RAGE game engine to take "full advantage of the power across all platforms"

We hear from developers every other day that their new title will be the same on both consoles, they rarely do. There is usually small to huge differences, be it visual or in the actual running of the game. It is not every day you hear of a game using an entire new game engine, and the Rage developer revealed some interesting facts about using a brand new engine. He is confident that they can deliver titles running the same on all platforms.

[Tommykrem]

I'm sure it'll be impressive. Very impressive. And I hope it betters the hype machine that is Crysis 2, but I think only exclusive games will take full advantage of its consoles. So fingers crossed for games like Halo: Reached and The Last Guardian.

Of course fingers crossed for RAGE as well. It looks awesome.

[Dragun619]

Rage looks like it will take advantage of each platform power with their engine and their mega textures technique. Hell, even on the iPhone it looks phenomal that I can say that it's on par with ps2/ xbox/gc graphics. I think ID software is really saying the truth when they're taking advantage of each platform's power. The rage enigne is really impressive and John carmack is a genius for introducing mega textures.

[Blazing_Crabs]

Crytek did that at Gamescom too.

[morganfell]

I am an older gamer and cut my PC gaming teeth before iD but I spent a lot of long nights with Quake and Doom. I think the greatest moment in gaming history was when John Carmack first walked by a PC and said, "Cool. How does this thing work?"

But here is a fact: Runs and looks the same on all platforms = not pushing each respective platform to it's limit. In other words it will be surpassed by a platform exclusive.

[Chubear]

People keep saying this game is open world open world. They are in for a rude awakening E3 2011. You'll realize the "open world gameplay' isn't too far from what you'll see in Killzone3.

Rage is not Open world. It hasn't been in a long time. It was supposed to be but... yeah, you know what happened :/

[Cyrax_87]

And is it supposed to be like Borderlands or something (loved that game)? I'd look myself but my work computers have youtube/gametrailers ect all blocked.

[maawdawg]

9/13/2011 according to quotes from ID and Bethesda at Gamescom and Quakecon.

[gamingdroid]

Unfortunately, looking the same and taking "full advantage of the power across all platforms" doesn't work. It is an oxymoron.

[lovemyps3]

imagine if they utilize the cell processor for the ps3 and take advantage of it, i would be awestruck, look at killzone 3's graphics, now imagine them utilizing the cell for ps3 for rage... imagine how amazing the graphics will be!

[dragonelite]

Do you really think they dont use the cell already?????Sadface if true
If they didn't imaging how rage on the 360 looks like with it's much more powerful Gpu and using the cpu better. They are using only one leg on the 360 then when it has 3.

[Hotel_Moscow]

http://www.xbox365.com/news...

http://gamer.blorge.com/200...

http://www.cubed3.com/topic...

http://www.next-gen.biz/new...

the similarities in all his comments is that he doesnt like the cell processor and i dont think he wants to even learn about the cell processor from the things he says like "using the ps3 power as a multiplatform developer can only happen in THEORY but in REALISTIC terms the 360 is more powerful"

[Hotel_Moscow]

yep and then i get 5 disagrees against undeniable proof like all my comments about john carmack

idk is its sony fanboys who think im trying to say the 360 is better or

john carmack fanboys who dont want anything speaking out against him said

[Shaman]

Wow...You are crazy...they are probably using Cell near fullest.I mean its freaking 60fps game,dont expect to get everything KZ3 does...

[pixelsword]

@ Hotel_Moscow:

In theory Carmack is right, but Realistically the PS3's best exclusives have always been heads and shoulders above the 360's best exclusives graphically and particle-wise, unless you want to compare and show me otherwise.

Carmack spoke out of his butt or else he and his crew would have figured out a way to keep the whole game instead of chopping out 1/3 of the factions in the game to make it work on two discs.

I like Id and their games, but this game had better have all of the bells and whistles and particles and physics and be better than every PS3 game that is out if he wants to say that theoretically the 360 is more powerful, but as of yet no multiplat or 360 exclusive has the chops that can take down Uncharted 2, God of War, Killzone 2, or Motorstorm.

As of the release of Id's game, this one game has to be better than all of the above games in there respective strengths for Carmack's comment to be considered legitimate.

[alphakennybody]

haven't we heard the same thing from many other multiplate devs and how it always turns out in the end?

[lovemyps3]

i agree, but imagine if rage pulls this off (only by utilizing the cell though.)

[Bobbykotickrulesz]

The PS3 (superior console) always turns out with shittier graphics or glitches.

How about from now on, anyone developing for a multiplat console game developes on the PS3 FIRST.

[Pandamobile]

But it's id.

[thebudgetgamer]

this isn't some fly by night developer we're talking about.

[CrippleH]

Very True. It's just PR talk.

[ThanatosDMC]

Yeah, i'll believe it when i see it.

[dredgewalker]

I am a bit skeptical but if it can deliver graphically cause everytime the bar is raised it's us gamers who benefit the most.

[Kingdom Come]

Which is why when they say things that most lie when saying, I believe them. You can tell just how much effort is being put in to a game when they even produce a 60 Fps version for the iPhone...

[DelbertGrady]

Wouldn't that be a matter of course?

Everytime I hear a developer stating something like this it gives me the feeling that they've stumbled upon issues and are trying to cover up flaws.

I have no doubt (at all) in id's competence as a developer though. If anyone can pull off multiplatform magic on consoles it would be them.

[ndibu]

Will there be grass?

[lovemyps3]

it will have exclusive dlc thats for sure, screw grass

[ndibu]

Or is that in the dlc?

[Biggest]

If someone offered me the choice of a larger game or more grass. . . Well I would be a fool not to take the grass. It's probably the most important feature in gaming. Right, ndibu? Did you get your PS3Jailbreak yet? How's it working for you since it's oh so real?

[Boody-Bandit]

That horse has done been beaten to death and taken to the glue factory a while back.

[dragonelite]

If there is one team that can do it it's ID with carmack.
Just look at how 60 fps shooters look like example is the cod franchise.
And compare it to how rage looks like open world and 60 fps.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Does anyone know?

[wlchrbandit]

If the 360 can't handle it, it won't be in the game. Developers need to stop trying to treat everyone equally and just try and get the most out of each system. The PS3 and PC are suffering because of the 360. Look at Crysis 2, they've already said they've dumbed down the PC version so it's on par with the consoles.. It's ridiculous..

[pixelsword]

If the saboteur can pull it off on the "weaker" PS3 (to paraphrase carmack) then it had better.

[talltony]

He never said it was "weaker" in fact he said the opposite but the ps3 takes more sweat and blood to program for but he said that like 2 years ago before sony released 70mb more ram to be used in games.

[Neurotoxin]

You can always tell when a game is gonna be badly ported on the PS3, it either gets exclusive day 1 content or a limited edition.

[Inferno]

Because Batman: AA was inferior on the ps3.../s

[X-Frame]

It seems every "big" game coming out pushes each console to their limits these days .. I thought the PS3 has a 10 year life cycle?

Devs need to stop with this lingo. They're NOT pushing the limits of the console .. they're pushing the limits of their knowledge of the consoles now (except the 360, that's been maxed out for a while. :P)

[DA_SHREDDER]

I wouldn't say the 360 is maxed out either. Wait until Insomniac makes a title for the machine, then you can really see the difference in what the 360 can and cannot do.

[Shaman]

Insomniac is nothin compared to Id or Crytek when it comes to tech...

[pixelsword]

Wasn't Crysis on the 360 said to be not great looking?

[Ingram]

I don't know what to believe anymore.

It's ID soft, yeah but still...always repeating the same *hit
"it will be the same" and "no one will notice any difference" usually means =

"We've tried our best, we just ported from PC and our engine looks mildly ok on both consoles, with performance struggling on PS3 or badly implemented alpha-to-coverage, but *uck it, we don't know how to even load anti-aliasing on the SPU's, we just loaded there the 7.1 sound and such"

I just hope they MEAN it when they say it's the SAME, Rocksteady did it, Criterion did it, and I truly hope ID is able to pull it.

[Xfanboy]

Then Im playing above 1080p on my PC!! maybe around 35fps?

[Xfanboy]

http://www.cubed3.com/topic...
3 core cpu vs 1 core cpu with 8 spus?? which is better idk!

[xavier-tooth]

uncharted 1 and 2, kz2 and 3, GoW3 and GT5 said excuse me.

if he can produce a game with that same amount of technical details with the games i mentioned above, i will believe him with what he claimed on that link.

[theonlylolking]

I agree. This is just so hype can build up for this game. If you make a multiplatform game and say its using 100% of the power across all platforms. You are lieing well... at least for the PS3 and PC.

PCs always get more powerful each year so you can never max out a pc as long as you upgrade it. We can see with our eyes that Killzone 3 looks better than rage. We can also see crysis 2 xbox 360 looks better then rage.

Rage is impressive for 60fps but nothing to go GAGA over.

[WLPowell]

The one who has delivered the best looking games. End of discussion. I'm sure Crysis 1 was a royal pain in the ass to develop, but it doesn't matter as it's the graphics king still.

[Cock4Gamers]

look at mister armchair engineer coming out to enlighten us about the inner workings of both the xbox 360 and ps3. I take it you have some white papers to back up your statements right? You also have developer diaries and other narrations of that ilk supporting your claim right? No, you don't. You are comparing games that are developed for a console that has an extreme amount of first developers that are focused 100% on the system to ensure they look great, to a console that has a definite lack of such developers to bring out the best in the system. Sure, the games speak volumes on the power of the ps3, but the lack of games on the 360 is a testament to the fact that really nobody except bungie and turn 10 and a few other devs has developed a 360 only and optimized engine to show how powerful or not the xbox 360 really is.

[StitchJones]

With the lighting issues in Doom 3 and the lackluster gameplay in Quake IV, I am still gunshy to look into Rage at this point.

[siyrobbo]

Quake 4 was a raven game was it not?

[jaosobno]

Now, Carmack is a smart guy, but Rage could turn out to be a nice tech demo for ID tech 5 and not so much a game (similar to Doom 3 which had horrible gameplay/story and nice graphics). Besides, post nuclear wasteland - I'm sick of that setting. Just like World War 2 it's been overmilked.

Sadly, I don't believe that this game will be such a gem as ID likes to advertise it. Gameplay looks unexciting and enviromental textures look quite blurry.

[theonlylolking]

It is not. RAGE looks like gears 3 in 60fps, but then again it is open world so I guess they did a good job. But for those who think RAGE graphics are better than killzone 2, crysis 2(console), and halo reach. Well it does not. Just because a game is in 60fps does not instantly make it look better than other games.

Oh and what about MLAA for PS3? If it does not have it then they have not come close to maxing out PS3.

[ian72]

RAGE game engine should make the most of every system. If the final game looks half as good as they are making out, it should be great. This ID Tech5 engine is getting some hype.