NowGamer looks at why the Kinect commercials point to disaster for Microsoft's motion control device...
I think the hardcore market all know that Kinect is a last desperate act by Microsoft, just like the slim console, who needs a new, slimmer 360 when there are hardly any 360 exclusives coming? It's all hardware and no games. I'm not interested in Kinect, but very interested to see how the market will react!
I don't care what side of the fence you're on. When you see those commercials you have to think. OMG! Are they serious.
This is the article for you. Pre-order numbers (vote with $) tell a completely different story. Good luck with that doom and gloom.
my daughter loved it. MS is trying to tap into the casual market and I think they are going the right way to steal some of the Wii crowld, which is not something easy to do.
So Stuart what your saying then is that Sonys slim then was an attempt to play catch-up with M$? Since M$'s slim was a last "desperate" effort then Sonys slim must have been a "desperate" move to push sales. Kinect isnt for me but you fanboys invade every Kinect article to say teh Kinect is doomed.
Hi it's me Stuart, 11-4 agree favours to your 1-2 disagree favours, arrogant sod. I wouldn't have bothered with a 'Sony slim' if they hadn't got so many quality exclusives in the pipeline, see it's the games that make a console. I've got a 360, I'm not a fanboy, I'm just not shelling out MORE cash on 360's (I'll stick with my Elite), especially when there is such a lack of exclusive content. But thanks for the comment "Armyntt"
Just my 2c i didnt mean to piss on your mom or something. But your comment just reek'd of fanboyism. You cant just leave a simple comment without bashing the competitor of your console. BTW number of agree/disagrees doesnt make ones statement correct. Just means there could also be other fanboys in the room. Go to any Kinect article the sony fanboys are like flys on shit(not saying Kinect is shit, havent played it myself). You said why buy a slim when there is no exclusives coming? Well first off multiplats are games too. Besides fanboys most people could care less if the game can be played on another console or not.
Me again, multiplats are games, it doesn't take a genius to work that out, which is why you probably pointed it out. 2 disagree's on that comment pal already, maybe it's the 'pissing on mom' bit that did it. At no point did my comment reek of 'fanboyism', perhaps you however are maybe a wee bit too sensitive! Let's get something straight! I didn't buy a slim because I have an Elite already, it's under warranty and will be for a long time yet, to switch to a slim will be costly (spent enough on 360's already, RROD's), not to mention getting my game saves and DLC's across. I'm not bothered, I did upgrade to a PS3 slim though beacause you can simply slip the HDD out and into the new slim. Brill. Now then love, if you want to continue bashing me for doing what I see as logical behaviour, suit your fucking self cock, but don't accuse me of been a Sony fanboy when I think one of the best games this gen is Alan Wake, cunt. Probably get banned again for that!
These commercials/adverts finally confirm what we've suspected all along – that Kinect is for casual gamers and casual gamers only. Microsoft is only after that Wii market/money. Will Kinect ever be used for more core games? Or – more importantly – could it ever be used for more core games?
They seem to just copy Nintendo's marketing drive, but without the celebrity appeal. Pretty worrying.
They've got the whole aspiration thing right though – "your family could be this wholesome, if only you buy them Kinect!" Can any real family relate to these ads?
"Your front room/family room could look this amazing, if you just bought Kinect..."
lol i still don't know why people basically want a £120 eyetoy, at least move has improved on wiimote, kinect made things worse, ms is the only company I know to copy an make things worse and not better at all, well apart from graphics lol. sorry but i just played on kinect and it was as i feared, very glitch and laggy and worse than the original eyetoy, only graphics make it look like a step in the right direction, everything else was horrible, even the menu interactivity was a pain in the ass
funny because right now zero issues with move, it works perfectly, and i love sports champions. also yes I acknowledge the step from 2d to 3d, but honestly the camera is just not running fast enough, it needs to have a faster fps rate to measure motions more accurately without lag, kinect runs at 30fps just like eyetoy did and has to deal with 3d data you really don't know much if you think that will have no affect on how things are processed from a motion to on screen actions.
Hating on Kinect does nothing to help Move sales trool.
Good to see you man the trenches for Microsoft. NOT!
"Hating on Kinect does nothing to help Move sales trool" xfanboyz are always talking abot "hate" when people are just writting facts, opinions : so insecure. by the way, move works, has great reviews, and it's sold out almost everywhere ( you can easily see it's not a fake sold out, when you count all gamers here who have bought it.)
The problem with Kinect in relation to "family fun" is when you are standing behind someone, waving your hands behind someone, accidentally or simply because you don't have enough space to stand anywhere else. I think that is the main issue with Kinect. Even if it is laggy there are still people who are gonna enjoy it and be happy with it.
is to get to peoples wallets,not hearts.once you buy it..they've got your HARD EARNED MONEY.....
"there’s about half a second of gameplay footage between all three advertisements." So true.
i don't think so actually, half a second? so cynical. there's at least three quarters of a seconds worth of gameplay video between them.
well when you look at bungies move,then studio closures for the core player it doesn,t look promising.well there,s fable i suppose that won,t use kineckt,oh it is
Yet again none one seems to get the point MS are making with kinect. (its for every one) Easy to use as no buttons and the 1st batch of games as we have all known since E3 is that they are aimed at the casual audience. MS hsve shown the public when in Japan about some core games coming out next year. The Hard core have enough games comming out to keep them going until Feb next year before we see a raft of core games released for Kinect. Yes they are in a way copying the wii but that is because the 360 is know as the core games console as there are not many family games for it, where ms aims to change this with Kinect by bring the onto the xbox as well as showing off the core games later on. they are not putting core games on Kinect on release as they want to cerate an image for Kinect over xmas but then through out the year release more core games. Look at what Sony did with move the re released games with move support and 80% of them got bad scores compared to the ds3 version of the game and this is not going to push the move into the wii market. Yes Move has some amazing games comming out for it Like KZ3 GT5 but the family gamers are not into these games and MS know this. I know it looks like MS are moving away from the core market but this is far from it. The core keeps the £ and $ coming on for xbox live dlc's ect but the family gamers will broaden then 360 market to be a middle console like the ps3 has become.
Kinect is for families. Hence the 'Kin' in the name. And combination with the word 'connect'. Families... connecting... by playing together. It's laboured, but makes sense. In a marketing kind of way.
''In any real household, said child would likely be weeping in the foetal position after being told they’ll have to contain that sort of nonsense to their own room. Which is five feet wide.''
No Fable support and high price = no Kin. buy for me this year
its almost like MS are gunna use pester power to sell Kinect. It may sell. It may not but is that the point for us here on n4g. Most of us will probably have families and young children of our own. Nothing wrong with MS catering to them imo its just the defenders, like the haters annoy others, are really irking me. Some of them still feel some magical core games will be available at some point...thats not kinects direction. It doesnt take a brain surgeon to see this. Its just not precise enough but ultimately it may still be fun for its target i.e our kids and our families.
1st - like I said before these are not the only commercials, these are just tho build buzz, common sense they will advertise the titles themselves, this is just merely a teaser trailer if you will. Marketing 101. 2nd- It is not expensive, millions have bought rockband and guitar hero bundles, millions will buy kinect. I think I payed about $220 for the rockband bundle. When you have a job you can get what you want lol, complaining about $150 and it comes with a game, get serious and get a job while your at it.(not to mention I'm getting the $399 bundle, so I'll actually be paying $100, the is a $50 value, so technically kinect is being sold at $50 and you purple want a price cut, expect them to remove the game and sell it for $99 down the road to appease you cheap skates. 3rd - This guy is full of shit, you do not need a livingroom. Just look at the E3 booths. The distance is the same as wii and move. To play it safe 6ft is recommend but 4ft will work just fine guaranteed. So the whole parents won't give up the living room for the kids is bogus cause if the kid has a place to play wii the have a place to play kinect. 4th - The hardcore vs casual debate. Not sure why you guys are making it complicated. Kinect will have party games, it's proven people love party games. You don't like party games? Then don't buy a kinect. Tgs has shown us they can give us "core" games when they don't even have to lol. Kinect would do just fine with dancing games, sport games and the occasional killer app (star wars) and kinect supported shooters (ghost recon: future solider). Us buyers of kinect appreciate how serious developers are taking kinect, despite you fanboys saying they hate it everyone seems to be on board. 5th - money, money, money. Microsoft only wants your money. The wii is a gamecube with motion sensing so nintendo could make profit on day one, pretty sure that's the first time a console made money on day one, impressive. Why won't nintendo get there online running up to the standard level? More money out there pockets that's why. $ony, oh sony doesn't want your money, you think it's coincidence that no games have come close to filling a blu-ray disc? Well that's because the ps3 is just a blu-ray trojan horse. It's there technology and they stand to only make a profit off of it. You can buy a blu-ray player for under $100 bucks now, I wouldn't but you can lol, but when the ps3 first came out people mostly got it because blu-ray players were $800-1000 so yes the ps3 was an amazing offer even at $600, sorta like what they did with the ps2 and dvd. Smart sony, kinda obvious but smart. Every company wants your money it's why they go into business. In exchange for money they offer you something to do, I will be glad to waste time on kinect, like I said if it fails I'll enjoy it just for dashboard browsering, then again people have been playing Wii sports for 4 yrs, kinect sports is just as fun from my experience, so it's a win win in my book, but of course that's just my book.
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