Many said it wouldn't happen but sales of Final Fantasy XIII have now reached 5.83 million across PS3 and Xbox 360 compared to 5.71 million for XII on PS2.
A multiplat versus a PS2 exclusive. okaaay...
130m userbase vs 80m (with some crossover - i.e people who own both consoles)
Out doing 12 is nothing to rave about, the series went downhill in qualaty and sales since 10.
VII was the best?! :o
12 is one of the least liked FF games, so I'm not surprised to be honest.
both 12 and 13 weren't good
Yet they are two of my favorites FF. Screw the fans, Square Enix keep rocking it! I'm tired of the old style of micro managing
12 probably made a much bigger profit.
All the western press ... wake up.....
So you like crappy RPGS, barom? sigh...
@Eamon Opinions, man. They differ. Respect someone else's. To me, FF12 is a great game. FF13 is the worst in the series, tied with FFX-2.
To be fair, FFXII did come out when the "next-gen" started.
@ FiftyFourPointTwo If barom doesn't like micromanagement, why does he want to play JRPGs then? May he go and play some other game without micromanagement and leave the JRPG genre to those who appreciate it. Because FF13 is hardly a JRPG with all those cuts in classic FF gameplay mechanics. FF12 could be the next greatest in the series after the VII-th, if Square didn't push Yasumi Matsuno so he left the game and the company in middle of development. I think Matsuno is one of the few game perfectionists, that could make a FF game great. ((( .
I'm sure half of the people out there with ps2's had modchips by the time FF12 came out...
One of the most pirated consoles in History. (together with PS1)
It just goes to show that they should have kept it exclusive. After all, the cost of developing for 2 platforms has to be taken into account.
they sell more and it proves that it should have been exclusive? listen, XII sold on a system with 120 million user base. XIII sold with a combined user base of about 70 million. how was this not good for Square? in any case XII and XIII sucked IMHO. and XIII did not suck because it was in the 360, it sucked because of many other reasons, just like XII and IX sucked not becasue they were exclusive to sony. and by the way, just to remind u that Final Fantasy was never just a Sony exclusive. the first sony exclusive was VII, before that they were nintendo exclusives. @zootang do u have any evidence that those alleged costs outway the profits they received, or are u just speculating? and the backlash was form the hardcore loosers that did not even know that Square has always made games for other companies. Have u taken into account the good will that Square gained from 360 owners who were ablet to play th egame because it went multiplat?
Just take into account the man hours it must have cost to make it for the 360. The extra cost of printing and licensing on multiple disks. Then you also think of the backlash the game received for going multi-plat. I think Square should/would learn from this. Edit: Also, FFX back in 2001/02 with a lesser install base sold more as an exclusive. So your point is void. I just said exclusive, I didn't say to which platform. I'm sure it would sell even more if it was a Nintendo exclusive. Edit2: Dread! Seriously? So it doesn't cost any money to make the game on another platform?
dude of course it cost money to make the game in the 360, I am just saying that you need to take into account other things at well. and you do not know if the costs were more than the profits, which is the most important isse here. also, my point is not moot at all, if X sold more it was because it was an awesome game, unlike XII and XIII, regardless, the fact that XIII sold more than XII with a smaller install base is still a valid point.
zootang you are spot on and hopefully square riealize this but probably not, unsure how you got dissagrees probably from stupid fanboys.
"if X sold more it was because it was an awesome game, unlike XII and XIII, regardless, the fact that XIII sold more than XII with a smaller install base is still a valid point" That didn't stop MW2 beating MW
Yep, Exclusives get MUCH more attention and FFXIII could have sold better if it stayed exclusive since a lot of people didn't buy it becuase SE basically lied about everything and gave us a watered down game gimped so it could be done on 360.
...bought but probably never finished this game lol. My brother tried to give this game to me I respectfully declined. His comments about it weren't the ringing endorsement nor excited enthusiam I hear with other games I've gottn from him. It was a you have hav it if you want or sell it if you don't like it conversation.
some people don't know what they are getting until it's too late. with or without reviews.
And yet it manages to SELL this much? hmmmmm.... -End statement
Because it carries FF's name and is on both next-gen systems.
Knowing VGChart *numbers* it proabably hasn't outsold FFXII.
And how do you *know* VGChartz numbers?
Because VGchart's numbers are not accurate.
I guess you guys will come up with more accurate numbers then.
What ever happened to using NPD numbers now? D:
Yea, looks like XIV has matched the sales of XI already as well according to their numbers. I find that a little hard to believe.
if they are not accurate then how are u sure that XIII did not outsell XII before. It goes both ways buddy...
It probably has outsold FFXII because Square has pumped so much money into marketing for this game. You will also be surprised how many idiots just care about looking at the screen and going "oooh pretty". The last good FF was X and the average age of a hardcore gamer is 15-20yrs. That means the average gamer must have been 5-10 yrs old when X came out = they don't know they were screwed hard by SquareEnix. Those who are old enough to know they just got screwed by Square probably already have a family, going out on dates, or are in college studying = not much gaming.
what a fail logic .. my first FF was FF5, i find FFX to be garbage , FF12 is good , so is ff13 ( they are just different ) This is my opinion of course ..but your logic is 100% pur fail .. A good rpg stay a good rpg .. is chrono trigger bad now because it isn't HD ? of course not .. Even someone today can enjoy ff7 now and it's the WORSE looking FF .. what makes a rpg good ? how fun you have with it .. it doesn't matter if it's "oh pretty" .. if you don't enjoy playing rpgs then why bother ?? Millions of people enjoyed FF11 , people bought FF12 those weren't bad games heck even FF cristal chronicles sold was that a bad game too ?? SquareEnix can make bad or average games of course ..but trying to justify the hate those 2 games got ( ff12 & ff13 ) by thoses claims is ridiculous ...
"The last good FF was X" And to this day i still remember how people were pised off about linear gameplay like FFXIII .......... FFXIII is good game. - Story - only few dialogues + Best battle system + Omg graphic
..linking to someone's search results is an article now? Oh, sorry, a rumour? Wow.
It would have been a shame if that piece of crap FFXII outsold FFXIII. Man, I hated FFXII.....
Isn't the other way around?
FFXII was an excellent game. You guys just hate evolution.
Thats like... saying 1 piece of crap smells worse than another piece of crap. imirite?
I dont know if this is something I should be happy about. Both games were sh*t IMO. Hoping FFv13 will rectify this asap.
5.83 million people that have nightmares about sore button mashing thumbs and running down endless corridors.
5.83 million who spent countless hours looking for towns. lol
Hated 12. Thought 13 was solid.
I think we all know what this means... we all bitch about Squareenix sucking now but yet people keep buying their games... this just means we will keep seeing their subpar games and likely fools will keep buying them.
but according to n4g users ff13 was going to fail....n4g doesnt equal the world?
It has! Don't you see the FFVII PS1/PC sales?! Far better than FF13 which means FFXIII HAS FAILED. SQUARE-ENIX IS DEAD. /s
What a disappointment. Now they'll have more reasons to create another turd.
That nothing to be proud off. A multiplat barely outsells vs an exclusive. That embarassing.
FFXIII isn't even a year old, while FFXII has been out for four years. FFXIII was able to outsell FFXII's lifetime sales in less than a year.
They were both the worst games in the series anyway
I still have yet to beat this game. Stuck at some major boss.
Paradigm shift...auto battle Paradigm shift...auto battle Paradigm shift...auto battle Paradigm shift...auto battle It's as easy as that. FFXII and FFXIII were total let downs. These numbers are nothing to be proud of.
At least FF12 had some element of strategy with the annoying gambit system. Like Pug said, FF13 is basically Paradigm shit then auto battle.
Yeah you gotta point they both where let downs. I did enjoy FF13 but its by far anything great. The guy i am stuck on is that old dude that is i guess in charge of everything he kills the chick that is like his assistant. Just the one attack he does always kills my guys.
Expect sales wise FF beats every other JRPG AND WRPGS
Oh, the leader of the Sanctum who's actually a fal'cie. I stopped playing ff13 a couple of hours after that point.
auto battle .......... good luck with 30+ titan quests with auto battle .
FFXIII was linear CRAP. The FF Series. . . . is finished.
So, it is selling more in half the user base, obviously due to going multipltform Soon will far surpass FF12 sales too and FF13vs would sell far more now that will go multiplatform (they did not show it in TGS PS3 show)
I was never a fan of FF12 to be quite honest... I'm happy FF13 outsold it though.
Why do the majority of people here hate XII so much. Could it be because it had a more mature story and evolved battle system? I thought it was an excellent game.
Good an amazing game outsold a very good one This just PROVES the hate on N4G is silly and not at all equal to the rest of the world where its clear FF12 and FF13 have been loved.
Gz FF XIII ^^
Yeah I enjoyed 12 quite a bit. FFX, ugh. FFXIII is ok. It was pretty to look at, that is for sure.
to me 12 was the worst ff ever. was barley a good game in general. wtf kinda game teaches u how to make gambits that make the game play for you? I dont need bots in my offline games morons. ff13 was a good game, not a bad ff but def not the best. people just complain is all