Worldwide Hardware: DS - 11,025,152 Wii - 8,591,936 PS3 - 6,509,380 360 - 6,284,260 PSP - 4,208,698 PS2 - 1,598,526
Wow, Reach at #6 in a week. Pretty close numbers for 360 and PS3 both still fighting strong. And both are only 2 million under the wii much better then last year.
They still have a lot of catching up to do with the Wii! First start outselling it yearly, then bridge the 35 million gap -- Never gonna happen.
I think its safe to say that MS or Sony will not catch the Wii in sales this gen - unless Move or Kinect can repeat the Wii success. Nintendo had a diffrent plan than Sony and MS and the hardcore gamers laughed and the idea that the Wii was useing motion - but Nintendo should the world that soccers moms is where the money is.
Interesting numbers. First thing that stands out is: Nintendo software is OUT OF CONTROL with its totals. In its lifetime, it has sold double the software of the PS3... and surpassed the year start of the 360 big time. I know people love Mario, but I think the cheaper MSRP helped that a bunch. These devs selling for $60 a pop should take a look at that. Hardware... PS3 still in the lead for 2010. 360 catching up at the rate of sales it has been seeing. PS3 is due for another price drop when GT5 hits. Software - PS3 only has .5 million(SORRY T9X69) less software sales than the 360 in 2010. Where are those 6million consoles this site is claiming the 360 has the lead with? Are they buying games? Are they dead? Very confusing. I know a console sold is a console sold, but if said console dies out of warranty or replaced by a slim... no one is buying copies of games for that console anymore, so the lead is kind of moot. Devs don't care about consoles sold... they care about Software being sold. From these numbers, the PS3 sells more games per console.
Are you forgetting the PS3 sold 6 million as well? Why is it behind 1.5 million? Are those PS3 users not buying games? Are they dead? Your logic can go both ways. You're also forgetting people buy tons of used games from Gamestop, GameCrazy, Ebay, Craigslist, so those games don't factor into the software sales. You're also forgetting 360 is easy to pirate compared to the PS3. Some people might have bought an extra 360 to play burnt single player games so they don't have to drop $60 on every game they want. There's a lot of different things to factor in when it comes to software sales for both PS3 and 360, compared to Hardware sales. EDIT: BTW the 360 is only ahead this year by 500,000, not 1.5 million. Both 360 and PS3 sold 6 million, and both systems have 64 million in software sales. Interesting how that works. EDIT2: lol I'm not getting bent out of shape at all, I'm just saying your logic can go both ways. You're acting as if those 6 million PS3's sold don't exist and the 64 million software sales came from current PS3 owners and none from the 6 million sold. Bottom line is, both PS3 and 360 are almost dead even and show great numbers, and with tons of great games coming out for both systems here in the next few months, I'll be one busy gamer.
For every xbox 360 there are 8 games sold. For every ps3 there are 7 games sold. Simple maths people, it saves lives and moots pennywise's point. To those that don't understand numbers, let me put it this way, the average xbox gamer still buys more games than the average ps3 gamer. And it has nothing to do with a head start, maths does not lie
Yeah, you are right. .5 million less. Even worse than I initially thought. Don't get bent out of shape with me over my observations. JUSTSOMELOGIC _ I was talking about game sales THIS year.
Penny i don't see a price cut happening this year $300 is a set price for a while, maybe on other SKU that they might want to get rid of so that they can make room for new SKU with bigger HDD or something but other then that i don't see it happening, even around GT5 release. I mean wouldn't think Sony would reveal hat at TGS or e3? There might be a price cut but like i said it will be for older models also btw wasn't it confirm PS3 has a higher attach rate for software? that was 09 so they could still be pretty close
You are discounting a very important factor. The average length of time someone has owned a 360 is LONGER than the average length of time someone has owned a PS3, simply because it has been out longer. The number of games someone buys is going to go up as they own the console for longer. So you shouldn't look at attachment rates, you should look at attachment rates PER unit of time, so let's say games per console per month. Now to calculate this is a bit more complicated than simply dividing because the number of total consoles has been changing - but if you plot it out on a per-month basis as games sold that month divided by total console sales up to that month Then you get an _estimate_ for games sold per console per month on a monthly basis. Plot this out for PS3 and 360 and you will find that the PS3 is higher.
This of course doesn't make for a good analysis since the people that already had consoles still buy games. However for your example sake, ps3 still does not look great if it has sold more but less software. Thats why I prefer the overall ratio which gives a more holistic picture...8.78 games for every xbox is better than 7.09 for every ps3. On a final note, devs care about sales and thats it. And you're wrong, ps3 does not sell more games per console, xbox does. Besides, games per consoles does not bother the devs, think of it this way, would you rather sell 100 games to 500 people or 10 games to 10 people? I'll give you a hint, most devs would rather sell more. Fortunately, xbox 360 gives you both, higher sales and higher ratio. @thor, wow, you really need to do alot to try and get the ps3 numbers to look better don't you? Stop cooking up numbers and look at whats there. 8.79>7.09 any day of the month. Its as simple as that.
Just some logic needs to take a look at his name and apply it to himself. PS3 this year has sold 1/2mill less games THIS year. The chart is showing the 360 ahead by 6million consoles on its lifetime. How does someone that tries to act smart with a name like yours, not comprehend that does not make the 360 software sales better. Again, ignore me all you want... I am talking about THIS YEAR - 2010 software sales.
So VGCHARTZ is okay this week? Just wondering, because had they show the PS3 getting man handled, I'm almost sure that your defense would be that this is VGCHARTZ; am I correct in stating that? I wish you crybabies would make up your minds whether or not vgchartz numbers are acceptable on N4G. Also "PS3 this year has sold 1/2mill less games THIS year." well being that the 360 was ahead by 5.5 last year, being ahead by 6mil now makes perfect sense.
"This of course doesn't make for a good analysis since the people that already had consoles still buy games." I addressed this issue. Note that I said games sold that month divided by TOTAL console sales up to that month Because we want to know the % of console owners who bought a game in a given month. This is NOT skewing the numbers deliberately in the PS3's favour - it's "Just Some Logic". It's a reasonable measure compared to overall attachment ratio because attachment ratio is naturally biased in favour of the console that came out first. Edit @ KingME VGChartz numbers are estimates, nothing more. They can be very wrong, they can be quite accurate. But when VGChartz says one thing, and MS and Sony say another, I'm not going to trust VGChartz and that's how it is sometimes.
KingME, it is barely after noon and you are already drunk? I am going by these numbers provided. I don't know if they are correct and I still think VGchartz under tracks the PS3. VGChartz is a piece of S***, IMO... but this is what we have. They still were tracking the PS3 at 2million less than Sony's numbers. But lets ignore that... Lets ignore it all like you guys love to do. Lets just pretend and say that these numbers are right... everything I said goes directly along with that assumption. Where in the hell do you see the 360 is 1/2 a mil ahead of the PS3? PS3 6,509,380 (-48%) X360 6,284,260 (-39%) ^ That above is listed for the year. Let me help you since you have trouble comprehending numbers and making things up...The PS3 is 225,120 units ahead for the year. Thats right, the xbox 360 you worship is behind in yearly sales ONCE AGAIN. 3 years in a row the PS3 has outsold the 360 worldwide, but VGChartz has the lead growing. You do the math. You figure that out. I love how you jump in and start calling people names, only to back up your childish rant with false info... Nice try.
So many of those games on that list, IMHO, deserve much better sales overall. It's too bad that we live in an age where the majority of sales go to one type of gameplay rather than people stepping out and exploring other games that they would more than likely enjoy to play as well.
Welcome to graphic whore over priced no fun hope the online is good world. On the devs side we have I want to make movies rather than games and give me some money also we need the moneys. 22 million wii fit, Mario kart, Mario 5. Only god of war is up there. What is going on with the ps3 fanbase? You all claim the exclusives are the reason to buy one yet no one seem to buy a ps3 for exclusives. Do you guys just watch movies or are ps3 gamers just too picky? Do these exclusives suck, what is it? The reason I ask is Sony would really want to know and so would devs. These guys are taking out loans just to stay in buisness. If you gamers don't speak up then only ea and activison will be left.
DS almost 12 mil that is impressive. PsP sells better then I thought given all the negative media I hear about it. PS2 still selling very well for an 11 year old console. 360 and PS3 are selling very well but they need a big holiday season. I can't believe that many Wii's sold, It's total crap.
Wow MS have pulled the numbers back form the beginning for the year so the way it is going they could finish above the PS3 again this year. Good to see the Big N doing well again let’s hope all 3 home consoles keep up the sales and keep the big games and new hard ware coming. Xmas sales should be interesting with both Kinect and Move trying to nick sales from the Big N.
" they could finish above the PS3 again this year." "Again"? You act as if Microsoft has ever sold more in a year than the PS3 in the first place. It hasn't happened iirc.
Who cares?!! The 2 are almost selling exactly the same. The 2 consoles are so close who cares? Each has its own identidy but the both play the same multis and each one has its own share of console exclusives that play to their brand and taste.
The 360 has out sold the PS3 each year worldwide since release it has only been since Sony release the ps slim last year it started outselling the 360 but the 360s is pulling them numbers back again. Also I was not having a did at the ps3 I like the machine I was just making a point of how well MS has pulled the gap back in total sales since the PS3 was outselling it the first part of this year. I really could not care who finishes 1st 2nd or 3rd at the end of the day I am a gamer buy consoles for games not because it is selling well or because Joe public think its the best game ever.
Head to head, but not year on year.
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Delusions are a bad thing my friend.
Reach has outsold every single game on one platform released this year in one week! You read right, Reach is not only the best selling exclusive released this year, it is also the highest selling game on a single platform released for the year...all in one week
And don't give Black Ops that privilege. -End statement
Damn Reach is killing it. Every time I look on Bungie.net there is always like 9 million games played in the past 24 hours, and that is just fucking insane. Now if only they would update the damn ranks I could get Emile's helmet for my Spartan :)
11 million ds thats crazy numbers
So ps3 sold more than 360 this year WW till now ehh..... DOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ps3 sold more and they have sly cooper collection, gt 5 on the way.....
Gt5 and move are key to sony's holiday.. If these two items can resonate with the consumers then the ps3 will retain its lead.. Seeing as how move is off to a great start and gt5 is the most anticpated ps3 title of all time I have a feeling thats not going to be to much of a challenge.. We will see come january...
Ah the Sony sold more consoles last year than M$. What are you talking about?
It seems like ps3 wont catch 360 in console sales and even in software sales, click, click, click..........time is running!
awfuly quiet in this thread when ps3 numbers are higher than 360 WORLD WIDE then come NPD which is only america it's party for 360 fanboys......LOL!
I can't help but think.. What if the ps3 was doing better here in the americas? I just wish the ps3 could gain more traction here, but of course microsoft has a stranglehold on this country..
If ms has such a strangle hold then what was the ps2 doing or the wii? Both systems crushed ms and the wii is currently crushing them. Halo, and gears and a fist full of multiplats is all they got that is if you like pc games with put a pc. Face it Sony really ratchet upntheir first party games too late. The cell kept talent from taking risk because publisher where taking huge hits from games just not selling and trade INS killed the rest of the profits. Sony has to figure out console gaming again and not rely on format addiction. They are really close to getting their nintendo own but so far they can only get 4 million gamers to show up max. Some thing tells me their marketing is making them niche along with their fanbase who just doesn't like most game types it seems. Some thing tells me blu ray watchers and gamers don't really overlap much. Which is the opposite to DVD use. Gt5 seems to be their last hope. Their own marketing team has killed move and turned their base against motion controls. They also don't want another system. Sony's creative vision and idea of what gaming os has cuaght up with them. It's really sad when ms with no real 1st teams any more just can surge forward off one game while nintendo keeps making their magic. You guys need to tell Sony what you want.
Umm Ok the wii isnt selling on its own merits it was the hot new thing for a while that everyone including your mother ran out and bought.. It was a status symbol of sorts.. For every good title on the system there are 50 shovelware one... Ok the cell is showing just how useful it is as of late. Which has been reflected in the sales.. World wide for the year the ps3 is sill in the lead with sony's biggest heavy hitter still a month away... Combine that with the fact that move is off to a great start and nothing you said holds any merit....
Mopar mariokart sold 22 million, mario5 sold 15 million. Wii gamers got the games they wanted. A few games actualy still sale. Maybe your right the wii was not selling on it's own merits. If that is the case then this is true for the ps3 also. While operah and other people pushed the wii popular game media pushed the ps3 and it's games only wii gamers stepped up and bought systems? If the wii is Dieing out then why does resort sell 14 million? Games are pushing the sales of the wii. If any thing the ps3 was the status symbol. Not games not sales. Like metriod other m it's fun but not what gamers wanted no sales. Wii fit, motion plus both pushed consoles sold way up. Is the move or any exclusive doing this. Maybe you don't understand but devs are suffering because of this. This is not a fanboy to fanboy comment this is real life. Some good developers will be laid off if this does not change. So I'm asking you cheerleader what can Sony do better or do you just want them to keep chasing.... A number that keeps rising with the difference being under a million in most cases? No true must have games if you look at sales. I mean really it the world was based off praise then all those defaulted loans that are cropping the economy would make every one rich. The truth is why is the ps3 still 3rd what happened? Why can Sony not reach such a weak company like ms after 4+ years. Ms had a 1 year head start not 4 years. How does 1 year equal 4 years of trailing? Is Sony that weak now? Ms sold all of their 1st parties too. Not ammount of trick kept nintendo down this gen and the game sales prove it. Sure there was shovelware but even with that people found the good games themselves and some games continue to sale because people not just reviewers like them. If your out of touch then just say so no one will get mad at you. It's hard to see your tastes as niche it you don't ever look at the bigger picture v
Don't preach at me.. I've played mario kart, and new super mario bros on the wii.. Yea they are fun but I don't know too many people that ran out and bought a wii just for those games.. In fact of the people I know that bought those games had a wii long before they came out.. My harcore xbox buddy bought a wii shortly after launch and regretted his decision.. So he gave the wii to his parents and they play the wii almost as much as he plays the 360.. Thats the driving force of the wii.. Parents, grandparents, middle aged women, and kids are the reason the wii was selling like fresh crack.. Lol of course the never dying fall back.. Sales. It's a testament to how well sony is doing by the fact that the gap between microsoft and sony has only narrowed despit all of the bad publicity and the propoganda spewed by microsoft.. Even with a year head start, all of that exclusive dlc they bought, halo, and price drops the fact that microsoft didnt blow the gap wide open is proof that sony still knows what they are doing.. Just because sony didnt come into this generation and leave all competitors at the way side like last gen does not equal a failure.. In fact we the consumers win because all of this competition has driven up quality..
Yeah and I love how PS3 fans all of a sudden love vgchartz again.
I also love how you're claiming PS3 fanboys love VG Chartz when it's been said time and time again that VG Chartz undertracks numbers.
Wow, the PSP is closer to the 360 in sales than the 360 is to the Wii. Didn't see that coming. Good for them.
in last fiscal year ps3 has sold 12 million more software than x360: http://www.playstationunive...
PS3 still stuck on 37.6m. I guess it takes Sony 4 months to sell 100,000 consoles judging by vgchartz
They had them higher but of course had to lower it when official numbers came out. Of course like a blind fanboy you will forgo logic and reason and simply cry.. Let's say PS3 has 45 million sold okay? It is still dead last. You're like the kid who got last place in a race and wanted to argue over a 10th of a second when you lost by 5 minutes. Bet if they had pS3 at 100 million and we all know that is completely wrong but you wouldnt be here arguing but using their numbers for proof. Like even if we counted all the units sitting in warehouses or in transport to retailers PS3 would suddenly be first.
In fairness, if the race were over, you'd have a point. He is questioning why the numbers aren't increased because the race is still being run. He is looking for ground gained. No one is finished and complaining.
That does not make any sense. And if you do not understand why, i won't bother. Maths can be skewed. 360 has been out a year longer+ In some places. Now, who is in second place?
There is only one math not two and math says that the ps3 is still last. Oh it's catching up very slowly. Are the games selling not really. Why don't you list some system sellers for the ps3? He'll list some blu rays that are pushing ps3 into homes. The wii had the same problem and crushes ms with game sales and hardware sold. Even when a complete wii setup with wii fit use to cost almost $700 (250+70or280+wii fit about 180) that game along sold 22 million and gamers bought it also. Sony choose to try and fight ms with pc like games and all of them failed except cod. Sony believes gamers want stories or movie when all we want is games and it does help that these stories Sony puts out are not very good when compared to real movies. Gaming is powered by young gamers and until I see unchartered or some other Sony ip as a Saturday morning cartoon we may never see them gain traction. Sure older gets like these games but many are going to look else where as time goes on.
With the smallest install base, PS3 has ALMOST sold just as much software as the 360 this year..... PS3: 64,304,499 360: 64,839,283 It only does everything... :)
Ever stop to think these are mult console owners spreading the love? The problem is xbox has no exclusive to compete with ps3 right well why is the ps3 not out selling the xbox by millions in consoles and games? Why are these exclusives not selling? What is wrong? The cheerleading is not working only a small group of gamers are truely sheep. Any one can say they want something and not buy it a similar thing happened to the neogeo. So give Sony some critical feed back if they can do better. Lots of ps3 devs are going to suffer if this is not corrected.
Pokemon Black and White has just released and look at it now in the top 50 YEARLY sales SONY & Microsoft has been doing great they are catching the Wii
Mario Kart Wii sold 2.25 million this year so far alone when the game is 128 weeks old ... Mario Kart Wii has been an absolutely incredible sales monster for Nintendo. In my personal opinion ... that and Metroid Prime 3 Corruption are this generations most UNDERrated games by the media. (yes, I know Metroid Prime has a 90% average on gamerankings/metacritic but outside of the positive reviews, not one really talked about it much)
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