Lens of Truth Head2Head - Fallout - New Vegas Analysis

Lens of Truth writes "Welcome back to this post apocalyptic Head2Head, This week we take a look at Fallout: New Vegas for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Thanks again to the folks over at Play N Trade, Oviedo, FL for supplying us our test copies. The environments in Fallout: New Vegas are huge and dynamic, so finding differences wasn't going to be a walk in the park. But rest assured, the differences we expose to you may be worth your while. So come join us as we explore this desolate wasteland as we uncover the differences we found."

[SmokexFFx]

Jaggies jaggies jaggies.

[boing]

amazing what 4xAA does nowadays

[ministryx]

GOWIII has 8XAA i believe, but the ps3 is only good for that game, but not Fallout.

[ShinMaster]

AA or not, Fallout is still an ugly game, lol.

Aren't they patching this game soon?... I heard

[Redrum059]

and to think i used to be hyped up for this game.

[Theonik]

Actually GOWIII has no regular form of AA. They use MLAA.
It's a blurring technique that is applied as an after effect. Visually it is comperable to 8XAA though and the technique is less demanding than even the crappy quincux method used on Mafia 2.
It is by far the clearest console release in this generation because of that fact.

[raztad]

@Theo

While you are essentially correct, there is some stuff I have to disagree with.

"and the technique is less demanding than even the crappy quincux method used on Mafia 2."

MLAA requires a beast of CPU to run on well, fortunately Cell has 6 SPUs capable of running MLAA even faster than the typical 2xMSAA that RSX provides.

I wouldnt expect Bethesda to incorporate MLAA in such a crappy and bug filled engine.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Correction: PARTIAL AA. The Anti-aliasing definitely DOESN'T affect all surfaces on New Vegas.

I call it a tie with those awful textures and some tearing.

[Theonik]

Yes i was referring to performance on the cell. GOWIII's usage of MLAA is trully amazing. The Santa Monica guy that made the SPE algorithm for it deserves a promotion. GT5 should have used it too imo. (Other upcoming PS3 exclusives are, not that i can hugely complain about a console game with 2XAA on 1080p and 4X on 720p)
Intel made a demonstration with it on their CPUs now and ATI is putting driver support on their 6xxx GPUs for it which allows it to be applied to any game you want even if it has no AA.

[IHateYouFanboys]

i need to correct a few people: GOW3 does NOT have MLAA. no PS3 game has MLAA.

what Sony are doing with the SPUs is NOT MLAA. it is a custom AA solution that produces similar results to MLAA, but it is not MLAA.

it is fantastic, and it works brilliantly - but its not MLAA.

also, no, it is NOT less demanding than Quincunx. Quincunx just blurs the entire screen, taking no CPU or GPU power. the Custom AA in GOW3 that is available to all first party developers now uses CPU power, and a fair bit at that.

[zeddy]

personally cant believe the conclusion is so close, are they looking at the same pictures i am because? the ps3 version looks horrific. there are instances where the ps3 has better textures and some where the 360 has better but the big thing is those jaggies, i dont know how anyone can play while looking at that.

[BubbleSystemSuck]

i hope better AA in the next PS3 patch

[visualb]

fanboys loose!

[Theonik]

No it is MLAA and the method used on the SPEs is about as fast as using quincux on the cell hardware. The cell is very good in doing such operations.
Here read:
http://forums.godofwar.com/...
The Saboteur also used a custom MLAA solution so GOWIII was not the first.

[MGRogue2017]

Xbox 360 is the better version, overall in terms of graphics quality & performance.

In terms of gameplay though, Completely the same.

No trolling, Just tellin' the truth.

[asyouburn]

sounds like the better version to me /s

[visualb]

according to the shots, 360 has less jaggies, but also worst textures and shorter draw distance (not to mention WAY darker = bad)

so...it depends what you prefer

prefer no jaggies at a loss of draw distance and texture quality? 360

prefer draw distance and better textures at cost of jaggies? PS3

none win, except maybe performance which apparently 360 was faster, yet with more screen tears and crashes =|

its really subjective tbh...

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

sorry. Get the ps3 version if you want slightly better textures up close, a mandatory 5 gig install and everything else worse.

there is 1% torn frames on 360, but it also had better draw distance, 4Xaa vs none on ps3, better Frames per second, and much faster loading with no install.

[donkeydoo]

Man I can't believe the PlayStation 3 didn't wins this. Come on the Textures looked way better on the PlayStation 3.

[SmokexFFx]

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[Tempjf]

That was awesome.

[donkeydoo]

Looked at the image of the window, if you can't see the texture differences your the one who needs glasses.

[visualb]

I have those, very good ones too, and he's right about the textures

but wrong about winning

like I said in my post above, neither "win", they both have draw backs and advantages...just depends what you prefer o.O

[Tempjf]

Xbox 360 destroys the PlayStation 3 version. Look at the images man.

[RudeSole Devil]

I think it fair to say a tie.

[boing]

but draw distance loading and AA were better on 360

[Fishy Fingers]

My turds better looking than your turd.

[SmokexFFx]

Noway man, mines green.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

well mine has corn in it.

[Soul Train]

I agree with the tie & it looks kind of $hitty on both. The DLC is deciding factor for me.

[jizzyjones]

Such a horrible lookin game on both tbh

[eggbert]

:(

[MGRogue2017]

Does anyone else find it a bit wierd that installing the 4.5GB to your PS3's hard drive doesn't improve loading times at all..?

[Fishy Fingers]

I'm not sure what you mean, being mandatory they wouldnt of been able to compare the difference with/without install. Or do you mean over the 360? If so, no, not really, all depends how they optimised their code/engine.

[MGRogue2017]

It can't be mandatory... 'cause how do they know that installing doesn't speed up the loading times?

[Fishy Fingers]

Exactly my point...

"PlayStation 3 had a 4.5 GB mandatory install"

[Soul Train]

its actually is sad, 5 GB is huge.

[Denethor_II]

It's cool I got 298GB free space. I must say though that the load times are acceptable.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

if you install it on 360 the loads are much faster than they are off the disk in this comparison.

[THC CELL]

xbox version looks too cartoonie

[fafoon]

But then again
both look like Crap

[Xbro]

Why doesn't my PS3 Version have those Jaggies?

[donkeydoo]

You have a Super PS3 unlike everyone else. Wait its you super duper TV then. Get a grip.

[Xbro]

What do i need to get a grip about?

Get out from your bridge and converse like the norm.

[BlackTar187]

Im playing on ps3 and i haven't had to many jaggies that i can think of or remember yet. Ive had the slow down though. Ive had an enemy get stuck in a rock so he couldn't hit me but i could hit him just once so far though.

[VandimionX]

Do you have your sharpness down? Anything higher than 0(!) is just added crispiness, meaning not actually part of the original picture. (...artificially added by your tv.) Low sharpness and your warmest color setting (usually movie mode or warm2) can practically ELIMINATE jaggies if your sitting at the right viewing distance...actually it works pretty good sitting up close too!

[Lykon]

I've just played the ps3 version 20 hrs straight, no freezing or problems here, looks good to me, totally absorbing game, I love it.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Personally i think the 360 version was better by this comparison but im sure any version of teh game would be good enough to play bugs aside.

[tatotiburon]

xbox 360 version again, but kudos for the ps3 version for keeping up

[actual_gamer]

But the PS3 one looks ugly as hell in that pic with the windmill

[Shogun Master]

this is an odd one. PS3 looks better up close but from far away the 360 takes it.

[Dnied]

I'm liking AA and the deeper / richer colours on the xbox version. I didn't really expect much for either but I play the ps3 version and when I loaded it up for the first time I thought it looked terrible lol actually the game itself looks decent but the lack of AA in this game specifically is pretty bad on the ps3

the contrast is nice on the 360 screens but that COULD be fixed for ps3 with TV settings i would think.. hm

[ministryx]

not again the 360 winnning, what's up with the ps3, is it only good for first party games???

[BlackTar187]

correct?

[SuperStrokey1123]

Did you not read the article? Or just pick and choose what you wanted to see and read?

[The Creep]

yh 360 deffo won this one

[testerg35]

Doesn't really matter.. both look like crap.

[Fulensenca]

Fallout New Vegas' s comparison = war of the poor.

[Sea_Man]

I'm going for the PS3 version! Textures will always win with me.

[despair]

Comparing ugly in one way to ugly in another way just leaves you with 2 different types of ugly.

[BlackTar187]

if your sleeping with fat chicks and ones 250 and ones 260 there both fat and neither person wins.

Probably a terribly analogy but im tired as hell today.
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Game On

[xg-ei8ht]

Seriously arguing about which version won

360 better loadtimes+AA, but screentear.

PS3 Textures and HDR - But no AA

Surprised they didn't even add QAA.

They would have look the same,lol.

[Jazz4108]

Someone asked about a patch. I waas playing the 360 version at 3am pst last night and it signed me out and downloaded a patch and signed me back it. It takes less then 5 sec but it seems to stop the freezes and the loads are much better.

[bobdog626]

Even a Dog can see this and they are color blind

[Raider69]

Where the hell are the self-shadowing on the PS3 version?? Just take a look at the first set of images!The house at bottom right of the road haves self-shadowing on the 360 version but none on the PS3!Its completely absent and the images were taking at the same time of the day!Just watch the clouds settings!It coud be the light source but seems that dynamic shadows on the hills are also missing on the PS3 version?!

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Ill take faster loading, more frames per second, WAY LESS jaggies, 1% torn frames, and better draw distance INSTEAD OF 1% less torn frames, better textures up close, and a 5 GB install.

How this is a tie to LOT I do not know. But neither game is a graphical/performance masterpiece anyways.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

they could have used more but didnt. You can install it and have it load faster than they have off the disk.

[turgore]

they are both hideous.