Fallout: New Vegas Hardcore Mode Special Reward Revealed

Fallout: New Vegas was released just Tuesday in North America and just yesterday in Europe. New Vegas is about the player being betrayed and left for dead. After being patched up by the doctor while simultaneously creating your character, you’re left with an option before heading out of the operations room. To switch Hardcore mode on (which isn’t recommended) or keep it off and play the game Fallout 3 style.

[rroded]

"drum roll please. The Hardcore trophy/achievement. Unfortunately, yeah that is it"

damn that bites some bonus missions woulda been cool or at least a new wep or safehouse or something...

[T9X69]

What bites is I just got this achievement, reloaded my game and 20min later my game froze. Loaded the game back up, load save, "This game save relies on DLC which is no longer available. Some objects may not load correctly, do you wish to continue?"......uh ok sure, "The storage device you selected in no longer available. Failed to load save."....booted to the main menu. Now all my saves are corrupt, not just that one, and 50 hours is gone, and I didn't get nothing but that damn achievement. I'm throwing this POS up on Craigslist.

[itani]

Wow, I really feel it for you. I got a game breaker glitch where it wouldn't allow me to enter the Strip without a key even though I've been in and out enough times.

I read online if you kill one of the Securitrons outside, they each have a key.

[T9X69]

Wow that sucks, I heard of a few people that had that problem. I honestly really enjoyed this game, and even though the game had tons of frame rate issues, freezing, etc. I can get passed that, and deal with, not to much of a problem. But I invested so much time into one save and still had TONS of stuff to do and having to restart due to something out of my control, just kills the motivation for doing it again, especially if the same thing happens.

What's even worse is, it actually let me load my other save that I had 10 hours on, so I was like okay whatever at least I don't have to completely restart. That save is saved inside Lucky 38 in the Penthouse, but when I click on the elevator, nothing happens. So my only working save is stuck and I can't get out and I HAVE to restart.

I knew this game would have problems before I bought it, just like Fallout 3 did, but I didn't expect this shit. This kind of bug is unacceptable.

[NeoMagus]

Itani,

I had the same problem try to go in the north entrance of the strip and says requires key, if you are not hated by the NCR you can go to their camp with the monorail use that to get into the strip then exit through where it requires the key and it should fix it

[Dark_Vendetta]

@1.1 that really sucks, but I heard that they've released a patch via STEAM to fix the savegame (or to prevent it of getting corrupted?), so I would wait a few days and hope they soon release it for the consoles

[Bobbykotickrulesz]

lol a trophy? I mean hey, it's fun playing on hardcore mode and that in itself is a reward, but they shouldn't fucking advertise it at the start of the game like you're going to get something really cool, only to find that it's just a stupid trophy.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Cool, sure. But the real reward is a better game.

[wicko]

Exactly. Expecting a reward of some kind is pretty stupid.

[kaveti6616]

You work for Obsidian don't you? This game is glitchier than fallout 3.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Play the game on console and that's what you get I guess. I have only had one crash after 22 hours of play.

More glitches than Fallout 3? lol, no. Where were all the complaints when Bethesda released this same technically hobbled game two years ago?

Regardless, measure what actually counts (as in what makes a good rpg) and New Vegas is far superior to Fallout 3 in its systems, leveling, tone, writing, world layout, etc.

[kaveti6616]

"Where were all the complaints when Bethesda released this same technically hobbled game two years ago? "

Lmao. That's the reason I hate Obsidian. They release the same fucking game with no improvements and then are like, "WTF guys? How come Fallout 3 got so much praise?! Derp Derp!"

Fallout 3 was glitchy but it was a good game and it was one of a kind. Obsidian released essentially the same game with barely any improvements and you're saying they're justified.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

And you're saying it's justified that Bethesda gets a free pass, it's absolutely no different. They are both glitchy games, but most of the blame lies with Bethesda seeing as they built this crap game engine and have struggled to release a functional game twice now using it.

The improvements in New Vegas are substantial. Working within the shitty limits that Bethesda defined with Fallout 3, Obsidian has done an excellent job of making this the modern equivalent to the old Fallout games that Bethesda was too untalented to achieve.

The problem is that you probably grew up with Mass Effect and Oblivion as the standard to which hold rpgs to, so if you believe Fallout 3 is a good Fallout game you're speaking from a completely ignorant position.

[kaveti6616]

If the engine is so glitchy, then why did Obsidian use it. How come they didn't use their own engine that they built for Dungeon Siege? How come Bethesda is getting blamed just because Obsidian lacks the talent to actually make their own games?

Bethesda gets a free pass because they made a great game that happened to be glitchy. Obsidian made a sequel 2 years later that has seen few to no visual improvements and few to no technical improvements.

Bethesda has done more with the Gamebryo engine than you can imagine. There have been dramatic graphical improvements between TES Morrowind and Oblivion. They both run on the same engine. That shows that Bethesda is talented. They make great games. Even if their games have bugs, it's a fair tradeoff.

Obsidian are not good developers. They're a B team. That's it.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Because Obsidian had a two year time frame to finish the game, and clearly Bethesda wanted to maintain systemic and formal similarity with Fallout 3.

"There have been dramatic graphical improvements" does not constitute a good game or a good developer, especially considering we are speaking about a decade time span here. Again you mention nothing about the content, the level balancing, the writing, quest structure, etc. of these games (as in things that actually matter to an rpg). In this sense, Bethesda fails miserably. This is an objective fact to anyone who has played the old Fallout games.

[JsonHenry]

For me the reward is a much better game. Playing in hardcore makes me feel more immersed in a wasteland than without it. And to be honest, unless you are playing as a melee character, it really isnt that much harder.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Agreed. It isn't harder so much as your inventory and leveling decisions take on a lot more weight and meaning.

[King-Leonidas]

you know when you get kicked in that place between the balls and the anus? Yeah, that's it feels like.

[nunley33]

I pre-ordered New Vegas and got the vault 13 canteen so staying hydrated isn't a problem in hardcore mode. maybe a new game plus ?

[FACTUAL evidence]

They could of at least gave psn an avatar picture, and psh rewards, and 360 could of got avatar clothing, and an avatar picture.

[itani]

I know, that's why I was surprised. I mean what the hell, everyone knows they will get the trophy/achievement upon completion!

[leonlion]

That one step closer to platinum

[dirtydbz]

it's only a gold trophy on ps3 sux right

[Brewski007]

Thats sure as hell is one waste of time.

[Mmmkay]

if you care about the gameplay you'll get the trophy anyway....

[asyouburn]

its about beating it on hardcore mode

[falloutx]

I already got 50% of the trophies hardcore mode included.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I knew there was an achievement for this reward. Anyone who did not was kidding themselves.

[TABSF]

Couldn't careless about the trophy/achievement

[PtRoLLFacE]

is funny how many people are having prblems with this game, i got the skidrow version, in other words the free version and i haven't had any problems or frezes, my b is because of my spects are to high for the game lol, anyway has anyone found the alien gun yet? if not is by a place next to the gun runners, i forgot the name i think it starts with "free" something well there are to kinds playing run and gun, the boy has the gun, talk to him and buy it for 1000 caps, but i have yet to find any amo for it, if anyone know plss tell where i can find some

[JsonHenry]

I have it on STEAM and I have had ZERO problems with the game. But I have read the forums and it sounds like to me there is just too many complaints for there not to be real problems and not just people making mountains out of molehills.

[T3MPL3TON]

They really dropped the ball on this. Not everyone is an achievement/trophy hound.. so they should have given us something.

[Ascalon94]

With all these people complaining about bugs, I think I'm going to wait for the "GOTY" edition which one will most likely come out.

[Mastodon]

Game is incredible - sure sure there are bugs but I've gotten bugs in all my games hell even Uncharted 2, GoW3, Mass Effect 2, Halo: Reach, and Heavy Rain gave me bugs that made me have to reload - no big deal, that's life.

I don't get why people are upset about Hardcode mode giving you nothing more than an achievement - I mean its an optional game mode for those of us who actually want some kind of simulation - 100p or a Gold trophy is more than worth surviving in the desert until the end - mainly because its about gameplay not rewards and special "stuff".

As far as waiting for GOTY - that is a good idea especially considering the price - but that won't fix any bugs it never does - the same people who said that about Fallout 3 were terriblt disappointed when they got the GOTY and still had the same problems that everyone else did - price is nice though free DLC.

[itani]

It isn't that were upset with Hardcore mode, it's cause they said there's a special reward but it turns out the obvious!

[Figboy]

torturing myself with harder difficulties, but some games are fun to platinum.

my wife Platinumed Fallout 3, and was looking forward to doing the same with New Vegas, now she can't, because of this stupid Trophy/Achievement.

i don't mind Trophies/Achievements tied to the "Hard" difficulty, but the uber deluxe, we added this difficulty JUST for the fanboys of the PC version who like to mod things and make their games insanely difficult, Trophy/Achievements are weak sauce.

if you want to reward someone for undergoing the master difficulty, give them some in game rewards, not a Trophy/Achievement that keeps your count at 95%, or 49/50 Achievements Unlocked.

[asyouburn]

but i heard you could play hardcore mode, but on easy difficulty. maybe it wouldnt be so bad if this is true

[No Way]

As far as I know, your wife should have no problem beating it for platinum.
The 'Hardcore' mode isn't an "Uber Deluxe" difficulty, or a difficulty at all.
You can play the 'Hardcore Mode' on easy, to get the trophy. Platinum.
So, it doesn't make the game difficulty tougher, it just changes gameplay..

Or, so I've been told..

[Figboy]

like not being able to heal limbs unless with a doctor, stimpacks don't immediately restore health, ammunition has weight, you have to stay hydrated. all of those things are dealbreakers for my wife specifically. she doesn't have the patience or desire to play a game like that.

as for me, it just doesn't sound like a fun way to play Fallout, and i shouldn't HAVE to play it, just because i want to Platinum my game.

what i loved about Uncharted 2 before they patched it, was that even if you didn't play multi-player, you could still get the Platinum Trophy, which i did, as i barely touch MP in Uncharted 2. now, however, i have an obnoxious 73% completion on my Trophy list, because i don't have the MP trophies. i still have my Platinum, but it looks funky with that 73%, and i have no desire to play Uncharted 2 MP (oh, it's certainly a lot of fun, but i'm not an MP player).

[No Way]

I understand completely what you are saying..
But, if you play on 'Easy' Difficulty, then well,
I'd say it wouldn't be that bad, prolly wouldn't notice much.

Though, I do understand what you're getting at.
And, I think there should be a different or and other rewards.

[Vip3r]

I'm almost disgusted at this. They are hyping up a lie. If you can get trophies for basic missions, why hype up a Gold Trophy.

A good prize would have been to keep all your equipment when you start a new game. At least then you actually get something decent.

:/

[No Way]

I'm betting there's something else that is unlocked..
It'd be stupid to call a trophy a "Special Reward"
As, clearly.. there is nothing really special bout it.

Who knows..

[Agrahim]

A Trophy/Achievment? I love Trophies/Achievments, but... LAME.

[Deathbell2]

WTF is that it are you serious UGH......