Why the PlayStation 3's free online service could lead to it getting more exclusives from third party developers.
Indeed it could.
I agree. Xbox Live day by day is becoming less and less worth while your money as PSN is catching up to its features. PSN early days was just utter crap but to this day its improved alot. PS3 gamers play free online isn't time for Xbox 360 gamers to also play free rather then getting scamed yearly paying £40 a year. Same time PSN players are playing for the exact same thing! Xbox gamers should stop paying and start a petition or somthing lol. Its about time Xbox live should go free. Gameplay should be free but all other extras people can pay for it they want. Someone start a petition.
and they are pretty much the same thing now except party chat lol. it's all about preference now.I'm getting all my multiplatform games on my ps3 from here on out, especially if they have multiplayer in them.
PS3 has so much exclusives and alot more are still coming
Same as me PSN & Xbox Live! But Really on Xbox live I just playing Halo Reach for 5 years! Lol i made a thread on xbox forums haha http://forums.xbox.com/3380... come on add party chat then Xbox gamers will raise some eyebrows...lol thinking what....what we paying for?!
@noble id rather xbox gamers stay on the xbox
You're already playing with both most people seem to own both consoles now adays, well at least most of my friends do now.
But cross game invites and the party system in general With 360 you can start a party and invite all of those ppl into your game (and into your squad for some games). With PSN I find myself having to boot up the game, then goto its multiplayer section in order to invite anyone in and they have to be playing the game also in order to accept the invite. Maybe I am just missing something though I really wish the PSN had a system where you could send invites as part of the OS messaging system rather than on a per game basis. It's not the end of the world (you can just send some people regular messages telling them to meet you in LBP or UC2) But it would be much easier if this was all fully integrated into the OS the way 360 has it set up.
An example: ModNation Racers. That game was projected to be multiplatform, but United Front Games decided to develop exclusive for PS3, because Online is free and sharing is free.
...and I want to buy MNR eventually but have been saving most of the year for a big fall10 and winter11 game explosion that's going to happen. It sucks that I cannot support MNR but I really do want to.
if LBP was on xbox. M$ would MAKE people pay per level they play/make OR just make you pay a yearly sum...
From one gamer to another I highly reccommend modnation racers. Most underrated game I have ever played. I got over 100 hours in it.
...everybody I know that has the game absolutely loves it.
The game is crazy addicting. I don't know anyone that has it and doesn't like it, just people that won't buy it because they think it's too kiddie. Everyone should try this game.
What a bullshit article, Lives online fee wont lead to any PS3 exclusives from third party Dev's. Dev's have to pay for their own match making servers on PSN on Live they don't. So really its cheaper to have an online game on Live then PSN. All it takes is for some fanboy site to write an article with no facts and a ill informed opinion and everyone believes it, how ignorant can you get. BF 1943 didn't have any problems selling on the 360.
It's easy to spot a person who hasn't read an article. If you read the article you would realise that they didn't mention anything about development costs. Also if an indie developer choose to go execlusive with the PS3, sony pays for the development costs.
Maybe you should read the article because its about multi player only games wont reach as big of an audience on Live and that Lives fees would discourage third party publishers from making online only games for the 360. Its not talking about indie games except for a short mention of Steam works that no one knows anything about or how it will work on the PS3. And even so look at all the arcade and indie games that are Live enabled for the 360, then look at the games on PSN that have co-op and multi player that a are not online enabled. The pixel junk games for example. That is what the Xbox Live fee is for, it goes toward paying for match making servers for big and small companies, even for the little guy that made an indie game by himself. On PSN any body that Sony doesn't publish has to to either host or rent servers for match making.
"so why has Sony kept online gameplay free, even though they could charge for it like Microsoft and rake in a few million dollars?" Because Sony started off with free online with the PS2, Xbox was never free. If Sony was to change up and charge now, they would piss off and probably lose A LOT of fans, especially considering a lot of PS3 only users say they would never pay to play online. As far as PSN being free leading to more content and exclusives, it is certainly possible, but you could say the same for XBL. Could XBL being a paid service offer more to developers because XBL profits could be used to further advance XBL offering even more possibilities, sure. @Newtype - Yes it has, XBL has came a long way since it first started on the original Xbox, and even further with the 360. There have been countless new features added, and even with a more recent one like ESPN on XBL. Developers could find a way to use ESPN on XBL to further advanced sports games, as an example.
that has never happened, so no.
It has happened and will continue to do so. Remember, XBL (360) was limited in what it could offer due to compatibility issues with XBL on the original Xbox. As that is no longer a problem, expect to see more interesting things being done with XBL in the future (and then copied by Sony).
"XBL profits could be used to further advance XBL offering even more possibilities" that hardly ever happpens, MS usualy spends their profits on Timed exclusives or Expensive ads. just like they spent countless millions on GT4-episodes, and just like they are spending now on HaloReach ads. if MS were using profits to bring out more games then there would be alot more exclusives coming out this year and the next.
Not that I'm looking forward to it, but I'm sure all the funds that come from live definitely helped fund the kinnect project and all of the software they have been working on for kinnect.
Wat u say its utter bullsh**t.Sony Doesnt Copy anything M$ Copies Everything.Game Example SCARP METAL!!! They (M$) Copied From Twisted Metal.
They BOTH copy a ton of stuff. To expect a company not to copy successful aspects or products is insanity. Every company on earth gets inspiration from what is currently available.
Trust when I say that ps3 fans, would pay if sony charged to play online. If that was the only way you could play uc2,killzone,warhawk etc, which it is. They would definitely be paying. They wouldn't be happy about it but would happen. All sony has to do is implement a nice little voice chat system and bam 3-5 dollars a month in their pocket.
Man, I hope so. There's so many amazing games that came out already. I haven't even beaten them all! :[ Goddamn Blazblue CS. >:[ The game is like crack at times.
That's why I own Modern Warfare 2 & many other MP titles on the PS3. Free Online Gaming FTW! :) Screw Microsoft with their $50/£50 a year gold subscription, Ditched 'em a long time ago. I only play Singleplayer games on my 360 Elite from here on out. :D
I only play multi-player now and again, and because its free. Wouldn't be worth me paying to play online as I don't go online enough. I'm more of a single player gamer.
You and me both. $50 a year is nothing to me but I stopped paying for Live because I hardly used it. PSN does just fine for me.
Am I the only one who thinks this article is a few years late? I mean, PS3's had some exclusives. Whether or not they relate to the free online, I don't quite know. I seriously feel this would have been better if it were released around the birth of the PS3. Unless... I just... Step into a wormhole.... And was sent back... 3 years?!
a damned handsome avatar you have there. :]
not only PSN is free but through the years it has become the best online gaming service platform & when PS4 comes out with all its new features its going to be impossible to Beat PSN.
No one is forcing you to like xbl, but to say that PSN is better is rediculous. The same quality...sure, if you want...but not better. Stop being dumb. I am happily paying for xbl. It's not overpriced and has not increased in price once in 7 YEARS?!?! IT still is integrated better with the 360 has cross game chat. These two reasons don't justify $50 a year, but the amount of friends on XBL and games such as Gears and Halo make the $4.17 a month pretty bearable. If you can justify paying $50 a year for $1.50 discounts and free games that you wouldn't be interested in without some sort of deal, then I just don't see how you can question anyone's reasoning behind subscribing to XBL.
You are not allowed to tell someone to stop being dumb after you say "rediculous". That is just ridiculous. It is also ridiculous that would think its okay to pay for something that should be free because the price hasn't increased. Let me guess... it is also okay to buy something that breaks most of the time because they will fix it for free? mm'kay.
Your clearly missing the point: PSN is Free Online Gaming for all PS+ is an optional paid service, notice the word OPTIONAL.
It is optional but if you are willing to pay for PS+ when it may not be worth the $50, then why is it so terrible to pay for XBL when comparing what you get for each Optional paid service is NO DOUBT better than required paid service, but if I signed up for PS+ knowing that it wasn't worth the $50, It would be hypocritical of me to rag on XBL for what is offered (free online or not) for that same price.
@ps360, oh ? i did'nt know that xbl fee give you free games, betas, discounts, etc. ps+ cost you anything (more, you earn money) when you add all the things you have for free in one year (but you have to be a regular gamer, casuals don't have to pay for things they don't use) @bellow, fanboyz see fanboyz everywhere, they are so biased than anyone else with other opinion, even if it's just facts, is a fanboy. "bububu you are a fanboy" "but it's a fact, the truth, check articles, numbers, etc...what can i do ?" "bububu you are a fanboyz because you don't think like me, bubble" @cgoodno "The 360 has a fairly closed system that supports their core game services and is why their online gaming is the best out there on the consoles right now" keep dreaming, "closed" is not better, you can't have user content (like lbp, unreal, modnation, etc), and servers are only for ps3 (and better than p2p. by the way, the very little more success of mw2 on xbox, is nothing more than the expression of : less good games, more call of nooby players, ps3 is way more profitable now for devellopper publisher for most of the other games, EA and others are now doing ps3 the console of choice, not because they like sony more, just because ps3 gives them more money $.
@Pennywise When did I say that it is okay to pay for something because the price hasn't changed. I'm adding the point that the price hasn't changed...EVEN THOUGH the service has become exponentially better since launch. Is that spelled out for you better? If you are going to be THAT guy who calls someone out for mispelling a word atleast be able to pass 5th grade reading comprehension. And how does XBL being compared with something that breaks all the time make any sense. Or are you just trying to bring up the RROD because that is all you can do? Edit: I forgot...you are the PS3 fanboy with 2 bubbles. Now it all makes sense.
Yeah, just because I disagree with you I am a PS fanboy. I am so sick of you lamers that use that phrase as some sort of reason to disregard what I say. So, I own a PS3 and I really don't see a need for a 360(Nice PC). So that makes me a PS fanboy... whatever. You have one more bubble than me... only reason I have two bubbles is the mods don't like me and I call out hypocritical people like YOU. I don't care about bubbles. Don't talk to people about 5th grade reading when you can't spell. BTW, get a browser with a spell check. You aren't even smart enough to do that.
@ Pennywise You are what you are. Just accept/admit that you are a PS3 Fanboy We all know you are even if you can't/won't admit it. My words are the truth and I know it hurts.
@ ukilnme ~ Pot meet kettle.../rollseyes
If sony was charging for psn as it is, the same amount that ms charges I doubt it would be succesful. The only reason psn is so appealing, is because there is no fee but if you put the same price tag on it xbox live comes out on top.
Does the Xbox have any online only games?
I can't think of any. I think it would be hard since they would have to put on the box "You can not do anything in this game without a paid Live subscription"
Which I believe doesn't require XBL though it has a subscription. Is the only MMO game on the system which does that, which s causing problems with other MMOs that might come to the 360 since MS is insisting on XBL.
I wanna say shadowrun but not 100% sure, either way crappy game no one even thinks about anymore
xbox live has ads in it people still have to pay to play online?
MS makes more money that way and doesn't care what you think about it (as long as you keep paying) It upsets me that there are people out there who don't know that MS charges for what Sony gives for free.
Keep pretending that the ads are some kind of hinderance. Suppose you pay for Playstation the Magazine. Are you outraged because there are still ads in it?
The point is MS is being extremely unnecessarily greedy. They not only charge to play online, something free everywhere else but are also generating money from ads. So they are making money from corps. and fans while offering little in return. Does MS offer more exclusives? no. Does MS have the most dedicated servers with higher player counts? no. MS charges an online tax with ad support and show little in return.
Your comparing 2 different things: Magazines are always gonna have some type of advertisements in them regardless; even strategy guides have some type of advertisements on the inside covers. Also it's to help cut the cost of printing which is understandable. Live do advertisements because they know a lot of people will buy what they don't need then later argue how "justified" paying for a map pack to a non existent game is the right choice. My biggest piss off was advertising live straight from them for $49.99 with credit card, and made it sound like you "had" to have it right then, through them to play online.
""Magazines are always gonna have some type of advertisements in them regardless; even strategy guides have some type of advertisements on the inside covers" That statement doesn't justify anything. How are they different. They are two services providing you with a product. They both are there to make profit and they both do make a profit. An part of magazine production is printing, and as you said, the ads in magazine help offset some of that cost. Running XBL has requires certain costs that a magazine inherently wouldn't have. If those ads are meant to offset some of those cost, how are those ads any different. "Live do advertisements because they know a lot of people will buy what they don't need then later argue how "justified" paying for a map pack to a non existent game is the right choice. " They do advertisements because companies pay them to have their products advertised. Just like a magazine. And I can hardly get mad at MS for advertising a map pack to a game that may or may not be played online by a lot of people a year after I see the ad. PSN advertises for map packs when they get released. You are telling me that they know for a fact that the game they are advertising the map pack for will still be around later on?
"PS3's Free Online Could Lead to More Exclusives" And i still do not understand why sony and the main publishers do not push the button on this point. That is one of the biggest advantage of the ps3, and sony does not really profit from it... There is a lot of people, who bought a 360 before the ps3, and some of them just do not know the online is free on this one.
Kind of a flawed article, IMHO. So, games with a focus on multiplayer only experiences will be encouraged to go exclusive on the PS3 only because it's free, yet the 360 has the largest community of online players among the 3 current generation of consoles? And the sales of MW2 just prove that going multiplayer-centric is way more profitable for the developers/publishers on the 360 since they the players that tend to buy these sort of games. Looking at the reasons for why MMOs aren't going for the 360 has nothing to do with whether or not it costs money to play online, it's just about the flexibility in delivering the massive amount of content updates and managing servers and similar material. The 360 has a fairly closed system that supports their core game services and is why their online gaming is the best out there on the consoles right now. It unfortunately is not one that supports the few requirements of the few MMO games that want to make console ports of their primarily PC games. Honestly, Microsoft's method is a smart one since it allows them to continue delivering the best multiplayer experience with games that you typically buy about one of every three months. That's a lot of money for both MS and the developers since the developers know that a good portion of the 360 users are going to buy their multiplayer games.
Although I don't support Xbox Live anymore I have to say you comment is well said. Bubble to you.
well written article. free=freedom, paid=non-freedom. free will always attract people no matter what it is.
Considering that the PS3 has so far proven to hacker free where on the 360 piracy is an ongoing issue, yet devs still give it preferential treatment because it less of a hassle to program for, I don't see PSN being that much of a factor.
do what you want with your money and stop arguing like someones comment is going to change your mind or vice versa i own both, I pay for live and I dont pay for PS+, and I am a happy gamer
once PSN adds cross game chat there will be no reason to pay for Xbox Live
so chat is worth $50 a year ? lol...
but all my friends who only game on the 360 are worth the 50.00 a year.
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