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Casual Difficulty: How Short Is Too Short?

It's disheartening to hear people complaining about how "short" a game like Vanquish is. If games are so culturally significant, why do we insist on evaluating them based on how “filling” they are? If a game’s not worth savoring, is it really worth consuming?

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DigitalAnalog4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

As long as the pacing and the delivery is excellent. Unless of course the game REALLY has a story to tell. If people do complain about length, then we would see a rise of "open-world" video games. And quite frankly, that type of genre is usually a hit and miss: GTAIV was damn boring, RDR had at least a decent story, inFamous got too repetitive, AC I & II have a rinse-n-repeat missions. The only FUN open-world I've ever played is Zelda, Yakuza 3 and SoTC.

I'd support more games like Uncharted as I feel I've actually played a full experience even if it's small. Want longer gameplay, don't be a wuss and go "hard" mode at least.

-End statement

NYC_Gamer4931d ago

well i wont spend my money on 4hr games atleast give me around 10hrs

Neckbear4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

...I'm happy with it. Seriously. If it drags on too much, then no, thanks.

Also, the article makes some great points. What's so wrong about having a short game, if it's an incredible one? I've already put some serious hours on Vanquish- more than I ever have with any other Shooter. That is mainly because the game is simply a delight to play.

I've also put some serious hours on Elite Beat Agents, as well as other music games- despite being somewhat "short", I just love them.

And oh, the old days with Ikaruga...I had the GameCube version, god, it was glorious.

Anyways, back to the topic: People really miss the point. A game isn't about having a cinematic experience then dropping it- it's about enjoying the gameplay and just loving every second of it. Seriously, people. They're GAMES, not movies.

GiantJedi4930d ago

Depending on what game it is, I kinda like them short...sometimes if its really long the game might drag out too long.

MorganX4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

Actually, a 4-hr game for a hardcore gamer is probably 10-12 for a casual gamer. Most people play a few hours a weekend.

Harcore gamers buy/rent just about every game in their preferred genres and play them in marthon sessions. Usually completing a game in a weekend. I don't even know how you can enjoy story and art just plowing through games but to each his own.

That is why Kinect is going to be good for the industry. There are millions of casual gamers that aren't gaming right now. While I don't want a Kinect, the influx of casual gamers will be good for the industry.

Hardcore gamers can't even do an open-minded review anymore. It's a rehash of this, of that. Probably seems that way when you've played everything.

Tomb Raider, Uncharted, and most other action adventures are a rehash of Pitfall Harry for Atari... but not really.

Every game can't be Prince of Persia or Demon Souls. Who wants to constantly die and do over. People play games to experience story, gameplay, art. So really, it depends on who's doing the judging. 4hrs is probably good for casual gamers, and gamers who have jobs and failies, if it's a hardcore gamer who says it's 4hrs.

I would say FPS' are a hardcore genre, so 4hrs would be too short. TPS are much more varied in their audiences and it just depends on the game, who's playing it, and what they find enjoyable.

Neckbear4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

I agree with part of your post- (unpleasable fanbase) but the other part? (hurr casualz will saev gaemz) Not really.

Why? Because companies will see those mindless sheep called "casual" gamers, and will develop low-quality games that those people will enjoy.

I play games for a challenge. I love "Nintendo Hard" (Going by Tvtropes here) games. I completly hate games that seem like they were made by failed Movie Directors. Yes, I love a nice story once in a while, but it has to be something special that does NOT forget it's a game (NieR) instead of just trying too goddamn hard (Heavy Rain.)

Games aren't about art, nor interactive movies. Sure, they can be so, but...would you really like a failed movie to take over a great game with great gameplay?. They're supposed to be a form of entertainment, and that fills up both movies-wannabes and great GAMES, sure, but I like games more.

Anyways, back to the point: Casual Gaming will kill Hardcore Gaming. Wanna know why? Because it's an easy way to make cash, and that's all publishers (and hell, some developers) care about.

Yes, there are still fellows who make GREAT games, but hell, those great games do NOT equal good sales.

By the way, I would consider Call of Duty and Halo casual games. They don't bring much new to the table, their main consumers are basically mindless kids and whatnot. Those ARE casual games, and no, they're not "hardcore" because they have guns.

@MorganX

"No need to fear, hardcore games are here to stay. There's plenty of room for both."

I hope so, but I'm quite pesimistic sometimes.

Hopefully that IS true, though.

MorganX4930d ago

Hold on. I didn't say casuals will "save" gamez. I said there are millions of gamers and getting them to buy games will be good for the industry.

There's plenty of shovelware now. Nothing will change. There's plenty of crappy hardcore games.

If anything casual gamers will subsidize hardocre game development. Casual gamers don't buy as many games as hardcore gamers, and buy lots of arcade games and avatar stuff.

No need to fear, hardcore games are here to stay. There's plenty of room for both.

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Best Sci-Fi Games on the PS3

From the cosmos to crash-landing back on good old planet Earth, come read through the best sci-fi-nastically games on the PS3

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zaanan11d ago

Not a single Reistance? Fuck this article.

mastershredder11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Starhawk over Warhawk?...... Dude, NO ONE should listen to you.

Odd choices for "best" more like you settled as these being the "best" that available to you at the time, cause a lot of these blow or were average to poor performers that ended up in bargain bin.

Missing too many great sci-fi titles here. The Void, The Resistance Series, Killzone 2 and 3, Enslaved, man.. there were so many, this is redicu-list.

FreeckyCake11d ago

Nobody should listen to you either with that attitude.

OtterX11d ago

I agree that Starhawk shouldn't be above Warhawk, however I must say that Starhawk multiplayer was incredible for its time! Many people wrote it off bc the single player was quite terrible, bc it was basically 1 huge tutorial for the multiplayer. But I can tell you never spent any significant amount of time in MP. It was doing incredibly tense base building w air, foot and land vehicle (and mech!) combat long before Fortnite was ever a thing.

I bet it would have been much better received if it had just ditched the story mode all together. So many people like yourself completely wrote it off based on reviews by reviewers that let the criticism of single player weigh heavily on their scores. I bet you didn't even play it.

Friendlygamer11d ago

The riddick games are some of the best stealth titles ever, highly underrated

YourMommySpoils11d ago

What games? All recall plating was Escape from Butcher Bay.

Friendlygamer11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

There's also the less acclaimed 'assault on dark Athena'

( also, not saying this to you specifically but there's both resistance and killzone games on the list, it's amazing how even something so simple and innocent as a game list can be turned into misinformed vitriol here lol )

jznrpg11d ago

Glad to see Resonance of Fate. Enslaved was pretty good too. I’m sure there are others nobody has listed but I’m too tired to try and think of anything

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25 Best PlayStation 4 Sci-Fi Games

Embark on a thrilling sci-fi adventure with our carefully curated list of the best PlayStation 4 sci-fi games

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Leeroyw325d ago

Titan fall 2 was chefs kiss. For those of you who haven't played it go ahead. Brilliant. With each level being creatively different.

Yui_Suzumiya324d ago

Island, Steins;Gate Elite and Soma.

MadLad324d ago

Soma is an epic experience.

jznrpg324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

Does ISLAND have English subs ? I can’t find a copy that says it has English subs for PS only the Switch version which I rather not buy .

Love Steins Gate and Soma

shinoff2183324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

FRom what i could find. Nothing with English subs.

Yui_Suzumiya323d ago

I own a physical copy on Switch and it does have English subtitles so it's all good on Switch and Playstation.

Yui_Suzumiya323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

My bad. Steam and Switch have English but PS4 and Vita only have Japanese. Sony doesn't mess with many visual novels which is why I only own a Switch OLED and laptop for all my games.

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10 Most Underrated Third-Person Shooters

GF365: "Here are our picks for the ten most underrated third-person shooters that you might not have played before or even known about."

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neutralgamer1992359d ago (Edited 359d ago )

Actually great list TBH I agree with all 10

I hope one day we get some remakes for the following

The saboteur(with a proper remake and quality of life features this game could be great)
Scarface world is yours
Binary domain ( such a great game with great story)
GUN(this needs a remake)
Space marine 40k(such fun time)

Would also like to suggest adding the mercenary series even the 2nd game which is disliked by many is a fun time

cthulhucultist359d ago

I recently finished Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine and found it to be very enjoyable.

The game respected the lore and the gameplay was quite decent.

The color palette was a bit underwhelming (backdrops and setting) and recycled but I think that it deserved better.

Here's hoping for an amazing sequel

Vengeance1138359d ago

Space Marine II !! My most anticipated game of 2023! Woot