Microsoft store confirms 6ft of space needed to play Kinect

Posting on official Microsoft Kinect site appears to confirm that you do need 6ft of space to play Kinect.

[-MD-]

Not too bad I suppose. Can't play this in my room as I only have about 4 feet of space between my tv and my bed though.

[MariaHelFutura]

-Facepalm-

[Conloles]

I need 1500 Feet because thats how far I'm keeping Kinect away from my Xbox

[Chaostar]

At least your trolling is kinda funny here :P

OT: I have the space just not the energy.

[nycredude]

I think it is 6 feet per person right?

[GWAVE]

6 feet actually means 7-10 feet. If you are moving back and forth you will need the extra room. Also, it's not like you're going to stand right up against your furniture. You'll want that extra room. So, six feet is the absolute minimum.

$150 dollars. Two-player only. A lot less precise than Natal showed. A lot of lag. And nothing but shovelware being tech-demoed.

Yep. Gamers should rush out and get this! "Oh, shut up GWAVE. Kinect isn't being aimed at you." Yeah, I forgot. That's why people were so forgiving and understanding when Wii Fit and Brain Age started to slam the market, right?

[Cold 2000]

6 feet = 1m82

Thats WAY MORE than ok. And I think thats kind of the advised distance you're supposed to have between yourself and the TV.

[nycredude]

Why did I get disagree? How the fuck are you going to fit two idiots in a 6 feet area flailing around and not have them both run into each other and poking each others eyes out?! Seriously... It obvious this is the bare minimum amount of space needed for probably one person.

Conloles Help me out here! WTF!?

[36T]

Gwave. Why do you care so much about Kinect? You post in every single article and you're usually one of the first. Why don't you make a crap load of flyers and hand them out in the streets? Gwave is on a mission people!

Conloles. You need 1500 feet to keep Kinect away from your Xbox but you can't stay out of Kinect articles? lmao @ u! PM me that gamertag of yours. I gotta check out all those games you're playing.

[King_of _the_Casuals]

That's not to bad for most places in the US and Europe. It's just Japan and Big cities like NY where this will be an issue.

[Game13a13y]

wow, every negative rumors about Kinect turned out to be true
-6 ft clearance, checked
-no sitting down to play, checked
-$150 price point, checked
-cannot support 4 players, checked
-need to operate in bright atmosphere, checked
-no hardcore game support, checked

so much fail even before its official release...

[Dread]

It will sell like hot cakes checked
sony move is a copy of the wiimote and no one is interested in the thing checked
you are a troll checked

[GodHandDee]

If you think Sony Move is a copy go check up on the demos and the tech behind it..nothing like the wii..just because two things look the same doesn't make one a copy
And plenty of people are interested in it, including me, cuz it actually gives me games that I like, not ones made for the quick buck or looking like an idiot jumping around, check
Telling others trolls but being a troll yourself is a sad sad notion: check

[acky1]

no 'game13a13y' seems right with what he said. and yet so does 'dread', well his first sentence anyway...which is a scary thought for the human race - people will buy anything if it is marketed correctly.

[LoydX-mas]

-6ft clearance, check
-no sitting down to play, which games?
-$150 price point, check
-cannot support 4 players, proof?
-need to operate in bright atmoshpere, it has infrared camera so that is incorrect.
-no hardcore game support, so you have inside info on upcoming games and NONE of them will be hardcore? Right.

@acky1^^^ It sure it a good thing we have PS3 fanboys here on N4G to "educate" the stupid humans who don't buy the way they want us to, isn't it?

[Game13a13y]

at least i'm not speaking out of my air hole from behind like you did.

[scar-leg]

It can't support 4 ACTIVE players. It can recognise 6 players at a time but will only track 2 of them. If you want proof here it is:

http://www.play.com/Games/X...

Go to "Technical Details" at the bottom.

[PS360_37]

@GodHandDee

I really like the potential of move with Hardcore games,but the Move is a Wii copy. Maybe not the exact tech, but at the end of the day it does the SAME thing as a WiiMote but with more precision.

I still really like it and will be purchasing it, but I'm not going to call it something it isn't.

[Game13a13y]

what hardcore game that you seem to know about that is in development? Milo? as of this moment, we have heard nothing hardcore about Kinect, only a bunch of wii rip-off games for causals. MS has said it themselves too, they are trying to target the causal audience with Kinect, unlike Move, which we have seen many hardcore game support already. so please, give us facts or don't assume Kinect to be some amazing thing without seeing anything.

[absolutecarnage]

hey show me one game that move has that you can play 4 players at the same time, oh wait you can't!!!!! because think about it each average person arm spand is 6 ft, . So basically to play Move 4 players you would need almost 24 ft of room

[Why o why]

i think its time for you to have a break from n4g...check

nothing more ironic than a fanboy calling out a fanboy. 'It will sell like hotcakes'...What a stupid anti gaming comment. Like that somehow makes it enjoyable....pity you couldn't say anything positive about kinect from a gaming perspective ...sad

Anyway ill let the games do all the talking NOT the haters or defenders so time will tell

'It will sell like hot cakes checked'

lmao, good luck with that game patcher.

my first comment shows i feel there's nothing wrong with the space needed so dont label me as some blind hater or some other BS im just saying you're acting like the people you dislike.

[Guitardr85]

You mean just like kinect is a copy of the playstation eye??? In case you forgot, the eye did come out on the PS2.

[Garnett]

Dont forget you cant be black either..

/Sarcasm

[sid4gamerfreak]

6ft of space...

This is gonna flop so bad thats it not even funny..

man i actually feel bad for 360 fanboys now, they have absolutely nothing to defend their beloved console and microsoft anymore

kinect is a joke i hope casuals dont fall in for the hype

i guess the only person wholl play the kinect games with passion will be that girl justin bieber...

EDIT: Oh wait, I just saw omegas comment..man u make me laugh so hard...keep trolling

[FragMnTagM]

with the 6ft of space. People who are actually working and paying rent for their own place, or own their own home will not have a problem.

America isn't Hong Kong, houses tend to have space in the living rooms here.

[Independent_Charles]

i would of been able to play this if i didnt have a bed lol. but knowing my perants they will get this for my younger braithers and sisters at xmas. thats the 4 gb bundle. i can see that selling a lot.

[Independent_Charles]

no dought i got the disagree cause i said i see xbox selling well over xmas.

[J-Smith]

yeah it will be six-feet under next year to LoL

[Bzone24]

Maybe the next time you use the line it will be funny. Don't give up on your dreams of that line being funny.

http://n4g.com/news/568519/...

[tinybigman]

Reconfirms me not buying this piece of crap camera, and the shovelware games that go with it.

[P1NKY]

I think Kinect will only work in people front rooms, but then most people have sofa's with coffee tables in the middle of the room so you would still have to move stuff around. I think MS should try and improve the cameras view angle to shorten the distance required.

@FragMnTagM

That's not what I meant. Obviously you don't want to rule anyone out, that's why I said they should try and improve the view angle of the camera so that you don't have to stand as far back but it will still pick up most people.

Anyway it was just an idea. Considering the optimal distance you have to be from the camera is roughly the length of a bed. (With some room to move forward and backwards)

Kinect will probably be fine in America but in most other countries space can be a problem unless you re-arrange your largest room. Sometimes that's not enough.

[FragMnTagM]

So you expect a camera to be able to track a 6-7ft tall person from the less than six feet away? Makes perfect sense. Why would MS want to rule anyone out from playing it?

[Moentjers]

maybe you can sell your bed for 150$.

[Omega4]

I really don't see how this will be a problem. 1.8m is nothing, you would need that kinda space for any motion controller. In fact depending on the size of your TV you should be that far away from it anyway.

@Hellsvacancy
Well I doubt those people could afford Kinect anyway, or they at least would want to spend their money on more important things.

[Hellsvacancy]

Guess all the poor mofos whos livin in Caravans or Trailer Parks r screwed then

[Stryfeno2]

If you live in a Caravan or a trailer park, your first priority shouldn't be kinect or gaming for that matter.

[Independent_Charles]

"If you live in a Caravan or a trailer park, your first priority shouldn't be kinect or gaming for that matter." what about the people that have been brought up living in a caravan like the generations before them. you cant just say that because thats peoples heratige right there. not in all cases, some live in one cause there lazy g1ts that dont have a job, but what im on about is the traverling people like myself.

[TheTeam06]

Of course you don't see this as a problem.

[Dread]

of course you see this as a problem.

[TheTeam06]

I never said this was a problem......?

[DigitalAnalog]

Ummm... many homes here in Hong Kong are only 2 - 3 feet away from the TV. and they play the Wii JUST FINE.

-End statement

[mopground]

like GWAVE said above in reality your gonna need about 10 feet without any objects like furniture and about 3 feet on either side just for 1 person to play

[GodHandDee]

You don't know much about cities like Tokyo..space is a BIG deal

[Anon1974]

I just don't have this kind of room in my den. I could move my 360 up to my living room and move the furniture every time I want to play, but that just ain't gonna happen.

[callahan09]

The "tight clothes" thing doesn't bother me much, I would probably wear shorts and a t-shirt anyway, but I simply don't have 6 feet free, so I don't know how I would even get to try this out. I'm certainly not going to buy one and hope that it's fun and playable with less than the required space.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

1 player only, but the space of 2 players, I'll pass.

[N4GayFanturds]

for best viewing of sets 50" or greater, you need to sit back at least 6 ft.

Now watch the Sony fanboogers try to spin this...

[Why o why]

say if you have a 32"...just saying

Anyway 6 ft is nothing. Its never good to be too close to any tv.

[FragMnTagM]

You are right. I have a 65 inch TV and if I get within six feet of it, the picture doesn't look nearly as good as sitting 8-10 ft. from it.

[Poseidon]

do a karate kick and see what happes to your room...

needless to say im not so enthusiastic obout kinect as the "25%" that play on buying it.

[divideby0]

I have said this from day one.. I dont know anyone who has a big distance between their sofa and TV.
There is something called a Coffee table which 90% of the homes I visit have them..
So go ahead and move your coffee table to play Kin.....lol
Sure if your house is designed like a railroad car.

At least we can play our Wii sitting down and I will buy Kin, when there is something remotely interesting to play or at least use to move menus

[Dorwrath]

I have a coffee table between my TV and sofa.

6 foot is further back than my coffee table, and I have a pretty damn big coffee table, so coffee table wouldn't have to move. Even if it wasn't, I can slide it forward. Novel idea I know. Means getting off your lazy butt I know.

Then how about this, when finished playing Kinect. Shock horror, it can just slide back.

I know this is a foreign concept, to some, but thirty seconds of work ain't gonna harm you.

Not that I'm buying Kinect or Move. Just saying.

[JokesOnYou]

lol are you serious 6ft is not much, I don't know any adult gamers that sit close up to their tv even while gaming with a standard controller in their living room, hell my aunt and older relatives love wii sports, among other active games, they have no problem sliding the coffee table too the far wall.....have u actually ever seen folks play games like wii bowling?...doesn't sound like u have a real grasp of how these games are played 6ft is about 2-3 arms distance away from the tv for most avg size people.....most folks watch tv 6-8ft away.

JOY
edit, ahh so now you're on about micro ripping off consumers, lol as if nobody else has ever sold overpriced accessories....just finish your trolling by telling us how much u hate micro and *move along to a ps3 thread

[divideby0]

^ dude try playing on a 57" TV like we have at 2 arms length away..
yea you are right if you have a 32" TV.
Opt viewing distance for a 57" TV is 9'

as I said I will buy one for my 360 when I see a killer app or at least a game that interests me..until than we have the Wii and I will see how Motion is working with REAL games.. not kick the ballie..lol

[Terarmzar]

I have a very large living room, but i still don't want Kinect.

[Wh15ky]

I sit between 6' and 9' away from my TV depending on what sofa I am viewing from.
However, as far as I'm aware you have to stand to play Kinect, so why did you bring up sitting.
I would have to push both my sofas to the back of my living room and move my coffee table every time before switching on Kinect - think I'll pass.

[shikwan]

Your choice! I have a 50" with a recling sofa & a large coffee table in front of it. My sofa is about 7 ft back from the tv.

Sitting is not the key here as opposed to standing - Kinect can be used while sitting or standing.

Do you think you're gonna have to stand to use it to watch movies?

IMO Kinect is a party device as well as for my kids. When I'm ready to play games with it, with my kids, or use it while hosting a party, I'll move the coffee table out of the way. Simple. I don't have pics of your setup but I can't see why you'd have to move the sofa, as well as the coffee table??

But I'm sure any1'd do the same with Wii or Move because the point of the Wii, Move & Kinect is to get you OFF the sofa.

[Wh15ky]

"Sitting is not the key here as opposed to standing - Kinect can be used while sitting or standing."

Most of the games I have seen so far for kinect require you to stand.
Quote from article: "You'll need any Xbox 360 console, a Kinect sensor, Kinect games and 6 feet between you and your television for play space" Is the 6 feet space between you and your TV required so the camera can view your whole body when standing or just to give you room to move? If it's required for the camera to see you then you're going to need more than 6 feet altogether.

"Do you think you're gonna have to stand to use it to watch movies?"

I can't imagine you'd need 6 feet free space on front of you to use it to watch movies either, but then nobody here is discussing kinects movie watching features, so I don't see the point in mentioning that.

"I don't have pics of your setup but I can't see why you'd have to move the sofa, as well as the coffee table??"

So does that mean I'm lying because you can't imagine it? One of my sofas sits about 6-7 feet away from my TV which is wall mounted. If I push my sofa any further back it blocks the doorway into my living room, therefore to gain the space required to play kinect I would have to move my sofa further back so it is clear of the door.

On a friendlier note, I see we have the same birthday.

[Hacker]

6ft is reasonable amount of space not too much and not to less. It seems as if Microsoft had the gamers and buyers interest in mind.

[divideby0]

MS NEVER has interests of games and buyer in mind.
Please look at their history of the most over priced rip off accessories

[BeaArthur]

Every gaming company has ripoff accessories. The Wii has just about every peripheral you could think of and now Sony is also going to have those same peripherals. MS is no different than Nintendo and Sony. All of them try to steal your money where they can.

[Prcko]

don't have that much space,pass

[wazzim]

You play in your toilet?

Come on, what the heck is this: Massive trolling at the requirement of 1.8M FOR A MOTION CONTROLLER.

Why the heck would you play kinect from 0.9M in a small room? Wouldn't that just be annoying since it is made to let the gamer MOVE AROUND.

It's like complaining that your tv remote doesn't work with the living room TV when you go to the toilet upstairs. Why would you want to switch programs when you can't see the screen?

[dragon82]

You do realize that not everyone has that much space in their livingroom just because you do. I live in your standard 1200 Sq ft ranch style house and my livingroom is just not that big.

http://i23.photobucket.com/...

From the front edge of my tv stand to the back edge of my coffee table is exactly 6ft. Are you going to tell me that from the back edge of my coffee table to the front edge of my sofa is enough space to play Kinect?? It has nothing to do with being a fanboy. This is going to cut out alot of potential buyers.

[Neko_Mega]

6ft is nothing for me, heck I got more then that. Just wouldn't pay as much as they want for it.

I got over 400 bucks that can buy me more games vs wasting on a eyetoy/ some I could get cheaper for my pc that does the same.

[BeaArthur]

I have a good amount of space between the wall and my TV but it's not 6 feet. So basically they want you to have a room with no furniture to play Kinect. They better put that info on the box.

[spooky205]

How many of us on this site will actually purchase kinect for themselves? Granted i dont have the space but if i did i see no value in kinect for myself. Smart move on microsoft claiming you need a good six feet free because you can bet what you like but some idiot will try to sue claiming microsoft failed to mention this. I mean its because of idiots like this that baby strollers have disclaimers stating "do not close stroller with baby in it." Just a sheer lack of common sense.

[wenaldy]

You could play it on your backyard..

[Reefskye]

Ahh it all makes sense now.. The 360 scratch disc's correct? how many houses have floor board's? if moving a 360 can scratch a disc just think how much the will scratch when two people are jumping around 6 feet away from it and then BAM! M$ will sell you all shock absorbers for £30 :P

I Kid I Kid

[MRHARDON]

Must jump pretty hard to lift the Xbox 360 and jump in a way to it can tilt a bit so it can scratch the disk.

[Reefskye]

Nah but the sear force of 2 people jumping in front of it is enough to send shocks to the 360. if just tilting it slightly damages them

[Pillville]

from the article:
"6 feet between you and your television for play space"

Does that mean you need to be standing 6ft away from it?
I hope they mean you need to be about 5ft away and allow another 1ft for leg/arm/body movement, otherwise it's not much good to clear 6ft of room then try to play with your back against a wall.

[ajlopo]

How close were you planning on sitting in front of your tv for anything??? Move, Wii, Kinect you all need a little room. Man the amount of PS3 fanboys in every 360 article...I guess there's nothing exciting happening on the PS3 side. How pathetic...

[Smootherkuzz]

†Play space will vary with sensor placement and other factors.

[WithMyLastBreath]

See the things is, say most people have 6ft, I do. But that 6ft is to my bed. And as others have said, If I were up jumping around and kicking, I would be much closer than 6ft. Either way, where is the damn scan-your-object tech they had in the commercial years ago....bastards.

[Jamito]

Sorry I dont have 6ft of space in my room.
And I'm sure that the people that will be buying this will not either.
Pathetic idea.
Kinetic will fail so bad =D
Enjoy disagreeing fanboys <3

[JonnyBigBoss]

Won't work in my gaming center...

[ArchangelMike]

The fact is a lot of ppl have their 360's in bedrooms, spare lounge's etc and not in the living room. With relatively small TV's (26" - 36") in the bedroom, you can play a 360 game sitting on the bed / lounge and only need to be 3 - 4 ft away to have a good viewing angle. For those gamers who have their 360's in their bedrooms etc (unless they have big spacious bedrooms), finding 6ft for kinect will be a major problem. Same with those who live in small apartments etc.

[stephmhishot]

I really don't think this will matter much, the average consumer won't even be aware of this until they've already purchased it and taken it out of the box and read the directions.

That said, this may reach PSPgo status in Japan. With the Japanese apparent disinterest in Move and Kinect already, telling them they need a lot of space to play is really gonna shun them considering the size of living arrangements in Japan.

[Pillville]

The original idea as presented at E3 last years seemed cool. It's slowing turning into a mess.

Who wants to have Kinect?
(all hands go up)

You can't sit
(some hands go down)

You need to stand 6ft away
(some hands go down)

Only two people at a time
(some hands go down)

Some clothing restrictions apply
(some hands go down)

There's some lag
(some hands go down)

No hardcore games
(some hands go down)

The object scanning isn't there yet
(some hands go down)

It's only $150.
(some hands go down)

who's left?

[jack_burt0n]

bieber fans, green ring, omega 4, big pappy, cold 2000.

And ppl who lack any form of discernment.

[jack_burt0n]

LOL so basically excluding all inner city consumers in one blow thats a hard f*ckin fail.

Inner City residents, black people, children, women who wear nothing but dresses lol anyone else they gonna exclude!?

[rezzah]

Slaps everyone* Oops srry, I was playing Kinect. 6 feet is too much.

[xX-PEIN-Xx]

I'm a PS3 fan and I'm changing my mind about Kinect. People had similar doubts about the Wii and looked how that turned out. The Wii was a gimmick and the mainstream bought it in droves. The key thing is that casuals aren't experts on gaming. They don't follow the follow the industry like we do so they aren't hearing about these issues before launch. If Kinect fails, it ,ost likely won't be because of these problems. It'll be because the mainstream decides they're content with the wii and don't want to jump on a new platform. Same goes for the Move.

[mopground]

kinect will do great at the start it when people have it for a while theyll decide not to buy software for it. also kinect has not shown a 3d game its all 2d.

[ArchangelMike]

For a 3D camera, you'd think they would push 3D games. MS have generally been averse to the whole 3D phenomenon, rightly or wrongly (maybe they know something about the 360 that we don't *wink *wink). In any case the more information that comes out for Kinect it becomes apparent that it is just a glorifired camera . 150 buck to navigate the xmb... why not I've money to throw away /s.

[DigitalRaptor]

The difference is that Move is good for gaming. It's precise and has the good software to back it up. Kinect just isn't. It's awkward. Both developers and consumers have to work around it. Developers have to go out of their comfort zone to make new experiences around Kinect or find ways to implement it into their games. Consumers have to follow the "Kinect rulebook" e.g. Physical space and clothing restrictions.

Move is simple for developers and consumers, it's more comfortable tech, and barely any restrictions.

[silvacrest]

what is recommended and what is actually need are to different things

i guess we will find out in november

[Half-Mafia]

i only have about 4.5f from my tv to the start of my sofa, so there is no way ill beable to play Kinect, even though atm there is nathing for it i want. but i was interested to see what games come out when it uses the controller aswell.

[bjornbear]

*removes furniture from room*

now I can play kinect =D

[shikwan]

hhh

[Spenok]

Ouch. Another point against Kinect.