opinion, and nothing they've done has ever peaked my interest. I've never played a Devil May Cry game before either, but if I ever decide to get one, it will be one that isn't made by Ninja Theory.
i haven't bought it for these reasons 1. The game is like 6 hours and was released at full price 2. i personally hate robots as video game enemies, they are so uninteresting to kill, the only game with robots that i like is R&C and that's because of the awesome weapons. 3. I played the demo and it just didn't appeal to me, it felt like some weird cross between uncharted, god of war and POP i probably get it when it drops to like £10 on Amazon, and that's just gonna be for the trophies, however i wonder who Ninja Theory is gonna blame for the poor sales of this game.
and it failed miserably to meet the mark. Evident in the demo.. then the scores came in just to add insult to injury. The game was meh at best, and should be half off for the half effort.
But that's because I was waiting for this game. Some people were keeping their money for other things, nobody is to blame here. October had many games coming out. Edit: "I think this game would have done better in a more open release window." Completetly agree on that xYLeinen.
I picked it up day 1 - solid 8/10 game
It's 8/10, not 7.5 or 8.5 There were some technical issues and poor gameplay choices, but in the end, the whole experience was great. People should consider getting it one day.
Currently playing Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2, and waiting for Black-Ops.
Seriously? Those games over Enslaved? Wow... Edit: I know its his personal opinion, but still, Enslaved is a quality title. Inticing narrative, amazing facial animation, superb acting, brilliant design, all that over an FPS, a zombie game, and a dissapointing RPG?
to each their own.. although a lot of people won't admit it, but we are all waiting for blackops lol
its his personal opinion.
Yes seriously those games over Enslaved (even if they dont interest me so far) . You listed a bunch of things and statements that are true .. however you know what's missing ? Enslaved nailing its gameplay , while all the titles he mentioned did . None of the above got clunky controls with latency and boring automatic platforming . Hell , Fable might be over simplificated , but you are still in control and not just mashing around .. plus the controls are responsive and tight
erm some people prefer multiplayer smash em up and RPG's compared to action titles I too am the same and would choose them titles over enslaved. It's mostly about genre favouritism. I am an RPG lover myself it's why I was an early adopter of 360 and stuck with it through 3 of them till they all died (and vowed never to get another). I eve play what most consider terrible RPG's because I find enjoyment in them. People get entertainment out of different games.
Quagmire, You just described a movie. Games need to also be "Not boring"
More like Enticing narrative until it gets WAY to cheesy way to fast, amazing facial animation(yup), superb acting that's badly directed, and mediocre-at best-design. Ninja Theory almost got it right, maybe if they weren't so into themselves they would've caught on to the games obvious flawed presentation and tweaked it. They're the type of company that screams, "we're artist, we want it that way. you just don't understand." Typical snobby art snobs.
I didn't get it because I thought the demo was just "ok". Plus, still playing Red Dead Redemption.
killzone 3 beta and castlevania. The next games i buy will be red dead redemption, fallout and borderlands goty i will pick up enslaved at some point. The demo was kinda boring tho but people are saying the full game is alot better
same thing w/ me ,,,kz3 beta and castlevania have been holding my interests as of late
im finding castlevania harder than demon souls bro all this repetition is having an affect on my sanity lolz i am playing it on hard i know but every enemy type needs to be attacked methodically if you try the same tactic over and over your screwed!!!!!!!
Well i blame Ninja Theory for going multiplat. Maybe if they made a Heveanly Swords 2, they would make real money.
That's what i also was thinking, they have really blame them self for this choice for multiplat. The same will happens with Insommaniac. Who was disagree with me?, is it so difficult for a opninion? ----------------------------- ---------------------- I disagree with some point of yours and the main reason for incorrect words like using fanboy. "Apparently they made a loss on Heavenly Sword. But don't let facts get in the way of your fanboy delusions." Why using fanboy words? This has nothing to do with fanboy stuff. I agree it was expenisve and lose money but they investing theire first PS3 game, becouse back than it was difficult and expensive but we are now 3 a 4 years later it should be cheaper and more efficiency by now. Instead they going backwards.
You guys don't get it do you. You seriously think being PS3 exclusive is good for sales, get real. Look at how 360 exclusives sell and then look at PS3 exclusives. anyway, I largely don't care about sales though, so I'll just say this, if you are really a fan of Insomniac and not just a PS3 fan, you will go out and buy their multiplat just as eagerly as you would a new Resistance or R&C, because let's be honest, it's gonna be awesome coming from them! Edit @ Above: Don't give me this sh** that it has nothing to do with fanboy delusions. HS2 would have sold more if they made it, but it has nothing to do with going multiplat. Enslaved is a new IP that let's be honest looks pretty bland released in a crowded environment. THAT is why it sold poorly, not because it's on 360 as well.
Insommaniac isnt Ninja Theory.They dont bash the PS3 like Ninja Theory did.They praise it and also make ps3 exclusive games on ps3 like Rachet and Clank and Resistance even they are going Multiphat.Insommaniac respect sony more than any other third party developers do and still loyal to sony.Insommaniac Multiphat game is gonna sell good if it is Good as Enslaved.
Yeah i know... And that Tachyon_Nova dude...You wanna know why xbox games sell more than ps3? Maybe its because the xbox was released a year BEFORE the ps3? Also, you fanboy how would you feel if bungie makes a halo game on ps3? Or Epic games make a multiplat game that doesn't even sell half of what Gears Of War sold? Listen i'm gonna go give in trade in my copy of Enslaved, because i rather play Heavenly Swords, than that Bad-Wannabe-Copy of uncharted 2...Yes i said it people! I own the game, it sucks!
Apparently they made a loss on Heavenly Sword. But don't let facts get in the way of your fanboy delusions. http://playstationlifestyle...
I personally think NT are just whiny turds. Oh well, HS2 would have been great.
1.5 million copies on a game that was released when the console was launched?? That did extremly well if it was released today with the amount of ps3's in the world it would have sold much more. They blamed sales yet didn't realise that comes with a new console launch especially when a lot of people had already bought a 360 while waiting for ps3.
They made a much bigger loss with Enslaved..
HS2 it would have definately sold more than this game. The problem is i think they pissed of the HS fans they made by constantly whining about HS sales as like its fans that bought HS were worthless. They really have no one to blame but them selves and i hope other devs that tries to be big from the get go would learn from them. Truth is when you start out you try to get some credit first and try to build a fanbase first. NT never really had a big fanbase especially after constantly dissing HS. NT never really have a big reconisable franchise that people would flock to by name alone. Red Dead redemtion is from Rockstar and Castlveina is Castlveina and who is NT and what is Enslave?. They should build their fanbase first as well as their portfoilo.
not only is HS FAR more established as a franchise/IP, it got a cult following AND has brand recognition (Sony / PS3) even being exclusive, HR2 would have absolutely sold more, esp. if it had gotten the UNCHARTED 2 treatment well, now NT will stop b!tching about poor HS sales on PS3....serves them right in a way, karma IS a b!tch =/
" The problem is i think they pissed of the HS fans they made by constantly whining about HS sales as like its fans that bought HS were worthless." Exactly, that and leaving out decent sound over toslink meant it was a rental for me. Been playing it, made the right choice.
It was the perfect storm for lack of sales. 1) Use UE3. Lazy devs. 2) Diss your fanbase and their console(HS & PS3) 3) Give interviews stating how lazy you are and how much you dislike PS3. Those three things made me not even look at enslaved. Ninja Theory - How's that 360 fanbase treating you since they are so much better?
I never understood NT dissing of HS and PS3. I mean why? why on the verge of releasing a new game you piss on the fans that bought your first one. Even if you go multiplat, it is not wise to piss likely to be your biggest market. That and the lack of a DAY ONE factor in the game. I'll buy Enslaved at some point. No urge in playing it.
Waiting till they break news that they were just joking about that guy being Dante.
The game is shoooooooooooort, beaten in less than 4 hours. 0 replay value. The controls are clunky and there's a hell of latency in the controls. It came out together with Castlevania that is a whole better experience and a better value for your money. Add that Ninja Theory turned their back on PS3 users and that they will mess up Devil May Cry and you'll have more than a good reason why most of gamers will refuse to buy this game, and I understand them.
I thought it was a pretty good game personally myself. The framerate could've used some more work, but overall its a good game.
tbh I wouldn't even pay £15 for it but less than that I would consider.
I am enloying the game. I plan to get the platinum for it as I am enjoying it so much.
Launching new IP is always hard. Enslaved had little hype and launched at a time when gamers have a lot of choice. I liked the demo and I'm really looking forward to this game - but I had other stuff to play so didn't bother buying it Day 1.
Ninja Theory just cant catch a break.
not a fan. My reason.
The PS3 users dont like ninja theory… ever since their boss left they have been a bunch of douch bags… first they claimed that enslaved was the next uncharted graphics wise…(blasphomy) then they dissed the PS3 by stating that it was impossible to work on…. and then they claimed they would not make heavenly sword 2…. and lastly they turned Dante into a homo… not that being gay is bad… but its certanly not badass! but honestly gow 3 only sold 3 mill in one year… games burn slowly on ps3
Gow only selling 3 million got little to do with the ps3 . The genre never sold above , be it for gow , dmc , heavenly sword , ninja gaiden , darksiders , bayonetta , prince of persia , etc etc . In this multiplayer driven era , there is no way a genre about fighting all the time , with combos sometimes hard to boot , alone in a relatively short campaign . And ninja theory's failure with Enslaved got nothing to do with the ps3 neither : 1. The game sold way better on ps3 2. The general public doesnt care for game devs interview , or isnt even aware of whatever crap they say . Us same 10-20 guys complaining regularly on a forum or multiple forums wont change a thing , Stop believing in the so called power of fanboy backlash 3. Only dmc fans , wich arent that numerous to begin with care about ninja theory's butchering of the game
What game sold way better on PS3? If your talking Enslaved then they are within a hairs breadth of each other at the moment. On current VZgChartz data, 360 version is in front on 76,607, while PS3 is on 75,327
I don't understand, why do I have so many disagrees?
I got Castlevania instead which is still selling ok in the UK, yes its sub £25 but its still in the top 20 Enslaved however is nowhere to be seen,I will pick it up at some point but I prefer to get Vanquish at the moment
Actually, it's the fault of the reccession - I can't afford to pick up anywhere near as many games as I used to. One full priced title every couple of months if I'm lucky. So basically shut and stop telling me things are 'my fault'...
well instead of promoting the damn game they chose to spend much time venting about Heavenly Sword ,was this ...was that blah blah didn't make money... and all that crap talk day in day out