Sony Europe boss Andrew House has claimed that sales of PlayStation Move are going to "explode in the next 12 months" - but revealed that 3D's success will be judged on a longer lifecycle.
(Sony Europe boss Andrew House has claimed that sales of PlayStation Move are going to "explode in the next 12 months") I hope so. @blumatt : Yes Sorcery could be very good.
Well, it is supported by several first party studios' games. (GT5, Socom 4, LBP2, MLB: The Show, etc.) It has a terrific lineup of games as well as games that will be patched to work with it, so the support is there. To be honest, it's just gonna take people to see Sorcery being played with it and they'll probably be hooked.
Q:..and wasn't the PS3 the fastest selling console in those 12 months then ANY other console EVER? A: yes, yes it was. just said it. : P @blumatt- how bout the 140million package "coke deal" that they have with cocacola? i think that is a big secrete weapon, and once ppl see its compatable with hardcore games and casual games... (like yall said) if people like and buy the wii... and the ps3 is $300, and it has both casual and hardcore games, and it is technically better then the wii... i dont see why it wont sell at LEAST "pretty good".
Q:..and wasn't the PS3 the fastest selling console in those 12 months then ANY other console EVER? A: yes, yes it was. just said it. : P @blumatt- how bout the 140million package "coke deal" that they have with cocacola? i think that is a big secrete weapon, and once ppl see its compatible with hardcore games and casual games... (like yall said) if people like and buy the wii... and the ps3 is $300, and it has both casual and hardcore games, and it is technically better then the wii... i dont see why it wont sell at LEAST "pretty good".
the bots continue bringing old news as references. Great job Fred. its 2010 and ur bringing up a 2007 article.
I Hope so, I really want the PlayStation®Move to sell millions, in order to get all the Third Party support and that way, people and gamers especially will realize that motion-controls in games can be more than just something gimmicky, something Nintendo couldn't demonstrate... PlayStation®Move FTW!!!
"I love how the bots continue bringing old news as references. Great job Fred. its 2010 and ur bringing up a 2007 article." Maybe because I was talking about the PS3's first year? Try to keep up. Anywho, everyone knows that the first couple years of the PS3's life were a joke. Every step it took was a bad one, and every promise made was a promise broken. It has only been in the last year and a half or so that the PS3 has proven to be a worthy contender in the console war. @WLPowell Trust me, nobody at Sony expected the PS3 to sell (roughly) the same amount as the 360 in its first year. That was a failure of epic proportions for Sony, and a true wake up call that they were no longer the king of the hill. PS3 fanboys are still failing to accept this reality, however. lol @ POSTedUp It is my understanding that the PS3 sold 5,552,074 and the Xbox 360 sold 5,656,039 in its first year. What are your numbers?
(first comment on your link) "WTF is this headline? They dont say that its failed in its first year so why are you saying they said that and why are you saying things like ‘Well done, admitting failure is the first step’? What the fuck are you on? Its sold 6m which is the same as the 360 did in its first year. Was that a failure?" If Move sells 6 million in it's first year that would be amazing. But yeah 2007 was so 2007.
sori but that dosent help your argument at all, ps3 was the fastest selling console in their first 12 months then any other console... so, what you were thinking about trying to say.. you failed at trolling pal LOL. man im probably sitting here arguing with a 14 year old. i gotta get out of here..
@ Fred-G-Sanford Are you comparing similar time frames? somehow i doubt it. Bet the ps3 was only available for a few of those months
at least fred posted a source to support his claims.. where's yours? you say he's a fanboy, but you look to be the childish one here
This is exactly the problem people and the media had. No matter how much the PS3 sold in comparison to any other console ever there was no way to reach the expactations hype brought up. I should've sold atleast 20 million in it's first year to be considered a success I'm sure. @Fred Please you are full of s*it man. There was nothing wrong with the first year of the PS3. Atleast nothing Sony could've changed for the better in your eyes and the eyes of the media. EVERYONE NEEDED to see the great giant fall down from his thrown. They tried everything but they still failed. All they did was postpone the inevitable. Just wait 5-6 more years and you'll see. PS3 at +100 million. Then when it's all said and done how rediculous will you seem with your FUD-comments hmmm?
i am very interested for sorcery dont know why. This is a game that harry potter should have been modeled after. All harry potter games are lackluster but this game is something it should have been. On another note it was really smart of them to partner with coke. Who doesnt love coke.
Really? Sorcery is worth $150? Sorcery is THE game that's going to sell millions of Moves? It looks like a downloadable game with PS2 graphics. God, Sony fanboys are so easily amused.
To make claims like that then have to show purpose. Not just in making it backward compatible in existing games but by creating games that can't be played any other way. To elaborate, every wii comes with a wiimote/nunchuck. Every game released for the wii can/can not take advantage of that combination but there is some form or another of wiimote support. PS3 comes with the DS3 and 99% of the games released for the PS3 is designed to be used with the DS3. Even though the DS3 supports sixaxis not all games use it (sadly). Same senario for kinect and the 360. Unless there are titles specifically to ONLY be played with move/kinect then both are really just after thoughts to regular control schemes. Move has an advantage of being used with traditional games but from there I really cant see it being labeled more than a wii hd. Sony obviously knows they cant abandon the use of DS3 because not everyone will have move. Kinect has potential to go beyond the stigma surrounding it currently. That is up to the creativity of developers to decide. People dont want to look beyond what is right now. Both will sell, that is for sure. And unless both can create a definite sellable purpose to own, both will be relegated to the add-on stereotype.
"unless both can create a definite sellable purpose to own, both will be relegated to the add-on stereotype" Based on my experiences with the Wii (games like RE4, MP3, MOHH2 etc) I think the Move will enhance FPS and TPS games and provide higher degrees of speed and accuracy. This will result in the Move being a necessity for anybody who likes to play these types of games online.
Thank you for at least commenting on my post where so many would just press disagree without looking at it objectively. You are correct in that move will have a "higher degree" of accuracy over the wii. No argument there. However, in the example you gave added to my original thought of the move becoming a sort of wii HD (higher degree). People who thought the wii was a joke with the motion controls would also have to look at the move with the same pair of eyes or be considered a hypocrite. No matter how flashy the graphics or the type of game (casual/core) it does not take away from the notion that you hold the move the same as you would the wiimote. I believe that move could break that stereotype with the right creative developers. I like motion controls and think the move and kinect can both be successful so long as the level of support is maintained. Also, some type of quality control MUST be in place to prevent good games from just getting tacked on motion which is ironic as that is what is already happening with existing ps3 games. At least, however, they are games that are good and not shovelware like some wii titles. Bubble to you for commenting rationally.
"You are correct in that move will have a "higher degree" of accuracy over the wii." I was meaning a higher degree of accuracy and speed over the DS3 not the wiimote, I feel the accuracy of the wiimote is actually sufficient for FPS and TPS games. I bought a wii not long after launch, I was very excited about getting one and it did offer some great core gaming experiences, however it also dissapointed me on alot of levels aswell, wii sports boxing and the sword fighting on red steel spring to mind. I ended up selling it and bought a PS3 instead as I felt it offered more games that I enjoy. Bubble back for the intelligent conversation.
"People who thought the wii was a joke with the motion controls would also have to look at the move with the same pair of eyes or be considered a hypocrite." I have a hard time figuring out why is it that people don't see or hear nothing but what they WANT to see and hear. Let me put it simple. People thought the Wii is a joke BECAUSE MOTION CONTROLLER IS ALL IT HAS. It has NOTHING more. I might like to play with MC but not ALL THE TIME. Move brings the MC and great graphics together and additionally Sony is not going to neglect the gamers who already bought a PS3 ie MC is not going to be ALL there is going to be from now on. We get the normal games, we get the MC games and we also get great graphics. It's a best-of-two-worlds-situation and there is no hypocrisy if people are thrilled about Move. You only want to see it that way that's all.
@darth Yeah it will sell, and the reason is price its the same price as a dualshock and its cheaper than wii motion plus and it works a hell of alot better. Its a solid platform, it means you will see very FEW exclusive wii titles from now on, which also means you will get a pretty big library of PSMove titles pretty quickly. Sony nailed everything they needed in the design its cheap, it can mimic wii motion plus for ports, and it is by far the best, most accurate motion control technology available on any platform and uses like 6% system resources.
When I saw the In-depth show Sony had at QORE this month about the Move, I was really impressed with what it can do. I originally saw it as a WII HD like you just said, but after watching that interview and seeing the potential the Move has I was really blown away. It is definetly a lot more than just a WII HD. You should check out that video if you can, it's pretty cool to watch even if you ain't buying it.
i personally have no idea why someone would pick this up beyond just to try it out... DS3 is by and large better to use for every genre besides point-and-shoot. Not even FPSs or TPSs would work better on move because you have zero independent camera control(and you have to worry about calibration). I'll be damned if you think im gonna seriously play Socom4 or Killzone3 online with Move. I'll give it the occasional hack-slash, i guess that'd be fun...for like an hour...(imo) So unless i was a on-rails-shooter fan, this just seems like another peripheral that'll get thrown in the pile along with the guitar controllers, the singstar mics, etc. On top of that, i don't know if i trust Sony with supporting their peripherals. Remember eyetoy....remember pseye....now they expect us to think they've changed there tune and they're gonna have big support for this thing? i don't know about that... Move is definitely not a day one purchase for me. Until Sony shows me unique games that can't be done anywhere else and shows me that they can do it consistently (with games like Ape Escape) rather than every once and awhile, im not even considering picking this up. I won't fund another experiment that ends up going nowhere again
"DS3 is by and large better to use for every genre besides point-and-shoot." Have you tried Move to compare? "Not even FPSs or TPSs would work better on move because you have zero independent camera control" Have you played much of the Wii? TPS and FPS games work brilliantly on Wii when done properly. How does the DS3 provide better independent camera control? With the move you will have a left analogue stick on the navigation controller to do the same job as the left analogue stick on the DS3. Pointing with the Move then does the same job as the right analogue stick of the DS3. You can move your cross hairs to any position on the screen with the Move by just pointing at it. It takes alot longer to move your crosshairs across the screen by using a right analogue stick. "I'll be damned if you think im gonna seriously play Socom4 or Killzone3 online with Move." My opinion is that your going to have (especially for KZ3, if it doesnt have aim assist), otherwise your going to get sick of getting pwned by others using it. Have you ever played Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition. It is the exact same game as last gen, same number of enemies on screen at any one time and same number of shots to kill an enemy. Yet the game is so much easier on the Wii and the only difference is the control method.
Dunno about the secret weapon but I surely hope MOVE takes off earlier than later. A sizable userbase helps to make the platform more attractive to devels. Curios about APE ESCAPE PS3. Those guys at SCEJ are crazy, look what they are doing with ECHO 2.
"sales of PlayStation Move are going to explode in the next 12 months" If Sony really believes that I fear for their future... @D4RkNIKON Bluray is a disk format Move is an expensive accessory which is optional for all those games you mention but 1. Not a lot of people will be willing to throw down the sorta cash Sony is asking for an optional experience unless they got money to burn. "I think Kinect will knock itself out of the market." You can't seriously believe Move has a better chance than Kinect do you? $299 vs $399 what do you think will sell more? @MariusElijah Have you ever been tempted to buy anything because it was on a fizzy drink can? I certainly know I haven't.
Yeah, you probably did the same when Sony believed Bluray was the future too. I am getting Move for Killzone 3, Socom 4, Little Big Planet 2, GT5, Ruse, Resident Evil 4, Heavy Rain and The Fight @ Below - No, they are all different. I think Kinect will knock itself out of the market.
I agree with Ziro. @D4RKNIKON- Blu-Ray won the movie war because HD-DVD got knocked out of the market. You think the Move will knock Wii or Kinect out of the market?Btw...Blu-Ray CAME with the PS3. How are you comparing it with an optional accessory????? "No, they are all different. I think Kinect will knock itself out of the market" Awesome. I'm gunna bookmark this =D Ziro has made the most logical comment on this thread so far, yet he has the most disagrees. Yeah, this is my last comment on this HEAVILY biased site. Hopefully, the mods will stop giving illogical fanboys so much power one day. Destructoid here I come!
Hey I think deadreckoning666 and Zir0 are the same guy.
dead you are somewhat correct. bluray "won" over hd dvd because sony opened their wallets. sorry but it's true that's how they "knocked hd dvd out of the market". just to clarify man. the comment about bluray being in ps3's is fact, and it isn't an accessory like you said. to sackgirl aka ultimolu- pleaseeeeeeee like you have any damn room to talk about anyone being a fanboy. ever since you made that acct all you have used it for is trolling. not one comment by you has been non-fanboyish, peeps don't believe me? look at that comment history! GTFOH
@dead go enjoy destructoid lol, the difference is NO ONE is playing kinect and going wow i want one, seriously only paid journalists have not torn it to pieces. you actually believe kinect will be a knockout success even though it doesn't work properly!?!
It's funny how people try to make themselves feel like they're the only ones that are right and the only ones that make sense. So much so that if people dont agree they'll take their argument to a place where supposedly people are smarter and will agree with you. The bottom line is, Kinect will be very heavily marketed, and it's a given that it will sell millions, but the people that buy the Kinect are going to have the same thing happen to them that happened to people that bought the Wii. You enjoy it for a little while, then it collects dust cause all the games are shovelware. The Move on the other hand is able to deliver both Hardcore and Casual games, the only problem is you have to buy seperate controls. The Move doesnt have to be heavily marketed, it already has the upper hand. You pay for what you get. The PS3 came out as the most expensive console and it still sold as much as the 360 its first year. People are willing to pay extra for a quality console (or anything). When things are very inexpensive and you think they're a bargain, when it comes to electronics, chances are it's not worth it.
well they been right with their ps3 estimates plus they have CoCa-Cola
£49.99 is expensive? to explode, it doesn't HAVE to sell consoles you know. it will of course, but that isn't what the Sony rep meant
"You can't seriously believe Move has a better chance than Kinect do you? $299 vs $399 what do you think will sell more?" So the cheaper option is automatically the one that will outsell the other? That is some logic you've got there lol. How about Kinect's limitations? The amount of room needed for Kinect, the fact that it lacks buttons (simple games are the only ones that will work), The current Kinect library is as casual as it gets, anything complicated that requires the use of a controller and suddenly Kinect is a $150 sixaxis.
@D4RkNIKON In order to have a sales explosion its going to need to appeal to the casuals and they pick the cheapest. Plus Kinect is suppose to be easy to use so anyone can do it thats the point. If you've ever played the Wii it requires a lot space to to play games like tennis with two people. The limitation of Kinect won't hurt its perception to the causals. MS is having a huge ad campaign bigger than Halo and the 360 launch Move doesn't stands a chance of outselling it.
"In order to have a sales explosion its going to need to appeal to the casuals and they pick the cheapest." I think you're not considering the 3.6 million global gap of already installed PS3s and 360s (38mil PS3 - 41mil 360). It remains to be seen if either accessory will boost console sales, but within the already installed communities, both are going to do quite well. Now it's a matter of who will actually be playing with them, based off the games, as the games are all that matter.
Why does it have to only bundles that will sell well. what about all the exsisting PS3 users that already have PSEyes, they only have to spend £35 to have move. Even a starter pack costs only £50. Thats alot cheaper than crappy kinect
the one NOT trying to pass $50+ mii-too knockoffs that don't work as well. @R2D2: suzy's mom is gonna look at that 50 dollar price tag of Kinectimals, laugh out loud, and buy the 30 dollar Eyepet. PS3 btw has a higher attach rate than the wii. what other BS do you have planned to spou- oh wait no more bubbles. just click disagree and MOVE on.
If no one had money to throw around Wii would have floped I really don't get this argument. PS3 hold tones of entertainment value for it's money is it perfect no. I don't think it going to be a money issue it's going to more can they sway the millions of casual gamers who may or may not be still even paying attention to gaming. If they get their attention then fantastic win for everyone. My concern is the controlerless thing might capture people attention and they will get another useless periferal. I have a friend who was told you have to get kinect you have to get conect. They went online watched some video's and told me you have to get kinect ... I showed them some move video's since the x-box fanboy didn't so that they could make an educated dicission and boy did their eye's open... the whole family found something they liked in the montages. If a lot of people are like them but are not getting educated and just running for microsoft like so many people do then well you can get the picture
Consider the Market. Money is a HUGE factor. Only people that make well educated decisions about video game purchases are people like us that frequent sites like N4G. Some are not educated enough to know the more expensive purchase is worth it, they just get whats least expensive to save money.
Exactly, if people actually educated themselves I believe the PS3 would be firmly in the no. 1 spot right now. Unfortunatly, people are stupid and don't do the research.
I was very close to getting a Wii - and then the news of the Move came out. No need for Kinect - I already have all the Eyetoy and most PSEye games - don't see something that Kinect offers that PSeye already has. Kinect is the overpriced thing in the whole mix. It will disappoint and crash and burn - like HD-DVD.
Just look at the Catalog of Games. Obviously it will gain a lot of Sales, and without loosing Money, will be profitable 100%.
I'd just laugh is Sony somehow made every game move compatible... by allowing people to create control setups for games and sharing them.
I think this explosion in sales will happen once killzone 3 and socom come out next year
Do you think the hardcore out number the casuals? I am sure that if little suzzy's mom went into Best Buy and saw Kinectanimal and Killzone3 she would pick KZ3 : ) And even if they hardcore did out number or equal the casuals they still dont spend as much money on games and accesories as the casuals. From what I have seen I prefer MOVE over Kinect but my daughter comes first and if she wants a special edition Justin Beiber XBOX 360 S with Kinect then she will get it.
Sony already has the backings of a large pool of hardcore gamers within it's own fanbase, they just for the most part have to draw in the casual crowd. I wouldn't be surprised if they started advertising big deals with move down the line, say get a move controller bundled with killzone 3 or, soccom4 at a reduced price! Even go as far as offering the move included as a collectors edition. Sony have ways to market move for mass penetration into the market. Microsoft on the other hand have potentially made their job harder by marketing kinects squarely at the casual market, because this move has almost completely alienated the already viable hardcore fanbase that they already have. So not only do they have to entice the casual market, but they have to convince their hardcore fanbase to stay.
"do not underestimate the power of the PlayStation"
Move is still only an add-on but so far from what I've seen with the games coming out and what-not, it's an add on that can justify it's price (I play solo, so the price is cheap).
all i'll say to 360 owners is enjoy your bigger sales this Christmas. do try to avoid gloating fellas, you know how that always ends
I'm going to laugh when sony's prediction comes true, they met there shipment expectations for last year, and i know they can meet 15m ps3 easy this year with gt5, socom 4, lbp2, time crisis, ffvs, last guardian and sorcery coming.
In their faces!
Defending what you love!!!!!!
The gaming landscape is very different now thanit was before the Wii. The casuals all have a Wii and are by now jaded. why do you think the Wii has such a low attach rate? It is the install base of the 360 and PS3 that will drive sales much more than the casual market. More core PS3 owners are going to pick up Move than core 360 owners pick up Kinect. I just don't see the casuals jumping on this like they did the Wii. The Wii was a whole system, both Move and Kinect are accessories... that's a massive difference in appeal!
Casuals will jump on Kinect after Microsoft doesn't make it clear that Kinect is just an Xbox in their commercials, and already has them in the store comparing an Xbox bundle for 300 with a Move bundle for 400.
Both Sony and Microsoft cannot compete with Nintendo on Price. I know a number of 'casual' Wii owners, and they have absolutely no intention of getting a PS3 or 360. these are hardcore gamer consoles. The people I know don't spend enough time using the Wii to justify the purchase of another console. It will be Joe Shmo gamer that gets his dad to buy him a console for Christmas, and not Joe Shmo's mom that wants one!
ARE YOU F$#%ING FOR REAL MAN. DO YOU EVEN THINK (MOST) HARDCORE GAMERS GONNA PLAY WITH MOVE .SERIOUSLY IMAGINE YOURSELF PLAYING SOCOM WITH THE GLOW STICKS, COMMON. LEAVE MOVE AND KINECT FOR THE KIDS IN WHICH IN REALITY THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE MADE FOR . KKKKKKIIIIIDDDDSSSSS AND PARENTS( CASUAL GAMERS ) NOT FOR THE HARDCORE. HARDCORE GAMERS ARE GONNA STICK TO THE CONTROL AND THE KEYBOARD PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THE SUCCESS OF MOVE AND KINECT IS BASICALLY GONNA COME DOWN TO THE PARENTS OF THESE KIDS, NOT CORE GAMERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because for me it move all the way Babyyyyyyy! And yes I am hardcore.
I can't believe people are still going on about people being hypocrites about the Wii-mote.I still think the Wii is a pile of crap. Everyone still talks like Sony and Nintendo are one and the same. Nintendo made the Wii-mote and did exactly what they do with everything they make. Nothing. The Zapper, the Glove, Rumble pad, 3D, the DS stylist, Robbie the Robot. Nothing. And now Sony comes along and shows us what motion control can really do and we have whiny, butt hurt fanboys crying because the Move is getting compliments for what Nintendo TRIED to do. Is there a time limit for when you people stop whining or do we have to listen to you go and on years later after the Move is released? Is this what you do in life?B***h and moan until you get your way?
Crappin' cheap. That's $80 CDN instead of $99. Not too shabby.
I'm looking forward to being part of that explosion.
Move simply looks awesome and most importantly is ACCURATE!! I will use w/ LBP2 SOCOM 4 RE5 because it provides a more immersive experience playing these games. It is simply the best option for MC gaming. MOVE gets the win!!!!!!!
that I only own a ps3 and have only played a 360 a few times and the wii a few times. I'm looking at getting the Move and then I think about how much money this thing is going to cost and I'm not sure it will be worth it. I don't have an eyetoy so I'd have to get the bundle for $99. then to play with someone else I'd have to get one more move ($50) and then possibly two of the other navigation contollers at $30 a piece so now I'm up to $210. Now if I wanted to fight someone I need 4 moves so I got to buy 2 more at $100. So I own 4 moves, 2 navs, an eye and sports champion for $310 add on the fight for $40 and we're talking $350 to get the full Move experience and a couple of games more than the price of a new ps3 no thanks.
What a load of pants.Who buys 4 player of anything(apart from my 4 PS3 pads but that involves 2 consoles and a time when money was more free flowing).With Wii you own 2 and friends bring theirs.Guess what with Move I'm buying 2 Moves,1 nav.Done and still much cheaper than Kinect.Also,you can spread the cost and buy in pieces.Get the starter pack and ask for the extras for Xmas.
I'm not talking about buying for four players. For the game The Fight:Lights out each fighter needs two moves. So for two people to fight each other you need 4 moves. I don't know if this is the only game but in order to play against someone else in the same room that is the only option. And unless you already own the eyetoy then Strickers you will be admittedly forking over minimum $170 for your move setup ($100 for two moves + $30 for nav + $40 for eyetoy. Still a pretty hefty sum and then you have to at least buy one title which is $40. So to start your still gonna have to shell out $210. I think I'll wait for my 60gb to die and then I'll just get the move bundle for $399.
Move day !
I really hope Starcraft 2 comes on the PS3. I already bought it for the PC but id rathar not have to go through the upgrades, plus my laptop isnt going to change. With the Ps3 online model, you could actually have battle.net. Or they could include that with Playstation+.