andriasang: "Sony didn't give much of an explanation when it announced Gran Turismo 5's delay yesterday. For something a bit more solid (just a bit), we turn to series producer Kazunori Yamauchi himself."
he s still blowing smoke up folks ass. The game has been finished months ago.
did you see all the GT5 bug videos? thats not what I call a finished product....
stop trolling. its a 60 million dollar game which PS3 exclusive had bugs? even forza 3 had bugs, cant do much with a racing game.
I'm starting to suspect that this game isn't even in development, and that it's just being used to lure people into buying a PS3. lol 20 years from now PS3 fanboys will still be defending its delay on the PS7.
hasn't it gone gold? ....
I wonder what they are fine tuning. They should just come out and say what they are polishing, this air of mystery is really not pleasing for the fans. Off Topic: Pretty funny seeing some 360 fanboys finally come out of their cave after that Mass Effect 2 announcement and Gears 3 delay.
Yes i find it funny as well at all these 360 posters. Honestly let him finish the game and not give us a bug fest. I am more than willing to wait as it will lessen the strain on my wallet. Its better to have a complete game than a rush piece of garbage (activision)
Imagine the sales around Christmas? I think that's mainly why they have done it, I can't blame them tbh.. @evrfighter I think its gold, perhaps even platinum before it releases (that would be awesome)
Very disappointed but then again, they are there to make money especially considering they have spent almost $60 million on this title and if releasing it close to Christmas means more sales then why not.
you couldnt figure this out 2 months ago ? why would you delay a game a few days before release ? its just stupid if it happened in august i wouldnt even b this pissed but nothing i can do but wait and lol at the Trolls dnt have anything else to do . i understand your life is that boring you find joy in writing dumb stuff on the internet what ever makes you happy i guess .. so keep trolling :) @buying1999 i said plenty bad things about ps3 .. got all my bubbles o wait .. a quick glance at your comments all of its anti ps3 ..that may be the difference
GT5+GT5p cost around $60 to create TOGETHER! However GT5p has already made more than $60 so basically they are already making a profit.
GreenRingOfLife. your picture reminds me of a kid in school eating junk.back of the class. only you talk like sh*t too. look at your disagrees you sad sad boy!! go play with your 360 till kinnectamials comes out.
I would sure hope so.. Look at the development cycles. GT5 been in development longer than Forza 3.
this game was supposed to be out in what? less than 3 weeks? for them to suddenly delay the game probably means they found something major that NEEDED to be fixed before launch. he sounds calm in his tweet, but it's his job to make it sounds as pleasant/harmless as possible. i wouldn't be surprised if something big came up. either way, who cares...it's just a small delay.
double post, my apologies.
I'd rather they take an extra month fixing whatever problems are still in the game then PD releasing something broken. Honestly, everyone complains about what a bad choice this was, but I mean common, wouldn't it be worse if the game was released and turned out to be unplayable. A month is a very short price to pay for perfection.
I have this really funny feeling that sony is going to release gt5 the tuesday before black friday.. Why you ask, well for starters its(black friday) the busiest shopping day of the year. Secondly I'm sure they are planning some ps3/hdtv bundles for cheap and what better game to christen a shiny new ps3 then gt5...
Black Friday is not the busiest of the year. It actually ranks third or forth behind the 23rd and 24th... But of course a late November release would be nice. Hopefully we will have something firm in place in the next week. This is obviously not a marketing decision because if that were the case they would have a new release date. This is a last second fix and I totally agree with the decision no matter how much it makes me upset. I would rather see a great game from the time I get it and play it instead of a game that has a problem that needs to be patched. All of us are aware of at least a few games that had problems that really ruined the game until it was patched.
I know Japanese developers are struggling this gen, but this is getting ridiculous. Polyphony needs to realize that they can always release some patches. I'm sure the game is good enough to be released after taking so long. Sony needs to be more strict with these guys. Right now, all the good games are made by first party studios in Europe or the States.
If they go with that route i.e release the game and then patch it later on then there will be gazillions of fanboy crying and laughing out there. The amount of expectation with this game is simply massive and it must be extremely difficult to make such a huge game without glitches so I guess they are making sure they make more sales and release a quality product with minimum glitches.
there are no patches on review scores. imagine they put game of gt5 caliber out with bugs like you said and patched it later. everyone rushes to review game when it comes out and receives worse score simply for not waiting few days. not to mention how this would impact what people speak about their products. gt5 simply can't afford mistakes like that if it wants to keep the crown. the only ones that wanna rush gt5 are xbox fanboys. i don't see one ps3 player who wouldn't trade few days more for perfection.
there are probably people out there that will get a ps3 just for this game. they may not even have any intention of hooking their ps3 up to the internet. i bet a considerable percentage of ps3 and 360 owners have never updated their system after purchase.
doesnt expect it to be delayed till 2011, mmmm sounds ominus to me he doesnt seem to confident. I hope im wrong.
Kazunori Yamauchi: I want to release it as fast as I can, but GT5 for us, when you talk about its status, it's at a point we can release it any time we want, but we can always keep working on it. This was quoted in June 2009 http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Seems like there is feature creep or the game wasn't anywhere close to finished when he made this statement. If it is feature creep, then expect the game to see more delays. This is something many developers struggle with and can only be stopped by the developer making a hard choice of what to include and what to leave out.
10/10 racing game
"we want to avoid black ops"
obvious reason for the delay was to avoid call of duty clash
two different game genres dude. They won't compete against each other and plus the better of the 2 is GT5 anyways
wasn't heavy rain delayed because of cod? just because they are in different genres doesn't mean they don't compete.
I don't really agree that they don't compete with each other. Different genres yeah but most people can afford maybe one game a month. And the fanbase for CoD and GT are both high. There has to be some overlap between the two. You like CoD and GT right? Given the choice, some would choose CoD, some GT. Delaying a week or two will fill those wallets back up with money and if you can buy both then both parties win. So it's not impossible that that's the reason. And it's called being smart.
"wasn't heavy rain delayed because of cod?" Proof that sanity has left "certain" people EONS ago.
'You like CoD and GT right? Given the choice, some would choose CoD, some GT. Delaying a week or two will fill those wallets back up with money and if you can buy both then both parties win.' Couldn't you just go back a week or two later with your full wallet and buy whichever you didn't choose the first time, even if they both released the same day? Doesn't everyone involved make money on sales that don't occur in the first day/first week/first month just the same? Delaying in the same genre makes sense because people may choose one and never come back for the other after release hype is dead, and those delays are usually for a longer time frame.
You're kidding right? They do compete, regardless of different genres. If I go to the store, with $60, to buy a game. I see GT5 and COD. I only got the money to buy one game. Hmm, do they still not compete? I would beg to differ, and say that they do in fact compete. And, GT5 'may' be the better game. But, a lot factors into that.
"some time to finalize some of the game's more complicated systems. " maybe its the PS3 firmware that caused a bug.
See what I did there? Both our statement are off the wall.
lol u made me laugh bubbles
nah, wasnt a fairy, It was that devious, underhanded greenwalt gremlin messing GT5's code up some.... the bastard couldnt resist xD
I don't see how LordMarius's comment is off the wall. Firmware has broken functionality in the past and could cause issues in the future. Developers get firmware drops before end users do so they can test it with their software and prepare patches as needed. This is the same for any dev house in any field.
Some people are so defensive.
nope, obvious reason for the delay is: to stick F/W 3.50 in there to try and stop pirating, come on guys..... this is Sony's big title and they are the reason for this delay, it just gas become a joke, name change to Gran Delay 5, people are getting fed up SONY!!!
MOH was release requiring 3.50 there is no reason a game releasing a month after it would have to be delayed simply to require it. Why does it seem so hard to accept the explanation that was given?
look here: http://n4g.com/news/626243/... guess I was right!!!
Hahahaha Shut me up lol
As long as I can have it in my PS3 before winter break Ill have no problems.
as long as i can customize my go-kart i don't care how long we have to wait
it was 20 days to go to the release of the game. Wouldn't all the copies of the game have been pressed by now in order to make stock?
this delay has deceptively been in the pipeline for some amount of time i assume
Companies can have games, dvd's and CD'S printed and shipped to stores within a week, not until it goes gold is it really done. Either way, it's still shitty.
A game with this much importance has very little internal surprises...meaning Sony knew about this way before we did...So manufacturing probably didn't come close to beginning yet... I agree with HOSe...
"I don't believe" so now he's not sure if it will be winter? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, maybe he doesn't want to make anymore guarantees. GT5 will sell massively well either way, but if it doesn't hit by 2011, expect a lot of pissed off people.
"Yamauchi quickly followed up this apology with some good news for those worrying that this is actually a stealth delay to 2011. A follower pleaded with him to get the game out by the end of the year. "I believe we won't keep you waiting until then," replied Yamauchi." There you have it late november early december... I'm thinking a few days before black friday....
I see that a lot of people are pissed off already...but everyone does understand that this is technically the first delay GT5 ever had, right?...Every release date before the confirmed november from E3 was simply speculation...making this the ONLY time GT5 was even delayed...and by GT standards, this is nothing... just because a game doesn't hit a window people think it 'should' does not mean its getting delayed all the time...Same thing with killzone 2...everyone kept saying early 2008...then mid 2008...then holiday 2008...then GG confirmed it to be early 2009...and everyone kept screaming that it was delayed so much?...I never understood that...it was never once delayed at all...and GT5 only had this happen one time...so far at least...
Didn't they only just recently announce the map editor? D: http://www.youtube.com/watc... I think the delay was a wise decision. It'll pay off in the end.
Not forget who were talking about here. Polyphony has a great track record so we know the game will definitely live up to the hype & our expectations & we all know that Polyphony always makes sure that its games are in top notch conditions before launching it & there is never nothing wrong with that. Aslong as we know its coming this holiday season then a delay isnt that bad.
it will come before christmas, otherwise it think even i will cancel my gt5 interest, i like bug free games, but this is getting ridiculous now
go play forza 3 and mw2 that should get you gut boiling with free bugs
This whole delay thing is completely blown out of proportion, just like with everything else.
hey at least once it releases everyone will finally shut up and go play some video games =D
GT4 launched 2005 GT5 will likely be launched 2010 5 years of development, GT3 launched 2001 So there was 4 years between games then, why is 1 more year on a far harder console to develop for making people go skits.
it was suppose to be a launch title....
As was Alan Wake, no? It was one of the reasons I bought a 360 early on and they certainly NERVER had a hope in hell of having it out by then and even when they did, unlike GT5 which will have extra features, AW shed features like it6 was going out of fashion and even dumped a full version(PC) five years after the PC gamers started waiting for it!! IDK whether GT5 was ever meant to be a launch title(I very much doubt it actually but IDK for certain)but even if it was it's got a lot more fair reasons for a delay than the likes of Too Human or Alan Wake. ~Also PD managed to have products out this gen alongside GT5 development which neither Dyack nor Remedy did. I just think that PD and GT get a harder ride when it comes to delay abuse than some other, more culpable devs and titles. Being entirely truthful, however, this is the first proper delay we've seen in the west for GT5. Also, the feeling against GT5 and PD in some western sites which never ONCE criticised Remedy(even after the disgraceful way they treated those PC gamers they strung along for nothing for five years)for thew feature atrohpy and bizarre , long dev cycle for Alan Wake is amazingly over venomous. I'm not saying PD shouldn't have been more straight with everyone, they should, but they're not the only ones and they certainly aren't, and haven't been, the worst this generation. Look at the content, look at the modes and features added since GT5 was first announced, look at the TV tie ins and look at the extras they've had out in the mean time to offer fans something to play(GTPSP, Prologue and Concept etc)-even the outside interests like car design must eat into their time. Sure, it's not perfect and they could have had it out by now with fewer distractions but the desire for them to fall on their faces is palpable in certain areas of the western media and I don't find it very fair when T10 didn't get properly abused for their total arrogance and rigged polls etc. I just want it to feel like a fair split and an even playing field and right now it doesn't.
I don't remember them ever announcing that. I remember the trailer for it being shown, but I never saw anything concrete like a release date. There were many games shown at that E3 that were not launch titles. And you have to remember, they came out with GT5 Prologue first.
Gran turismo HD. and they kept their promise, even more... it was free. they also kept their prologue promise. at PS3 launch they only said they will work on GT5 which will be showcased as work in progress with prologue, but they didn't state date for that.
@mastiff Show me any link, even from sony fanatic web sites that states that Alan Wake was going to be a launch title. It is amazing that you sony extremists are able to justify GT5 delays, yet when the delays are form Ms it is suddenly outragious. you guys are pathetic. on point: I dont care about the delay of GT5 as long as it benefits the final product. The game looks sweet, so a final delay (lets hope it is) does not seem to be such a big deal. I dont care so much for racing sims, but I have a few friends who are dying for this...
perfect example of how ignorance on the internet rules message boards... GT5 was NEVER supposed to be a launch title...the concept of what became GT: HD was...and was a totally different (conception wise, it never turned into what was planned) game entirely... in fact, GT4 was 'supposed' to be the last GT game of its kind...where PD was attempting to make some sort of racing mmorpg with GT: HD (it was originally GT universe or something)... the idea was that at the launch of the online enabled PS3, a 'starter' file would be available for free...which is what became GT: HD...you would get a couple cars and a couple tracks and a couple things 'to do' all for free...then buy what you want as you go...as well as trade cars, build tracks, compete online, and use earned credits as well as real money to purcahse additional content...the idea also meant that GT would never really get a sequel anymore...would simply have content added at whatever intervals... market research suggested it would ruin the franchise though...and the idea was scrapped before it even really got going...after it was bagged, PD threw together GT: HD as a free download...and even more interesting is that its actually GT4's engine entirely, and still looked better than any racing game available at the time (many argue it looks better than any Forza release so far)... the idea is still around though...i wouldn't be surprised if Sony came up with something like this for the next PS...but don't expect it to be a GT game...just a new franchise, but possibly still from PD... in either case, this is what led to the extreme development time of GT5...couple that with heading up a full release for the PSP...and it took even longer...but GT5, as what is about to be released, was never supposed to be anything related to the launch of the PS3...
Man GT5 is becoming duke nukem forever. Hopefully this delay equals free DLC.
...everything is on the disc and no need for dlc.
how could anyone expect free dlc from this game regardless of the delays this game is massive I just hope they only have yearly dlc packs till the end of the ps3's lifecycle dlc that would include new cars and new tracks I would hate for there to be 3-4 map packs per year like other games
It freaking better come out THIS year PD/Sony... I won't be a happy camper if it's delayed until 2011. <_<