Could PS3 Hacking Cause More Frequent Firmware Updates?

Loot Ninja writes:

"Look, we all hate Sony’s firmware updates. They take forever to download and install and they happen way too often. I have friends (<cough> Scuba </cough>) who haven’t been online on the PSN for over 4 months because they don’t feel like updating the firmware every time they turn on their PS3. While the update frequency has slowed a bit, I have a feeling it’s about to pick up, full speed ahead. Those damn pesky hackers are to blame."

[Anton Chigurh]

It's cat and mouse fight and in the End no body wins.I think, they should Ban the Pirates before the holiday season to increase the hardware sales just like what M$ is doing every Fu(king Year.

[Eamon]

The difference is that with MS, people are paying for XBL.

As for PSN. You don't pay for it. So, I wonder if pirates will still want to go online. And apparently there are proxies out that can enable you to go online with an old firmware, so maybe this could also avoid banning too?

But if Sony does start banning, it won't be till there is a significant amount in which they will start banning in waves.

[raztad]

"So, I wonder if pirates will still want to go online"

You even can read people saying they will get a second PS3 in order to go online and keep the other at fw 3.41. So I would say YES, to that question. Unless of course we are talking about xbox owners that already pay for Live and want to play PS3 games for free.

Either way, it doesnt matter. Most incoming PS3 games probably will be requiring fw 3.42+.

[WildArmed]

'The difference is that with MS, people are paying for XBL.
As for PSN. You don't pay for it. So, I wonder if pirates will still want to go online. '

I'm sorry, but that made no sense to me.
Pirates still like MP -- hence soo many private CoD4 servers are available on PC-- believe it or not.

And honestly, I have no problems w/ fw updates.
They take me about 10mins to d/l n install em.
I mean if fw updates are stopping you from getting online, I find that pretty depressing lol

It's not like they are charging u to update your ps3 (neither does MS or Nintendo). So when you are not on ur ps3, i don't see ANY reason why you wouldn't want to update.

Oh, and trust me, Sony doesn't like doing fw updates as much as we like d/ling them.
They use a lot of resources to make this happen.

[LOOK_AT_THIS_I]

Im not sure why people bitch about something that usually adds features, cleans things up, and most of the time makes things better overall for the users experience.

are that many of you so ADHD that updates are really an issue. step outside, open a window and get some air. unless you are stealing your internet from a neighbor most updates take less than 10 minutes to d/l and install.

if you want to complain about something complain about downloading a game from the psn store and after you download one that has been out for a year or more, you still have to download multiple patches for the game to be able to run. (hate itunes with a passion, but at least when I download an app it is current and up to date)

^BRING THIS UP TO SONY IF YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING LEGIT^

[BeeAreWhyAyeEn]

Who the hell in their right mind would freak out over getting some extra time to go grab some snacks, or throw a DiGiorno in the oven and grab a drink? Haha, If firmware updates took more than 28 minutes (Pizza Time) then we would have something to complain about.

[kevnb]

i wouldnt accept it at all for any other device I own. Theres always a chance of bricking the console because there is no way to recover from a bad flash...

[badz149]

"They take forever to download and install" - it's time to upgrade you internet dude! I'm on a 1MBps connection (slow, I know) but FW updates never took me too long. just enough time for me to make coffee and some snacks and walla...it's done!

[ArcFatalix]

updates are smaller now, due to a previous firmware update before the hack.

This hack is useless usb exploit not even a proper hack. Sony is laughing at all you guys right now. exploiting debug mode lmao

[drunkpandas]

They aren't smaller as of yet. Version 3.42 was still a full size download. It's theoretically possible for them to make the updates smaller, but they have not implemented that system in production PS3 environments as of yet.

[Karooo]

"Firmware 3.41 was an empty update for the most part, with the only true contribution being the PlayStation Store recommendation option, but behind the scenes Sony did make a new, minor enhancement to the system and this new feature will make downloading future firmware updates quicker and they'll be smaller in size than previous updates.

Hidden away in the firmware update, Sony put a new incremental download patch in place, though the PS3 has always had this type of feature, this new incremental feature will now allow for smaller downloads. Previously, all firmware updates were incremental and they built off each other since the original firmware, but Sony has revised that concept and firmware updates will now only download what is needed from the latest firmware opposed to downloading the entire firmware. Firmware 3.41 only needed around 40MB of information, so the system only downloaded that much, opposed to 200MB of additional information from previous firmwares.

This will allow for smaller updates, faster downloads, and PlayStation Plus subscribers an easier time with auto-downloads. It may not change much in your system functions, but it'll make updating your system an easier process as you'll be downloading less files."

[comp_ali]

you do relize there is a proxy tools to bypass the update
I bet the pirates are laughing at you now for your ignorance.

[Karooo]

it was blocked and this will be blocked too

[KingKionic]

The bypass that there using hasn't been blocked for over a year now .

[Anton Chigurh]

Not to mention that there is a program called PSN downloader which will help the pirates to download updates , free DLCS and then transfer it to the PS3.

[BeeAreWhyAyeEn]

the pirates are probably scared sh!tless at the moment, with all these USB-Hack devices out and now blocked (kinda), I think sony will be finding and banning/force updating, all ps3's behind a certain firmware updates, if you're still running off 2.70 and signing onto PSN then there has got to be a way to find out who you are and fix it, not a doubt in my mind.

[Prcko]

yep,that's for sure!

[NYC_Gamer]

the game of cat&mouse...expect alot of updates

[fiercescuba]

As long as Sony stays one step ahead, this should not be too much of a disaster. However, hackers always find a way to crack into something.

[mattygamefreak]

Don't care. Pirates can have fun downloading their 40GB games while all I do is download a tiny firmware update that takes 2 minutes.

[BeeAreWhyAyeEn]

Well said man.

[Lirky]

Maybe so till sony releases all ps3s can play ps2 games, if they dont im sure more hacks will develope.

[sayonara89]

2 min to download and another 2 to install (on my slow 4mb connection), don't look like "forever" to me.

[PAPERCHASER0396]

The author of this article is full of shit slow? I wonder what he's using ? An electrified squirrel in a cage? As for updates fine .. If someone breaks into your house you change the locks right? Or install an alarm or cameras right ? Same fuckn principle right? These crap misleading articles need to be removed and I know opinions are like assholes everyone has one but some of these guys have theirs in the wrong spot which is their mouth

[BeeAreWhyAyeEn]

AND THE WINNER OF THE BEST COMMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD IS!

PAPERCHASER0396!
With his wonderful comment on frequent firmware updates,

"BULL
The author of this article is full of shit slow? I wonder what he's using ? An electrified squirrel in a cage? As for updates fine .. If someone breaks into your house you change the locks right? Or install an alarm or cameras right ? Same fuckn principle right? These crap misleading articles need to be removed and I know opinions are like assholes everyone has one but some of these guys have theirs in the wrong spot which is their mouth."

[tatotiburon]

it will be the neverending story, first sony will launch a firmware update then the hackers will update the psj to work with this new firmware and then sony will again launch a firmware update and then the hacker repeat the work etc, etc, etc....like psp every update will be hacked, sony you lost against the hackers and nothing can't change that fact.

Only ban waves can apart people from psj.

[Karooo]

PSP hack is different, this is an usb exploit much like JTAG debug mode one which was fixed.

[kevnb]

but microsoft has much better security on the xbox 360 itself, it can actually kill parts of the hardware. Only thing microsoft cant stop is the hacking of the dvd drives, which they have made much harder over time.

[KingKionic]

They didn't lose yet,but i do agree that the psj cant just go away by just security update .

But the jailbreak is still usable via bypass . But future updates cant be used with jailbreak .

I doubt most ps3 users will stay on one firmware . So i think sony is succeeding at slowing the pirating down .

[JBroken]

What good will it do when the pirates aren't downloading the firmware anyway?

[PopEmUp]

they don't want to play online games anymore

[BeeAreWhyAyeEn]

They can still use PSN, they found out how to use firmware 2.70 back when they wanted to run the "OtherOS" feature after it was patched, now about every hacker on the planet with a PS3 is going to want that bypass.

All in all, playing games on PSN without being on current firmware is absolutely possible.

[theonlylolking]

Depends how successful hackers are.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

I mean,if they free up more of the ps3 OS ram footprint?it would probably crash the console,I just know theres going to be a huge update before GT5 to lower the OS footprint.the PSP was maxed from 120mhz to 333mhz clock speed etc long ago.I bet these guys,without a type of future downgrader are fighting a losing battle.sorry pirates,but Sony gave you a big FuckU,I say the same

[kevnb]

like thats going to stop them... just look at the wii.

[Panzerkanzler]

I view anyone who truly feels the firmware updates are chores as full blown retards. Be glad, you ungrateful worms, that Sony releases updates for our console.

[kevnb]

if there was a firmware update all the time for anything on my computer, i would be pissed. Whatever happened to regular software updates?

[mushroomwig]

'Look, we all hate Sony’s firmware updates. They take forever to download and install and they happen way too often.'

Speak for yourself, not for the rest of us. I don't hate free firmware updates, they don't take forever and they don't exactly happen way too often, there are been 4-5 updates all year so how is that "way too often"?

[kevnb]

that is completely ludicrous, esepcially with no way of recovering from a bad flash.

[gypsygib]

Sony should incorporate into the updates a code that YLOD any console that's been hacked. Filter the poison out of the pool; it's a lot cheaper to buy games than to buy a new $300 console every few months.

[HeartDisease]

very interested to see if sony can actually fix this debug exploit or if they are simply changing hexdecimal offsets to force hackers to find them again. not that it takes long for the hackers to do. but if you are forcing hackers, and the people using their jailbreak, to update thier apps daily then you certainly slow them down.

also sony should have developers "pad" the blueray disks with misc crap data to max them to 50GB. if someones going to pirate a game at least make them take a week to DL it and require them to set aside 50GB of harddrive space. for example if a game only requires 5 gigs of space, spread it out over 50 with alot of fluff. when pirates start needing multiple terabyte drives to support their habit, buying games looks like a better option.

i guess we will know if its been fixed or simply patched soon enough.

[divideby0]

could articles be getting any more terrible than this one

[AnnaDea]

The hack for the FW 3.42 is coming next week according to the Jailbreak founders.

[raztad]

GeoHot said something similar when his hack was rendered worthless. Some got tired of waiting tho.

[AnnaDea]

Well the difference is that they're starting to chip the dongle next week and releasing backup manager 1.1, and clearly they want it to be available to all PS3 users.

Wait and see to what will happen next week.

[SuperbVillain]

this guy must have slow internet my updates take a couple of minutes