Rockstar goes Sony exclusive after GTAIV - Rumor

According to the latest Cheat Code Central Podcast, they mention that Rockstar has gone Sony Exclusive, and that their upcoming titles other than the ones already in production, will be some sort of a PS3 exclusive.

They start talking about it at around around 50:00 minute into the
podcast.

Titles known to be in development for the PS3 include

-New Rockstar PS3 franchise
-L.A. Noire
-Red Dead Revolver 2?

[quiddd]

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[original seed]

since GTA is the only series that is worth a d@mn. Cant say im excited about anything else they have come out with.

[Imalwaysright]

Max Payne??

[ReBurn]

Max Payne was only good for a single play-through. Absolutely no replay value, IMO. Heck, I'm still playing GTA III.

Most of Rockstar's stuff is merely average. At least that's what I think.

[N4Gworks4Sony]

N4G's sensationalistic dirty little tricks strike again. How did this get approved with such bad editing? The word rumor should be first.

[darkequitus]

Is by Remedy, the makes of Alan Wake

[felidae]

as long as they don't make games for the 360, i think Rockstar is cr@p

[JsonHenry]

Personally I don't care. (since I own the PS3 as well as the 360) But even if I didn't own both I can tell you that I would still not care. GTA was boring after the shock value of GTA3. Since then it has been the same game with a different location.

I know that it is a blockbuster game and most people disagree with me. But as far as I am concerned GTA4 is a waste of money.

[Captain Tuttle]

The GTA's just aren't fun to me. I think they're overrated. Crappy graphics and repetitive gameplay. It's a very last-gen series IMHO.

[Like a shadow I am]

Rockstar's consistent behaviors show it.

Rockstar is rumored to have delayed both Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of Grand Theft Auto IV for Sony's sake. It also has two new exclusives in the pipeline for Sony (i.e., L.A. Noire and an unannounced but known project.) On the other hand, Microsoft gets no such special treatment from Rockstars. The only way for Microsoft to get any attention from Rockstar is to pay Rockstar huge sums of money.

All signs point to Rockstar's loyalty lies with Sony, not Microsoft. So it is conceivable that Rockstar will soon declare its loyalty and commitment to Sony.

[toughNAME]

were not talking about 3 kids who are deciding who best friend is who's

this is businesssssssssssss

[Sayai jin]

Not likely, MS pockets are the deepest. Not many companies have loyalty. They are not like people, they are in business for making oney. Thats why they went multiplatform with GTA. It is said tat MS walks into prospecive big name devs with a blank check...Who can resist this :)

[TriggerHappy]

Sony allowed the game to go multiplatform, Rockstar approached them with the deal and they concurred the game go multiplatform. He also admitted that the PS3's user base was not huge enough to secure this as an exclusive.

Sony's finances has been in places but am sure they would have coughed up the "dough" for exclusivity if the PS3 user base was as big as the wii and still growing. This was confirmed by Phil Harrison numerous time.

The only reason why i think they let it go multi platform is because of th e Getaway which is a first party exclusive.

[Omicronn]

I actually dont think GTA will be as good as the older ones with all the lawsuits against them and not to mention the execs all being indited for cooking the books.

The company with one of the most anticipated titles is also looking like one of the worst investments business wise because you dont know if they are about to go totally under any day.

SEC (Stock Exchange for all you kids) investigations/lawsuits are making me think my most anticipated hardcore vulgar game (that i love) wont be so vulgar anymore with all these mom and pops adding to the lawsuits.

Why didnt Microsoft/Sony buy them recently when they were "semi" up for sale? I think they saw some bad publicity and crooked accounting.

[anh_duong]

SEC is actually securities exchange commission and not stock exchange but anyway we kids understand what you are trying to get at.

[TriggerHappy]

MEGATON...200 comments confirmed....Enjoy/am out.

This is just a rumor though, they do mention it however, no flaming please.

[Omegasyde]

I bet its smugglers run 3 or Max Payne.

I also saw on another site that Rockstar was working on a first person shooter.

hmmm.

[dale1]

i think it could be a bigger anouncement in connection with gta as well

[timmyp53]

but i doubt.. entirely exclusive.

[Kyur4ThePain]

it tells me only one thing.
R* is tired of struggling with the backward design / technology in other consoles and want to move forward with the PS3.
Cell, standard HDD and Blu-Ray.

[Ssxtreme36]

its that the next gta game wont be on 360....it probably wont fit on it...

[Sayai jin]

The will makes games for both platforms. That the reason why the GTA series has come to the 360. They will make some games that will be an exclusive or times exclusive.

[Ortiz83]

they made gta for both microsoft too in return for them giving them 50 million dollars. They were in debt. Thats how they will pay microsoft back. by making gta availabe for the 360. thing is, rockstar just used microsoft for their money, and now will somehow find a way to screw them and stay faithful to Sony...

[MoonDust]

They are paying for extra content not for the game itself. TTWO is in trouble, i doubt they can afford to make anything exclusive.

[Omegasyde]

IF Microsoft or Sony were smart enough, they would buy Rockstar Games from Take 2.
I wonder how much they are worth? GTA, Midnight club, smugglers run, max payne (1),?

[Watkins]

Wow, cool! If this is true, us PS3 owners are looking at an even brighter future

[toughNAME]

but MS should just buy rockstar

[Kyur4ThePain]

That is the MS way after all.

[Azures]

And Sony should buy Square Enix.

They both won't happen, but its fun to dream.

[toughNAME]

Kyur4ThePain - if sony had as much money theyd do the exact same thing..so relax

it isnt so much of a dream
rockstars in financial trouble...a new owner might look good to them

but personally im not a GTA fan....so what the fuk am i talking about?

[Azures]

Sony could buy Rockstar also, which would be great.

Just buy it before GTA4 comes out and stop the 360 version from releasing, compensating rockstar for the cash they spent. They'll easily make it back with people frantically buying the ps3 to play gta4.

[bluecapone]

right now this is just a rumor lets wait to see what rockstar has to say about it

[kingboy]

lol too good to be true

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

Blu-Ray was the deciding factor??? Perhaps M$ has pissed them off, who knows? w/^_^\w Probably just hearsay.

[jay3]

RED DEAD REVOLVER 2! AWESOME!

Seriously, did nobody else think that game totally kicked ass!?

[IPlayGames]

Thats wut i seen RD2 bring it on

[THC CELL]

if true good for sonys future
Gta 5 anyone??

[Azures]

After GTA4: Vice City and GTA4: San Andreas

[THE TERMINATOR]

GTA5 will probably be announced Ps3 exclusive the moment GTA4 ships

[tehcellownu]

I hope its true most xbots think they have no great games accept GTA..just because they announced a PS3 exclusive.

[LSDARBY]

If they are so loyal why is Bully being put on Wii & 360 only, not PS3!!!!!

[Azures]

I'm surprised Nintendo is letting Bully come to their system.

[MikeGdaGod]

its already on ps2. the new ports aren't entirely new games, just a few extra missions and features. nothing big. anyone with a ps3 can already play the game.

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Like the 360 had a year head start and a huge number of people had the 360 that it was the only way that Rockstar could gain profit by making this "next generation game" multiplatform (judging by its production cost and such) but if the PS3 sells more than what it has done now, then they'll make it for the PS3 like they had done on past generations.

(I remember reading this on IGN back in the day.)

But we don't know what RS thinks now now that MS made a 50mill contract on exclusive content....

[toughNAME]

but rockstar went multi before the xbox 360

[uxo22]

This would explain WHY RS is in financial trouble, they are being run by a bunch is Morons. When you sell a product, the goal is to sell as many as possible. Not to play favorites and display loyalities to another company that will hit you with a hostile takeover if they don't like the way you are doing business.

GTA is a good series, but honestly I get bored with it after a while. I grew up in the big city, I really don't need re-live it through a computer character. No way it would keep my attention for more than a couple of months. I'm much more pumped about madden and haze, and halo.

So, RS do what you must, most people won't care anyway.

[Nameless]

Microsoft wont let this happen without a fight especially after what they paid for. Things will just get worse for Rockstar if this turns out to be true.

[Fighter]

They will make more money if they develop games for all consoles. I do think that every console will get a Rockstar exclusive somewhere down the road. However, in 2008 Rockstar will focus more efforts on the PS3 by giving them two promising exclusives. PS2 launched Rockstar games into stardom when GTA III was released and Rockstar might be looking to return the favor.

[power of Green]

RockStar's going to scrap all the untitled games in development for the 360?. lol

[ElementX]

So why are they re-releasing Bully for Wii and 360 with updates? There may be truth to this rumor, but I think R* wants as much money as they can get. They'll see how huge GTA will be on 360 with more systems currently sold. Anyway, I will enjoy future R* games regardless.

[Odion]

except that Rockstar isn't allowed to make these choices, Take Two has the final say on this, and i don't believe that they'll cut off such a huge chunk of their market for no reason. Nice try though

[360Crusader]

I dont understand why Rockstar would wanna do this, but if you ask me
the Grand Theft Auto series is all they really have.
That would move consoles anyways.
Remember State of Emergency boy did that game suck, talk about pure trash.

[THE TERMINATOR]

Maybe Rockstar dont have any untitled games in development for the 360.

[supaet]

um...

i'm sure they're still making midnight club for the 360...
also, just because they're making LA Noir and another game which have not been anounced by rockstar for the ps3, does not mean they will never make another game on the 360.

[Rhezin]

yah once M$ shows them that green, I'm sure the'll change their minds even if they are devoted to sony. Red dead revolver 2 will definately be on 360 since it was on xbox first.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

I said it.

GTA will never be on 360 again after IV.

DVD.DVD.D.V.D.

openworld games in general won`t be on the 360 anymore.

deal w/ that choices you`ve made MS.

If this happens...............oh NO.

[supaet]

true, did gta4 go to the ps2?

when did gta3 came out?

when will gta5 come out? next xbox already...

[360Crusader]

I disagree I heard Microsoft was developing a new software to compress games on a Dvd, but wont be ready till next year.
If that is indeed true then their is no excuse Rockstar or any other game developer company wouldn't wanna develop games on the 360 due to lack of storage space.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

you can`t just keep COMPRESSING things.
If you think that.......i hope it works out for you.

[360Crusader]

Yes but I think your judging it before even knowing what this software can really do. We dont know so dont be so quick to make it a bad thing.
At least give them a chance.

[DiLeCtioN]

well most of their games on playstation consoles

[hikikimori]

Im optimistic about an new Rockstar Ip, but you have to admit, no other Rockstar games are anywhere near as good as GTA franchise. They would have to hit one way out of left field to come up with something that much fun/controversial/original again
All the other Rockstar games are meh.

[risk]

manhunt, bully

[supaet]

actually, L.A. Noir has not been anounced as exclusive

http://www.rockstargames.co...

go to games, and select L.A. Noir

platform: to be anounced...

[MK_Red]

Red Dead Revolver 2, PS3 exclusive or not, I'm getting it.

Also, the next Rockstar products aside from LA Noire and New IP are GTA4 DLC Content both of which are 360 exclusive.
Rockstar's publisher is Take Two and they've never been exclusive, even Bully is not multi, coming for 360 and Wii. New Rockstar games most likely wont be PS3 exclusive unless Sony publishes some of them IMO.

[Azures]

Bully's releasing on the 360 and Wii is rather inconsequential though. It falls into the same category as the MGS2 release for xbox years back.

Bully has been around for a year, on the PS2...everyone who has wanted to play it has already.

[Anything but Cute]

This was my avatar since the new IP announcment PS3 exclusive. LA Noir and New IP already PS3 exclusive. This rumor could be true.

Crime will pay only on PS3.

[Nameless]

I doubt this will happen anytime soon. Rockstar is to much in depbt with Microsoft for accpeting that 50 million. If this is true they will regret that. But greedy is greedy.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Either you prepare for a glad suprise or a hard fall.. If it would be some exclusive content i could imagine like extra levels or something not entirely exclusive games for ps3..

[techie]

Manhunt?

This sounds fishy. Perhaps you mean their nextgen output will be PS3 exclusive...I doubt that still.

[Effects Guardian]

Bully : SC edition for Xbox 360 and Wii
Midnight Club: LA for Xbox 360 and other formats
GTA IV w/ exclusive episodic content
Table Tennis (was) a 360 exclusive (But now it's being bundled in 360s and coming to the Wii)

Yes, I know that R* has LA Noire and and another PS3 exclusive coming for the PS3, but that doesn't mean they're staying exclusive. Look at Ubisoft, Haze is PS3 exclusive but they still support Xbox 360. Look at Epic: They're bringing UT3 out on PS3/PC first, but UT3 360 is still in the works and , of course, Epic made Gears of War.

Judging from that list: Not going to happen. Especially considering Take-Two owns R* and 2K has the final say on what R* wants to do.

[AbyssGravelord]

I agree with you 100% except that Haze is just a timed exclusive its coming out next year for the 360 so WOOT!!!

[Sayai jin]

Rockstar is a company. They will not go around playing games like trying to screw MS and so on. Since they are a company they will do what they have to maximize their profits. People can disagree, but MS pockets are way too deep to turn aways from. If anything Rockstar will be indebted to them, becuase they bailed them out somewhat with paying for the exclusive content (50 Million). Both companies benefited from this.

Read the article title again "Rumor" This article was posted for flamebait.

Rockstar will not bite the hnd(s) that feed them!!!

[Anything but Cute]

They already have LA Noire and a new IP coming exclusivly to PS3. the Me-to BOX 360 can go f*ck itself. Rockstar ownes them nothing, they ain't giving them any of those 50 million back.

Watch Me-to fans downplay this and say Rockstar is a business they aren't fanboys. This could be back to where GTA use to come to XBOX but not till long after it was out on PS2.

[AbyssGravelord]

Wow Me-to Box360? How retarded have you PS3Tards gotten?

[zonetrooper5]

Wel the 360 has got table tennis and Bully and GTA IV. I think Rockstar are giving the PS3 2 new titles like GTA IV, RDR2 and a new IP. I suspect that L.A. Noire will come out on the 360 as well.

[Anything but Cute]

yeah enjoy Table tennis and the bully port.

[Ortiz83]

I think your right. but i really don't think all that 50 million dollars went torwards just exclusive content. Thats alot of money just for some exclusive content which is what, like 2 levels...

[NikV3]

reason why, sony has paid for so many lawsuits against them and helped pay for devopment of games, R* sees that ps3 sales are picking up quick, 6mill sold worldwide and quicker than the 360, so they can afford it, expecialy if sony is shoveling them with money and helping them like they always have.

[AbyssGravelord]

Wow 6 million units! Where do you get your facts from your a$$? I mean seriously yesterday it was 4 million units worldwide (which it prob. is) and I bet tomorrow its going to be 8 Million...Please...

[sonarus]

Msoft pockets are deep but LA-Noire is still ps3 exclusive and another title is revealed as ps3 exclusive. Wat 360 exclsuive comes from rockstar table tennis??. However unlikely this is using msoft pockets isnt the right way to go. Lots of companies stand on both sides and money is not the only factors they consider. La-noire might still end up on 360 but if it was all about they money it probably would never have been ps3 exclusive in the first place. However i believe this rumor is false, not because xbox pockets are too deep but simply because it makes no sense for them to side with either party.

[FeralPhoenix]

Maybe I missed something, but I didn't hear anything about them going PS3 exclusive after GTA4, and if they are going Sony exclusive why make Bully for 360/Wii, why not just stop with GTA4, give M$ the extra content they paid for and then wash their hands completely of M$. -Highly unlikely they seem to love money too much.

[Anything but Cute]

I wonder if Sony doesn't have some kind of deal with Rockstar. Why is the new IP PS3 exclusive and LA Noire. Jack tretton talks like they have a deal and made an exception and let Rockstar bring GTA IV to XBOX 360. Rockstar already cashed in huge from that.

Bully is just a port, that's just free money. and Table Tennis was just to get Rockstar familar with the XBOX 360 hardware.

[killercam19]

am i the only one who notices that Merc3nary posts about 80% of the flame bait news and then always encourage flaming in the comments section

[TriggerHappy]

Dude news is news, rumor or not, if i see it and is post worthy, you will see it up here if the other agree with me.

I don't exactly make these stuff up ya know.

Furthermore, this is a gaming news site and this post is posted only in the section in which it concerns.

[hikikimori]

Worst podcast ever. These people should never record another word as long as they live.
THey are not funny, their delivery is awfull and they are not funny. And that one nerd keeps laughing at his own sh!t jokes, Sigh.

[Rhezin]

Money is everything to these people. You guys just can't realize it. MONEY MONEY MONEY it's sad but true the way the world revolves around it, and MS has plenty of it. If Rockstar can profit off the 360 you bet your ass the'll continue their already excellent relationship with them, so don't get your hopes up Sony Fanheads.

[Anything but Cute]

Rockstar was nobody till they brought GTA 3 to the PS2. As we know Sony had a deal with Rockstar back then to keep GTA games timed exclusives. But I'm thinking there is more deals and more connections between Sony and Rockstar than we know. Sony PS2 was huge back then and no doubt Rockstar wouldn't hesitate to make deals that binded the two for future development.

Just the facts that they are bringing an exclusive IP to PS3(out of the kindness of their hearts?) and LA Noire, makes wonder why. And then Jack Tretton talking about how they allowed Rockstar to bring GTA IV to XBOX 360. Just the facts that have been said so far.

I'm just saying it's possible that there is more connection with Sony and Rockstar than we thought ever since GTA IV was announced.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

It's business now as much as it was 7 years a go...

But, if there is a company out there with reasons to give any credit to Sony consoles, it's R*, that come from about nothing in the PS1 to a success on the PS2, which was not making that good when GTA III's development begin.

I know too that things are different now, Take Two owns R*, and is far know that Take Two have big plan for its participation in the game market, which includes 2K as much includes R*...

But even with this fact, it's possible to R* make exclusive PS3 games or timed exclusive. Specially if the developer sees potential in games that uses PS3's unique features list, things that R* would think that can sell really good and can't be made so good if not in the PS3...

Anyway, at this moment, i'll let this as just more one rumor in my hype-o-meter. It's not like announce one game exclusive and have another old one listed make ground for this.

[bootsaf1]

People, please. I'm soooooo tired of seeing the same thing over and over. If one game wont fit then it's an epidimic that people think will affect every single game out their. The truth is, is that most of the games are only about 7 gigs or less, and they still have 9 gigs of info on one normal dvd. Games really dont take up that much space. And just because a game looks better doesn't meen that it will take up more space either. Take music for example mp3 to mp4, the same music they sound the same, yet the mp4 takes up less space. I wonder why?????
It's all on how they work the software and how they store it on the disc. The real reason sony went with blue ray wasn't for the fact it wont fit, it's because it's more secure, and the fact that blue ray was developed by them and it was a crititcal move in order to make blue ray more popular and take the lead in the format war. Just look at the stats before and after ps3 launched. I prey that people actually take the time to read this because i'm serioulsy tired of reading the same dang thing. I want to see previews of games, and news on games not which platform is better. Thanks!!!!!!

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Having better graphics aka textures will of couse take more space. MGS4 is rumored to have 15GB of textures alone.

PGR4 has problem impementing textures due to size.

GTA4 has problem with space.

Yes game do need more then 9 GB. Higher graphics will require more memory. Bigger places (GTA4) with lots of texture even more memory and space.

[aiphanes]

After GTA4 comes out it will be a system seller on the PS3...not much on the Xbox 360...because momentum will swing to the PS3 in 2008. The reason why they delayed the release of GTA4...Sony will sale 5 million PS3s from now till early 2008...GTA4 will not come out till summer 2008. There will be another $100 price drop of the PS3 by then and a 80 GB PS3 will run $399 with the digital TV tuner and DVR functionality built in....sure an xbox 360 elite will be around $349 by then too...but which would you rather have when you can get GTA4, MGS4, and killzone 2 on?

Rockstar knows Sony is going to kick ass in 2008 and they are getting ready....if Final Fantasy 13 can come out in 2008 then its all over for microsoft...

[THE TERMINATOR]

its blu-ray not blue ray and also your post smells of BS

[bootsaf1]

CAN YOU TELL MY FUTURE TOO? You seem to be makeing alot of assumptions their.

[Silver360]

If they go exclusive they will struggle to recoop their development costs. It is easy to sell a million copies with 120 million install base try doing the same with less than 5 million. I just buy videogames I don't make them or run a company that does, so whatever taketwo allows rockstar to do it their business.

[IPlayGames]

once they started Dev GTA on PS3 all the possibilities where shown to them and they were like to bad we have to make it equal for both platforms.

The combo of cell, HDD, BR disk has there imaginations going crazy.

Its easy to port some old game to 360 and wii to make some money ps3 doesnt need them because they can already play them.

RED DEAD 2 Hell yea

[bootsaf1]

Although i respect your comment. I completely dissagree with you. Your makeing a broad statement when you state that more textures take up more space. That is not at all true. It's how a game is built. Thats like saying that you can only get 300 horse power out of an v8, but the fact is that you have small 4 bangers cranking out 300 plus horses. That an analogy that fits perfect because it's the truth. The format is the same thing. It's in the hands of the developers to mold it into place. Take gears of war for example. Thats a game that gets btought up alot mainly because it looks the best so far. That game is out of this world in graphics and is a game that takes a couple of days to beat. (normal poeple it does) And it fit fine on a normal 9 gig disk. Thanks man.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

I disagree.

It's more like 6 hours to beat Gears Of War... That was about mine time and for all of my friends with a 360... I've take 2 days, but just because i don't have all that much time for games, so it was on a 3+3 way...

[RadientFlux]

ah rumors, I seriously doubt this one, most developers don't want one dominate console but would rather all three on equal playing ground. This way there is no repeat of what Nintendo did back during the NES days.

But you fanboys have fun thinking otherwise.

[Infernus]

MS can buy exclusives but they can't buy respect. Sony and Rockstar go back many years. Rockstar needed money so obviously if you get offered $50 million dollars you take it, it wasn't because they preferred the 360, it wasn't because they liked MS more, it was because they needed the money and it would of been a stupid decision to turn that much down.

A week ago I heard that Rockstar wanted to give something back to Sony because of the MS GTA4 Exclusive DLC deal. Sony offered no money to get exclusivity from Rockstar (MS had covered R* on the money front already), Rockstar announced the exclusive deal with Sony out of respect and because they "didn't want to leave the PS3 guys out".

As of ten minutes ago I thought that apart from the games mentioned (New IP, LA Noire etc) Rockstar will produce games for the 360. So you can imagine my surprise when I hear of this exclusivity with Sony and the PS3. I don't believe anything I read until I actually see a guy from the company announce it, or blog it, so I'll take this with a pinch of salt for now.

However, the underlying fact here is that MS can't buy respect, they have to earn it. In terms of R* and Sony, they've profited well from each other in the past so the big business decision is one of two:

1) Rockstar go Sony and PS3 exclusive with the possibility of releasing the games on the 360 after a certain time period, like they did with previous GTA titles, because they know that worked for them before.

2) Rockstar continue along the multiplatform road encountering differing problems with each respective console, most likely resulting in delay (e.g GTA4).

The reason there's no 360 exclusive option is because R* already announced they were doing a new IP exclusive to the PS3.

Looks like 1) is actually the better choice in terms of doing business.

[D_U_I]

Have a brain they would go with number 1....

good points BTW

[tonsoffun]

i actually kinda agree with what you are saying there.

Bubbles for you

[abdito]

what day is lepzig

[Bloodmask]

...

[Bloodmask]

The first GTA was on PC only. That is where Rockstars roots are.

GTA2 sold the PS2. The PS2 didn't sell GTA2. 3rd parties want to make money. Not give fanboys wet dreams. That is why Tabletennis was on 360. And why Bully is coming out on 360 and Wii.

To make profit. Rockstar was around long before the PS and the XBOX. 3rd part exclusives are by contract. Usually with a monitary bonus involved for the 3rd party.

The only reason why the PS2 had so many exclusives last gen is bc it had an install base of over 100 million. Over twice the competition combined.

[Valik21]

the ps2 NOW have a install base of over 100 millions, back then it hadn't. It was slower then the ps3 and a smaller install base also. the ps2 picked up like crazy only after more than a year, in 2001 when titles like Final Fantasy X and Devil May Cry was out (by the way, DMC was a new IP back than, just like Heavenly Sword...). So the future of the ps2 was not so clear and perfect when gta 2 was released.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

360 fanboy shut up. Stop using that same Bully port and table tennis excuse. People act like if Bully port is something major. The game sold crap on PS2, and Table Tennis OMG!! What a killer app. They used that to train on how to use the 360 so they could bring GTA IV to 360.

[ReBurn]

GTA III moved a ton of PS2 hardware around the world. Vice City and San Andreas didn't hurt much, either.

It was definitely the software that sold the system, not the other way around. It takes more than consumer loyalty.

[Bloodmask]

What you are saying is correct about the install base. But at the time of GTA2s release the PS2 install base was far greater than the XBOX install base.(With the XBOX being new on the market). This is what lands you exclusive bargaining power. This is just a sound business strategy.

A testament to this being true is DMC4 and GTA4 being on 360. With the 360 install base being larger than PS3 as of now.

I realize that using logic on this website is irrelevant though because people confuse the Agree/Disagree button for the I like PS3/I like 360 button.
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And Lightning, normally I wouldn't reply to you bc you are blinded by hatred. But I do have PS3 as well as Wii. I have said many times that the only problems I have with Sony is the overhyping of their products. Being a PC gamer I know enough about technology to never believe them.

Look on my profile and my list of upcoming games that I am looking forward to. It is a bit outdated bc I made it when I first created my profile.

[DJ]

Grand Theft Auto 3 to Microsoft first, despite the fact that Xbox had almost no installed units. Microsoft told them that Grand Theft Auto didn't fit the 'image' that they wanted to portray; they're still kicking themselves to this day for handing exclusivity over to Sony.

Also, it's not always about installed units; it's more about potential installed units. The Dreamcast for instance had a huge install-base advantage over the PS2, but developers flocked to the PS2 because of its technological advantages (both power-wise and storage capacity-wise).

[hella whip]

GTA 1, GTA:London and GTA 2 were all on the PS1. GTA 3 was on the PS2.

[Rattles]

GTA has i mission were u have to kill a XBOX fanboy (PS3 version) PS3 fanboy (xbox version) that wold be so funny LOL

[BlackIceJoe]

Well if this is true this would be big news for Sony.

[Rattles]

tabletennis was only out to show off the new engine thats all!!!

[abdito]

gta4- litelbigplanet- mgs4- killzone- granturismo5 maybe god of war 3 resistance 2

[candystop]

Sony isn't running anything this generation so keep dreaming! 2008 is already on lock for MS as well so good luck waiting for that dream to happen!

[MikeJonesOK]

damn YOU XBOX if it GTA4 wasnt going multi-platform, Sony would have got it on time and yall would have got the better version 6 months later. :(

[ALIEN]

But maybe SONY just bought out ROKCSTAR. Who knows.

[Gran_Turismo]

I guess one of my news tips finally went through... glad to let everyone hear this news! Lets hope for the best!

[The Karate Kid]

O Well Its Simple

Blu-Ray******

RSX*****************

CELL*************************

As we progress more into the future, you will see even more exclusives moving towards the PS3 and more games being ported down to the 360. Also when you make games on 2-3 Discs what you XBOTS fail to understand is that from a business stand point making a game on Multiple disks will be Very Expensive and most developers and companies will just makes exclusive games on PS3. Watch how different things will be Come April - June Of Next year After Metal Gear Solid and all the great Sony games are released lol.

Now the price reduction of the 360 will help drive more sales in north America in August, but the new 40 GIG PS3 that will be $399.99 will put the final nail in the coffin for 360. Especially after HALO 3 is released. HALO 3 will be HUGE but you can't allow your whole console generation be based on 1 game. After HALO 3 the 360 will die very slow....As more and more games get released on PS3 and the popularity of Blu-Ray continue to expand PS3's will be selling like Hot Cakes....... Just Imagine for One Second just one Second, what if somehow SONY is working on the 40 Gig model and sell it for $299.99 VS $399.99 either way it would be Over for 360. if I was Sony I would release the system at $349.99 and Drop the 80 gig Model To $449.99

[ReBurn]

Why is this once again PS3 vs. 360?

Dude, there is not going to be a 40 gig PS3 for $399. Sony said at E3 that they do not want to offer multiple sku's because the public does not respond well to them. So there will be no 40 gig coffin nailer.

And Sony is not going to try to aggressively undercut the 360 on price. If they wanted to do that they already would have. They are going to have to go toe-to-toe on first-party and third party exclusive software.

[Shaka2K6]

More like GTA5 exclusive....

that would sell millions.

[Imalwaysright]

Max Payne???

[ALIEN]

Dev will make their games on PS3 first, because of blu-ray. Blu-ray provides more space than dvd n it takes like 2 or 3 dvd's to make a game fit on the 360.

Back on topic: I think the next GTA game will be a PS3 timed exclusive or an exclusive, only on the PS3. Who knows.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

She talks like she heard an announcement. I don't know about developing exclusively for PS3 as far as everything. But no doubt there is some true to this, as they there's LA Niore and a new Rockstar Franchise PS3 exclusive.

Who knows if they announce something else later, like GTA 5 going back to PS3 timed exclusive. It would mean Sony made a deal with Rockstar or Take Two or something.

[Bathyj]

For everyone who thinks devs cant afford to go exclusive to PS3, you're wrong.

Its just as good to be a big fish in a small pond as it is to be a small fish in a big pond.

Halo had no problem selling millions with a small userbase. Neither did resistance or Motorstorm.

This arguement might have held water 6 months ago, when PS3 was available in 2 countries but it doesn't apply now. A hit game on PS3 can clean up, no doubt about it. Besides, by the time we see the fruits of this union PS3 could be 15M strong. Its going to be a good Christmas.

I believe this rumour. You know why. Because Rockstar WANT to make a True Next Gen GTA and it ain't happening in part 4. It doesn't even have planes does it? Must have ran out of room. Can imagine swapping discs on a GTA when you fly over a bridge or invisible border.

[DJ]

Third party developers directly see which platform allows them to carry out their visions with the fewest amount of compromises, and we're already starting to see such developers preferring to work on Sony's platform, not out of loyalty necessarily, but necessity. Even Team Ninja, a staunch Xbox supporter, decided to experiment with PS3 hardware, and ended up getting even better results.

There's a fairly big laundry list of Xbox 360 developers that aren't abandoning the platform, but are creating new IPs for the PS3, including the creators of Project Gotham Racing 4, Too Human, and Mass Effect.

[MarioFromTexas]

Man i love that game it was fun, it had humor...I just wish they had add online to the multiplayer that would of been sick

[razer]

so I don't know where they got their info. I don't see the financial benefits of going Exclusive to Sony unless they are going to bankroll Rockstar/Take Two. The company has been for sale before and nobody wanted it.. I can see this company going out of business in a couple years.. The stock holders are already unhappy..

[J@D]

If this "news" result to be true...

Then the incoming game will be PS3 exclusive.

I like the idea soooooo... bring it all those exclusive ^^.

[abdito]

has nothing on 2008

[medziarz]

yea! that's the way to go! just choose the future-proof platform and f*ck the ps2 with PC graphics and monopoly practises!

[BIadestarX]

Honesly.. I wish this game goes exclusive for the PS3 in 2012... when the next version comes out... I lost all credibility on Rockstar after their last delay.. and on their ability to be trust worthy.. business is business.. and they made a deal with Microsoft... and they shouldn't be trying to be snake... you see.. I don't have a problem with them being exclusive to the Sony... but you don't try to suck money on Sony... and after they say no.. run to microsoft and try to get money from them.. to make the game multiplatform.. just to prove a point... it seems to be working... Sony went back to the negotiating table... seems as Rockstar blackmail really hit sony where it hurt... so, it seems as Sony is giving them what they asked for so they delayed GTA and giving sony an exclusive game... and probably all future GTA will go exclusive PS3... I think rockstar showed Sony how much pain they can cause Sony... if they don't play nice... "we go to the big dog(microsoft)." then Sony said, "no.. please.. don't we beg you..."... Honesly... I think this is not the kind of company.. xbox owners want making games on the xbox 360... a company that would make one game today.. and tomorrow change their mind... and make it exclusive for another console... because they make money...
This is not about the xbox 360.. not getting it... but more like betrayal to their fanbase... how about all those Sony fans.. that played the IP since it started... they will miss that exclusive content that will be released on the xbox 360... and how about the new fanbase.. that will come out of the xbox 360? they will not get future games... how about that.. from a company like rockstar?....

[Corrupt]

I mean, the woman mentions it in the podcast without citing the source. Bladestar made a few good points too, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

[fopums]

hell yeah bring on red dead revolver 2!

[bootsaf1]

Dude, you are soooooooooo full of what if's. And no facts. A 40 gig ps3 come on man. You are the first person i have heard this from. And what about the prices that you pulled out of your rear. Man, atleast say something that has a few facts behind it.

[Corrupt]

He'll have got the idea from this: Microsoft Bets: Sony will unveil $399 PS3 this year - http://www.n4g.com/News-544...

So it's Microsoft who are pulling the prices out of their rear. But I agree, it is "what if's" at the moment.

[Bathyj]

I not only think Rockstar want to be exclusive, I think they want to be 1st party. There are great benefits to being under Sonys umbrella. Do you think its coincidence that Sony 1st party line up looks leagues ahead of nearly all 3rd party stuff?

Just buy them already Sony and give them the love and Rockstar will return it. I think they should before M$ tries, but I dont think they would sell to them anyway. If they wouldn't sell them their game, they wont sell them their company.

[CNIVEK]

"...Sony 1st party line up looks leagues ahead of nearly all 3rd party stuff.."

I suppose you haven't seen Genji 2, Untold Legends : DK, and NBA '08. :o

[Bloodmask]

for all 3 consoles is usually of higher quality than the 3rd party stuff.

Examples of this are Mario Galaxy and Gears of War.

[Mandangoof]

And it'd be great for the industry - one console future (Playstation) has the best, free online platform, and promotes dev competition rather than hardware competition, meaning much better games from 3rd parties.

And for that to happen, the games have to be exclusive to one platform, which, let's not kid ourselves, should be the PS3. It is superior in almost every single way to the other consoles.

Since Nintendo stopped being a gaming company, I've thought about how this could happen. Rockstar going PS3 exclusive would be great news.

[RadientFlux]

I disagree, one company shouldn't own the console market. Last time this happened it led to game censorship and huge costs to developers. Nintendo did this back during the NES/SNES days and you wonder why developers flocked to the PS1 when it was released.

[Deity01]

Yeah, I agree with RadientFlux, this would be terrible for everyone in the end, not Rock* exclusively on PS3, but one platform. The market needs innovation more than ever to succeed right now, and the only way innovation is going to occur is in a large market scenario. Because competition fuels innovation.

[Mandangoof]

No, what the market needs is to advance. We need better games, not just different games. More often than not, different (Any original game at all on Wii) is much sh*ttier than better (any original PS3 game). Different and better can work, but that's not where we're heading.

One platform under Nintendo would be disastrous, true. Back then it was, and now it would be even worse as we would have decades of inconceivably stupid and pointless games which don't challenge our emotions, skill or anything really. They'd probably drop any hint of S/NES-evil Nintendo and make more non-games.

One platform under MS would be horrible, we've seen how their monopolies destroy.

One platform under Sony however has no precedent. I don't remember them slacking on the PS2 when it had over 100 million and the dominating portion of the market so as to make every other console insignificant.
The PS3 pricing was a mistake, but the approach is not. Free, superior online gaming (not service, gaming, MUCH better than LIVE in that regard), better hardware, more money spent on varied and inventive software. Once the price is down further, you'll see more clearly. GTA4's delay was a brutal blow to the Xbox 360 coffin.

[Deity01]

I could agree with that, but I nonetheless feel it's better with competition.

I think that's a really unique perspective with looking at pS2's domination last gen, but it is still not proven what sony would do in a monopoly situation. They've never walked in Nintendo's shoes before, what if they just released another batch of PS3's with a Playstation 4 on the side and charged $5,000 a piece. You just need competition to keep the industry moving in the right direction is what I was trying to say.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Oh wait it's just a PS3 fanboy dream

[biggun2055]

rockstar just saw that the ps3 is the system where it can best make games THAT ARE TRULY NEXT GEN HAHAHA BOUT TIME THOSE 600 BUCKS START PAYING OFF

[TheMART]

LA Noire will be on 360 dudes...

It might be timed exclusive for the PS3 but thats about all.

[felidae]

bla bla will be on bla bla .. trust me.

mark my words .. bla is exclusive to bla.

dude ... you´re so bla.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

If more detailed texturesd, more textures. More voice acting. HD output. Do NOT take more space why we not still using floppies?

[TheMART]

@ idontcare

And others. The title is just stupid. Rockstar goes PS3 exclusive after GTA IV. You really promise yourself that in your wet dreams at night?

Rockstar is a commercial company with shareholders that want to maximize the profits from their hard cash invested. Thus: saying it will go exclusive 100% for one platform, that has fewer units out and future is uncertain is 100% bull. Made up by PS3 fanboys that also made up the rumours of reviews 9 for Lair which weren't there, but the EGM review 6 was true.

And that's how it is. You can stick a brown nose in Sony's ars as many times as you want, but the only thing it'll bring you is a bad smell afterwards and no games.

[felidae]

I have the feeling you don't get it.

Like my name says ... idontcare about Rockstar going anywhere. i just wanna play games.

[Bathyj]

This must be a touchey subject. I go have a nap for a couple of hours and come back and my ignores have nearly doubled to 14.

I'm mean seriously, what have I said that was so offensive? I'm getting a bit sick of trying to be diplomatic and respectful only to not be treated the same way.

Theres too many crying 12 year old girls in this site.

[THAMMER1]

You try to act as you are diplomatic and front to friendly over the whole XBOX vs. PS issues. But you are a complete @ss hole. In comment 74 you take shots at 360 buy making claims of swapping discs. You know that is total B.S. You do this stuff all day. I know what you are doing

Most people see sight through you. That is if they have any non-bias technical knowledge. But as you say your self there are a lot 14 year old cry babies on this site so it is not hard to push you console is weaker than mine B.S. because they will not truly take the time to search the background of the PS3 or the 360. The surface is all that matter to them.

So if you are concerned about who ignores you then you should take another approach to what you post. The truth about the PS3 is the RAM is limited. Even though the system has Blu Ray that is a great perk to completely honest and non-bias. But the PS3 has split RAM with 256 dedicated to video and out the other 256 they use 96mb for the operating system and then what ever it takes to run the game engine. BluRay cannot push how much Ram the system has. The PS3 will always have less available RAM vs. the 360.

Sorry BJ but the truth is back in 2006 I used to do the same thing you are doing on this site which is flame. Now that both systems are on the market the truth is out. So stop the B.S. play more games and you will start to see thorough the talk show drama the media is using to play us gamers.

I perfer the XBOX but I refuse to lie or help spread FUD about the PS3. You are smart enough to know why.

edit:
This link will show you why Blu Ray is a non-factor and switching disc is not a problem either. Just listen to john he is being real about it. His pockets are lined with dough from the early PC gamer explosion from the 90's so he has no problem being honest because he dose not need to sell the PS3 or the 360, just his game.

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

BathyJ do not respond to me in a PM. Respond here for every one to see you.

[The Real Joker]

Thammer, You summed up my opinion of BathyJ perfect. He is one of the biggest fanboys on this site. There have been so many times I have read his comments and just shook my head because well they may not be as direct as say Bill Gates, Rio Hustla, or achira, they are just as biased as they are. He just covers it well. I am not saying he is an idiot or anything like that. I just believe he DEFINITELY does not bring a fair opinion to any argument. What is crazy is that he is shocked by the ignores and disagrees. Do yourself a favor Bathy and take your one sided passive 360 bashing mentality and look at your prior posts. Bubble for Thammer and ignore for Bathy.

[THAMMER1]

Thank you

I'm not trying to beat him up or anything, I'm just setting things straight as an educated games nerd should. I realized that when I was flaming and posting Bull $#!T it did not help this site to move forward it only added fuel to the fire. The truth is both consoles are good and the truth should be discussed about them not mindless FUD. This is my last week for BJ. If he does not start to show his age he will be ignored just like the others.

Oh yeah 1 more thing I have not ignored achira yet because his ignorance make me laugh. Reminds be of Gonzo from the Muppets. I have like 17 ignores but the cool thing about it is I know why they ignore me. !THE TRUTH! I can be a little hard on some people too but ever since I saw my son on a 3D ultra sound some things in life even video games became more illuminated to me. So you may see a different THAMMER1 on N4G.

[The Real Joker]

Thats pretty funny. I use the ignore to make a point most of the time. I do find myself hitting the show button for some of the comments. Not really to get the opinion of the poster, but to laugh. Agreed about achira. Bill Gates is sometimes funny as well. I guess its a little different from one poster trying to get a shock laugh like those two. And then there are some on ignore because they are making serious posts and STILL being very fanboyish. I realize not everyone is here to make valid arguments. I bet half of my posts were me just trying to be funny. Sometimes it works and sometimes you lose bubbles. Anyway, I am ranting an now I will go back to work. Take care.

[Pika-pie]

First of all this has gone completley off topic. Which just shows that you are all fanboys. Just admit it.. Im a fan of the PS3, theres nothing wrong with this sort of competition, So what. just keep it healthy.

In my opinon the 360 sucks big hairy balls, so what. Its my opinion. At the end of the day it doesnt really matter who is right or wrong.

BTW RAM is not an issue with the PS3, just the lazy devs who are used to having the 512MB open to them. 512MB is still their on the PS3, they just have to utilise it differently.

And Yes, the PS3 used a chunk for the OS. But its not 96MB any more, last I heard they got it down to 70MB. And it falls with every firmware update. (All though this might change with Home, we will have to see).

[QuackPot]

Of the three ignores I have:

* one is a well known troll/flamer

* another is likely a hardcore racist after I commented on his racist remark and ignored him.

* the third is unknown. Undoubtedly a fanboy. Wish he would identify himself so I can put him on my ignore list because I guarantee, he has nothing worth reading.

[Bathyj]

Oh Boo FKN Hoo Thammer. Gee I mentioned swapping disc and you go off on a personal attack that just proves your the fanboy your accusing me of being. But its ok for you to bring up technical limitations of a console. No worries.

I'm allowed to have a favourite console, and I'll praise it all I want. And I'm allow to have problems with XBox and M$ because I'm on my 3rd. I have about 30 games so I have a personal interest in whether the machine flourishes or dies. My whole point was I dont stoop to the level you just have had with person attacks. You make out like I act all high and mighty and then do that and try to act like the moral high ground is still yours. What a load of crap. You have plenty to say about PS3 yourself so dont pretent your sh*t doesnt stink. I pride myself that I can have civil conversation on this site with people I dont agree with and have come to respect many, I never seen eye to eye with.

It doesn't matter so much to me what your position is, but how to treat people, and I think I've seen your true colours now. If you want me to just degenerate to schoolyard fanboy level then this ones for you. If I'm so FKN bad why dont you just ignore me 15 other little b*tches on this site have just for having my say?

There, is that childish enough for you.

[s8anicslayer]

maybe this is a sign of sony buying rockstar, and there won't be a 360 version afterall, wouldn't that be something?

[Salvadore]

I can see this happening since Rockstar has complained about the 360 hardware and how is restricting them.

[mightydog01]

All i see is 360 fanboys coming on here playing down the ps3 going off topic trying to put blame on ps3 fanboys.I use to have a 360! 4 died on me, And another problem they scratch my disc's. MICROSOFT HAD 2 YEAR to sort it out they did'nt liston to there custumers putting blame on us, And now they just admited there's a problem and give u another year parts and labour if its 3 red lights only. I GOT SICK OF IT AND DESIDED to get a ps3 and im happy with it no more crappy hardware. ps im not calling the 360 its fact.

[atomdooze]

ill only care if they make another max pain but i will never and i mean never buy a ps3!

[atomdooze]

didnt they spend 3 billion to give u another year on ur unit, brand new sh#t dosent bother me till the buggs are worked out.

[Crazyglues]

for one GTA has always sold well on the 360, and after Microsoft just gave the company 50 million kinda makes this seem like a slap in the face.

I mean it would be sweet for Sony but wow, I just can't see how it would be true, especially when Rockstar seems to put serious work into the game to make it work well on both systems.

If GTA-5 would only be on the PS3, that would be huge, huge. And would put 360 in a bad position, and I'm sure Microsoft would not let that happen, they would bend over backwards to in-sure that this never happens.

So I put this one at about a 2 out of 10 of this actually turning out to be true. It's just highly unlikely. In my Opinion

[IRONMAN457]

got off their nuts, they will stay with sony and leave them alone,

It was also confirmed its LA Noire

[AngryTypingGuy]

LA Noire has always been PS3 exclusive. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[comradesnarky]

I don't believe this at all. I remember reading an article about Rockstar wanting to launch Grand Theft Auto III on Xbox, but Microsoft didn't want them to do it. I think it also said something about how Rockstar preferred Microsoft to Sony. I wouldn't be surprised if the delay wasn't to help out the Playstation 3, but, I don't think it's because they want to help Sony so much as they said that they would launch both versions at the same time.

[The Milkman]

Honestly I been done with the console bashing. I just got to say just get the first next gen console to release first. To get a head start on the next generation. Then buy the second to release later on down the road because most of the time there isnt going to be as much features on that console as the earlier released one. Then wait for price cuts and better updates for that console. Then you got yourself a deal. After the othere company sees they are loseing pace. They will begin to boost there console even more.

That being even if rockstar is bringing exclusives to the PS3 in the later years doesnt mean run out and buy it now. Thats like jumping in line for a roller coaster ride thats not going to be finished until 2 years (one hell of a roller coaster). You guys get it? thats why the Sony Fans deserve a nice smack in the back of there head to wake them for being ignorant.

[tonsoffun]

i must admit, your comments make total sense to me bud. I kinda agree

[Armold1]

mark it

[Armold1]

it's gonna be huge