Gamereactor has taken Microsoft's current title and pitted it against the over one and a half years old Killzone 2 in a graphics duel. The result? Look for yourself and decide.
especially with screenshot. i personally like Halo Reach's game play better, but in terms of graphics, Killzone 2 beats Halo Reach hands down.
The article itself says "Killzone 3" but the title here says Killzone 2? Anyways they both look like great games :)
@whatARump true I almost reported it for bad editing until I noticed the pictures says Killzone 2
The funny thing is that nobody is talking about the gameplay and that's where HALO reach truly shines.
The article pic is one that I designed and some one used it and changed it. Mine says KZ3 and they changed it to 2. Here is the original. I did it in february. http://www.flickr.com/photo... @below, Thanks. I know my way around photoshop :)
This is one fine fanart.
It should be Halo Reach V Killzone 3, not Killzone 2. and to be fair it should be finished code for both games, not pre-alpha for K3 etc.
if u look at the screen shot, how can you dispute that KZ2 doesnt look better??? @Whitto the pictures are from Killzone 2. if you played the game, you may recognize few places. And btw, picture says its Killzone 2. in the article, it refers to KIllzone 2. " We have taken the opportunity to pit Microsoft's current title against the over one and a half years old Killzone 2 graphics in a duel. The result? Look at yourself and decide" google tranlation yea KZ2 look THAT good @8-Bit Lol did u photoshop and made that into 3??? Lolol. get a life fanboy @Raztad we still have not seen Rage on console.. E3 they showed PC hooked with Xbox controller. they said the settings are "similar" to xbox though.... but i will believe it when i see it.
People should refrain from talking about fun in a article comparing screenshots of games. It is utterly pointless. First of all fun is totally subjective, and second it is just offtopic. The KZ shots in the article are from a KZ2 beta code. I find this article unnecessary. I dont think anyone was touting Halo:R against KZ2. Let's wait for the big players (Crysis 2, RAGE) to start making comparisons.
"The funny thing is that nobody is talking about the gameplay and that's where HALO reach truly shines" Yeah because Halo's point and shoot is so much better then killzone's point and shoot right?
People saying halo has better gameplay or is funner, that's your opinion just like my opinion is that killzone has better gameplay and is funner. There is no dispute over which game has better graphics (killzone).
gamereactor's flaimbait yet again.. sad sad sad.. do some journalism.. i say it in every one of your articles and nothing.. lame excuse of a site
@8-Bit "Lol did u photoshop and made that into 3??? Lolol. get a life fanboy" 8-BIT clearly uploaded it in february so yeah..
The version of Rage shown at E3 was the 360 build on PC with a 360 controller.
2 completely different games, 2 completely different types of gameplay. I still think it's pretty unreasonable to compare the two, they're totally different.
Why do we still do this? Halo is awesome and fun as hell. Killzone is awesome and fun as hell. Period.
This is no brainer, reach isn't "Outstanding" in the graphics department, its just better than the previous Halo.
Each game has quite a distict graphical approach. I own both games and I can honestly say that they both look equally good. All the fanboys saying Killzone 2 destroys Halo Reach are just silly, delusional fanboys. Even if you haven't played both games you can tell by the screenshots that the two games are essentially on par with one another.
compete with killzones in the graphics department?? gameplay is another matter though
Halo can really be compared to star wars as far as cult followings go... Halo 1 and maybe 2 could be considered great things that pushed the gameplay bar... neither ever really pushed any bar graphically though... halo 3 was extremely subpar... ODST was supposed to be just an addon, then MS decided to slap it on a disk and treated it like it was a full game, charged full price, and people still came in droves of millions to drink the koolaid.. Its just like the starwars movies.. Even though the last 3 were progressively more and more terrible, millions of cult followers still praised it and went and saw the movies numerous times.. As im not a huge halo fanboy(i do like the series) i probably won't rush out and get the game i will eventually borrow it from my bro-in-law who is( and has even read alot of the books..) But thats the point, this game just has to be good enough to not tick off the cult following and any game with halo in the name will sell millions and be touted as the best thing since sliced bread... If people tried to argue that odst looked better than kz2, do you really think that people wont argue the same thing with reach?? Thats why this is flamebait and why the first comment on here is correct... I honestly didn't really look closely at the comparisons and I don't care, never really played kz2, (language is really bad and I got small kids around normally).. but the safe prediction here is that kz2 fans will say kz2 is way better and halo fans will say halo looks way better, just like ALMOST EVERY single comparison between such games... My thought, let the people who enjoy halo enjoy halo, let the people who enjoy kz2 enjoy it, what does it matter how they compare? especially when halo has never been about graphics to begin with(or at least I hope it hasn't =P)... its really the only way everyone can win.
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blo... Large case of denial all over the place in here.
have a bub.
Y'all are postin' in a Troll article. Oh shit, that's what I'm doing now. *runs*
Reach has an edge here. Killzone is just too brown and grey.
Wow, Reach sure has a lot of motion blur. How about some shots that aren't in motion? About 3/4 of those Killzone 2 shots are stationary, and basically all of the Reach pics are in motion so that the blur hides the lower res and lack of anti-aliasing.
I just looked at the pics, and if you played KZ2, you'll know that if your not running you still hold the gun up. So to assume that the pics aren't in motion, especially when there is motion blur in a few of them, is just wrong. I played halo before, but I could easily argue that Halo shots were not in motion.
It's really a landslide victory for K3. Heck, even K2 is leagues above Halo Reach.
"Heck, even K2 is leagues above Halo Reach" No it isn't. They both look good in their own ways. KZ2 isn't in any way leagues above Halo Reach. That's loony talk.
killzone 2 has motion blur too, and probably for the same reason. i beat killzone 2, xxmr.echoxx is the gamer tag if u dont believe me. but killzone 2 has horrible textures, but amazing lighting. the lighting is why it looks so good.
If it wasn't for sensitive fanboys and trolls their would be such a thing as flame bait. /Think about it.
Most of them don't even read the articles they comment under.
It's not flamebait, it's just utterly pointless. We know which one looks better, we don't need a comparison to "Duel" them against each other.
... and still Killzone 2 wins. I haven't seen anything on console that looks more impressive than Killzone 2 according to FPS that has been released.
halo series kills killzone series anyday, in every aspect. actually it kills all of the ps3 fps series
i dunno about every aspect.. I'll give you sales though
You forgot "/S"
with where you picked up your copy of Reach? People can argue and debate over story, online, modes, etc and so on but Killzone 2 is in another league graphically compared to Reach. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. You would have to be legally blind not to see that. I just completed Reach's campaign 20 minutes ago and I beat Killzone 2 twice. I know of which I speak. You can check my XBL and PSN accounts for yourself.
lol you 33 disagrees lmao
and what's the point in doing a comparison using shrunken compressed screenshots.
At the end of the day I'm still playing KZ2 online with the new maps. Halo is pretty much like Resistance 1&2 gameplay. Those two are damn near the same gameplay wise.
geez. the article is graphics comparison. not gameplay comparison.
This is the most brilliant idea to get site hits ever. Why don't I think of these things?
Raw Truth When reviewer's give Halo games 10's for graphics you know something is seriously crooked with the review system.
Reach is better looking and know ill get dissagrees but fuck it. I prefer halos art style and also the way it plays. Im not trolling killzone 2 because i love that game.
You like games that look like a fast ford fan in Essex designed the graphics.Good for you. The fact is whatever YOU prefer,tech cannot be argued.KZ is well beyond Halo for graphics tech.
Killzone 2 just made Reach look like a Xbox 1 game P.S. Reach is only SUB HD http://www.examiner.com/vid...
Killzone is 2 years old for start and Halo Reach isn't even true 720p so unfair comparison. But somebody needs to I guess to get it off there chest be they a Sony or 360 fanboy.. Terrible times we live in.. The only thing is Halo reach should blow Killzone 2 away considering MS say the 360 just as powerful as PS3 and it came out near 2 years later (1 1/2 to be exact Feb 2009). Yet it doesn't not even bungie with MS help could do it.. The only thing this article proves is the 360 is maxed out.
The sad thing is they are comparing it to Killzone 2 and Not Killzone 3. KZ3 blows it away.
Yes Bungie have done a good job but KZ3 looks better pre alpha! also Spydr07 re your vette have a look for the TOP GEAR review of it done a couple of years ago when JC pushes the rear end of the car and it bends in LOL most European cars handle fairly well VERY few yank tanks do but the yank tanks all have the same problem CHEAP PLASTIC interiors and POOR SORRY VERY POOR build quality and thats a fact!!
ALL of you saying that Killzone 2 or even 3 on gameplay is better than Halo: Reach are full of bullshit. I played KZ2 multiplyer and NO fucking way is better than HALO REACH CUT THE CRAP and pick a control stop whining, stop defending KZ2 like a freaking desperate fanatic and play Halo: Reach. Halo Reach right now have become one of the most competitive FPS arena right now where teamwork is the essence of the multiplayer more than ever in Halo. This time you need the guy running next to you. PLAY the multiplayer and you will find that those teams that lose is because everybody its on their own agenda. YOU can take a wide picture of a battle in Halo Reach multiplayer and post it on a wall and look like a damn work of art.
Stop preaching Halo, cause not everyone likes that cup of tea. I prefer badcompany 2 to anything on the consoles right now. I never have been a halo fan, and will have to rent Reach to see if I like it, but I'm pretty sure I won't if it like any of the other Halo games. I liked Killzone 2's gameplay over Halo 3, so I probally won't like Reach. I must add that I am hyped about the new SoCom coming out.
i go on threads and try to act the best i can as a fair "independent critic" if i may self title myself. i had a 360 on day one lasted until about 8 months after the ps3 came out and i've only been playing my ps3 since, of course I've loved halo from the first xbox and I've borrowed my buddies working 360 to play gears and halo iterations on their appropriate release dates for a week or so until i beat them and have a good taste of the mp... that said... gam3g0d has been dormant for far too long and i bought the reach bundle and although there is so much cool stuff the 360 does, it is SLIGHTLY, well i don't even want to say outdated until rage comes out and multiplat marvels in terms of graphics, so scratch that. Basically, I'm here to say although I've only had a ps3 and believe its stronger bla bla bla, halo has that magic... and i thought reach was the best halo experience I've ever had/ am having... i did miss MC a little, but they really made u care for each of ur noble 6 and i'm playing it on every diff. and going crazy with mp... i just woke up believe it or not so i'm rambling, but if i may digress... the "kinnect ready" as they call it, basically the 360 slim is SOOO damn sexy, and i just wish the slim was the 720 with reach as a launch title, i feel that way because of the exterior look it should have 1 gig RAM, the newest custom ati chip, bluray or a custom 20 gb storage disc that ms makes, etc, etc. i have it lying next to my fat ps3 and it just out sexy's it ( out sexy's it?)i just hate that its late in the 360's life and whether its showing its age or not, i basically wish the 360 slim was the 720 and it was more powerful than the ps3, all that just by looking at it thinking is this going to become obsolete soon when the next gen starts? also i feel i now need the ps3 slim just so i have two sexy matt black consoles (even tho the 360 slim still looks cooler, it keeps reminding me of alien ware lol) ps3 slim is by no means ugly tho imo. ok, so its the first time they let me recover my name with out a 6 year old credit card info that i didn't have any more, and I NEED LIVE FRIENDS, u can check out my profile so see what kind of gamer i am etc, but if u like to win, but arn't immature about it, gam3g0d is the name (thats a zero in "g0d") if u got this far i applaud u, play beyond and jump in!
Nice read. I also wish the 720 was out and Halo Reach was a launch title. Oh well...guess we have to wait another 2 years. As long as there are good games I suppose its bareable. Added you as a friend on Xbox Live. My gamertag is: dragunrising I've been playing a lot of Halo Reach lately (:-p). Hope to see you online!
it amazes me that a 2 year old game still outdoes halo
Pointless debate is pointless. Flamebait article is flamebait. Seriously, and as someone who bought every game in both series(bar Reach but I'll no doubt pick it up one day)I feel I can say this without bias, they shouldn't ever have been compared. Halo was never, esp this generation, trying to be a graphically real game, never needed nor wanted to be the GTF king and it'#s style isn't very suited to showing it off anyway. Halo is about Halo-it's accessible, it's gameplay stands the test of time and it plays to it's own crowd while adding features rather than a higher resolution. Looks are simply more what Killzone is about than they are to Halo. By the same yardstick the comparisons do Killzone no favours either. It was never meant to be like Halo and the "Halo Killer" stuff was almost entirely a media invention. Killzopne1 was just a very over ambitious PS2 game that never quite came off and GG agree still getting over that today. KZ2 looked amazing for a console game-that's where one of it's big strengths are among others, but Halo's are very different and Bungie are more secure with their fanbase so just concentrate on building up the feature set and honing the classic gameplay. Two different series with not many shared areas. Halo never aimed to be the best looking console game but you get the feeling that GG really wanted to after they couldn't make the game they would have liked to on the PS2. We will see if they continued the great strides taken in KZ2 with the next game. Both series are great now, imho, and I don't get why they must be compared all the time when even someone who likes them both can see the3y're very different animals.
Here in Europe they are not running one advert showing any of Halo's in game graphics. In fact there is text at the bottom of each advert shown on TV saying that what is shown is NOT actual game footage. As opposed to the KZ2 adverts when they were ran. That speaks volumes in itself...
shouldn't it be Halo Reach vs Killzone 3 at least....that is just ignoring the flame bait of the article
there's no competition there thought! so might as well pit it against a year old game.
When you can play Killzone 2 or Killzone 3, 4 players splitscreen, online with no compromises to graphically fidelity, call me. Fact is, Halo Reach has one of the most impressive and sophisticated engines you'll ever see. Bungie did a great job. @ 8-bit You're missing the point. Killzone 2 looks good because there is nothing really going on under the hood. As a matter of fact, that's how most PS3 exclusive games are. It's funny that Europe is the PS3's biggest market when the console is more like an American muscle car; It'll beat you in a straight line with raw power but it's not nimble in the corners like most European sports cars that are less powerful. You ask it to do anything more and it struggles. You can't do anything really sophisticated with the engines because there is no memory.
No one said they didn't. The simple fact is Killzone 2 looks better than REACH and it is about 2 years old by now. Halo has always been about the variety of gamepaly and not graphics. Killzone is about graphics. This screen shot says it all http://www.gamereactor.de/m...
yeah stan so what your deflecting to is that 4 player slit screen beats better graphics in a graphics comparison....kool man ¬_¬ and the under the hood crap you're talking about is laughable....listen to yourself. If these articles make you make such silly comments stay away man. 'You ask it to do anything more and it struggles. You can't do anything really sophisticated with the engines because there is no memory. '...*looks at the usual suspects* the ones stan seems to overlook: Uncharteds, god of war killzones GT and ill compare it to what exactly......what are you on about stany boy. What 360 'european like' sophisticated engines beat any of the counterparts of the games ive mentioned forza vs gt5p maybe...... halo r vs killzone.... god of war vs ....ninjablade/ninja gaiden uncharted vs gears what engines on the 360 are more sophisticated stan....maybe you need some more memory. Not saying the ps3 is perfect by any stretch of the imagination but c'mon man...give credit where its due and keep it moving
Nothing under the hood? really? have you even played KZ2? Besides the graphics there is also the awesome physics, particle effects, sound and AI. The main reason I don't like Halo has nothing to do with the way it looks, it's how it feels. It feels like I'm playing a Saturday morning cartoon. Everything just feels so unrealistic, in KZ2 everything feels just about perfect and that makes it much more engaging. The other thing I don't like about Halo online is that it feels so empty, there is usually very little going on. Maybe Reach has improved things, but previous versions really needed more players or smaller maps.
Look at the games you just listed; they don't do anything sophisticated. There's no co-op, no splitscreen, no user created content using the engine, they're linear. I hope GT5 returns splitscreen and has truly dynamic environments. Fanboys blame "lazy" or "ignorant" developers when multiplatform games aren't up to par with PS3 exclusive but PS3 exclusives don't do anything. They take a V8, 507 horse power and drive in a straight line. And as for Gears of War versus Uncharted comparisons, again, when you can play Uncharted in splitscreen, online, with no compromises to its fidelity, call me.
LBP and 3D say, "Hello!" How is 3D coming along on the 360, by the way? Regarding American muscle cars, the Corvette says, "Hello!", too. I believe it owns MotorTrend's test track record, Raping Porshe 911 GT Turbos, tuners of all kinds, and many more. Hate all you want, but the power to weight ratio on a Vette is sick, as is the car. You will have a tough time finding a better stock car for the price. Which is a great segue into my next point...Stock for stock, PS3 kills the 360, much like a Vette does. This is the exact reason MS dumps millions and millions of dollars into getting 3rd party support. We all remember the GTA IV crap, right? All that money MS dumps to, basically, stay even with the PS3. Much like you'd have to do to compete with a Vette. :P Yup, your analogy rocks! I hate talking like a fanboy... But whatever, you're nothing more than a pathetic troll. Edit: Doesn't Unreal Tournament 3 have all the features you mentioned (co op, split, user created content)? Just sayin', is all... Go back and work on your tr0lling some more. Leave the real talks to the grown folks. You fail as a troll. P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C.
Take a corvette to the Austrian alps or any of the great driving roads in Switzerland or France and watch it get raped by the same 911. MotorTrend knows a much about cars as MTV knows about good music. Top Gear says hello!
Reach's engine is the most impressive and sophisticated engine we'll ever see? Are you serious? Might as well say Halo 3 was the most beautiful game back in 2007 (and completely ignore Uncharted: Drake's Fortune).
Reach is a good game but its engine is outdated.. you need a better engine to produce better graphics, physics lighting etc so your 'nothing under the hood argument' is ridiculous, and there's nothing demanding or sophisticated about 'split screen'... I just got done playing uncharted 2 on-line co-op with no compromises and kz2 has 32 player on-line without any as well... so what the hell are you on about?
How's Nurburgring? http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.google.com/#scli... 2008 Times: Corvette ZR1: 7:26.4 Porshe 911 GT2: 7:32.02 I'd call that R A P E D . Difference in price? $80k more for the Porsche. Porsche has posted a faster time, in a car that costs around $250k... Here's a comprehensive list of the track's lap records (note the cost of every car that did better than the Vette): http://webcache.googleuserc... Again, you fail and you're still a pathetic troll. I see you still have no comeback to anything else I said. Like, where's your answer for UT3? Hate on the game's score, but it can do everything you mentioned and still manages to look good. :D You won't reply because your whole argument and analogy just backfired. Oh. No!
your are infected with the greenberg bug. I asked you to tell me about the games i mentioned...You show me halo reach, halo reach and halo reach....Doesnt that prove a point stany boy...surely you can do better than one game and please dont bring user generated content to any conversation here. The 360's been out longer and has less games that actually have it. 'I hope GT5 returns splitscreen and has truly dynamic environments' like forza right....I mean night driving and online with forza munching graphics and local 2 player aint enough for you.... i suppose forza'a paint job makes it technically more sophisticated doesnt it...lol i dub thee laughable stan. I understand the new account......i also hate when i cant reply in debates so ill hold no grudge but you should really stop the nonsense you're spouting. We all know what console is the more sophisticated with the most sophisticated games including those in de ni el like.......you know...you