PSJailbreak Sony Injuction Hearing Postponed Until Friday

"As reported earlier at ps3jailbreak.com, Sony, OzMods and Quantronics were set to have their scheduled injunction hearing today. This hearing was to decide the legality of selling PSJailbreak usb dongles in Australia. According to OzMods twitter the court hearing has been delayed until Friday, due to the judge being busy."

[tiamat5]

I don't see why Sony would purposely delay the case. The only reason I see why they would do that is because they have something up their sleeves

[BiggCMan]

the judge wanted a little more time to use his psjailbreak so he could catch up on some of the great games he missed haha XD.

seriously though, i hope these guys get some punishment.

[shoddy]

I jinx you hacker that jailbreak will stop you from playing online and future games.

Stuck in 2010 for ever b1tches!

[Fred-G-Sanford]

"court hearing has been delayed until Friday, due to the judge being busy."

lol, GTFO of here with that crap.

I'm guessing that he is "busy" cashing Sony's checks and smoking Sony's cigars.

Will someone just make this free already? :D

[commodore64]

Gotta agree there fred-g-sanford.

Isn't it weird that when something like this happens to MS, people on n4g find the negative and present it as the truth. Yet when Sony is the one metaphorically pulling the corporate strings in the background, we laud their integrity?
Oh please, gimme a break.

Honestly, why is Sony dictating to gamers what they should or should not be able to do to the property they paid for. Some gamers paid over $600 for their ps3s, even purchasing extra harddrives at $100 a pop, not even counting the thousands of dollars spent on games.
Isn't that enough?

It really is imperative that the judge dismisses Sony's injunction as soon as possible. Each additional day that the JB is delayed is further income lost for legitimate gamers that want to backup their games and gain access to homebrew content.

I completely understand that Sony's rationale is to stop piracy on the PS3.
However, by issuing this court order, Sony is preventing legitimate users from using their paid-for property (the ps3) as they see fit.

Fact is, the JB allows me to backup my games, that I already own, onto the harddisc that Sony forced me to have on the ps3 anyway.
Really, what's wrong with that?
I am not a pirate and Sony is losing no income.

Can ANYONE answer me why the hell I should not be able to do so, if the means are available and I am choosing to do it?

I am sick to death of Sony defenders, that populate N4g in vast numbers, defending any and all actions that Sony undertakes to limit my use of my property that I paid for and that resides in my home.

I have a legitimate use for the jailbreak.
I am not going to copy games, nor will I pirate anything.
I will simply backup games to save wear and tear on the ps3 bluray drive and on the discs themselves and use homebrew, hopefully.

Come on, let's get this pathetic attempt at profiteering by Sony out of the courts once and for all.
I have had enough.
This court hearing needs to be thrown out on the street by the judge, that's for sure.

[Eamon]

commodore64, I'm not a Sony diehard or anything but I have to say

Sony have a good chance of winnning this case because while the PSjailbreak doesn't specifically give the user the ability to copy his games to hdd, the backup manager software does and the psjailbreak was advertised using the backup manager.

Australia are okay with backups, playing games of any region and homebrew but they aren't okay with copyright breach and this was how the jailbreak was advertised.

I personally feel the psjailbreak should be legal since the device specifically only "jailbreaks" the PS3 into being "open" or "unlocked". Not does the actual copying.

What's worrying is this delay. I can only imagine Sony were behind this. Court delays when there is a powerful client involved is not a good sign. This is looking bad for the psjailbreak team. lol

I guess we'll find out on Friday.

[gatormatt80]

The retailers dont stand a chance. Doesnt Australia ban certain games or edit them to their liking. Wasnt it Manhunt that was banned or was it the second one. Either way Sony's pockets run deep, real deep.

[ndibu]

They know they'll lose the case and so it's off to delay tactics. This isn't a suprise though, I mean Sony is synonymous with Delays...or is that denial? I forget

[zoks310]

It has nothing to do with Sony, Judges dont come in infinite supply, something came up, the judge took the day off, and the court could not cover the open shift in time, simple as that.
Now Sony and the hackers have more time to review their cases before they present it to court.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

I think...Sony realised..its better to have them all assasinated!the makers and the people that buy them!

[OneSneakyMofo]

Sony's getting ready for the throw down. They postponed it to Friday to fuck up the hackers' Labor Day. :D

[PS3-247]

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[Awsomo]

XBOX 360 owners win!!

[zeeshan]

And how does 360 owners win? Care to explain that retarded comment of yours?

[Eamon]

I think he was being sarcastic.

[Fireseed]

I seriously hope that this judge realizes that as consumers we do not lease products from these companies we buy them outright. I know this is a radical idea but this means that they are ours to do with what we want. If I want custom firmware on my PS3 then so be it.

However I at the same time look down upon pirates. But to say that jailbreaking the system is to pirate, would be like saying everyone who owns a gun uses it for crime.

[wsoutlaw87]

yes we should be able to do what we want, however you do not have the right to steal a product or unlawfully copy it and sell it (or give it away for free to others) like people do when the upload/download games.

[tiamat5]

That makes no sense. Why should I open the security of my console just because you say you will be honest with it. Then what about the other few million that aren't honest.The pirates will want it to make sales off of games and millions of dishonest people will buy them. I don't understand why people use this excuse to justify what they do. When you buy a gun you are responsible for it not to be used for unlawful purposes.You can use the PS3 for what ever you want as long as it is within the parameters of the law. The contract you signed with Sony is a legal agreement. Using the USB means that you are not only a criminal yourself but you are an accomplice to the original crime. You can't just say you didn't steal it yourself or buy it from the original thieves so therefore that puts you in the clear

[Dasteru]

Simply purchasing a piece of hardware does not automatically sign you into any legal agreement, the only agreement related to the ps3 or any system for that matter is when u sign into the online aspect of the system, and even then the agreement only applies to the online aspect, not the physical hardware of the system or any offline software. as for modifying said hardware or offline software, once u purchase the hardware it is legally you're property and u can modify the hardware all u want as long as it doesn't interfere with the online abilities of the system or allow the use of illegal software such as pirated material. As for the software, that remains the property of the hardware seller and it is illegal to "modify" the pre existing software, However it is not illegal to remove said software entirely and/or apply you're own made-from-scratch software, again so long as it does not allow the use of illegal material. PSjailbreak's code from what i have read is made entirely from scratch (not modified from pre-existing sony software) nor does it modify the ps3 system software in any manner, it simply creates a security check bypass allowing the running of unsigned code (intended use of which is homebrew). Although it is possible to exploit the jailbreak allowing the use of pirated material, that is not what it is designed for. If people choose to use it in that manner, that is there own doing and not the fault of jailbreaks creaters, If someone were to use a baseball bat the kill another person would u charge the manufacturer for selling a deadly weapon just because it was possible to use it in that way?

[Fireseed]

Yes their are many who are dishonest but does that mean we outlaw everyone? NO. Music piracy is pretty rampant on the internet, but I don't download music, however their are some untrustable individuals out there does that mean we ban the internet?

[forcefullpower]

You are right in that if the dongle does not have and sony code in it. It could be considered legal to have. One of the problems is that they could be caught on a technicality. As the backup manager program for being created with an stolen SDK or something else. I dont think this will be as cut and dry as you think it will be.

Plus £140 quid for it is a rip off. Even the wiiwode is only £70.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

their prize is $60 Xbox live gold

[Otheros00]

With no new features added.

[yewles1]

Not true... they get ESPN3 for ANOTHER $10 afterwards. XD

[fooltheman]

great.... you'll get a feature that most people don't need... and you'll need to pay for it...
Why didn't they say that to spice up their E3 showing?

[Awsomo]

With X game chat and superior versions of multiplat games!

[wsoutlaw87]

not sure how superior versions of multiplat games relates to 10$ extra for live.

[Subzero200x]

It's too late this shit is all over the net.

"Sony's getting ready for the throw down. They postponed it to Friday to fuck up the hackers' Labor Day. :D"

lol ur joking right.

[tiamat5]

Of course he's joking. And so what if it all over the net. If it becomes illegal to use or sell it, people will be less eager to retail it in fear they will get their merchandise confiscated or be sued by Sony and people will be less inclined to use it.

[ndibu]

Time to crack it open and see if I can't clone it myself.
If I can, alot of friends and cousins are getting free games this xmas.
Did I say games? I meant um homebrew, homebrew!

[Amplitude]

Hmmm. Do me a favor and go kill yourself. It'd be much appreciated, and would make both gaming and the world in general much, much better. Thanks! :D

[Chris399]

You've already admitted that you don't have a PS3, so why would you purchase a PSjailbreak? Your trolling is getting sloppy now. You are not the brightest troll in the village (I assume that trolls live in communities these days) to start with, but really, at least keep track of your bull$hit.

http://n4g.com/news/593988/...

(scroll down to post #1.7.4; it was marked as "trolling" - no surprise there - so you have to search for it)

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

...I hope ur not South African,you'd be giving us a bad name,considering it though..you prolly have a chipped 360. FaIL!

[jay2]

Well I can see Sony winning this, but if it's only banning it is Australia, then the rest of the world will get it and sad people in oz will just import it.