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Are turn-based RPGs dead?

Much to the chagrin of the classic RPG fan, role-playing games nowadays have departed from the turn-based combat system of old to a more action-oriented battle system. Games like Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect, and Fallout 3 all could be classified as "action RPGs." What happened to the traditional turn-based RPG where attacking an opponent caused a number to pop up over their head showing exactly how much they were hurt? Could the turn-based RPG a dead genre?

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Shadow Flare5125d ago

I hate this view square is taking that they need to get away from turn based fighting cos it's an old style of gameplay, or a Japanese only style of gameplay. It's not. It's simply a different style of gameplay which incorporates a different strategy into the fighting mechanic. Most board games are turn based. You don't see anyone going, "chess is crap now. Let's screw the turn based system and make chess a free for all. Move your pieces whenever you want!" No! Turn based fighting is great! I love it. There's a real element of strategy to it. My favourite rpg's have all had turn based fighting , and one reason I don't buy new final fantasies, is because of the new fighting style. So take that as you will square. But square have just lost the plot with everything these days anyway

NYC_Gamer5125d ago (Edited 5125d ago )

turn-based rpgs will never be dead...and i think they're needed along side their action based rpg family...

Xander7565125d ago

But how many turn-based ones have been released in recent years? Not many...and dwindling.

Shadow Flare5125d ago

Yeah, but not because the fans have been asking for it. It's because developers think that's what we want. Well I don't want it

Xander7565125d ago

Agreed! I want a turn-based RPG SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad.

genshiken5125d ago

more "jrpgs are dead" articles lol. just give it up they not going nowhere. there is a market for turned based rpgs(they pretty much are talking about jrpgs)which will keep buying these types of games whether the haters agree or not. I'm getting atelier rorona for my ps3 this month and that's a turned based rpg.

albel_nox5125d ago

I like a lot of the more action based rpgs that have come out but I'll always have a place for turn-based rpgs. The problem is turn-based rpgs are considered outdated and are guaranteed lower review scores and some people sadly base all their decisions on review scores.

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The 7 Best Final Fantasy Characters: Unveiling the Legends

While FFVII ranks highly, there's more to the series than one game. Here's Chit Hot's picks for the seven best Final Fantasy characters.

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Lost Odyssey Is Still One Of The Best Xbox RPGs Ever

17 years later, it still stands out.

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shinoff2183223d ago

I liked blue dragon more. Lost odyssey is the shit though.

jznrpg223d ago

Two of the few games I still own for Xbox360 . I have Magna Carta 2 , Last Remnant but also have the PS4 version so I may have got rid of it and I have the DS version of Blue Dragon. I think and a few others but I forget what they are since I don’t dust them off. that’s about it.

shinoff2183222d ago (Edited 222d ago )

Another one I still havent got to try is infinite undiscovery. I read it was pretty linear but I usually fk with tri ace(star oceans are great).

Really my only issue with lost odyssey was the level cap they hit you with throughout the game. I enjoy just relaxing and doing some grinding every once in awhile. Could've atleast given the option. Other then that. Excellent game.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The 360 imo had atleast half or more that Gen of being the better jrpg system. I bought one earlier then I normally would have for some, and Alan wake. Japanese devs really got in their feelings that Gen and dropped the ball(thanks Phil phish, cocky ass ign, etc)

darthv72222d ago

You'd be better off playing Lost Odyssey on an XBO or Series X as no disc swapping and it looks and plays much better. Same with Blue Dragon. I still keep my 360 hooked up for games not on the bc list. for everything else, I use the series x now. Just last night I installed arkham origins as there is no 8th gen version like asylum/city.

I love having bc on xbox one/series hardware.

shinoff2183222d ago

Darth

When I bought the the Xbox one off a couple worker. That was the first thing indid. Bought blue dragon and lost odyssey. Been waiting to catch infinite undiscovery on sale but I forget to check.

I used to own the 360 versions but I bought these digital. I'd like to track down the 360 ones again but no huge deal. I was actually playing through lost odyssey waiting for starfield to drop.

RaidenBlack222d ago

Is Lost Odyssey coming to PS, too?

cthulhucultist223d ago

The game was indeed amazing. Great characters, gameplay and story!

But the dream sequences penned by Shigematsu were sublime.

I still remember many of these stories and I have integrated in the past in my D&D campaign many years ago.

RpgSama223d ago

I'm not going to lie, I cried on more than on a couple of them

Dabigsiebowski223d ago

Microsoft should have just kept pumping money into these guys. Same with a lot of the other studios... the blundered hard.

Lost Odysee deserved a franchise even though development wasn't smooth

Michiel1989223d ago

Am I the only one who doesn't wanna see every good game get sequel after sequel? It was a great game, but sometimes it's better to just make a one off and then create a new universe. Sadly that costs a lot more money and publishers don't wanna risk it, but I would definitely prefer it

shinoff2183222d ago

I'm fine with sequels in jrpgs, even in the vain of ff sequels, all new stories and characters. It does get old in other genres though sometimes. For the most part I just game by game basis it all.

FinalFantasyFanatic222d ago

They could have done it like Final Fantasy, kept the title name and just start with a new world/characters, it's not like the creator isn't familar with that.

Concertoine223d ago

Idk, Japan never bit for Xbox despite their best efforts around this era. Mistwalker never exploded either, despite future partnerships with Nintendo whichhad a much better chance at success

BrainSyphoned223d ago

It's not like it has had any competition since 2007. Would really like to own the short stories from it in book form.

PapaBop222d ago

360 had some amazing JRPGs in it's early days, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia off the top of my head were all amazing games.

jznrpg223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

The problem with most MS games on 360 was they didn’t make the games they paid for them and that makes you less money in the long run and isn’t something you can continue to do especially with declining sales of consoles. MS should have been starting and growing studios from the beginning but they went for paid games and it leaves them without the knowledge and culture of making games.

shinoff2183222d ago

Good points. Never thought of that like that back then.

Sgt_Slaughter222d ago

Not to mention killing the Japanese market that had all sorts of crazy and fun releases up until 2009-2010. They could have gained momentum on Nintendo and kept that going into the Xbox One era, but decided to "unify" efforts and that all but ended their presents in the country. Now, PS4's outsell the Xbox Series S three years into the new system's life cycle, and the 2/3DS at one point was doing the same.

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The older it gets, the more I respect Final Fantasy XIII

Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972277d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus277d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim276d ago (Edited 276d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda276d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B275d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125276d ago (Edited 276d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic275d ago (Edited 275d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic275d ago (Edited 275d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981275d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot275d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda275d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot275d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy275d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake277d ago (Edited 277d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay275d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12277d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay275d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183277d ago (Edited 277d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB276d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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