If you're clamouring for Rare to return to its hardcore ways, you may wish to look away now. The UK studio has revealed that, since being snapped up by Microsoft in 2002, its remit has been to give Xbox "a softer face".
Waste of money. Buying Rare was almost as useless as someone buying Insomniac games. For what? Why? They don't own anything they've ever worked on. Well, that's not true, at least Rare owns "Some" of their work. Banjo, Killer Instinct and I believe they own Battletoads still. So they are better than Insomniac.
They own Conker,Kameo, Grabbed by the ghoulies, jet force gemeni and perfect dark as well. The only franchises they don't own are Goldeneye and Donkey Kong. I don't agree that buying Rare was a waste of money, but the way Microsoft used to studio is sickening. Rare should have been one of their number 1 hardcore 1st party studios along with Bungie.
Should have, but Bungie is gone and no longer a first-party studio. [On topic] Rareware was the bomb. And they weren't exactly soft. They made Killer Instinct and Golden Eye. I don't exactly like the direction that Microsoft has taken Rare. Even their logo has changed to something that looks like a prescription drug logo.
I shed a tear for Rare
But what's the point of owning all of those franchises if you don't have the talent to produce new properties from them? And how many times does it have to be pointed out that Bungie left. That while Rare stayed, the people who made it got shoved out the door.
Rare does it to them selves don't blame microsoft if they really were pushed to thing like kinect and they didn't like it. There would be a great amount of devs quitting rare like what happened to infinity ward. The rare we all knew is died and only good and proper sequel to a old ip can revive them.
How have they not made another Jet Force Gemini yet? That game was awesome (except for the collection which prevented me from actually beating it).
What Microsoft did to Rare is a damn shame. One of the best developers of the 16-bit and 32/64-bit era was turned into garbage.
anyone find it funny how Microsoft had their best generation this gen but also doomed them selves for future generations i mean come on everyone knows their tricks and they lost bungie without halo i dont think the 360 would have even sold that much i cant wait till next gen so we can start the console wars over again i hope sony comes up with another expensive hardware since it will be packed with technology
How can Rare be "better" than Insomniac without putting out a blockbuster this gen? Do you REALLY want to count who put out MORE "AAA" games? On a side note, why are you always the ultra fanboy commenting first. Not to mention your little snide jabs at anything sony or semi-sony related
I don't know who is better, but imo the resistance games arent AAA and neither is ratchet they are good games, but not AAA. I'd say rare and imsomniac are about the same. Kameo was a good game, the viva pinata series is also good they are just very different flavors than what most of the "hardcore" would like.
i'd have to say your wrong. Resistance is an excellent game. and the ratchet series have always been great
am i the only one who enjoyed perfect dark zero?
"I don't know who is better, but imo the resistance games arent AAA and neither is ratchet they are good games, but not AAA. I'd say rare and imsomniac are about the same" i totally disagree, while i agree resistance/R&C are perhaps not AAA, rare really have not come close, kameo was average, viva is okay but thats it, worst part is it looks like MS are just gonna use rare for kinect games which is just a waste im almost 100% sure resistance 3 is gonna get the PS3 exclusive help it may need from other sony devs, also, atleast insomniac have done hardcore as well as casual games unlike rare who have done casual junk since microsoft acquired them
b4 you comment.
MS can buy who ever they want but they will have only one face in my opinion. And it's not pretty. http://images.lazygamer.co....
If you think Rare even compares to Insomniac, you're deluded. Even the most gargantuan of M$ fanboys would disagree with you.
How's that working out for you, Rare?
despite the fact that you guys are being abandoned by MS for a wider audience, and you guys settling for multiplat games, which isn't bad but they don't make your console unique. And how the tables have turn ounce again: 1st you guys had the best looking game on the market, 2nd you was outselling the ps3 worldwide, and 3rd the kinect is utter trash, proof, Have a buddy over, and pretend with your arms out, playing fm3, for 3laps. you guys have at least 3 games left on your system. Halo reach, Geow3, and the next Mass effect.
they also left MS with softer, more lightweight wallet :P
They could have just used clever marketing and a catchy new slogan to do that.
...was actually a pretty good game.
But nothing compared to the 64 games. N&B was easily the worst in the series.
That isn't exactly a bad thing since the others were so good. I actually really enjoyed Nuts and Bolts and most people are just passing on it for stupid reasons. I think the main problem is people are too busy living in the past, or so to speak. You need to get over the fact that Rare are not the same as they used to be so quit your whining.
Guess that means the rare of old will never be back. Such a shame.
Didnt the majority of the Rare big guns leave a long time ago? They havent been close to their best for years.
You want the Rare of old? Play Haze... OH WAIT-- XD
to add them to their RICH library of studios /s
When they bought Rare Microsoft did have a rich library of studios, FASA, Ensemble, Digital Anvil, etc were household names for PC gamers. FASA was/is still well known in the table top RPG crowd as well as various other industries. Rare has potential to make great games but Microsoft really isn't giving them the support they need. Guerrilla is a great example, before Sony they really didn't make the best games. Killzone was ok but with Killzone 2 they got the support they needed and turned out an amazing game as a result.
ACES closure was the worst for me, due to the Flight Simulator software being awesome... what a senseless closure, the studio was making good profit constantly.
Dang, can't believe I forgot to list ACES! That was Microsoft's oldest game development studio by decades. Made some fantastic games too that sold really well, can't figure out the closure myself either.
Microsoft took gold and turned it into mud. They should have let Rare keep working for Nintendo. I would have prefered that. Never will forgive Microsoft for doing this. I loved Banjo Kazooie.
Nintendo sold their half of Rare too, and why would Microsoft let a studio they own work on a direct competitors console? There is no logic there, Rare did do GBA/DS stuff with THQ but Microsoft isn't in the gaming handheld space.
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise is an absolute gem. A very fun, original and creative game. Kameo and Buts & Bolts were good as well. Plus I can now play Banjo 1 & 2 and Perfect Dark on my Xbox 360.
when you work with microsoft, they screw the game developers and leave them to die like they are out in the Sahara desert lol.
Microsoft should have let Rare do it's thing. They could have made a new IP for Microsoft akin to Sony's Ratchet and Clank, or Nintendo's Super Mario Bros. Banjo and Kazooie Nuts and Bolts was alright, but Rare could have made an exceptional new IP for Microsoft, and no, Kinect Sports does not freaking count. Kameo and Perfect Dark: Zero were both decent games, but come on! Kameo was a new IP, but 5 years later there is yet to be a sequel. Too bad Rare can't do Donkey Kong games for Microsoft, that would be epic. Rare is not the same, they were one of the best but have been ruined by Microsoft, and now all that talent and imagination is being wasted. Rare is dead, long live Rare.
Banjo-Kazooie could easily have been Rare's answer to Ratchet and Clank, although since Banjo came first I think it would be the other way around. Nuts & Bolts was a great game though, it added new elements to the game and had plenty in it as a love letter to Rare fans.
they're not dead, they're making kinect/avatar games, OH SHI-
they are microsoft's little kinect puppets now.
Take a look at these Perfect Dark Zero Renders from 2002 for the Gamecube. http://perfectdark.retropix... Rare had enough chances.
sony bought rare, even if the talent still left sony could atleast make squeals to the few games rare still own now rare have been reduced to casual crap
So they can make crap after a few good titles.
And MS ruined Rare's rep for making AAA games. Imagine MS game 50 mill to Rare to make another Perfect Dark instead of paying for times exclusive DLC.
The thing I can't understand I can see MS wanting Rare to bring in new gamers with Rare making Casual games. But that does not mean that Rare had to cancel all of Rare's gamer games. So I hope MS will allow Rare to make games like Perfect Dark & Killer Instinct again.
if ninteno still owned Rare there wold be some kick ass games from rare
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