Xbox Live has been the core of my gaming world over the last few years, but a new challenger has risen up and threatens to steal away the attention and with it possibly many customers. That mighty challenger is none other than OnLive
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Maybbbeee in the future but I don't think it's gona happen any time soon!
Exclusives Onlive will never get God Of War or Halo or even Gran Turismo 5. Its going to be a console that runs on multiplat. Maybe if it gets popular it will force a console that want to run on multiplat to start making games, lol
as a gamer i don't wish that any "innovation" that seems "worth it" should fail... (this doesn't include kinect) But sadly i don't see any true gamer buying this over the ps3 nor the 360.. at this day and age we still like physical copies and due to the broadband issues on some cities or even in some "Apartment Complex" where they only allow you to use Charter (other sucky internet company) instead of comcast (comcast having faster speeds) will make your gameplay lag.. in the future when we have TRUE and CONSTANT download speeds of 100+mps and 50+ of upload speeds anything "internet only" is not looking very promising.. sadly i see this company going downthehill very soon after they even try to get started!
Buying it over a ps3 or 360? I agree with you people won't but it's nice to have along with a console (free year is still available). But what about Ps4 and the next generation? I think people will definitely give OnLive a shot before spending $500 on something not as reliable as they used to be.
Maybe in a country where HIGH SPEED bandwidth is actually fast and saturates the landscape. But not in America. I can also see Onlive maybe doing something second rate. Like built into your satellite/cable box and playing older games for a small monthly fee through your TV or ISP. But replacing consoles just doesn't sound right to me.
humans are very materialistic, they want to actually hold and touch the game, not download it, also with ISPs being greedy and whatnot onlive wont see the light of day, especially if you have someone wanting to download a movie while you play games
I don't believe it will.
i doubt Onlive will be in the market for very long
I see something like OnLive taking a foothold sometime in the far far future, not yet though.
It'll work better, the better the world's internet performance gets. In ten years obviously the internet performance for most countries and more developed countries will routinely exceed 50mb/s down stably i would say with superior latencies from widespread fibre optic infrastructures. Whether Onlive itself will still be around to take advantage some company will in the end. It might yet be a case of a good idea, let down by the technology being too immature just yet. In the late 90's it was really beyond anyone's idea of how the music industry would shift from physical CD media to downloads online. From say 1998 (pre napster) to 2008 did anyone forecast how massive and rapid that shift would be? The future is notoriously difficult to predict when it comes to consumer technology trends.
But can internet standards keep up with video definition standards? 1080p consumes a lot even for a 50mb line. Say the next generations standard becomes 1440, we say it doesn't matter past 1080p but irrespective 1440p is closer to realistic than 1080p, and don't tell me you believe 1080p video looks exactly as it does in real life. Onlive is kind of in a weird position right now, in my opinion. With it primarly drawing in PC gamers - with very hardcore games, all of which on PC, and the software itself being ran right now primarily of of PCs, but it only supports 720p. Do you know how bad that looks to a guy sat 2 feet away?
Generally video standards and resolutions havent advanced as far as internet speeds have in the past ten years. As such the current HD generation has a good uptake but the point here ChronoJoe really is that onlive already matches the standard CONSOLE resolution (1280 x 720) the question being asked can it replace CONSOLE gaming, not Pc gamers which generally use considerably higher resolutions. Console gamers fully accept lower resolutions, lesser graphic capability than Pc gamers. If the future target is console gamers and a box to connect to your TV, then i dont see any trouble at all with future resolution standards versus internet speed increase trends. Demand begets advances. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that. The entire world is crying out for high speed internet advances constantly, but not for lots of new high resolution video standards. Forget even landlines for a minute, what will real world performance of 4G be like for example? Latency will almost certainly be reduced massively. 4G hits next year. 5G within another 5 if the plan keeps rolling. Wireless networking will look to make great strides inside the next decade. Its likely that the next generation consoles will simply standardise 1080p for games. Of course this is mere speculation but its most likely, assuming that these machines arrive in the next two years or so we arent exactly likely see a fundamental resolution shift in that short space of time. Also we dont really know how long the next generation of consoles will last, some companies claim that it could be a very long cycle (this generation is already set to be the longest) as processor technology begins to hit the silicon barrier. Lots of variables. I personally believe however that internet speeds coupled with crucially- compression advances, inside a decade or so will be able to comfortably support 1920 x 1080 gaming on a service akin to Onlive
Were it supporting physical media as well as digital I think it could have done well. However I think the PSP go's failure speaks for itself. Digital only just allows publishers to be greedy and overcharge while buying from stores creates competition. I don't see people paying for this for long.
I just realized it would let me play StarCraft II, perhaps this is a great idea. :P
The chance to avoid hardware 'walls' when it comes to playing games is the biggest selling point for OnLive.
But then you've got something just as bad; the 'walls' that streaming presents. Compression leading to low graphics quality, lag, etc. Let's face it, OnLive is too ambitious; the internet infrastructures in most countris, while improving, have a long way to go before we can feasibly start streaming games and expect quality performance and quality.
I wouldn't have heard of Onlive unless i used sites such as this. That is why it will unfortuantely die.
Does OnLive have any Ps3/360/Nintendo exclusives?Well there goes the talk about consoles becoming obsolete.
If OnLive grew in popularity it would only be a matter of time before exclusives stopped being so exclusive.
Not 1st party, which is what make Sony and Nintendo so great and has gotten them through many years in the game industry.
Suspended for telling the truth about M$ & 360 Anyways can Onlive do Uncharted 2? if not my answer is HELL NO it's too late for a 4th gaming system on the market
Onlive will make itself obsolete.
The thing hasn't got enough support
Can you playing games offline on OnLive? Its sarcasm btw.
"will Onlive have GT5,killzone3,uncharted3,infam ous2,LBP2,etc?" "will it have 3D?" "will it have motion control games like on Move? can i keep my games if i discontinue the service? no???? then h#ll no!
I haven't seen one commercial or ad for this service. This will probably go under by next year. Most people who never frequently visit gaming sites such as this one probably never even heard of of Onlive. This service is already a failure mostly due to advertising.
Betas don't generally have advertisements.
There just doing there founding members program. Either way this thing failed.
I want to see how this thing lags so badly that people will throw it out of there window! Majority of the people can't handle there peripheral lag such as controllers,mouse etc eg:- People complaining about Killzone 2 153ms lag(i never had it).This think is going to be top of all i.e easily atleast 1 sec if you can't handle 153ms imagine 1sec. Cloud computing is future but this is to early and i can assure u it will fail hard!
So this is like streaming games. Games these days are like 8GB, like anybody except japan has a connection fast enough to stream all this data.
Streaming this is possible on a 5mb connection. Thats the minimum. Plus your probably thinking of South Korea. They have the fastest internet connections.
"Streaming this is possible on a 5mb connection." I fold. XD
Isn't this still 720p? (Can't look at the article)
Right now its all in Standard Definition, so yeah. I'm not sure how much they will be able to improve the service once the beta testing is done and based on how popular it becomes.
onlive was released on june 17 , its not in beta anymore
Its in more of a limbo state between Beta and fully functional. Like anything new they're working to improve and fix as they open up the service.
OnLive isn't going to make anything obsolete.
I can see the appeal of OnLive for some people but personally I need my physical media not to mention the need for a good and stable connection to be even able to play. Can't really see it succeeding for a good couple of years.
Onlive's ultimate failure will easily be that it got no content of its own . It would quickly die the moment ms , nintendo and sony comes up with a clone of their own , along with their exclusives games . Nor would it matter once other pc actors decides to make their box too
i hope not my internets crap
if in fact onlive does shake up the world of gaming, MS, sony and nintendo will just release their own version of an onlive type system. if anything onlive is the one thats doomed to fail: the big three have stellar exclusive games theyll be selling on this hypothetical onlive like system once they come out with them. onlive itself has ZERO exclusive games. off topic: im super new to n4g. can anyone tell me how to reply to comments that are a reply?
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Those that doubt, should try before selling it down the river..
that will be all
But...I wouldn't laugh too much. If Onlive can improve upon what is already a pretty rock solid foundation they could really be a new threat. One thing that HAS to happen for them, is they need to launch their Television Adaptor which basically would make Onlive the smallest home console on the market. I have Onlive now, and while its good it misses that on the couch factor. Its the one thing that keeps me from playing it more.
consoles for life!! onlive? pass!
I see it becoming successful in thr future but not right now. Most peoples Internet connections wouldn't be able to handle that kind of high definition streaming.
Even if we all had 10x aggregated fibre lines, it still wouldnd't come close to the computing power within a console. This has to be a joke?
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The only thing OnLive has made obsolete is itself.
I play offline most of the time . Like a 60/40 for me . 60% of the time playing offline .
I'll stick with Steam, I'd rather have my games on my HDD , and if the net goes out atleast I can play my single player games offline. Oh ya.... I don't live in America so I don't have the option anyway.
i don't want to be stuck with no games if i don't have internet or don't want to go online..No thanks.besides all the games i would miss out on..Hello No!
It won't make the console obsolete there are some people who cannot afford the net or live in an area where they still use dial up. Who still enjoy a video game console without taking it online and just play the hell out of it offline.
yeah onlive will be a huge succes, because everybody loves having the games they paid money for being held hostage for a subscription fee, and the thought that they can be taken away at any time and they would get nothing back makes them ecstatic. i will stick with my in house hardware and games on disc, or downloaded, where they will always be available whether or not i pay a subscription and whether or not my internet is working that day. of course publishers would love it, we'd never actually own the games we buy and could never trade them in, unless onlive only bought one copy of each game for each server centre.
@38 I agree but you forgot the sarcasm tag in the paragraph someone might think your serious, too many negative factors to make this even halfway appealing at least to me. @the title Consoles are still more practical, especially if your net f's up, nice idea 20-30 yrs too early to be worthwhile imo, sd content on a 40+ inch isn't a pretty sight usually. And streaming videos(i assume games would be the same), i have heard isn't anywhere near up to blu ray movie quality or game standards too much compression. So pay a subscription fee to rent games in sd definition vs playing 720p or slightly less depending on the game on the current consoles, gee hard choice. Lol good luck with getting console people to go with that, pc guys will just use steam. I know people like to scream read the article before commenting, but if the title looks/sounds like shit usually the article is just as bad, so i'm not going to waste my time reading it.
not any time soon, the internet is not fast enough nor available to the point where onlive can easily replace consoles
Just done quick info search and i came up with these scary numbers... The processing power of the current gen consoles are as follows: PS3 218 mega flops XBOX360 115 mega flops WII 2.9 mega flops If we are going to calculate the amount of processing power needed to cover all the 3 current gen users, then we need to multiply each number by the total shipped console for each of the three consoles and we will have these numbers: 37.0M x 218 MFlops = 8.066 Peta Flops 42.3M x 115.2 MFlops = 4.873 Peta Flops 73.3M x 2.9 MFlops = 0.213 Peta Flops ----------------------------- ---------- Total Peta flops needed = 7.48 PFLOPS The most powerful supercomputer to date is the Cray Jaguar which has a porcessing power of 1.759 Peta Flops. To cover all the current gen console users, 8 Cray jaguars will be needed and they will be places in different location on this planet to serve each region and to avoid lag. Politically I don't think this is a visible option of the US government to place such Super computers all around the world for gaming purposes. Secondly which is the most important aspect is the data transfer rate. the worst case scenario is to have all the 152M current gen users logged in into the service and having a peak data transfer of 51 tera bit/s assuming the streamed picture will be 720p for both xbox360 and PS3 with data rate of 440 kb/s (equivalent to 4Mbit/s ADSL connection ) and assuming SD video for the Wii with a data rate of 220 kbits/s) I really don't think this service will ever see the light, not even in 100 years. Plus, What will be the capital cost of purchasing these supercomputer when you're starting from nothing and what will be the impact on the pricing of Onlive service due to the high capital cost? References: http://www.tgdaily.com/hard... http://vgchartz.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
I think It would sell pretty well here in Sweden some ISP's is offering 300Mbits today I have myself 100/100Mbps fiber, also all broadband connections has unlimited downloads expcept Mobile. The bad were only 9 million people.
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