Two new videos emerged, showing unseen PlayStation Move gameplay footage.
I'm sure the first video was altered when he said there was a little lag?....Cant trust these videos with what happened to gt5 video which was altered?
it was slowed down to show there was lag. but the fact it had to be slowed down shows just how minute that lag is, Christ, even if you speeded up Kinect games you'd see the lag
And once again with the Kinect comparisions. facepalm/ There always has to be someone to mention Kinect in a Move article...and then when someone calls them out they justify themselves by saying that Move is always mentioned in Kinect articles. Grow up people. Move has already looks to be a fantastic product on its own..theres no need to put down Kinect in order to make Move look better(this is the way of the fanboy). "PS Move shows some signs of lag" "Bu bu bu bu bu Kinectz got MO lag" What are u guys...in preschool?? "Let them have their fun." Thats the thing. When the PS3 fanboys bash Kinect(a product that isn't even marketed towards them) there said to only be "having fun". Yet, when the 360 fanboys bash the Move..there called "idiots" and "retards". Both groups are complete ignoramuses in my eyes, but a little balance on this site would be good for everyone. Its one big double standard. Its more accepted on this site to bash Kinect than it is to bash Move. And heres the kicker.. I guarantee that 90 - 95% of the people who bash either Move or Kinect haven't played either :)
Let them have their fun. I love how after swatting virtual bugs for a minute the one guy is winded. Edit: All the fanboys on this site are retarded, I wasn't specifically talking about one group.
deadreckon, i think ME was great and Gears was too, i think MS marketing is better than Sony's, but i can't think of anything good to say about Kinect because it's the biggest con in gaming history. when lag is the issue, drawing a conclusion from both is inevitable edit: Psfan got disagrees for saying that!!?? lol oh boy
I just love how there is all this Move footage out there and none of it ends up on Youtube as fail videos unlike.. Kinect Here are two links to youtube searches. The first is "Playstation Move Fail" http://www.youtube.com/resu... "Kinect Fail" http://www.youtube.com/resu...
@D4RK http://www.youtube.com/watc... It's the same guy that made the apocalyPS3 panic video. He made an RROD video as well. xD http://www.youtube.com/watc... - RROD http://www.youtube.com/watc... - ApocalyPS3 Found these from your top search link.
Move looks fantastic and it is looking to be a serius contender for my money.
He gave the party game 5 stars, are these guys easily impressed or what. I hope there are more titles coming at launch for move, because all of the titles that they demoed were LAME. Talking about shovel ware; that stuff was pure crap. I wish they would show some videos of these hardcore games that are suppose to be move compatable. Let's see resident evil, and something other than this shovel ware. Sony also needs to release a move bundle for people that already has the PS-Eye, perhaps Move with Nav Controller instead of camera.
They're talking about the competition? Boo hoo hoo. Admit it, you're just mad that they're taking shots at Kinect, an Xbox 360 peripheral.
Deadreckoning And once again Dead to the rescue. You are getting soooo predictable man. What are you the ambassador of MS and the anti-Ps3 fanboy or something? Why not compare the two? They are in direct competition with each other. When you shop for a car don't you compare it to other makes and models and other brands?
So what happens if there is more than 2 people playing does it triple and quadruple the input lag? That is a major concern for me.
As a reply to cliffbo: "Kinect because it's the biggest con in gaming history" Let's not forget about this gem: http://www.youtube.com/watc... It's something lots of gamers have been waiting for.
@deadreckoning666 Hey dude, why you care anyway, some dudes here keep defending kinect like if it's perfect and when someone try to prove them wrong, they throw the "upcoming" sales [?], it makes you understand that they don't care about motion-controls or the such, they just want MS to "win", but hell, kinect or any peripheral are not the "option" to make them believe their console manufacturer can "win"
BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH FUCKIN MOTION CONTROL ON 2! COMPETING CONSOLES ! gtfo of your dream world were nobody is allowed to compare shit itl be diff if they werent both motion control
the potential of the move is incredible. many may see it as nothing more than a wii port. but with the right developers this thing could really shine.
yawwn... we all know its gonna bomb like most PS products
yeah sony needs to learn how to make a good product because a console that has a 55% failure rate,the zune, laggy kinect and vista are garbage.... oh wait.
Thanks for your contrabution to this topic I dont know what we would have done with out your input.. Lame
all they did was add a link you youtube videos i already saw
Wii + in HD. "Kinect just reinvented the wheel" I guess that's better than just copying it. Show me something major that move does that Wii + can't.
Real games and precision. There... two major things that neither Wii nor Kinect can do.
So "precision" that was coined with Wii + and "real games". Like I said, nothing new.
I dont see how move is much better than Kinect except to say that i havent seen the games that Move will support yet. Im not much for any of this motion control stuff anyway.
cant wait to buy this
Move has already proved to me it's worth the price for admission.
I'm not convinced I'm just going to stick with the good old remote.
Start the Party had 6 out of 5. Reviewing Demos?
Im pumped for start the party. it looks amazingly fun and this is the game that sony needs to show when they demo the move nationwide in a few months.. Dont get me wrong sports champions looks awesome and im definitley getting that also. But when people see start the party and the augmented reality, they will see something totally new and fresh thats not found on the wii and it will appeal to everyone.
i think the move is too pricey,does look fun thought. What would be the price for 2 ppl with the complete set?.I will get kinect ive like what i seen so far,i think Kinect is set at a good definite price,the move i have no clue how much id pay in total before a game or two.Id also have to get a PS3 lol,ill deff have one by the time star wars comes on bluray since my girl will donate blood to have those.
You are Clueless about Move and especially the big Variety of Games for Move.
Worse use of the English language I've seen in a while.
Oh the irony!
the fact it had to be slowed down to show input lag,.. impressive,..I am getting this for shooters,.. might work even better than mouse because it has no traction,..
While playing using mouse/keys I'm a much better player I stropped using them a while ago- esp for shooters. The main reason was to move my online gaming onto consoles where I think it's a slightly more level playing field(everyone has the same tech, same pads-no arms race to buy latest/best/most speedy/accurate gamning mouse etc- and there's less opportunity or using console mods to your advantage etc)than on PC but ALSO I was starting to find using a mouse/keys a bit too good tbh. It started interfering with immersion within the game both on and offline, for me. I could just do things a little TOO well, TOO fast etc and it bordered on the superhuman(for my character) when that shouldn't, or felt like it shouldn't be the case. The other reason I find it a little off putting in this respect, though, again, still THE most effective control method for shooters, is that you're aiming on a different pane to the one you're watching and it can feel a little bit more disconnected to me. So, makes things a little unrealistically quick and easy at times and can also be a physically more removed way to game in my eyes as well. Possibly only me who feels this way-though I'm sure others share my views that(and I KNOW cheats and inequality is present in console gaming, i'm just saying there's fewer opportunities for it on consoles)console online offers a more level playing field in general. I don't think there are MOREW cheays in PC gaming either-just many more ways you can have an edge or start at a disadvantage. Basically, I'm saying that the more important issue isn't always total performance for everyone and other things are important when thinking about the merits of a controller or control scheme. So, whether the Move/motion controllers can ever compete with mouse for accuracy and speed is unlikely in my view,(even without friction)mainly because a mouse is so steady leaning on a hard surface that it should eliminate most "hand tremble" misses etc, they may well prove near to them on this score AND more immersive than either pad OR mouse for a number of gamers. One thing I DO feel, though, is that online matches shouldn't allow for mixed control schemes if possible as UT3 on PS3 really taught me pad and mouse gamers shouldn't mix as it's not anywhere near a fair fight.
My roommate and I decided that I buy the Move bundle and he buys RE5: Gold Edition, Dead Space 2 and The Fight when that comes out. We got a suite at school so we have the room for all of it. Should be fun!
Guys, the reason input lag is shown is because the cursor wouldn't shake and be all over the place. Wouldn't be that nice for a menu cursor. As the ps3 move devs explained in some vid-interview was that smoothing out the cursor to make it easier for casuals to get started playing. When the player is more used to the controller you'd might be able to turn off that handicap. Its up to the developers to make these choices. But I'm not saying the move is without input lag. It's claimed to me 22ms or so. And you also have to include the latency of the television. My point is also not to judge input lag out of a menucursor, try the real aimpoint in games itself =)
The bigger problem was the lag when using two controllers in The Shoot. Hopefully that's a processor issue that can be ironed out with optimisation.
A disagree? Haha, it says right in the review that the lag increased when a second player entered the Shoot.
You're absolutely right. Accelerometers create TONS of noise. One of the simplest ways to smooth that out is by creating two cursors. One is actual position, and the other is displayed position. The program constantly moves the displayed cursor toward the actual cursor (which is hidden) using an easing algorithm. It assures that the movement of the cursor is always super smooth, but there is lag with large or quick movements. The benefits outweigh the negatives, however.
love the silence during kung fu rider lmao i know the launch/party type titles are budget price but that game could easily be released on psn for what it is imo. Anyway still trying to decide on whether or not buying move at launch is worth it. Was only really interested in socom4 and now that's been delayed
Big difference MOVE : Multiplay keep buying additional accessories costing 100s more KINECT: One time purchase no need for controllers anyone can join in the fun. Big difference PSFanboys: blind as bats when it comes to sony. EVen if sony drops ps3 tom they will pray to sony everyday cuz sony can't do no wrong 360Fanboys: Realistic people and actual gamers who can still except shortcomings of their chosen hardware and have no blind loyalty towards MS.
"360Fanboys: Realistic people and actual gamers who can still except shortcomings of their chosen hardware and have no blind loyalty towards MS." Yeah, set yourself up for more failures by MS. Have excuses ready for the anticipation of Microshaft's faults and errors. Nice. And no blind loyalty? That statement itself makes you a blind loyal dog to MS.
KINECT: Anyone can join the fun? Er, isn't it two players max? To get two MOVE players going (in the UK at least) equals £115 INCLUDING non-essential items like the Navigator, dumbkopf! If you use your DS pad it's £85. KINECT currently stands at £129. And 360Fanboys are "Realistic people"?? Oh dear lord... You're contemptuous generalisations display both your "blind loyalty" and downright hypocrisy in one fell swoop.
No doubt you were one of the people who said the 360 was a lot cheaper than the ps3. PS3: One time purchase with no need to pay extra for online play, or wifi etc. 360: Keep having to buying additional things costing 100s more. Funny when things change around what people have to say... Not even gonna bother pulling you up on the ignorance of your comments on fanboys. Possibly the most idiotic comment I've seen on n4g...and that's saying something.
sak : fanboy in denial living in opposite world (like all the Xmulti accounts here)
"360Fanboys: Realistic people and actual gamers who can still except shortcomings of their chosen hardware and have no blind loyalty towards MS." oh jesus mary joseph rolflmaooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo
Big difference M$$ Fanboys: blind as bats when it comes to M$$. EVen if M$$ drops the xbox tom they will pray to M$$ everyday cuz M$$ can't do no wrong PS3 Fanboys: Realistic people and actual gamers who can still except shortcomings of their chosen hardware and have no blind loyalty towards Sony.
There is yet another problem whit vids like this showing delays between hardware>Tv.. in this case caused by the tv itself. I can only talk about samsung's flat led tv cus i had/has own 2 of these. when connected directly by hdmi there's a signifcant delay. when playing single player you almost cannot se it, but playing online you will be killed alot often because of the delay caused by the picture optimising processing in tv. In samsung's led tv there is an option in the "menu>plug&play> ;general>Game mode" should be set to game mode on > should eliminate the lag (from console to tv) by turning off picture processing and feet the tv whit direct signal. I belive this is a problem from most tv's because of processing the signal for optimising picture for perfection. I think this is the delay you see in thease vids..
sak500 that is the stupidest thing any one has said here. Is that a joke? 360 people are realistic and except shortcomings? Are you saying that you basically bend over and let Microsoft screw you however they want? They handed you a system where about 30% of them died. They took three whole years to fix it. And the moment they made a slim version you people ran headlong into buying one with your eyes closed. Please,if you have nothing relevant to the conversation be slient please. We are talking about Move in here. MOVE IT!!!!!!!
well when we played on sports champions 2 player you could not even notice the lag, so I'm guessing it down to each game how it is coded, table tennis was very smooth and picked up our fast moves with precision, but come September I will be able to try out the rest of the demo's and give you non-biased feedback:):)
Move looks neat. My Family's going to love it.
you have to try it out for yourself, when i do that i will decide.
I like casual gaming almost as much as I love Core games. But PS Move kills Kinect(even on casual gaming) since majority of the games look a lot more fun. Dance Central looks cool, but the PS Move got DDR w/ Move and Singstar +Move, and also Dance Central might get ported to PS Move. A Star Wars game on Move will blow Kinect out of the waters(also SC II)
...some of those games were rank. Reminded me of some of the paper thin games released for the EyeToy but now they control it using the move. I am looking forward to games like Sorcerer but only The Shoot caught my interest in those videos.
The guy said they found lag when there was two of them playing on that game.but why didnt they show that.cos i watched all the gameplays ive not noticed one slow up. there is lag in that lights out. but that could be corrected by time its out. EDIT MY LAST POST. HAVING JUST RE LOOKED AT THE VIDEO. I HAVE TO ADMIT THERES A SLIGHT DELAY. but nothing to worry too much. whats happened here is the guy has took the clip out looped it to show us joined it back in the footage .but the delay isnt on a game im gonna play on. however if you really want to be blinded by this.then lets make somert up say. hey the dudes got two motion controllers right? so what if one guy is messin with the other in the background. come on as i said ive seen plenty of games compared to the kinnect this still rocks im still buying it.fake or not.
I'll stick to Wii thanks.
And yet I don't see why that's such a problem for those who disagreed.
If i were to buy move etc. Would probably be, sorcery,start the party, the shoot. I'm sure some of the tiny lag issues will be sorted, as these are not finished products from what i've heard.
dont worry guys, after attending the ps beta rooms event in birmingham the other week i can tell for certain that MOVE has NO lag AT ALL. I was going to upload a vid playing The Fight (i think its called or something like that) and i was impressed with the response, every game demoed there with move worked well (Heavy Rain Move was amazing!) and has convinced me to buy day 1! dont listen to the 'laggy' crap people WHO HAVENT USED IT are saying.
i noticed there was no lag at all when they were demoing the paint program
i have a ps3 and xbox and if i wanted this motion control crap, i would have just bought a wii, i think motion control sucks, what is wrong with the good old controller,
What is with you people & this wii controller comparison crap? Honestly I have a wii and am still getting move for PS3 cause in all honesty, I hate my wii controller- the precision is ass & fustrating mostly & constantly buying new batteries is a bit*h. For all other games that require no motion controller input (Smash Bros. Brawl, etc.) I love its unique feel and intuentiveness (dont know whether thats a word?) :P Now i can get the best of both worlds. :)
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