Take a look at some of the comments made in regards to the IGN feature about Sony and there various troubles. Click the link to see just a handful of mails sent to IGN....
Now that's the Truth it appears if people are starting to get sane slowly
I found it to be a very interesting read
My thoughts are getting tired of waiting, and tired of hearing nothing new that's good. I've been waiting for the PS3 for a few years now ever since they announced it was in development. I have talked great things about it even though I can't see it or hold it, I have bashed the other systems just to help make it sound better. The sad thing is I'm tired so very tired of getting nothing for this loyalty to a system that seems to be losing not only it's footing but the very ground it's stumbbling on. I'm a PS Fan and I have had both ps1 and ps2 I wanted a ps3 so bad I could taste it. I have been wanting to wait for the release to see if I should get it or not but as of lately I have been swaying to get a dare I say 360. I'm tired of my ps2 and I see so many new games coming out soon and I hate that fact that I can't wait a few more months but Sony is pissing me off. I'm sick of them telling us stuff and then seeing something else. It's like there are telling us believe what we show not what we say. I have many friends with 360's and I hate that I can't join in the fun with them and play games with them, the PS3 Price well has been one of my biggest concerens and the fact that they keep losing developers or games are getting put on the back burn. Online play is attracting me to the 360 even with the $50 a year service even if the ps3 is supposed to be almost free. What to do what to do, I want the ps3 for it's Final Fantasy and MGS games but the 360 has many games that look fun and they seem to be getting many of the PS's excluisvie titles. Assasins Creed is coming out for it even I must admit I wanted the PS3 for this game too. Sony is D!cking around and it's getting old I will decide soon but I just felt like saying that sony is starting to lose another fanboy and it's because of their BS and Wasting my time. End
What do u guys think the Console War numbers will look like in two years? I say 60/40/20 S/MS/N
You are where I was a few months ago. I was a hardcore Sony fan. I never even played the first XBox. I decided to dive the 360 a shot and I don't regret it. I invite everyone to try it on their own; specially XBox live. I may still buy a PS3 since I am a Metal Gear fan, but my XBox 360 already earned its spot on my living room. I can only hope that the PS3 online service and games are as good as the 360.
60/40/20 adds up to 120%.
First let me say I am not rich, I am middle class. Playstation 3 is exspensive to me! My car note and insurance total $650 a month, I dont the choose to buy one lightly. What Sony reps say about "percieved value" does not get enough credit! Just look at the I-Pod; I think everyone knows there are better (MUCH LESS EXSPENSIVE)mp3 players on the market, but people still shell out $400 bucks for it. WHY? Because they value the style, the status that comes with it. Lexus runs a billboard here(Houston) for the ls series sedan with a tagline that reads "A Strong Want is a Justifiable Need". Why? Because everyone knows that when you want something bad enough money, nothing else matters! I wasnt that big on games, I most certainly would be considered casual by anyone here on this site, but I see value in the PS3! I have PS2(since release) and have never had trouble with it. The image quality on it is better than my compomnent dvd players(thats impressive). Its been a wonderful product. As everyone knows PS3 will include Blue-Ray. Dont right this off as small potatoes. My PSP I use faithfully, but not mostly for games, but music, pictures, and movies(UMD is wonderful, the image is astounding! Anyone who doesnt think so has never looked at one in play. The PSP struggles because the machine was built to be multi-media but was not properly marketed as such. Sony left avertising up to the children who adopted the format early,but did very little to inform the public themselves. This is why they are pushing the PS3 as a computer so that this does not happen again. So that people understand what they are getting for $600 dollars.) What struck me was that the PSP delivered on the hardware, and thats all I could ask. Its not their fault movie studios want to release "Bring it On" on umd then bi_ch because it wont sell! Playstation 3 has the potential to replace alot of components in my living room because of its multi-media functions. This is "value". To me the brilliance(highly overlooked) of the PS3 is the connection with the PSP and I hope they see this! Location free included on the PS3 IS NO SMALL THING. For those of you who dont know what that is, its like everything saved on your hardrive beamed into cyberspace and you can access it with your PSP in a hotzone anywhere worldwide! One word-BRILLIANT! You could access your photos, music, games, etc, etc, I could go on and on but when you compare PS3 and 360 side by side with features there is no comparison. Maybe not for you, but for me its worth every penny. And one more question? So many claim that the 360 is a success, but with so many gamers worldwide who have not yet jumped on the badwagon I cant help but wonder what they are waiting for? Perhaps PS3? With the Millions and millions sold, if the general public saw the 360 as the true next generation platform they would have made the move by now dont you all think? Especially after Sonys poor e3 showing? I think like me they know the next generation starts with Sony and the Playstation 3 and I cant wait!!!.....and another thing: anyone who says I was gonna get a PS3 but now based on "nothing" I think I will now get 360 is full of dung! I cant imaging having "descided" on a $600 purchase and then going "uh, never mind"!lol!
"Sony left avertising up to the children who adopted the format early,but did very little to inform the public themselves." yes, thats sonys quality marketing at work! Gametime is their PR rep...
Dude you are so right. I am also a huge Sony fan, buuut Xbox has way to much to offer this time around, developers seem to be supporting it more than before (Sony has not made a good impression), I could not resist, and I do not regret it (Ms did make a good impression). However My plan is still to sell my Xbox and get a Ps3 (if it pans out well).
"Badwagon" "descided"? Perhaps you are and average, uneducated adult. If people are waiting for the PS3, the severe shortage this year and into next will make some diehard Sony Playstation fans go the 360 route, since a lot of good games will be on both systems and the good PS3 exclusives are a ways off. Waiting forever for a system you can barely afford and then can't find to buy when it does come out has a way of making people reconsider their options. Couple that with the undeniably awesome game line up that will be available by next summer for the 360, including awesome launch titles at greatest hit prices, and I can see droves of former "Playstation" fans... Jumping IN!
OK, so everyone is cribing on about the price right now. I live in Ireland, and when the PS2 reared its head we paid £480.00 for the privilege. that equates to @ €609.00, so why the cribbing. yes the PS2, which is still running, has been used by more than myself. has been a superb buy. i look forward to the PS3, yes i am worried, but not by the price. should i be worried baout the fact Atari don't want to develope for it, maybe, but i have it pre-booked.
all i know is that my brother-in-law, who is a hardcore sony fanboy came over to my house this weekend, and the Saints Row demo left him crushed over his PS3. "whoa this game is sick!! is this game coming to the playstation??!" "nope, its 360 exclusive" "awwwwww. DAMN IT. okay, I'm gonna HAVE to get 360. PS3 is too expensive anyway" "okay, dude, i'm buying saints row at the end of the month" True conversation. And this guy lives and dies for playstation! He's also a hardcore gamer...
there's nothing wrong with getting more than one console. chances are, he'll still buy a PS3 later when the price drops. aside from the hardcore fanboys, no one on the Sony side truely thinks the 360 is a bad console. the reason why we haven't bought one yet is because we haven't seen any games we would die for. your brother-in-law on the other hand, experienced Saint's Row and that won him over.
yeah, he has said if the 360 was a sony playstation he would have bought one already! lol games do make peoples minds up though. its interesting to watch... one of the reasons i wanted 360 was for oblivion
I'm sorry I just wish sony would release more info, if I'm saving $600+ for a system that is just a few months away I want more info on it. I want to know how the game are looking I want to see what online will look like when 40 players are playing Resistance. I want to see MGS4 Game Play NOT A VIDEO! I will get a PS3 if the can convince me that the system won't be just a hyped 3DO. Sony is right it is worth the money for all the fetures but I want to see them show me that the games are going to be worth it. I want this to play games not watch HD Movies, I don't own a HD Tv and won't for a long time so I want this to play games. I know the Blu-ray is great for the bigger size games and I look forward to more advanced games but I need to see more proof this system is going to produce what it claims.
Its time to start giving us details. My big fear is that they will make a great product, but wont do crap to sell it. Remember, Sony has not produced any official adverts for PS3 yet, and microsoft has 360 adverts everywhere! I think this is about to change. I beleive ign.com is promising something in the next week or two thats supposed to be big. It needs to be!
Thing is though, Sony dont care if you are angry that you aint got no details because you are still saving for a console you know nothing about, Sony would only give a rats ass if you said you werent waiting and bought a Xbox instead! You also just said a PS3 is worth the money while complaining that you have had no details to tell you why you are saving the cash, make up your mind!
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.There is nothing wrong with the 360. I only bought one to hold me over until the PS3 comes out. I don't dislike the 360. I just prefer the PS3.
how can you prefer the PS3 when it hasn't been released yet? just wondering...
i got my 360 for gears of war,halo, and ninja gaiden thats the only reason but i love it but the ps3 has a lot of the franchises i love like ratchet and clank, naughty dogs games, god of war, i havent played any mgs games yet though, and the new killzone will be amazing if it looks anything close to the e3 video, and warhawk, resistance, and heavenly sword look really fun
Because it's his God given right.
its the games that have made such a huge impression (for me it obviously was Jak II). Sony fans know that if the Ps3 is anywhere near what its supposed to be.. MS will get TROUNCED worst than the last generation and that my friend, would end the console war for the next 10-15 years strong. Trust me.
I think the fact that soo many have yet to get a 360 that already have a PS2 says that in fact the 360 is getting TROUNCED, by being first to market with "next gen" abilities, yet instead of saving for a 360 they would rather purchase another PS2!
The 360 costs $400 + tx That is too much for a lot of people. We are gamers everyone on this site. It is worth that price to us to buy the system. It is not worth it to people who are buying the PS2 at $129 That is a $271 price difference. Don't you think this means something. It will be a long while before either the 360 or PS3 reach the numbers of the xbox or PS2 simply because they are not worth it to people who don't love games like we do.
Sony fans know that if the Ps3 is anywhere near what its supposed to be.. MS will get TROUNCED ... Its Hypotetical Relax!
Yeah right, The xbox sold I would say 30 million units in its lifetime. The 360 has sold almost 5 million allready. By the time the PS3 comes out there will be 8 to 9 million 360's sold. There will not be any PS3's for the hollidays and neither will there be any wii's. So it means that the 360 will sell redicolously. You my friend are a fanboy.
"mommy, they are out of ps3's so can i get a wii?" Thats hilarious! Oh wait, I have another one: "So what your saying is that the new HD-DVD isnt in stock, I will take the Samsung VCR?"LOL..LOL....LOL! I will say it again: NO ONE WILL COMMIT $600 TO PLAYSTATION 3 THEN SAY OK I WILL GET A WII SINCE ITS IN STOCK! THAT IS TOO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED FOR AN IMPULSE BUY!(UNLESS YOUR PARIS HILTON)...I am a not a fanboy! I am very impressed with 360, but for $400 I think I should get more for my money than that! You "my friend" are an "XCOX SUCKER"!
So many complain of the $600 price tag, but lets not forget that 360 fans are being taken advantage of by microsoft! One of the best things about the Playstation brand is thier commitment to the customer! Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves for not making the 360 fully backwards compatible! All of these di-hard fans who support them and yet they have pretty much descided that all the money you spent on the origonal XBOX is a waste because you have to go out and buy new games. Why arent 360 users upset about about this. Boy, it sure makes the PS3's price alot more bearable knowing I can stilll enjoy all my old games from PS1, and PS2. "Millions" of titles!
that article was cool . I'm not gonna say how i think the console wars will play out because i know fanboys will kill to get a point across.
look peops... patience is a virtue.... nintendo fans are dying for news on the wii!!!! they are worse off than the the sony fans are... they haven't goten a price or a stable release date of the system.... and more than likely will get te truck load of it ate tgs06... personally this wait and mystery surrounding the ps3 makes it even more worth the wait. at least i've been given a release date, and a price point. and a list of games that will hold me over till the big guns come about... we may not know all the details but TGS06 is the thing this year. MS had the xbox fan base in total anxiety waiting for the 360 details and they had to wait till TGS06 and X05. personally It worked for them, especially when the fanbase for the xbox was drastically smaller than sony's... every sony fan has been given the price point for both configurations of the system, and they will buy either the 500 or the 600 version of the system.... both America and Europe especially europe are going crazy over the ps3, and the US is marginally on the same hype ove the systms release. if sony hsn't already justifed the price to most of it potential consumers here and around the world then they wll surely get that justification at this years tgs, which will be the final push for the system, and believe me it will drive many mad... sooo much will be announced and games that were absent from e306 will be present at tgs06. the world will see wat it is that sony is doing. fan boys and analysists critizised sony for not marketting there next gen machine and and are already making predictions as if they are Ms.Cleo, I say to them it's too darn early to right off sony... Nintendo hs barely done anything to market the wii and its not even under fire... Do u realize that the wii and i'm certain will be at least 300 dollars the price of a low end 360... nintendo knows it can generate the profit at that price. and yet we kno jack squat about the wii. people dont even know if the wii mote is an add on peripheral that will be sold seperately or come with it. at lease everyone knows the both versions of the ps3 comes with a wireless bluetooth controller, Harddrive. lets not get hasty here, sony knows how to market a console, they have done it exceptionally well in the past two generations and they will do just as well in this one. They have not lost developers and they Cancellation of one or 2 games does not make or break a syste. maybe they lost timed exclusive rights to a few game franchises but it will still be released on the console... Rest asured the the lid will be open and everyone will see what they are getting there money into. E3 was just the stage rehersal for a trely significant and Dire Performance before the launch... so hold tight and be patient. The price is there, the system is there, and we already know the forcast of high prifile, Promising, and mediocore launch titles and of course the Triple A' Sofware that will grace the system for next year, both from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party developers who have commited to support the console and thats Sh*t load of Devs. plus News of development of the Final system was released late june and went into overdrive mass production status mid july, so the forcast for this year will satisfy many at launch and for the next 4 months, which is a good sign. Sony has place carefully preparations for this and will see it through so... hold it down... just 3.5 months left. be easy... if you have the 360 and the ps2, DS and PSP, play them for the time being because there are quite alot of promising Titles to be released for each of those platform prior to the launch of the console everyone is looking at. and believe me it isn't the wi or the 360. other wise many wouldn't be waiting to see what the deal with the ps3... so enjoy the current gen and the first "next gen" until the next 2 release. peace out.
nice comment Sevir04
thanks i'm glad u and may others who read this understand what i'm geting at.
I think serviro4 is a little paranoid and probobly goes to this site to much.
Dude just so u know i'm just imploringbhose who cant wait to wait for what they want. i'm far from paranoid... and secondly i on a 360 and i will own the wii and ps3 so dont try to start a contention with me because i'll make u look really stupid... i'm a gamer not a fankid, which u really appear to be. becaue if u've checked how many comments i've made here u'd know that i'm not very active here on this site... i'm only here when i see need to comment. i can speak badly or goodly about the 60's offerings because i own one... so before u start to call me anything make it ur priority to find out about the person before u start a verbal assault. because in this post i said nothing about Xbox that is bad... And further more i wouldn't be paranoid that i'll be owning a second and 3rd console later this year. if u ask me from the looks of ur comment u have reason tobe paranoind because u maynot be able to afford another console to have a great experience on, and u must eel that u may miss out because ur loyalism is only onsided and baised... Word of advise, dont be narrow minded, broaden your apreciation for the love of games so u can judge them fairly that wait u wondt be the fankid u appear to be like many of these others who are on this site.
I guess he made you like like an ass? Dam.
People are waiting because human beings colectively are foolish when it come to having the best and we are suckers when somebody says "THE BEST" and thats what Sony has claimed nothing more and nothing less. lol
I agree that Sony Does, and people fall for it. but So does MS, and Nintendo, and, Ati and Nvidia, and everyone else that has something on the market for consumers. we wont buy something if we dont think it's good and people marketers and publishers and developers wont make something if they didn't think it could sell and that it wasn't there best... so just saying sony, alone is being baised we have to break away from that and truelly lok to appreciate everything bthat is good, from all publishers and devs
My good friend [PL II] got another HDTV and wanted HDMI cables for it; so we went shopping for HDMI cables, personaly i would have picked up the RCA brand cables but because people say monster is the best he wasted his money on (did i say wasted?)spent his money on them. They would have had the same picture quality; with Monster being slightly built better. lol
I know that I've always heard the Monster's the top of the line cables. And don't they have alifetime warranty or something?
CHOICE.if a person wants to buy a($400)360 and get halo 3,gears of war,etc.or a person wants to get a($600)ps3 to play devil may cry 4,heavenly sword,etc.that's their choice.let THEM enjoy the choice THEY made.just because a person doesn't agree with their choice doesn't make them right.each system will have fun on them.enjoy it.don't put down their decision.
You might as well stop trying. I have tried and tried to use logic in the past, but the fanboys seem to ignore that skill and continue with their rants. I have always said that all three systems are damn good and offer something unique - but there is always a MS, Wii, or Sony fanboy that wants to refute that by saying "____ is way better because ____, and ____ sucks because it doesn't have _____." I find this kind of funny because only 1 of the Next Generation systems is out and so no one can really compare. All the fanboys are going off of is specs. Another funny thing is, 90% of customers don't buy a system because of specs alone, they buy a system because they are interested in the games or other peripherals it has to offer (Eye Toy, Online play, rumble, tilt, or the combination of the above). So who care is one system is a half a nanosecond faster than another, or that its frame rate is better? One of my favorite games has crappy framerate and graphics, but I love playing it online because I have a lot of friends that play it - Socom 3. Yes, it's a Sony game, and yes, Holo2 has much better graphics and framerate. But I don't like Halo because my preference is for more realistic 3d person shooters. With that said, I will probably get GRAW when I purchase my 360, and I will get Socom 4 for the PS3. You see, both systems have something to offer that I want. . .
i see what your saying.but one bad apple in the bunch doesn't make them all bad.gamers who like games are going to reach other gamers before they jump on bandwagons just because it seems cool.some of these people will be the ones we'll be playing with online.i'd rather play with someone who's a gamer and good sportsman than gamers who lack maturity and can't see that all systems have good games on them.and if the community of gamers is to grow,and the industry,the good ones need to keep trying.
I wonder if these kinds of arguments are going to exist once PS3 games are on shelves and properly reviewed/demoed. Sony's delivered on their promises with PS1, PS2, and PSP, so there's no reason to doubt them this time around. Urbanguy06 makes a good point in that the PSP delivered exactly what Sony promised, despite what blog sites and angry fanboys yell out. It has nearly the same power as a PS2, plays widescreen high-quality movies, music, has wireless internet for browsing and online play, has the best screen of any handheld ever made, and best of all it fits right in your pocket. For $199, how much more can you ask for? Even i-pods cost more and still don't have the videogame and online functionalities. PS3 is going to deliver what's been promised; simple as that. Everyone knows that Launch titles for every platform ever made don't show off the true potential of their respective systems. And considering how good the PS3 launch titles look, you can be sure that future titles are going to be even more spectacular.
"Sony's delivered on their promises with PS1, PS2, and PSP" emotion chip? LOL "PS3 is going to deliver what's been promised; simple as that." LOL sony lie. and lie. and you lick it up.
THATS IT YOU ARE A SONY FAN BOY ........ DJ YOU TALK TRASH!!!!!
check these early tech demo videos and tell me the ps2 didn't outdo what you saw.it surpassed the early targets.so did the xbox.look at the video of heavenly sword in 2005.then look at it being played in 2006 in may.it is possible these systems can pull off the target demonstrations with enough time and effort. http://www.nvnews.net/vbull...
The thing about the PS3 tech demos is that many of them weren't even running in real-time. Not only did they not have to worry about things like AI and physics and such, but they ran at an extremely low framerate and then were sped up into a video file and played back at full speed. Sure, the console was "running" them, but when they can't even run a tech demo at full speed, how do they expect games to reach that after adding in all the elements to the game outside of graphics that put a strain on the system? Again, the sole purpose of the PS3 tech demos is to divert attention away from the Xbox 360,
All three systems will be out, available to whoever wants to buy them for whatever their current price is, and will have demo units side-by-side in stores playing the current "wow" factor game for each specific system. Then, all this speculation and hupe will be dead and gone and the real "battle" if, you will, is on. Even then, it will take YEARS for some questions to be answered. Was releasing their system first the advantage Microsoft though/hoped/needed it to be? Will the inclusion of blu-ray in every PS3 be the best decision Sony ever made, or the final nail in their proprietary format coffin? Is the Wii's controller "revolution"ary in the way that attracts new gamers and adds new experiences, or a side-note in the next gen wars that will be a quickly forgotten fad by consumers and developers alike? Hell, the whole videogame market could crash, it did before (just ask Atari). The thing is, there may NEVER be a "winner" in this war... If Sony sells more consoles, but at a greater loss in $$ for each, do they "win." If the Wii sells more than the Gamecube, but still ends up with Nintendo in third place, do they lose? Will Microsoft's Game division finally make money? It seems funny to me, because the real winner AND loser in all this seems to be the consumer. All three systems are amazing and bring new things to the table, but very few people can afford all three. The PS3 and 360 will push HD graphics and movies, but how many people can afford a HD TV to take advantage of this? The PS3 has buit-in Blu-ray support, but will the average consumer, after dropping $1,000 dollars on a system, 2 games, and an extra controller, be willing to buy a movie they already have on DVD for $29.99 just to get the Blu-ray version? Wow. Quite a lot more to think about, these days, compared to the "blood" vs. "sweat" debate on Mortal Kombat's Genesis vs. SuperNES days....
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