At PAX 2010 in Seattle, WA Chris Solis got to chat about Killzone 3 with North American Producer Mike Gram amidst the crowds. Gram left Solis with some interesting responses.
..."Well honestly the game sucks!" This is what you say when you put a game out there... All in all I'm looking forward to my beta invite.
GT5, LBP2, and Reach can also fit into that category of high value.
i agree , maybe black ops too imo..
No, maybe not. I feel like we can conclude with LBP2, GT5, Halo: Reach and Killzone 3.
call of duty and value cannot be in the same sentence...
And I'm pro ps3 and killzone one of my favorite franchises(still play kz2), but killzone 3 hasn't really shown me anything new and featureful like black ops and reach had shown fps wise.And lbp2 blows features out the water! Jetpacks, snappier controls, brutal melee, diff enviornments, move support, 8 man squads, 3d. That's it really. And I reeeeeaaaallly hate the friggin spawn times! Hurry gg show me FEATURES! black ops is coming, and I might just buy that instead of waiting til feb !
LBP2 offering way more value than Killzone 3. They will both be awesome but LBP2 will not get old for a long time because of the great tools for creating awesome levels and playing millions of user created levels.
what are those boxes in the background servers for the mplayer there? Almost looks like a 360 s. That was a sony booth only I assume.
"i am the most smartest guy in the world" see i can say good things about me too
"No game is offering the value of Killzone 3" why dont't you guys just watch the hole f**king video O_o the guy has a point ..
Halo Reach called..endless value...we will see Killzone 2 had no value at all...so dont know yet...go and see how many people are playing that near the 100s...on killzone.com Halo Reach campaign firefight forge matchmaking customgames theatre armoury endless customization. Hope they add all this is Killzone 3 :P
I hope so too. Love both the games as they are similar but use differently types of gameplay within the FPS genre. I do like it when a game sees another do something well like halo adopting the horde mode of gears, or killzone 3 adopting jetpacks like reach, or tons of games using a cover system. if it works why not adopt it? I would like to see something like a firefight or horde in Killzone 3, I would also like to see the cover system in multi, and map editors are welcome in any game, like halo, GT, and LBP. We already know Killzone takes alot from other genres already, and thats what makes it a good game. Hope they continue to add features on top of what looks like a beautiful game.
Then just stick to Halo. No complaints. They are different game types for different people.
does anyone know wen beta invites are going out?
Sounds interesting, can't wait.
2 words: E.T.
E and T are letters not words.
It depends on the person taste but yeah,,,, Wooo KZ3 KZ2 party no yes maybe so....
Maybe he meant GT5
or LBP2 or Reach.
.. and am eagerly awaiting more information, especially the beta, for KZ3. But I think it's too early for him to claim this when more than half of the information about KZ3 is still either a mystery or under development. I hope he lives up to his words.
mehhh no other game offer a great value like Oblivion
For me it, was Fallout 3(see what I did there? Just busted a killer rhyme. Cool). That game kept giving more and more, and have played more of that than I have on my 2nd prestige MW2 profile.
This game had a whole lot more atmosphere than Oblivion which I loved
Just wondering. I'm not trolling, people. It was a serious question, but I guess the disagrees means, "NO" huh?
You brought it up so are you asking for the ability to rearrange maps with no way for people to search for the finished product? And considering your post history your question was hardly honest.
...and what does my post history have to do with this? I'm not a specific console fanboy, I owe all three systems. What I am is an anti-idiot fanboy. If you're going to be stupid, I call you on it. I've said I'm getting Move and I'm getting Kinect. I'm screwed either way apparently! lol
No you need to call yourself on it. Go back and read your post in the manner in which other people would read it. You didn't ask if Killzone 3 would have a map editor. Think about how you asked what you did. And post history is everything. If you can't grasp that then calling someone a fanboy based on a single post would seem odd, would it not? No it is based on repetitious behavior. Do you establish the nature of an idiot fanboy with a single post? Be careful what you answer. Best leave that at rhetorical. I am a fanboy but then again unlike most I never deny it. Just as well expecting someone with a lopsided posting behavior to suddenly be seen as objective is asking a little much, wouldn't you agree? So post history is relevant. And the more recent the more relevant.
And so we are clear I own all 3 systems. And not just average versions either. But that doesn't mean I don 't have a distinct preference because I do indeed.
You can actually search for Forge maps through bungie.net http://www.bungie.net/onlin...
...over sensitive. Good luck with that.
I have the same question, why wouldn't people want a map editor? I do not see how that is trolling, other than mentioning halo on Killzone board which is a no-no apparently.
Hmm that's strange. I think you were the first person that didn't like being questioned. There is sensitivity mr touchy feely. And when you can't search for the maps from the game's menu then that = fail.
Translation: Forge or gtfo.
hrmmm sounds like hes trying to hide how delicious this game is
complete BS, wheres the theater, you can't make your own maps like forge, you can't make your own modes, where's the splitscreen, wheres the survivalish kind of horde mode co op. there's only a few new guns and the rest look the same like from KZ2. obviously I'm missing the value, the game seems average at best. I'm being critical here, graphics alone can't and won't make me hand over 60$, they have 50gb of blu ray space they can use and they aren't going for the full potential
Relax, darlin. It's only September. There is still a lot of time for announcements.
Well I would hope so. If they don't at least double the amount of weapons (real weapons, not mounted weapons like a turret or jetpack machine gun), then it isn't much of value as it claims to be. 1 shotgun, 2 assault rifles, 3 explosive propelled weapons, an sta14, a sub machine gun, 2 lmgs, a sniper rifle and two pistols aren't enough to cut it (in my opinion) these days. They need to double the amount of weapons (not mountable).
Theres still 6 months of development left, relax.
6 months is not enough time to add anything to a game 6 months gives you enough time to go through the game and squash as many bugs as possible but kz3 offering the most value of a game is a joke i dont see why he would say that maybe thats why the kz's are always subpar because the devs have their heads stuck up there ass's
do you think they would announce every thing about the game 6 months before its out ? even treyarch didn't announce "theater" 4-5 months ago..most devs like to announce things over time to help hype the game I'm sure there is still much more to learn about killzone 3 then we know now.you guys jump to conclusions too fast
about a game thats had very little announced of it so far. chill. + why theater and forge? he not once mentioned Halo, so why do you? maybe by the time the game is released, this statement might be true. theres no way to know.
He said no game would be offering the value of it, so of course forge is going to be brought up, it gives this game called Halo: Reach incredible "value."
All those things you mentioned are cherries. I like what I'm seeing with Killzone 3. Bigger scale, bigger environments. That's how a sequel should be not like Halo where every game is the same except they add more cherries.
"I like what I'm seeing with Killzone 3. Bigger scale, bigger environments. That's how a sequel should be not like Halo where every game is the same except they add more cherries." WHAT?! Halo reach's scale is HUGE. much bigger than halo 3 its one of the biggest additions to the game. get your facts right man. Im not bashing on Killzone at all as I love the games, even got the psp top down one, but dont say that halo doesnt do a ton for sequels and then claim Killzone does more cmon. You even mentioned features included in halo as well to try and say that halo makes crap sequels.
If KZ3 did have those things, a certain group of gamers would rip it for copying Halo. Personally, I don't need a theater or splitscreen. I wouldn't mind a survival mode and a map editor, but I also know very well that a map editor will be limited enough that there won't be many levels created that will be better than the ones made by pros. If it was a system like LBP has, that gives you the same level building tools as the devs, it would be more interesting. You feel KZ3 looks average. Many people, including me, feel the same about the Halo series, regardless of the extra features. To each his own. By the way, I put Killzone 2, Halo 3, CoD, MW, Resistance, and just about any other FPS you can name all together into one big generic pile. Some different features for each, but the gameplay is pretty much identical. BC2 is a little different, but not much. MAG is the only FPS I need, because it drops the player into a major battle instead of the minor skirmishes every other FPS offers, including BC2. I know I'm in the minority.
but I loved the first one (mp, didn't care that much for the single player). I just want the in-game music, it's the only game I can find with that feature.
Bring coop in the campaign and I'll agree with ya!
Are they joking ? I see only a rent in KZ3 myself and would trade 1000 games like that just toplay a bit of Fable 3, that is a real game and not some random boring shooter with not even a single mosnter to make it even remotly interesting
I disagree with your assumption that the career mode will only be 8 hours and linear as the devs have said it would be more open world and no one knows the length of the game yet. I also do not think monsters necessarily make a game more interesting. That said RPG's usually have a longer single player than many shooters on the market. I totally underhand someone wanting an RPG more than a shooter. That was part of the appeal of Borderlands for me. I like shooters and Diablo-esque RPG's. It was the best of both worlds.
Hell yeah. Borderlands is greatness. Can't wait for the new DLC.
Me either. September 28th can not come soon enough. Who's your main? I played through as Roland. Part of me wants to go through it again as Brick. I already have him up to a level 5 so I might as well.
Fable (after The Lost Chapters on the original Xbox) plays and looks shit. The game is 2 hours long if you ust play the story (not an exaggeraton I honestly finished it in 2 hours) and all the side missions are tap A to hammer this piece of metal or some fetch quest to go kill some beetles in someones basement. That game is terrible. Than you have the ordasity to bring up Fable 3 like that game will be miles better becaue PETER MOLYNEAUX said that they took out the menu system. I honestly haven't heard anything to make this game even compare to Demos Soul or the ORIGINAL Mass Effect. Leave the internet please...
You forgot to talk about how very very very easy that game was.
Im glad someone mentioned Borderlands, as I think that game has infinite replay value, best single player shooter campaign yet.
so his definition of "Value" is Move support, 3D, and SP and MP game modes? "Value" to me is content. for $20 bucks i got TF2 and 9 class updates and other content for free. seems more like "options" to me.
That most of you would be crying to the heaven's if that had come from the Microsoft camp. Hypocrite much?
.... But GT5 says hi! :D Which i think will over way more value :D :D
He obviously meant Demon's Souls ,.. like Portal 2 lead designer today,.. (go watch Interview on GT ,..at the end) Still cannot wait for KZ2 !!
Sorry, no talking about Halo in the Killzone. Seriously, no one cares. KZ3 is going to rock no matter what the naysayer think. Give it up.
Pretty sure he meant GT5. Either way, I fucking love Killzone. Still play the 2nd, can't wait to play the 3rd!
As much as I loved Killzone 2, even I have to admit that it didn`t exactly pack a tremendous value. Great campaign, great multiplayer, but I`ve played a lot of games that have a lot more value. I can`t wait to see how much awesome new stuff they give us for Killzone 3 :D
As said, definitely Reach and LBP2....I'm not saying GT5 mainly because I'm not a gamer who play racing games at all. The most I'll race is mongooses in Halo but then I get bored easily with it. Starcraft 2 has a ton of value too if you're into everything including ladder games, custom games, single player about 10-12 hours
Eh, I doubt it. More value than LBP2 will offer? No sir, you are strongly mistaken. Maybe he meant no other FPS? But even then, I doubt it. They've removed the server browser and custom matches, and it's 24 players instead of 32. Tbh, this game is quickly falling to the bottom of my list.
What we've seen so far from KZ3 can hardly best the content in Reach or GT5. It would take weeks to list all the content in GT5, to say kz3 has more value than that is a stretch without the features to support it
KZ3 is on a different level.i can't wait for this AAA game. :) the 1st few comments are utter mad to even mention Halo Reach.a KZ3 thread is no place for generic shooters.
One day it will make it to the big leagues....AAA is respectable though *quote came from watching baseball..it's on the mind...seriously kz3 is gonna be fun though
If you had another bubble, I'd ask you to elaborate on how Halo is generic. To me, it seems like a very creative and unique game with weapons and vehicles, both ground and air, that aren't found in other games. Onto Killzone 3, I can't wait for this game. Killzone 2 is the reason I bought a PS3, and it was worth it. The campaign for KZ2 is so much fun and is paced pretty well between run n gun shooting, cover shooting and then it's broken up nicely with the other various sections like the mech, tank and anti aircraft gunner.