Apple Declares War on Nintendo, Sony Over Video Games

Over the course of the past three years, Apple [AAPL 265.95 3.03 (+1.15%) ] has stumbled into a powerful position in the gaming world. The iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad were never designed as gaming platforms, but the app explosion that followed opened up the world of mobile gaming —and now the Cupertino-based company seems ready to capitalize on that.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

Apple is not a major player in the games industry. tell them to come back to gamers when they have computers/consoles/portable devices built for gaming, not portable devices that have no buttons for gaming, and have cheapo $2.00 games....

they may have the "most games" as they've said, but look at the games that are available there.

[iamnsuperman]

The might not have fully fledge $20-60 games but there games are good. Its great for unknown developers to get noticed.....The games are good and in my opinion are more beneficial for handheld games because they are cheep, addictive and can pass the time while you wait....Apple saw a hole and jumped in and no matter how many minis Sony launches they will not make a dent....Apple also have the advantage of their Iphone/touch being ipods also which means they will sell and then there apps will be bought.....Its bigger than you think

[Cevapi88]

if apple ever came out with a gaming system, it would cost $2000, be one of the most closed off systems out seeing as how apple is very protective of their tech....even so, it would get hacked/jailbroken just like all of their other products...and sadly it would actually sell just like the ipad did and that thing was being called a pc tablet...misinformed consumers, best way to become a millionaire

[-Alpha]

Sorry, but Apple's iphone is a gaming device to some extent. Just because it's not primarily a gaming device doesn't mean that the gaming division on the product should be ignored. It's a limited device with its lack of buttons, but just because people here may not like it doesn't mean that it doesn't count. People here don't even count the Wii as a console for this generation yet it clearly has great exclusive games of its own.

And though WE may not accept it, it's clear that there are people who play games on an iphone. Also, the media has openly reviewed iphone games and some have been critically acclaimed. It's not as recognized for its gaming, but it does exist as a medium with a decently supported library.

There are some good Iphone games that were later turned into PS Minis.

Touch screen may be limiting, but there are still some games worth checking out on the iphone.

[ChronoJoe]

Input restricts their games making them inferior, they might do well with some AAA RTS and RPGs though, but they don't have any decent titles like that, that I've seen.

[T9X69]

I agree with Cevapi88, Apple is very expensive. I could honestly see Apple pricing a Apple game console (assuming they make one) at no less than $1000. Sony can have some hefty prices sometimes (PS3 launch for example), but Apple takes the cake on that one. Hell one of the keys broke on my GF's Macbook and they wanted $20 just to fix ONE key. Imagine if their console broke, the would want 400-500 just to fix it.

[ReservoirDog316]

I said it before and I'll say it again. There's only one game that actually works perfectly (2D platformer) in the app store.

Only one, Soosiz. It's like Super Mario World mixed with Mario Galaxy. And the controls actually work*. Go try it, there's a demo.

Besides that though? Not very good. At all really. Just puzzle games that get old after 10 minutes. So I would think, from a quality standpoint, they lost this war if they continue this way.

But, I guess we'll just see.

edit: http://itunes.apple.com/us/...

Seriously, try it.

[Kaneda]

PS3 is open system? or Xbox?

[dredgewalker]

I game a little on my Ipod but it gets easily tiring. I mostly use it for net browsing, music and porn...its a good device for me but it seriously has issues as a gaming device. As long as there are issues with battery life, space limitations, no buttons, tremendous amount of shovelware and pricing......I won't ever consider Apple serious about gaming. Just leave gaming to the pros.

[UnSelf]

Apple will try and fail miserably

stick to what u do best Apple

[Cevapi88]

valve had to force apple's hand to do an upgrade when steam finally came to the mac...the games didnt play as well as they were supposed to be until it finally came out...i know that there is an article on here about that...plus when it comes to games/apps Apple is very strict about how what you do...so you can imagine how that would turn out if they came out with a system that had an online service....the PSN allows for freedom....XBL is much more closed off...the whole Gabe Newell fiasco confirms that

[pimpmaster]

the heading is wierd. why would sony be mentioned? the psp is a total flop at this point. 3ds right around the corner and sony hasnt announced anything. seriously, psp sits right next to the ngage and gizmondo.

[Cevapi88]

wait 60+ million units sold, and you call that a flop??....based on your dumbass logic that makes both the 360 and PS3 look like the ngage or gizmondo since neither has yet to outsell the PSP....

can you be any dumber...either that or you are a blind fanboy

[pimpmaster]

bububuu 60 million psps sold! bububuuu mgs peace walker! dude just shut up , you know the psp is extinct at this point with the only good games in the past 3 years being MGS and GOW. seriosly i dont care how many sonys sold, if it has no games, it has no games. the psp is the hd-dvd of the portable gaming world, it died out along time ago but only idiot fanboys like you are still not giving up hope. that reminds me.. umd anyone?

[Cevapi88]

bububbububububububububububu... .do you see how stupid that looks...and i dont own a psp...idk how you dont see that your logic can be used against you...you basically paralleled the psp with the 360, calling out the umd and saying it has no games...i think you need to shut up, or at least think of something smart to say...and its funny that you say that it has no games and is extinct when it also plays movies/music and has its own store for d/l games....

man you's a definite pimpmasta...you's amazin' and shit

[badz149]

M$ not a concern? you know, as m$ is in the business as well. or is this another case of American company vs Japan's? but let's be serious here. Apple making console? that thing will cost $1000 with subscription plan + monthly cap!

[nveenio]

Every single game on the iPhone/iPad/iPod platform is casual. Every single one of them. There is not a single hardcore game out there--no matter how much they resemble Halo or God of War. The platform just doesn't support a "deep" experience.

[pimpmaster]

@Cevapi88 ok ...so you dont have a psp, but, you just feel like strongly defending a sony console for some reason...why do i even bother

[Hideo_Kojima]

The Helghast's face has more polygons than all of the polygons in all of the gamers in the App Store...

Apple get back to us hardcore gamers when you have a real console.

[mastiffchild]

Meh, wake me up when their games on their machines don't control like crap or leave my thumbs in the way of the action. You don't even a gaming platform yet Apple so sod off. Don't let me start on their pricing or the relative performance of their's and their competitor's(in EVERY department)tech or the value inherent in either. Bloody con artists have fooled the world with clever marketing and design over content and utility. All fur coat and no panties.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

The portable devices market seems to have an anti-Microshaft force field.

I can see Steve 'The Master Thief' Ballmer turning dark green with envy and jealous rage!

Bwahahahahaha!

BTW the Samsung Galaxy S family of smatphones powered by Google Android 2.2 Froyo will knock Apple down from the top spot. I can see it coming! Cant wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab.

But still I am an admirer of Steve Jobs. He is my American Idol. I love what he did to Pixar.

Also I don't mind only a few of us elite gamers including the Japs, enjoy our unpopular PSP games. It give us a sense of being special and uniqueness.

Heh even the 360 can only dream of 60 million units lifetime.

[hoops]

Win Mobile 7 gaming soultion is far better than Apple.
And if Apple has anything to worry about it should be MS in phone mobile gming when Win Mobile 7 hits in one month.
It has full XBL intergration. Cross platform gaming (something Android, Apple does not have or will have anytime soon) Achievements, Avatars. The very same game developers making all those games for Apple (and i am not talking about farting games) are making them for Win Mobile 7.
The emtire Xbox gaming community is looking at this and its getting postive previews.
MS doe snot make the hardware...other companies do so you are not locked in to ONE type of hardware.
The hardware for the phone also ha MINIMUM requirements so its not fragmented.
Apple not only has Androind to worry about and SOny and Nintendo, they have MS also.

[Nevers]

I'm rather looking forward to Windows Phone 7. I haven't found a cell phone game yet that I'd play for any length of time... until I checked out that booth.

[Soldierone]

APPS ARE NOT GAMES. Should I say more? They are counting non-games as game sales, of course thats gonna make bigger numbers. Its like having no laws on retail stores, so Walmart goes out and sells everything for a dollar. Sure its crappy, but WTH its just a dollar, so why not buy it?

Apple whens the last time a game was built for a mac, not PC, and not ported over months later because your computers lack the requirments to be decent to begin with? Yeah thats really competing. Cant wait to see their "console". Apple Station! *month later* Apple Station Nano! *two weeks later* Apple Station Nano 2.0 etc...

[gamerzBEreal17]

How about nintendo, sony declare war on the fact that on almost everyone one of there now "leagally" jailbroken idevices you can play PSX games and N64/NES/SNES Games..

[Nevers]

$PARTA!!!!

[DevastationEve]

Apple has realy only one thing going for it and that's they seem to be the best at setting trends. It's quite a streak of fortune really that they've been able to launch phones laptops and mp3 players that have sold remarkably well and have been well reviewed. They make everything uniform, that's what they're good at. Which could suit the console world if only they'd pick a side already.

My guess is that they really don't know which side to pick, whether to build an all out elite gaming machine or just an affordable mainstream console. And even still, their success won't be gauranteed. They're gonna need something revolutionary, like how Xbox Live has been so far this gen.

[madpuppy]

HAHAHA!!! Steve Jobs is such an arrogant jerk. doesn't he realize that you need decent, powerful hardware to compete with the Likes of Sony, and classic franchises to compete with Nintendo? even with the blindly foolish Apple faithful I think that they are really going to have to make systems that ARE actually powerful and not just flashy.

[Titanz]

Believe it or not, they're the new kids on the gaming block.

[MechaZain]

I don't consider Apple in the game (no pun intended) until they release hardware made specifically for playing games.

[wicko]

I wouldn't touch their products even if they did do that.

[Beahmscream]

Lolapple

[Stealth20k]

Apple devices arent gaming handhelds. And apple completely made up the numbers that they are the leader in portables....please....

[RememberThe357]

This isn't some random company, we're talking about the most popular electronics company in the world. Frankly I don't like their products and I don't want to see them enter a market that they will dilute.

[Apotheosize]

So next gen we'll get Apples iConsole? Comes with a controller with ONE BUTTON

[SaiyanFury]

Yep, they continue to innovate in the field of laptops too. I have no doubt a wonderful console from Apple will hit the market. Apple rocks........ sorry, I couldn't finish that sentence. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[dredgewalker]

Better yet they're gonna release a console with scroll wheel controller. They're gonna market it as the greatest console ever cause Steve Jobs said so.

[Sarick]

Apprently not..

http://n4g.com/news/601423/...

Then again this news isn't gaming related.

[Lazy_Gamer]

They've been talking alot about the gaming industry. I wonder if that means that their planning to release a brand new currwent gen console. and if so how much would it cost? A $400 iplay anyone?

[peyote]

omfg can't wait for the apple fanboys. The most rabbidly deluded cultists of the lot.

"And Epic Games, makers of the “Gears of War” and “Unreal” franchises, showed off a title code-named “Project Sword” Wednesday. Both games are approaching graphically parity with today’s console titles."

1. utter bollocks.
2. anyone remember how their last 'war' on game consoles went? lol

[Da One]

Nintendo and Sony, they should make a dedicated gaming platform.

[Sarick]

I wonder why they didn't declare war on MS. Wait, they already did. (I'm, A PC - I'm a Mac) ^.~..

I supposed Zune doesn't count though.

[pixelsword]

Talk to me when you can right-click with your mice out of the box, Apple.

[xCaptainAmazing]

You can you retard. LOL you don't know you can and have been able to right click on mac out of the box for the last 15 years...

[pixelsword]

1. Apples come with no right-clicking mice out of the box, so I guess understanding what you read isn't your strong point: which begs the queston: sho's the actual retard? (hint: you)

2. You're right; overall I don't know and I don't care because Apples suck wing-wang. Apple users are self-deluded into thinking they have a better product when 99.999% of them can't upgrade their hard drive without customer service.

[hoops]

100% AGREE DUDE.

[MacGamer]

I hate where these phones are going with their gaming ideas...

So many apple fan boys are going to be in love with this article, but at the end of the day these phones were not designed for games.

[skyblue14213]

because when apple cellphone users realize what they have been missing with good games from apples competitors, that they will eventually probably think to themselves " why did I ever waste my money on apple's shovel-ware, when there is clearly superior games from their competitors". At that point most apple users that like playing video games will get a video game console from one of apple's competitors effectively marketing real video games to a larger demographic without apple's competitors lifting a finger except for doing what they have always been doing. Of course some apple video game users will put the blinders on and the denial cap on.

[Stealth20k]

iproducts arent gaming devices end of story.

[xCaptainAmazing]

tell that to the wealth of incredible developer support that think it's awesome.

[ForROME]

Apple will enter the gaming race, I think in 2013 or so, after all they are a hardware maker before anything, their issue will be, no internal studios, and lining up 3rd party support

[Tron_Rocks]

Even if they did come out with a system I doubt they would get the developer support that the 360/Ps3 enjoys. They overprice there hardware, and force you to buy from them.

Jobs, your statements makes you a joke.

[SSKILLZ]

are u serious , to jump in with the game console titans you got to be one!

i have a ipod touch 3G and yeah its fun and all, but still it has nothing on the PsP and Nintendo DS.

as far as console making.... it better be some thing superior than the ps3 if not then gtfo.

and apple fanboys my droid 2 says hi.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Just one generation ago MS was new to console gaming. They're doing pretty well now, don't you think?

[xCaptainAmazing]

Completely agree. Apple could potentially crush all competition (in North America, anyways) if they released a device right now. These guys are on FIRE.

[telekineticmantis]

I wouldn't be surprised if apple takes over as far as sales goes over Nintendo & Sony.

[schlanz]

I keep seeing these articles pop up. Apple is a joke when it comes to games. Call me when they have a dedicated gaming platform. Until then, haha.

[niceguyWii3]

Apple? So a $1000 Pippin 2.0? Pass.

[Fadetoblack69]

Didn't even bother reading the article. Looked at the title and laughed to myself.

[Jrome]

iLaughed.

[dredgewalker]

iFaceplamed when I also looked at the title.

[gamingisnotacrime]

devices that plays games as an extra function are by no means in the same league as what the big three offer.

[zak94ma]

that's the funniest thing i hear in a while , get back apple you got no place in the industry just you have an over priced gizmo's with a lot of cheap games download doesn't mean you can get into the game baby . thats why i hate apple they are nothing but a bunch of sucker an item like ipad worth 250 $ they sell it with 500 $ price how you don't hate them
not like our lovable Sony sell there consoles with big loses just to see us happy

[xCaptainAmazing]

"not like our lovable Sony sell there consoles with big loses just to see us happy"

you know if they keep doing that, their gaming division would go bankrupt. are you insane?

[zak94ma]

well that in the past now things changed you know . i hope you got the point . i was trying to tell the deference between greedy bastards like apple and the giant Sony .

[xCaptainAmazing]

to rebut all the idiot apple comments, and add a few of my own:

1. YOU CAN RIGHT CLICK ON A MAC, I HAVE ONE, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOR YEARS. YOU CLICK THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE MOUSE.
2. A console from apple would be competitively priced (does not mean exactly equal).
3. They have great developer support, with Steam now on the Mac, and tons of developers working on apps.
3. Possibly the greatest consumer hardware/software developer in the world.
4. Have one of the best digital media solutions.
5. Have enormous community respect/fanbase.
6. Arguably some of the best marketing.
7. have the most popular device line-up.
8. Yeah the Pippin, whatever, this is when they were less popular. they are not the company they used to be, they're fantastic now and have now passed nearly every company they've come up against in every way. if they came out with a dedicated gaming device now, it would be a hit (if it walked the walk as well).

watch out for the Apple iGame, or iPlay. serious. the biggest hurdles they would have (as mentioned above) are rallying a crap load of developers to their cause. The way things are going though, and with Steam, they could do it easy.

[zak94ma]

"3.They have great developer support, with Steam now on the Mac, and tons of developers working on apps. " do you know how much and how ppl needed to develop a game these days ! and one thing steam is for PC not mac .
"5. Have enormous community respect/fanbase. " i don't think they will buy a 1000$ console even if it get holographic show option .
"6. Arguably some of the best marketing. " no the community how advertise there gadgets , apple are bunch of losers
"7. have the most popular device line-up. " how much devices just 3 .
Apple wouldn't survive a single day with hardcore games , casual games they got there piece of cake and that's it .

[gcolley]

a fanboy is a fanboy

right click on a macbook? most people have macbooks, can you right click with a macbook trackpad? i can't

a console from apple is not wanted, they have never cared about gaming, in fact quite the opposite

very little developer support compared to PC and less so with consoles

not the greatest just cater to image obsessed

and so on

now go try replace a part on your macbook and tell me why it costs 10x what it actually should. get a quote on the dvd drive, logic board (with and without water damage) and screen without having a heart attack. the logic board is an interesting conversation in itself as it costs more to replace a water damaged board than one that is repairable, yet they only swap it for a reconditioned one (someone else's) either way. it is because they can reuse yours for someone else.

they are the same company they have always been... EVIL

when this idiotic world gets over it's self obsession, apple will go back to being a quirky niche brand and we won't have to hear about people who refer to their phones as iphones. just getting my e52

[Odin777]

Apple will never defeat the 3DS, come on now.

[CaptainPunch]

Apple can suck it, the app store doesn't count as video games.

[FF7numbaone]

Apple sucks......Droid!

[hikayu]

And I refuse to take them serious until they add analogs and physical buttons . these touch screen sucks for serious , traditional game that we all love . it's pretty good for RTS and strategy games , but it sucks at everything else . the iphone/itouch sceens are small already , 2 thumbs on it doesnt help one bit .

[ballsofsteel]

2 completely different markets. apple is going off the extremely casuals pick up and play bit sized games essentially flash games on PC but now portable. the DS and PSP fall into the the established standards of games the aren't just tiny, play for a few minutes games. each play video games but comparing the games and markets head to head is stupid as hell it's like comparing the wii and the PS3/360; each cater to completely different people with very different needs

[kerrak]

Cant wait for iKratos, iHalo and iMario

[matey]

Yes Apple are so good they were on watchdog last night for having cartooney games that have kids buying shells for £59.99 a go the kid racked up a £240 plus bill on his dads account and the game was the worst cheapy game ive ever seen and it had DLC that with a click of a button has spending £60 Apple have messed up big time Apps/Games are a rip off on the service full stop 3DS/DS are amazing value when u see cheap boring uninspired games like that Iphone game wow and Apple say its war with Nintendo grow up show some respect to to innovators/leaders of our game industry very arragant of Apple very arragant indeed Apple have done no more than what mobile phones have been doing for 10 years.

[iamnsuperman]

In my opinion the iphone is the best hand held for one simple reason its doesn't just play games....Sony and Nintendo are living in a by gone era where buying an expensive hand held was great....The iphone is by no means cheap but its a phone, ipod as well......Nintendo might have a 3ds on the way but consumers know are spending more of the smart phones because it can do more than be a phone (go on the internet, play music well, have applications)......The problem for Sony and Nintendo is they have left it too late to jump on the band wagon.....Gamers might buy their products but the average consumer will not care

[matey]

Try because Nintendo make and have always made DEDICATED GAMING DEVICES iphone is a media player ie why it costs £400 DS=£100 3DS=£200 and when 3DS hits at a fraction of the price of iphone with 3D apps like Movies/Comics/BBC i-player,Real 3D games not app games/Skype in 3D/Advanced Browser ect its all over i mean Nintendo will own the World

[skyblue14213]

Though apple could blossom like sony did with the ps1, but I seriously doubt it. It is a lot tougher making a mark in the gaming industry now than it was back then, though it was a lot harder in appealing to the masses back then than it is now, though video games were great back then and there were less restrictions in general back then than their is now. And if apple thinks that they are going to make any dent(except in their own wallets) in the gaming industry with the type of games that they are peddling now, they better think twice. Because if they think they are going to compete in the big leagues with the juggernauts, with the stuff that they are churning out now they will get squashed like a bug and smeared across the floor in no time.

Word of advice apple: We gamers are a different breed than the "casual" casual cellphone gamers that you market to, and if you expect us to pay any attention to you or your products, you have to produce good quality games and not the shovel-ware that you are peddling now or you will be in for a rude awakening. Games don't have to have the best graphics to date to be good, they just have to be good, fun, and interesting, with a high degree of quality(and I am not referring to graphics).

Though I do encourage apple to know the ropes before considering being a serious competitor in the industry. And when and if they finally get serious about it I will be interested in what they have to offer.

[ozstar]

Well the positive news to take away from this is that, while I haven't bought NTDOY shares yet, and all this paranoia in Bloomberg, WSJ and CNBC is bound to scare off punters, I will likely get a decent low 30's price on the shares.

Investors are so easily intimidated!

[frankymv]

apple games are quite good. Many are not as deep as PSP games, but certainly DS games. Thus will change very soon though as apple has a bunch of great games coming including titles from Epic Games and iD.

[frankymv]

no matter how you spin it, Apple has become a serious competitor in the handheld space.

[peyote]

not a competitor, they are doing something completely different i.e. dinky 5 minute attention span gimmick apps. If that floats your boat fine, but you look stupid comparing them to what dedicated handhelds offer.

[frankymv]

ok, you're right. Not a competitor.

Sony and Nintdendo are not worried at all regardless of staggering sales numbers for apple games.

Ignorance is bliss....keep smoking the peyote.

[peyote]

Well, first you don't smoke peyote.

Second, no, they're probably not, because they're not selling dinky apps. Like I said. I guess it's too much to expect someone to actually read a comment before replying.

[Akagi]

As always, Apple thinks quantity is better than quality. LOL apple, u so crazy.

[CBaoth]

who knew one only had to utter 1 word to unite all tech fanboys under the war banner? APPLE. Some of the dumbest posts I may have ever read on N4G all in one article for easy reference.

"Steve Jobs is a moron, a joke." Yeeeaah. A guy who transformed a bankrupt company into a billion dollar corporation is dumb. Ok, whatever you say my good man.

"Tell me when they have a dedicated gaming platform." Yeah that's what Sony and MS have been doing with their consoles of late huh? Web browser, playing music, movies, social apps, etc....Yeah all of that s h it really pertains to games. Gotta love the logic there.

"They've never tried to get into gaming before." I recollect at least 2 times off my head that Apple tried. Back in the 80's they were the de facto company for PC gaming. IBM was for business apps. But this one guy, Billy, who used to be an employee of Mr. Jobs, stole and reverse engineered some code to work on all other non-Apple machines put a stop to that. And the 2nd time, the same guy, Billy, swooped in and bought some little company named Bungie and stole their thunder. Guess some of you weren't born yet?

"Their games aren't really games." Best one yet. Question: what is a game then? When you figure that one out, you might not be so quick to dismiss it. Guess epic and id aren't game software companies either then?

Fact is Apple has ALWAYS been about the casual user. To most non-techies they're the embodiment of simplicity. Do any of their products push the envelope? NO. They simply provide a comparable device to most existing machines without the hassle. But I guess Mom, Dad, the cop, and the guy in a suit and tie on Wall Street aren't allowed to enjoy the same entertainment we're afforded on a daily basis!

Kudos to Apple for implementing Achievements/Trophies in mobile gaming. Maybe Sony will finally get off their asses and give me what I've asked for since Trophies went live. Hey Mr. Stringer, whatever happened to this corporate synergy you blabbed on and on about?

Kudos to Apple for dragging mobile gaming into the 21st century; evidently kicking and screaming to most here. Yeah I know, I used to own an Apple IIe (back around '85-'88). I must be an Apple fanboy!

[peyote]

"kudos for apple to draging mobile gaming into the 21st century"
lol. holy S##t how deluded do you have to be to actually type that?

Thanks for the laugh though, I enjoyed your post very much.

[CBaoth]

I especially loved the typical straw man fallacy rebut employed by so many prepubescent posters here @ N4G too. keep up the good work!

[peyote]

Do you know what 'straw man argument' actually means? Hint: not me directly quoting something that you said to highlight how ridiculous it is.

[Tron_Rocks]

"Steve Jobs is a moron, a joke." Yeeeaah. A guy who transformed a bankrupt company into a billion dollar corporation is dumb. Ok, whatever you say my good man.
???
RRRIIIGHHHTTT! man you need to get a clue

He is EGO MANIAC and if Bill Gates had not bought 10million in shares in Apple it would have been done.

Fact is APPLE is about the casual gamer as they are a great pain in the butt for devs to work with as they want to control every aspect.

You need to get a clue, the GBA has better games than the IPHONE for the overwhelming amount of shovelware for the ipad/iphone

[spooky205]

However your post is quite true nonetheless. My critcisms for apple as a gaming device are not void of validity either. You see the iphone fails as a gaming device. Sure it has a few good games (most of them are actually flash games you could play for free on your pc.) However it lacks a big factor. Controls. Without buttons you are forced to use a significant amount of screen space to play a game. You could never play a game like MGS: PW, Ghost of Sparta, contra 4, or pretty much anything that requires buttons effectively. Seriously, do you really consider a port of streetfighter 4 for the iphone good? Its completely broken. It runs ok but it plays like crap. These games were designed as time wasters. Its only something you dick around with not really a memorable gaming experience like you would on a dedicated device.

To which i say to you. Iphone= media device with tacked on gaming.
DS/PSP= gaming device with tacked on media capabilities.
We have yet to see a device that does both well. I seriously doubt many people bought their iphone or itouch with deliberate intent on using it as a primary gaming device before anything else it has to offer. I love video games. I will buy any POS console if it has the games i want to play on it. Apple loves to play sales. Gamers love to play games. I am not impressed by apples profit margins. If apple wants to impress me then it should get better content and controls.

[Bolts]

Did someone mentioned Apple and games in the same sentence? LOL!! Apple sucks at games, get a Mac and see for yourself. They have a lot of mobile games on their iphones but most of those games are crap. Nobody game with their iphone. Just like how house wives playing Farm Ville are not "gamers" iphone users playing games on their iphone are not gamers either.

[Prcko]

we want more!!!!!
will,ps3,xbox360,gief Iconsole!!!

[Trunkz]

I buy a game for $1-5 dollars, I play it for maybe a few hours and never touch it again. I can pay $30 for a DS game and it can last me 1 month to many months. I'd rather pay $40 for a quality game like FF6 Remake for a 3DS then 40 $1 games.

[theonlylolking]

"Epic Games, makers of the “Gears of War” and “Unreal” franchises, showed off a title code-named “Project Sword” Wednesday. Both games are approaching graphically parity with today’s console titles."

LOL are they talking about approaching wii graphical parity?

[spektical]

@ alpha male

Iphone is not a gaming platform to any extent... games just came out of the fact that some people absolutely need something to do while they wait.

I have no clue how a gaming console would survive with $2.00 games... especially ones that have so many elements missing that make a video game. Replayablitiy may be high on a handheld.. but dont mistake that you'll recieve same extent of content on a console. THe numbers just dont match. Talking about 300mb small apps to full fledge video games over 4G of content.

Apple is not going to dominate any gaming business.. unless of course they brainwash everyone into thinking small apps are games worth paying $60.

[Shrinkwrap]

I would not mind is Sony made a PS3 tablet, Take my games and PS3 capabilities with me. Check my friends,web surf and every thing else other tablets do.

[SpinalRemains138]

I can't play Demon's Souls on an "i" anything. Next.

[FinalomegaS]

But I think until Apple really steps into the gaming ring with games that cost as much to produce and sell as the counter part then it will be just that.

iApple vs Oranges

Consoles & handles are more of the main course, APple apps with games are more of the appetizer.

You can eat both but we know why you go to the the restaurant, not for that 5$ appetizer but the main course.

Until Apple takes off the gloves and gets serious and stop trying to worm their way into the Big market then they will not be counted as a serious "player". Even NPD doesn't really put them their.

I am not a fan of the apple system but maybe a 4th player might help the gaming industry. I say might.... Maybe they might bring one or two innovations that the others could use.