Maybe the Wii 2 features a Cell processor from IBM. Today the company announced that it would continue to work closely with the consoles manufacturers.
no, but it will must likely be a variant of it.
Thy Kingdom Come
Christians are nothing but Jesus fanboys.
They're useless. They've held back human advancement with their rubbish.
"They've held back human advancement with their rubbish." What's with the off-topic bashing against religion on a video game site? You guys can't keep your feelings to yourself? Also, what advancement are you looking forward to, huh? an Ipod brain implant? Pfft, advancement. Humans will go the way of the dodo.
Also, what advancement are you looking forward to, huh? an Ipod brain implant? Pfft, advancement. Humans will go the way of the dodo. by the time were extinct ill be long dead also heard of the dark ages? some job the cristians did there
"also heard of the dark ages? some job the cristians did there" Dude, like I said, I'm not going to get involved in a pointless debate with you about something that doesn't matter. Arguing about people's personal beliefs and their affect upon the world is only going to divide us further as a race. To be frank, I am an agnostic, myself, but I've never felt the urge to bash other people who I do not know on the internet, especially with the intention of hurting their feelings. And I've taken several history courses in college that discuss the massacres that have occurred due to religion. Nevertheless, one could also point out the failings of humanity due to our possessive nature, our desire to own more and more things. Yet, how come religion gets blamed more than capitalism? Did you know the Iraq war was declared because the Bush administration wanted to set up oil refineries in the Middle East so they could obtain more capital? There's just as many wars started because of money as there are for religion, so I ask you, why must you blame one thing but accept another? Did you know, also, that the Crusades were started in large part over money? The Catholic Church and the English Monarchy conspired to invade Jerusalem and other cities in order to loot gold and treasure from the city. Religion was a surface explanation. Ultimately it all comes down to money. Why blame the inconsequential institutions when the real source of the problem is in your wallet?
Ya, I'm sure Jesus sacrificed his mother just to earn some money...
Interesting. It could mean that with Move being on the PS3, that many Wii 2 games would also come out on the PS3 in full HD with little to no porting issues.. Interesting indeed.
wii2 would not only have cell but AMD FUSION APU nintendo love ATI and AMD are the new ATI and the FUSION range are cheap major powerful too powerful for ps3 to emulate thats for sure directx 11.1 graphics and shader model 5.0 ect it can even do in game CGI standard graphics google it AMD FUSION APU
IBM halt all development on CELL and Sony also already sold the manufacturing line to Toshiba! I know Nintendo likes to stay a gen behind their competitors like their Wii and DS but I doubt they will use CELL! from 1 to 10, this rumor scores 0!
this is obviously fake i mean there is nothing in that article to even assume that it would be true or even slightly true
It would certainly ensure backwards compatibility with the Wii and Gamecube, both of which use simpler IBM processors. The Cell's PPU would run those games just fine. The SPUs would be icing on the cake due to it's ability to "accelerate" (how this happens is complicated but that's the end result) whatever GPU they build into the Wii2.
True, that. But so would a multicore Power6 derivate with extended VMX and a up to date GPU... I am curious to see, how PowerPC will do with ATI - now AMD - in the future (e.g. Wii and XBox360). I could imagine AMD sees a huge potential for it's Fusion line of chips in the console business.
Nah Ninty will just duct tape 4 Gamecubes together and Bam there it is...Wii 2
hey thats what apple did.
"Ya, I'm sure Jesus sacrificed his mother just to earn some money... " I don't even know what you mean by that statement. It doesn't really matter.
Hopefully not. pff they should just talk to Intel about getting some variant of a 6core xenon. cell processor is dated and ppl would be like. Omg ps3 had a cell since 2006 its 2011 and wii just caught up...
Wii 2 will be as powerful as a Xbox 360 imo.
That would be the cheap route. I would expect it to be, well, 5 years beyond those consoles. But, well, a 360/PS3 level console could maybe be built much cheaper with current technology.
No. Sony owns the rights so they will have to pay royalties if they want to use it. Nintendo doesn't like to pay royalties. That's why they use their own propriety disk format and not dvd.
Capacity-wise, it's still a DVD.
They do? So then what does IBM have to do with it. Also why is Toshiba using it in some of their TV's? Besides that, Sony may have some say, and get paid a fee, but they essentially stop support of R&D for it, and only support it buy including it in their console.
all built the cell together then micro$hit stole the blueprints
nintendo uses dvds...
int it since wii cant play dvd
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.... "we're working with all of the game folks to provide our capabilities into those next-generation machines." They said nothing about cell going into the wii 2.
IBM always wanted to push their Power platform as opposed to their own consumer model which is based on what they call the "G3" core (the latest PowerPC was the G4, the 970 or G5 wasn't based on that core). That's basically the PowerPC developed with Apple and a spin off from the Power architecture. I guess with Power6 (and later) a lot of the G3 line went back into the Power architecture; the cell had an improved power management and that was one reason why it has a G3 based PPU core instead of one based on Power5 (or 6 which was not ready in 2005). But, when they say, the future of the CELL is part of the Power roadmap, I can believe that. G3 is basically gone, Power6 and later can possibly compete with it now. A Power 7 (or 8) core cpu can possibly feature additional vector units which they strip out of the CELL. I am curious to see how IBM can strip down a Power 6 (or 7 or even 8) to fit into a game console. That was always the problem with IBM. They core business is workstation CPUs. Power per Watt is critial there, too, nowadays. Maybe they can make such a CPU. If at all, I could imagine they'll get competition from AMD and M$. Seams to be logically for the next XBox to go that route instead. Sony and Nintendo can care less. Sony was never backward compatible (well, PS1 and 2 both used Mips cores, though). Nintento uses the G3 based Gecko since the GC.
Will never be used in a gaming device ever again.
Unless it's for the sake of backwards compatibility with a future Playstation, I'm afraid I have to agree with you.
It's Called Move...
... I can't see it happening to be honest.
CREESH i have to disagree the best thing Sony can do next gen so they so they don't have the same slow start is use a better redesigned cell so developers can't complain the hardware being to hard to develop for.
No. IBM makes the current CPU in the Wii, you know. They make plenty of non-Cell CPUs. The Cell IS the greatest microprocessor concept of the last decade... but I sincerely doubt it'll make an appearance in the Wii 2. With all the bitching and moaning developers did about the Cell, before they realized how cool it was, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony dropped it as well. That would be lame, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Yea, really. Once developers started to think about the cell differently than a regular processor we started to see some great things. For example, using one cell to compliment the graphics processor, in essence turning that cell into a pseudo graphics processor. Things like this, which I believe were employed in Uncharted 2 are why the cell still has alot of room to grow.
GPGPU and stream processing are not new concepts, they have been around since the 80s. Nvidia has been rapping Cuda for a while and ATI has Stream. GPGPU had not taken off rapidly because it was difficult to program and it usually required vendor lock in. Only recently has software started to be developed and standardized to allow developers to make use of this capability across all hardware vendors' platforms. OpenCL and DirectCompute will help usher in some phenomenal changes to game engines in the future. The Cell really is just a unified CPU and GPU, which never had a chance against separate discrete multi core CPUs and GPUs. Its greatest application will probably occur in embedded and portable devices, where such discrete setups are costly and power hungry.
The interesting thing about OpenCL and DirectCompute (?) is, that the "calculus" target can be abstract (for example, AMD has a CPU based compute target to test OpenCL code). For a CELL, this can be PPU, SPU, Shader or a combination of all of them, while still maintaining a single API. In such a configuration, a new CELL (like) cpu is very thinkable and completely transparent no matter if discrete or integrated CPU/GpGPUs are used. It will even work in current PS3s.
I dont see it getting into the next wii, Nintendo will take something very familiar and easy to dev for. They wont make a huge statement. Look at all of their systems in the last few years. All super easy to make games for. Not likely going to happen.
Nintendo is not gonna spend alot to make they console more powerful. Wii2 will have about the same power as 360.
You're probably right but I'd love to see them release a powerful console. I'd love to see their exclusive titles look alittle more lifelike and mature. Also, where is Pikmin 3 (I know this one is coming soon) or Luigis Mansion 2. I am just not that excited about much of what Nintendo has to offer anymore. Sony and Microsoft have pretty much raised the bar for me.
Luigi's Mansion 2 would be sweet, and I am still surprised they haven't made it.
Nintendo will make the most powerful console next gen end of they have made billions and billions of $/£ and wont let competition have more powerful hardware this time i mean the 3DS is like 200 times more powerful than ds/dsi and they stated its a more mainstream handheld now same with wii2 reggie said it will be a mainstream gamers machine so Graphics will play a bigpart this time as graphics were a major focus for 3DS same for Wii2 if u think otherwise ur plain stupid nintendo are out to steal everything its a fact look at the damage they have done with a more humble hardware wii is still powerful machine just not as powerful as ps3 but if this is what nintendo can do with less power imagine what will happen when all 3rd partys want to work on the more powerful Wii2 over a xbox720 ect
I have a feeling the next nintendo console is gonna be pretty awesome.I hope a lot better then the wii.
They can now play the power game with Microsoft and Sony, with some added innovation... Nintendo style!
IF they did wouldn't they have to pay licensing rights to Sony as well since they helped create the Cell? and if that is the case I don't think Nintendo would want to pay that.
No. I don't think so. the thing has been notorious to be hard to program for. but it yields an amazing results.
No, the Cell processor in gaming comsoles is for SONY only. Sorry. IBM can't even do that. Didn't IBM already say they're going to stop developing the Cell anyway? This must be some kind of dumb joke.
no comment........um.......Genesi s does what Nintendont?
you mean nintenDO (nintendo - do)
Nintendo wont use cell but it will use IBM no doubt, PS4 will use cell or similar to cell tech. Cant see Sony angering devs again with new tech since people are finally beginning to understand how to use the cell
I don't know if they will actually do it, but from a cost perspective, why not? Not like the cell is ground breaking technology anymore. By the time the new consoles come out, they could use the cell as is, or a variant of it built on smaller transistor technology to provide better temperature performance, etc. Processors only get cheaper as time goes, look at the current Intel i core processors, they only seem to get cheaper and cheaper. Not to mention the graphics cards. The PS3 and 360 used graphics processors comparable to nVidia 7900 series, so a few generations behind...
alot of Nintendo hate. why didn't sony get this much hate with the ps2? the GCN was more powerful than that and had better graphics too. it might even rival the x-box.but you don't see people saying the ps2 is just the psx. although to be fare, i believe Nintendo always has been underpowered. SNES,GB,GBC,GBA,DS,N64,& Wii. although it doesn't seem to hurt sales though. Nintendo said they are going to make their next console HD and have more online stuff. although i hope it is affordable, unlike the ps3 at launch. although finding a wii 2 to 3 years after launch was rare, lol
The 3DS is a little powerhouse, its clear that Nintendo is trying their luck with higher ends consoles again, like they did with the Gamecube! Is it really that hard to believe? Also the cell will be old news by then, And we know Big N loves old tech that still works that they can sale at a profit.
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