Has multi-platform meant a downgrade in graphics? - Dead Rising comparison video

With Dead Rising series no longer being Xbox 360 exclusive, Msxbox-World takes a look at the two games and ponders if multi-platform has meant a downgrade in graphics. They have a comparison video for viewing.

[Godmars290]

The first had several mechanical glitches including dumb AI and the second seems dumber still.

[ShadesMoolah]

Well it's one series which was 360 exclusive and now isn't. Same as Mass Effect 2. But, we've not seen a multiplatform Mass Effect game yet.

[Godmars290]

But we've seen Oblivion in the early days of multiplats.

Things have only fluctuated from there.

[evrfighter]

nope not a downgrade. when you develop for the lowest common denominators all it means is there is no progress.

we aren't going anywhere while console gamers continue to bend over for DLC, paying to play used games online, possibly paying to play a single game online, buying shovelware soon to be across all 3 platforms, and hype themselves up for boring tech like 3d.

pc gamers are moving away from FPS games and as usual. The sheep will follow. I'm predicting more DoTA like games (not necessarily rts style, but 3rd person as well) being the next big thing.

[captain-obvious]

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nope i think its just another lazy port
and lol @ an xbox fanboys website trying to use PS3 fanboys's words

and yah one more thing
i think both games looks the same

[edhe]

Since when have those developers 'gone' from the platform?

They're just finally arriving on ps3 since Sony have managed to steer their console right 4 years into the cycle.

What's sad is that yes, it will reduce the quality of work on the 360 as they'll be getting up to speed and spending more time how to get balanced performance on the ps3, investing more time in fixing that than in exploiting the 360.

We see it time and time again that the ps3 doesn't cope as well with multiplats and there's even evidence that the 360 versions have been nerfed to achieve some platform parity:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

All these years of trying to get parity on the ps3 and 360 hasn't been holding the ps3 back - it's been pushing it forward. The 360 however has been slowed down to let the ps3 catch up. Imagine it - senior devs, code gurus and masters at work all put on ps3 projects so they can get the engine up to scratch which already runs dreamy on a 360 - imagine what they could have done on the 360 to polish & improve instead.

[mastiffchild]

Then why do PS3 exclusives routinely look better than their 360 counterparts? Fact is as devs aim for parity they aren't GOING to work the PS3 in the same optimised ways ND or GG do and will try the cheap way of fudging their usual PC/360 methods. It's plain to see if you look, seriously. Were these multiplats the best looking games for either or both systems I'd, maybe, think about your point(and EG are part owned by MS, you realise?)but as 360 exclusives can look slightly better and PS3 ones MUCH better I think it's nonsense especially when no multiplat devs seriously work on multiple SPEs like Sony's own devs.

[gamer2010]

Why is it that when the PS3 is the lead platform and the 360 gets the port it still looks just as good as the PS3 version, but when it is the other way around the PS3 versions often look inferior?

If you really think it makes sense to believe that after 4 years the supposedly more powerful console still can't regularly produce better performance on multiplatform games you are extremely out of touch with reality.

[sikbeta]

@edhe

Please.... come back to Reality and stop living that delusional dream

Multiplat games don't hold back any console and I'll explain to you why. third party devs don't push the boundaries with their games, why they'd do that? there is no "reward" for them to do it, Publishers rule Devs and IF Publishers don't see any "reward" for making their Devs doing an extra job in order to make [1] console version better than other, they just don't care, that's why the PS3 ports were lame and still coming some other lame ports

IF we want to talk about Content, that's another story, there it's where 1 console is holding back the other, this is the HD generation and we still see games with the same length or less than Last Gen, DLC should be a way to persuade gamers in order to keep that $60 copy, this gen DLC is a way to squeeze more money or try to sell a game that doesn't worth its price....

[SaberEdge]

Come on guys, I stick up for the 360 when it's unfairly being attacked, but blaming this on the PS3 doesn't make sense. The PS3 has proven itself to be an extremely powerful console if approached the right way.

I don't think they look that different anyway. There has been a slight change in the art direction and they have perhaps made a few subtle changes to handle the increased enemy count, but all in all it looks about the same level of graphical fidelity.

[SaberEdge]

I was wrong. I actually watched the video this time instead of just looking at the screenshots and there has definitely been a graphical downgrade. I don't know why they would do that. It's pretty noticeable. The textures seem lower resolution, the aliasing is worse, and the frame rate seems worse. The first Dead Rising definitely looked better.

[outrageous]

Talk about delutional...lol...you do know Sony PS3 is at the bottom right??? Can we start there! The mighty, supercomputer Sony PS3 is still at the bottom, even with 360 not selling in Japan and after 5 years.

Listen, I know you don't want to here it and your typing through tears but 360 outsells PS3 all the time. Some analysts have said 360 may push their lead to 10++ million when the numbers come in for this holiday. I don't know what Sony is gonna do...if the PS3 was pirated, maybe it could help sales...oh wait???

Now in regards to graphics NOTHING on PS3 compares to the 360's top games...NOTHING. Gears of War 1 & 2 are unmatched, not only in sales with a combined total of 12+ million but the graphics in Gears is unattainable on the PS3. ID has spent YEARS trying to get the PS3 to run Rage like it runs on 360...I'll believe it when I see it. The reason that MW2 runs 60FPS at 640p is because of the PS3. If it was on 360 only, it would run 720p. All multi-plats look, sell and play better on 360 and that's why games like MW2, RDR ( 640p PS3 Vs 720p 360 )...etc...sell millions more on 360. The cell is to slow, just like Steve Jobs said years ago.

What must be " depressing " is how it's August and there is nothing to play on PS3...a car sim...um...Sony Move and LBP 2...right. I know, I own a PS3. Nothing but rentals all year. Depressing INDEED!!!

[bushfan]

Gears of War 1 & 2 unmatched on PS3????
If that is true..then Olivia Munn is my bit.chy.

lol

dude, go get a PS3 and see what "next gen" it's all about

[Anon1974]

@ outrageous. Time to do your homework.

"360 outsells PS3 all the time."
No, no no. Check your facts. At it's height the 360 had an 8 million console lead over the PS3. 8 million. What's that lead at now? 3.3 million as of the last official report from each company. So what does that mean? Obviously it proves the PS3 has been outselling the 360 head 2 head. Even for the first 6 months of 2010, according to Microsoft and Sony the PS3 has sold 1.6 million console more than the 360.

And as for "nothing" on the PS3 matching the graphics of Gears and Gears 2 - give your head a shake. Even the first Uncharted, character models were pushing twice the polygons of Gears and ran flawlessly. Since then we've witnessed dozens of games the 360 just doesn't have anything close to. Starting with Uncharted and MGS4, just a few include GT5, Heavy Rain, Uncharted2, Killzone, The Show.

I can only assume your either an ignorant gamer or simply a troll. I'm going to go with "troll". There's many valid criticism you can level at the PS3. The graphical prowess of its exclusives versus the 360 isn't one of them.

[No Way]

Hmm, depressing? Really? o.O
I don't think everyone takes this 'war' as seriously as you do..

[ExplosionSauce]

PS3 exclusives look awesome, period.
So why does the PS3 version of some multi-platform games look somewhat less impressive?

*Multi-platform games aren't developed for PS3 the same way exclusive games are.
*With 360, exclusive and multi-platform development is pretty much the same.

Does this help you understand things better?

[Shepherd 214]

Bungie, Mass Effect and Valve have gone?

Damn, no one told me. I could have swore id still get to play their games on my 360.

[XabiTheHumble]

LMAO!! I gotta admit you gave me a good laugh, I could just picture how sure of yourself you were while you were typing your comment. But your comment is still probably the most deluded piece I ever read on n4g

[ABizzel1]

The zombies look a lot better in part 2 and overall part 2 looks better. But graphics aren't pushing this game, it's the number of zombies on screen.

The devs said in the first game only 800 zombies could be on screen, but this time 7000 can. That's a huge jump.

[Moonboots]

I don't know what to say but yes you can see the game is uglier now.

However you've got a new studio doing it and while I won't go as far as to blame hardware you have a studio trying to make the game for every platform under the sun. That will divide your resource and it can have an effect.

I knew this was coming the day they announced this botched sequel.

I am a huge fan of the original. Just a couple achievements shy of 1000.

[scofios]

Yeah msxbox-world sure , they needed to downgrade the graphics because it went multi-platform to a much more powerfull system , which has games that run cirkels around the first dead rising and every other game on that beloved system of yours . the only reason that dead rising 2 , might not look as good as the first one, is because Dead Rising 2 is not developed by Capcom like the first one , but by Blue Castle Games who are not talented as capcom , you ignorant clowns .

[big_silky]

I don't think DR was exactly known for it's graphical prowess to begin with.

[edhe]

It was one of the first games to demonstrate the massive character numbers possible in this gen.

[ndibu]

Dead Rising 2 was gimped cos of you

[yewles1]

*bounces off like Jell-O*

[TheHater]

Yep, Dead Rising 2 was gimped because of the PS3

[ndibu]

Because thats what we're talkin' bout here. The 1st one was exclusive its looked ok, now that they had to split resources and focus on that cry baby powerful machine, they had to gimp it cos of time restraints.

[Unicron]

An increase in zombie numbers means all that geo has to go somewhere. It looks to be a design choice, especially if the numbers of 800 up to 7000 is true.

Also, is DR2 even using MT Framework?

[gamer2010]

Those games look as good as they do because of the skill of the developers that made them. They would have looked just as good on the 360. The problem is, Microsoft doesn't have many developers like that working for them.

Epic is about the only developer making 360 exclusives that has the slightest interest in pushing graphical performance on the 360. But even they don't have the kind of motivation to really maximize what the 360 can do because they aren't tied to the fortunes of the 360 the way SSM, Naughty Dog and Guerrilla are to the PS3.

Maybe we will see something out of this exclusive venture with Crytek, who knows...

What is certain is that Microsoft doesn't really have the kind of talent working on the 360 as Sony does on the PS3.

[sikbeta]

WOW! we're are making a "FFXIII" case over this game, isn't the first game that came out for the wii too? not really a OMG!-graphics showcase...

@ndibu

What do you call gimped? a LAME PORT? sorry to break your dream in which your console of choice is holly, but PS3 ports are bad not for the PS3, it's because of the Devs, they don't know the PS3 architecture or they don't Care about that, they just make a Port cos their Publishers force Devs to do it, if Publishers don't receive an incentive (aka |$|€|£|¥|¢|) to make a game shine, they don't do it....

[Moonboots]

4 years in and the same excuses..

Really? 4 years and multiplat developers are still puzzled by the cell?? We are not talking about fly by nights here. RDR and Mafia 2 just recently seem to suffer compared to their counterparts and we are talking about experienced developers here.

I'm not arguing the PS3 doesn't have power or that it has a few exclusives that rule the graphics roost on consoles but something is up here.

It gives me little comfort as a PS3 owner when multiplat after mutliplat is "lesser" on my console and have a bunch of cheerleaders telling me how great UC2, KZ2, etc are.

I know that! But exclusives aren't everything and multiplatform games make up a large part of the gaming landscape.

I've had a few instances on the 360 as well but it is nothing compared to the PS3 where even dev's come out before the game is released and say "yeah, we know it sucks on the PS3. Sorry.."

I hope it's not the case with DR2 and I sure as hell hope it doesn't bleed over to the 360 version so both look and run like ass. Then I'm going to have a big problem with these "put it on every platform under the sun" developers.

I guess I could always get the PC versions.

[bustamove]

Wow, really? Seriously...really? Right now I'm going to just shake my head at you. Running out of excuses huh? Now it resorts to blaming the PS3 for multiplatform games. If you want to play it that way...then what about FFXIII? Should I say the 360 is the reason why the graphics were gimped too?

[ndibu]

Fxiii was gimped, ON the xbox 360. The ps3 version looked great. The opposite is true about RDR, Mafia and Bayonetta. But we are talking about games that look bad across the board because they split the resources to include that difficult to develop games for hunk of junk...ps, i love the ps3, im just making a point

[Pistolero]

lmao...every time I see a comment from _crissy this is who I imagine she is... http://www.youtube.com/user...

[SkylineR]

So FFXIII was an example of Blu-Ray's benefits, so how do you explain the other shitty multiplatform ports on PS3? Red Dead Redemption, Mafia 2, etc. Most 3rd party titles look better on 360.

@Pistolero
That's a girl or...? Yikes.

[bustamove]

Cute but no. :)

Your disagrees crack me up. I stuck a nerve.

[mastiffchild]

Skyline-it's because devs making mults don't have the money or time to work properly on the PS3 so maintain their usual practises on the more similar PC and 360 dev tolls. As the only aim for parity it's bound to be harder to make the system they aren't really working in the right way look best and as it is they aren't pushing EITHER console or even trying to. there's nothing to be proved when a multi doesn't have ,making the best game possible on each platform as it's primary goal, is there?

I don't CARE if one console is more powerful than the other personally and it's a good job when multiplatform devs aren't even trying to please any of us. Thing is are they going for parity to avoid upsetting half their market or through money restrictions? the differences, apart from TOB, have been nothng to worry about anyway. Even the much hated PS3 Bayonetta port was fine-nothing to make me want to play it with a 360 pad that's for sure! These multiplat arguments hold little water while 360 AND PS3 exclusives both look better top end.

[jneul]

it was the wii that gimped us all / s
carry on with the theories, ps3 games like gow 3 and uncharted 2 are better than anything on x360 graphically and gameplay wise, not to mention story...

[ndibu]

Thats because only 1st party studios have enough resources, time and money to make ps3 games look that good. So we have to suffer for it and wait thru delays cos they trying to tinker with the ps3 version to make it less shoddy.
What 3rd party studio wants to spend millions on a ps3 game only to have it sell 1.5 million copies ala Heavenly Sword?
Instead multiplat games are gimped all across the board so that the ps3 version is not the only stinker.
The developers of Mafia, RDR, Orange Box and Bayonetta were smart and decided "to hack with it" and decided not to let the xbox version suffer.

[nveenio]

That's the problem. If they aren't going to put some effort into my game, then I don't want it. They shouldn't port it if they aren't going to make it enjoyable (graphically).

[jack_burt0n]

@ndibu
dead space, burnout, re5, bionic commando, sabotuer, darksiders, batman AA, tomb raider, ninja gaiden 2, force unleashed, star ocean, wolfenstein there are loads more

all are better on ps3, the fantasy about multiplats being the strong point of 360 is bogus.

the delusion of ppl thinking mafia is so much better on 360 is crazy play both the demo's they both run like crap and RDR still runs on ps3 at a higher rez than halo reach does on 360 lol its not worth u getting excited about.

the problem is more people need to actually play the effing games rather than ppl telling them which one runs better.

keep disagreeing :) its all true.

ghostbusters is better on 360, so is bayonetta, so is dirt 2, rainbow 6 2, AVP, assasins creed 2

[CWMR]

That's not true. Dead Space was better on the 360 and the rest of those games were essentially equal except Ninja Gaiden 2 which was better on the PS3.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
"it's very clear indeed that Dead Space is first and foremost an Xbox 360 game." "For those with both consoles, the more stable frame-rate makes the 360 build the one to have."

You just lied about a bunch a games to suit your agenda. The reality is, about 90% of the time multiplatform games DO perform better on the 360. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Corepred4]

Don't be an idiot, of course eurogamer would say that, lol that's like me pulling up a ps3 website that says dead space runs better on ps3.

[CernaML]

"it's very clear indeed that Dead Space is first and foremost an Xbox 360 game." "For those with both consoles, the more stable frame-rate makes the 360 build the one to have."
"

lol no

[Roonie]

Yeh thats why Dragon age,FF13,burnout and many more looked trash on the xbox?

till you Microboys have exclusives that even looks close to God of war 3,KZ2-3,Uncharted 1-2,GT5,Infamous 2(list keeps going) don't open your mouth.

Must be sad to be a xbox fanatics where every day living is rooting on to multiplat games and still waiting for the day that their exclusive finally surpasses Uncharted 1 in graphics......now they have lost Mass effect,Valve and bungie they've gone so low that they started gloating about "more grass" LMAO!.

I bet they lost faith and hope in xbox exclusives being able to surpass PS3....I don't blame them even teh so called "Inferior multiplats" on ps3 that they keep yapping about is running on higher resolution than their xbox EXCLUSIVES!! AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Alan 540p? Conviction 576p? halo 640p?

[Pistolero]

you dummy...dragon age and burnout looked the same on 360 and ps3...ff13 didn't look like trash on the 360 but it is true it looked better on ps3..mostly in the cgi movies.

talking about exclusives lets just say gears of war 3 looks as good as any of those ps3 exclusives. it's true microsoft need more first party so they can get more exclusives with top level graphics but it is also true that the 360 usually gets the better looking multiplats.

mgs4 and ratchet and clank are also sub hd on the ps3 so i wouldn't be talking....not to mention all the multiplats that are sub hd on ps3 but not on 360.

[Roonie]

"You dummy...dragon age and burnout looked the same on 360 and ps3"

http://au.gamespot.com/sear...

http://au.gamespot.com/feat...

look @ how washed out 360 version is even gamespot gave it a lower score.

And if FF13 didn't look trash compared to PS3 then why are microsoft fanboys making a big deal about RDR or mafia? funny thing RDR and mafia runs on higher resolution than FF13 on 360 that you deny that looks trash compared to ps3.

[Raoh]

lmfao

[earbus]

Multiplats could look better on ps3 but it takes alot of time time is money i still dont see why uncharted 2 is revered its ok i play to mutch pc i guess

[i_am_interested]

its a different engine entirely

DR1 used capcoms MT framework but DR2 doesnt because its being done by an outside developer which doesnt get access to capcoms MT framework

[Prcko]

ofc!
check exclusive games,and check multiplatform,exclsuvies are always polished and they lokks better because designers have a more time to polish the game,but in multiplatform case they just wanna fire the game out without some great polishing because they wolud need 2x time to do it!!!
And that's why i LOVE EXCLUSIVE GAMES!!!

[kasasensei]

"exclsuvies are always polished and they lokks better"
rofl. In your dreams maybe, but in reality your statement is far to represent the truth.

[Fishy Fingers]

Probably more to do with increased content and far more (incredibly slow) zombies on screen. Doesn't the game run on their multiplatform engine anyway?

[ChronoJoe]

Like saying PC holds visuals back.

Yeah, okay. Omega4 is the only one that reads this, and actually buys it. I'll be hit with Disagrees, but those people know what I'm saying is true.

[PidgeottosCrew]

Probably worse graphics, but PS3 can't be blamed. It may be more difficult to program for but it produces better results when harnessed correctly.

This is simply lazy development, similar to EA's early efforts.

[chak_]

nah, that's just consoles holding PC back.

because of console crysis 2 is not a technical jump as was its predecessor

@disagrees : sorry, forgot it was a console fans nest here, mainly PS3 eh

[ChronoJoe]

360 holds PS3 back, and both hold PC back. Since 360 is attempting some cross platform games, to the Windows phone 7, it will also most likely hold the 360 back.

Not that it matters, Sony have heaps exclusive devs willing to push the hardware to it's limit, with exclusive titles, Microsoft have a handful too. PC is kind of inconsistent, but developers always offer at least some advantages over the versions running on lesser hardware, such as improved visuals and physics. Even the very worst publishers at least offer stuff like more AA and greater output resolution.

Not that any of the individuals is necessary the best to have. That's just the order of things when cross platform developments have to target the lowest platform.

It's interesting that some developers have now switched to lead development on the PS3 though. Do they now consider the PS3 the lowest platform? I don't think so. That could be said if it was running on the same hardware architecture but it seems more of a case of wanting to get a better understanding of the complex architecture. Do the most difficult development first, and well - and the ports onto the other platform(s) will go easy.

Sorry if I said anything people don't want to hear here, though. But hey, this is just my personal opinion, and your welcome to hit disagree.

[kasasensei]

Dead rising is more detailed and polished than the first one. I guess it is normal, there is 4 years between the original and the sequel.

[Neurotoxin]

I think personally they've just gone for a different art style than the first game. Looks a lot more "Cartoony" in dead rising 2.

[Traveler]

That's what I was thinking. The biggest difference I see is that Dead Rising had more of a realistic look, while Dead Rising 2 has a more stylized or cartoony look to it.

[BDSE]

I buy multi-platform titles with multiplayer components on the PS3 as I'd rather spend that 30 or so quid a year on other games rather than online usage fees. I'd prefer it if I could just buy whatever game on whatever system it runs better on but I guess MS is sticking by their business model for better or for worse.

[stubbed_out]

Yes Dead Rising 2 is definitely getting gimped on because they're putting it on a more powerful machine...hey shit happens.

[SlickShoes]

The main difference in the video is the draw distance, things that are closer seem a lot more blurry than the 1st one. This could just be because of the "more enemies on screen" thing that causes the draw distance to shorten due to the amount of renderring of objects and NPC's compared to the first game.

[ThanatosDMC]

What i dont understand with the story is how his daughter is infected but not dead yet. It's not a virus but a worm/maggot/wasp thing that infects the person and becomes a living dead to spread more of the lifeform to other people.

Did they change it into a virus or something???

[unworthyBOZO]

Yeah go back and play Dead Rising 1 it wasn't exactly a looker and Dead Rising 2 is being developed by another developer out side of Capcom and plus it looks like dead rising 2 artstyle is changing to a more cartoony look compared to the first one. These guys need to check there sources before they play the blame game.

[ReBurn]

Ugh, the run-on sentences in that article make my head hurt. It didn't even make its point very well. Has the internet really dumbed us all down that much?

Anyway, the first Dead Rising was one of those experiences that you either loved or you hated. I happened to enjoy it quite a bit, so I'm really looking forward to this one. The only decision I have to make is whether I get Dead Rising 2 for the 360 or the PS3.

[StationPlaya]

DEAD RISING FOR XBOX WAS POWERED BY THE 'MT FRAMEWORK' (DEVIL MAY CRY 4, RE 5, ETC.) ENGINE MADE BY CAPCOM, NOW, BLUE CASTLE GAMES FROM CANADA IS MAKING IT PROBABLY WITH THEIR PROPRIETARY ENGINE.....DAMMIT SO OBVIOUSLY THIS 'NEW' ENGINE MIGHT NOT BE UP THERE WITH CAPCOM'S ALREADY PROVEN GORGEOUS GAME ENGINE, DUUUUUUUUUUH

[theEx1Le]

Billy mays mode much?

[niceguyWii3]

lol " but wait theres more!!"

[jay2]

Is the amount of Blu-ray space lost yet again due to the 360 still using DVD's, can't wait for the xboxs 50 disagrees.

[theEx1Le]

See, I don't want to be the only person stating the obvious but, when the ps3 launched it took a huge risk using Blu-ray as its media. It was almost non-existent in the market and if the gamble hadn't paid off then all these excuses about dvd9 holding Blu-ray back wouldn't exist. The fact is in 2006 DVD9 was still the option to go with, and even though I personally think MS should have taken a risk in the disc department, Sony was the one who did so and it paid off. But to continually use the space issue as an excuse that games are being held back is stupid, because no-one knew Blu-ray would take off so well. Well except Sony :P

[nickjkl]

you do know if blu ray hadnt taken off dvd 9 would still be holding it back right its not like sony would go BLU RAY failed we must go back to dvd quickly

[theEx1Le]

@nickjkl
I'm not saying that they would have jumped straight back to DVD9, I'm saying partially that you can unterstand MS taking the safe route and that if the gamble hadn't paid off on Sony's part all the arguements about space wouldn't matter. DVD9 was the option to take back then as everything supported it and it was a viable source of media storage that was cost-effective. I'm glad Sony took the risk with Blu-ray though, because we wouldn't have some of the games that we do today.
I just hope we see more leaps of faith from these console manufacturers, or else we are going to be in this situation every new generation.

[jay2]

On the flip side, had MS gone HDDVD inturneraly, Blu-ray would be struggling/dead now most likely, I feel that MS should have throught things through, if you give people an option of buying a console, then spending £120 or whatever it was for a drive on unproven media, of cause most people wouldn't buy the external drive (AKA The HDDVD add on).

[deividpaulo]

MSBOX-world.com = CREDIBILITY ZERO!!!

Everyone knows that games are downgraded to run on the XBOX360...

thanks M$ to f***cking the game market!!!

MICROSOFT = fatal error written on a blue screen

[outlawlife]

i wasn't aware dead rising was amazing graphically to begin with

anybody who has played the game knows it doesn't look as good as those screenshots they were using

[divideby0]

not good news.. if true it may not be a must buy unless CoOP totally rocks

[sedx]

don't mean to break it to you,but dead rising 2 is not out yet.

[ian72]

After watching the video, IMO Dead Rising 1 looks better than DR 2. Things far away look foggy on DR2 where as on DR1 its clearer. Also DR2 is brighter. Those are the only differences to me.

[dragon82]

So this game doesn't look as good as you think it should in a few videos and screenshots and you are blaming it on the PS3???

WOW!!!!! You fanboys need to get a life. The only reason any game should look bad on either of the two consoles is due to shitty work on the part of the devs. Both consoles are more than powerful enough to produce stunning visuals. Anything short of stunning should be blamed on the devs. At this point in the consoles life cycles there is really no excuse other than rushing the schedule or just plain piss poor managment of resources.

You can argue all you want about exclusives but at the end of the day first party studios are generally the only ones willing to put the time and effort into games to make them shine. This goes for both consoles. Personally I think all devs should be held to this standard but I understand its just not going to happen.