CVG thinks things are looking up for MS motion sensing...
Haven't seen any gameplay or people playing the games so currently I cannot say, some me some gameplay and then we will talk.
I agree its like screen shots aswel.... Gameplay is the only way to see if a game works and looks good....So show me the live gameplay footage and this time no smoke and mirrors please
But I am sure people like "Bastard" below, who we all know is a Kinect expert, will be able to fill us in with all the details the developers arn't willing to share at this point. Your turn Bastard. Go!
The thought of a new Steel Battalion and an update to THAT controller sounded great... Kinect ..... what a disappointment :/ r.
Sony displays hands on games for MOVE ranging from Hardcore to casuals and all in-between but ofcourse you get the naysayers crying "meh, not enough. teh fail" but MS doesn't show anything at all but puts out a name for next year like "Master battle monsters steel hardcore game for kinect" and you get "OMG sounds awesome! DAY ONE!" This gen is the worst I've ever seen w/ this BS
anyone ever seen that tv show? It could be made into a game that kinect should be good at. Seeing as it is all based on making your body try and fit through different geometric shapes in a wall that is moving towards the player. Wii couldnt do it and maybe the ps eye but that seems like the right type of game for kinect. Especially for the japanese gamer cause that is where that show originated. The show was funny to watch so perhaps the game could be just as fun to play. Or at least laugh at those playing.
Some gameplay is needed but the fact that these games are in development is great news. All except SB2 are new IPs and exclusive to the 360. Hopefully they all turn out decent.
the 360 console already has a solid 'core' base of players, so there is a market there. I had high hopes for Kinect, especially around integration with core games. Yes, I expected a lot of minigame motion gaming stuff - and thought that this was something to enjoy with the family.
if a game is ON RAIL its not HArdcore...
House of the Dead, Time Crysis, and so on are not hardcore games? Hmmm, last time I checked, those games are difficult and would be considered hardcore. Your reasoning is pure fail.
No. No hardcore
House of the Dead and Time Crysis being on rail is a game design choice. Star Wars Kinect is on rail because there is no way to move your character without a freaking controller. big difference. what are you gonna do? run into your TV? yell orders at your character? how do you even look on the sides without a joystick to move the camera? these are simple things a controller allows you to do. there is nothing hardcore about Kinect so far and I dont see how it's possible anyway. hardcore means precision and great timing, these 2 things arent really Kinect's strength.
Kirby it was a design choice based on the ARCADE. Which you held a plastic gun but didn't have a way to move the character.
i know its an arcade game, its still a design choice. we're debating if kinect can be hardcore or not. jriquelme claims on rail games cant be hardcore, which is false when it's on rail by choice (time crisis, house of), but true when on rail is mandatory (kinect). on rail + buttons / accessory = can be hardcore on rail + kinect = fart
I think that Kinect has boundless potential to engender new and interesting interactions with the games I love. I could pilot a ship (or mech) ala touch screen, like Joker in Mass Effect. My son's want to be able to scan their Nerf guns into Kinect and use them in the "Nerf War" game they have created in their minds. I think the potential is certainly there for Kinect to be awesome (the potential is also there for suckage). Until I see gameplay I am cautiously optimistic.
I can see that going horribly wrong. some one scanning a real gun because they want it to look authentic then not realize it is loaded and shoot someone.
I don't have any real guns in my house.
That is how I feel. While the announcements are encouraging I need to see this stuff in action. So many questions about how good the gameplay will be if the types of things you can do are limited(like walking).
ON RAILS = NOT HARDCORE
So Time Crisis on the PS3 is a casual game is it? Don't talk bollocks.
Weren't most of what they showed on-rails? Yeah, I'm not interested in on rails "hardcore" games.
Nobody knows how any of those games will play but you can expect the horror ones to be on-rails yeah which isn't really bad for horror themes
But isn't Heavy Rain also kind of on the rails since you rarely control where you are going? Does that mean HR isn't hardcore too?
Who said HR was "hardcore" (whatever that means). It's a cool game and straightforward enough for non gamers to get involved in... PS3 has lots of games of all types and plenty more on the way - not everything needs to be an FPS ya know. r.
Why can't Microsoft do the same without getting all the flak around here? Microsoft is clearly trying to do stuff other than shooters and they get mostly hate around here for a product that isn't even released yet. Double standards are abundant around here. What is OK for the PS3 to do is not OK for the 360 to do.
You do not "rarely" control where you are going. I won't say nice try because it wasn't. Heavy Rain has as much freedom as any other story driven title where you have to go to certain places or do certain things to progress. Last time I checked I was forced to go up a mountain in HALO 3 and destroy an AA gun. I really didn't get to choose not to go there if the game was to progress. Was I really forced to do that or was it a story objective. Was I forced to go after Cortana? Well? There were a lot of side missions in GTA IV but there are some missions you absolutely have to do in order to progress. HR has more interaction than simply shooting. Do you know what a rail even is? I don't remember too many games where a central character can die and the game will continue. And then the next time I play it I can let that character live and a different central character can die.
it has nothing to do with it been m$, kinect is shit full stop, its a good idea thats going horribly wrong, how many core gamers want to pay 130quid for all their games to be on rails?? i wouldn't personally, i like to control my games, explore them and play it at my own pace!!! if there was a promise out their that off rail games were gonna be released i would buy it (if the lag was patched), but unfortunately its impossible to do with out you having to jog on the spot all day, even then their would be limitations. end of the day if sony did it or a third party did it, i'd say the same thing. my mate tried kinect at gamescom and said theirs about a 4 second lag, then when he asked the m$ dude about it, he tried to blame the software and the devs... so the lag still hasn't been sorted and m$ are still going to release it. unlucky for those who buy good luck to ya.
http://n4g.com/user/blogpos... PS. They haven't showed any gameplay footage from any of the games yet, and even if they do and it turns out all of the games are ultra-hardcore these guys will find something else to complain about.
Why thank you. ProTip: Neither's perfect, but Sony does a lot less stupid shit to comment on than MS. And when you're reading a liveblog on the presser and they say "This shit looks on-rails", I'll think it's on-rails until they prove otherwise.
going to stop the fanboyism in your blog post AB. Guess it is back to the drawing board for you.
How is anything I've said "fanboy"? It's just an opinion. It won't hurt MS's stock price.
i'll reserve judgement.. people got excited when they showed star wars, the internet lit up.. then it was on rails.. all i saw was a video of people riding a dragon. same with steel battalion, .. so a game with millions of buttons on a system with no buttons??????????????? i'm more interested in move after tgs than i was after e3... but i've been let down before...
most kinect's games are lag.
People realize that project draco and battalion wars can be played with refular controllers right? The other games are on rails....... kinect is still super casual
Maybe we should wait and see the actual gameplay first?
Maybe MS should have shown us how they played instead of game play less trailers
Um...no. Not until I see something that convinces me otherwise.
well at least they're trying... i've been waiting for something a little more hardcore to arrive
Instead of Age of Empire online, Microsoft should have made some rts for kinect, like based off of futuristic war films where you see generals sweep units across battlefields.
I see selecting troops an for kinect though. Unless you sweep with one hand and select with the other.....Problem with RTS games for Kinect is they need buttons too from selecting troops to formation changes (Rome total way style stuff).
what if you changed the troop formations by stretching them out like with clicking the mouse in total war but using to hands. lol it would probably be a little confusing to do though.
for all we know they could be all on rail games. So yea wait for gameplay footage then decide if it is hardcore or not.
Of course it is hardcore. Greenberg will just redefine the word to suit the PR.
I have said for a long time MS will not drop the Core games for the 360 and look the exclusives for the 360 are starting back up again. Im really looking forward to Kinect and Move as well as the games that are coming out in 2011 its going to be another big year for MS Sony and Nintendo. I really think this gen is bring the best out of all 3 company's.
And the 2nd question is, is there any good Core game?
I don't mind if they did. Bring it on Microsoft. I though this might just be a slaughter in the motion control war but it looks like Kinect has some teeth after all. Come on fight and struggle to the last. It will make it a much sweeter victory when we win.
The sound and details of these games appear a little better then what is coming out this year. But no screens, video, or footage of people playing and we really can't determine at this time. Its a step in a better direction, but we need to see it in action before we can determine.
Is there actually a way to have a non on rails game for Kinect? Serious question, no sarcasm intended.
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