Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty was mast anticipated game of 2001. Upon its release, gamers rejoiced until they realized they had fallen victim to a bait and switch scam. 10 years later is giving Raiden his own game, again, an insult to fans.
Someone hasn't played MGS4. Raiden was a pivotal character in that game and many gamers changed their minds about him.
can't believe I agree with you finally.
Ever since MGS4, I was hooked on Raiden. It all dates back to anime and the game Samurai Shodown. Anyone who can cut through things like butter is great in my books. And on top of that, he has the mobility of a ninja. I as far as MGS2 just being this piece to confuse the buyers (Kojimas choice). But no, I think those days are over.
"anyone who can cut through things like butter is great in my books." anyone who risks his life to save Snake is great in my books!
He is such a gloomy character though, he is a badass when it comes to fights but when it comes to non-action sequences he's boring as hell.
Lol! They agree with him, but they disagree with you agreeing with him!
Sometimes I feel that I am the only person who actually liked MGS2! I have a friend that that said he didnt like the Raiden and it was disappointing not playing with Snake in MGS2. WTF?!?! You can play with Snake in the Oil tank section! You just have to answer the questions right the first time you boot the game. Its not the games fault you didnt played MGS1! I liked MGS2! I liked Raiden and the way the story revolved around him in order to make him a high caliber soldier like Solid Snake. I know he looks a bit gay and all but it didnt matter to me. I liked the game´s story and characters. Its a japanese game with typical over reacted japanese emotions while crying or laughing but its a really well done game overall! IMO, it might be the worst game in the Playstation series but its still one of the best story driven games I´ve played.
they disagreed that you agreed?
I would have loved to play as Snake, but Raiden had the same abilities Snake had at the time and more. People say they hated how he was so emo, always complaining or whatever reasons. But that's because he's a vulnerable character. He's no super genetic soldier like Solid Snake. He was being misled all the time by everyone. By the end of the game, you could tell he was about to breakdown from all the strings that were being pulled on him. Even we were as confused as him, or more, by the end of the game. I'm pretty sure most people didn't like the game just because of the bait and switch. But if you can look past that, the game is awesome in its own right.
Agreed MGS4 is what changed my mind about Raiden, even though I enjoyed MGS2 i did feel like i was some how cheated that Snake wasn't the main character.
I thought Raiden was all style, no substance in that game. He was a lot more interesting in MGS2.
Alas I hated playing as MGS2 it was such a tease not to be able to play as Snake. But as soon as I played MGS4 and saw awesome Mecha Raiden Holy Crap! I was like ya now he's a bada$$ and I would have loved to play as him. Can't wait for Rising since you can finally play as him in his awesome Mecha suit and the slicing gameplay looks like a blast!
Nah. The game is a spinoff and Most people are aware. If you're a die hard fan and dont like Raiden I guess you'll have to stick to MGS:Peace Walker on PSP ( which is a sequel to MGS4) I already have the game in japanese but I dont understand squat So I'll have to get me a English copy of the game soon enough. as for Rising I cant wait to play the game. There's nothing to hate about the Trailer I've seen from E3.
peace walker isn't a sequel to 4, its more of a sequel to MGS3 but a prequel before the Solid Snakes comes in I will get MGR, just because i was not one of those people that hated Raiden, i am just dissapointed that it isn't relating the MGS games , or you won't need prior knowledge of them to understand the story. It seems like they are starting over with the story then.
Peace Walker is a sequel to Portable Ops. (Yes it is canon, yes it is just as awesome)
Peace walker takes place BEFORE MGS4.
As long as he stops with the emo crap he will do good on Rising. Never will be a Gray Fox, but he would do fine.
LOL, didn't Gray Fox take pleasure in Snake hurting him. That's a bit emo. Or maybe not.
True but they explaiened why he was how he was in MGS4. Kojima shouldn't had mess with MGS1 IMO but oh well.
Can't stand Raiden. If I wanna' see someone cry, I'll do it in a mirror.
Geez, am I one of the few people who actually liked Raiden from MGS2? I mean these whiny-emo comments are a bit overkill. He wasn't that bad.
Internet=Bitching, I bet most of the people complaining about this game wouldn't say shit if they got a chance to talk to "The Voice of God" himself.
I don't really care, because the damage / cutting system looks amazing.
Waaahhh, I'm stuck in 2001. I hate change. Face it, Kojima manipulated gamers, expectations, and the media to pull off the greatest bit of PR censorship EVER, which perfectly tied into the theme of the game. Jack the Ripper was killing people when he was 6. That is not "emo." Jack is meant to be a counterpoint to the gruff design of Snake. That is not "emo." Jack's relationship with Rose, the Colonel, and those around him was instrumental to the S3 project and the manipulation of the masses of society. That is not "emo." So whine some more, just because he wasn't Snake doesn't mean he was a bad character.
I never understood why people wanted Snake and a Snake clone. Glad Raiden is different, and he definitely came into his own in MGS4
I'm calling this Ninja Raiden; I don't think it really needs Metal Gear in it's name to sell.
and Raiden a great character, period. Rising will be another great game by one of the best Devs in the business.
MGS:Lady Boy Raiden Rising
i love raiden since MGS 2... ;)
is still one of the greatest crimes ever commited in gaming. Nobody wants to play as the lead singer of a Visual Kei band in an espionage game.
well look at it like this. At least he's not an early 80's action flick rip-off like Snake. That came out sounding bad, did it? Well so did your witty comment. Oh and I'm referring to Snake Plissken, for all those wondering what the hell I'm babbling about :)
"well look at it like this. At least he's not an early 80's action flick rip-off like Snake. That came out sounding bad, did it? Well so did your witty comment." Apparently reading up on "admitted homages" is not your forte...
Never had a problem with Raiden.
I never actually had any problem with Raiden in MGS2. Appreciated the different perspective.
I think all the gamers felt the right to be cheated, thanks to the freaking trailer of MGS 2, I remember a fighting scene in the trailer, with Lady Luck you saw Snake taking cover behind some crates. With all his bullets flinging away from her! AND I WENT CRAZY!! ............Then i played it, and got introduced to a "rookie". who called himself Snake too, then changed it to Jack?! LOL Man I felt SO betrayed by Kojima, then he redeemed himself with MGS 3 and 4! But I wont get Rising, seeing its Kojima productions B-Team working on it
I played the Subsistence version so I got to play Snake :-)
LOL must've of been weird playing as Snake, and hearing Raidens voice the whole time
It's just a hack and slash. In the Official playstation magazine they said it's designed around the sword sequences in MGS4/MGS2, but obviously designed to be better - more fluid. It also says that they believe there the current generation of Metal Gear developers... and they want MGSR to be the future, with sequels - and all that. Wasn't happy to read.
Seeing Raiden stop a zillion tons heavy battleship almost made me rip the game out of the ps3 without touching the eject button. I frankly got no idea how can a relatively realistic playable character be THAT MUCH worse than a non-playable super saiyajin ninja robocop without a lower jaw. In mgs2, when you played with Raiden, the motherfunking graphics got a LEVEL UP, and became BETTER. that was an anthological moment in gaming, at least for me, never seen before. And raiden was awesome even back then, people just didn't recognize it until mgs4. And oh yeah, raiden is pure sh*t in mgs4, if I wanted to watch an anime I'd go get one. Bleach or something far away from reality like that. In my books, mgs4 was as big of an insult as there can be, and I could easily bet all my money that kojima wasn't in charge, any real fan of the series can see that.
I fail to see how a Super Saiyan Ninja Robocop with a cybernetic lower jaw can be bad even if he's unplayable and unrealistics.
"if I wanted to watch an anime I'd go get one. Bleach or something far away from reality like that. " Yeah! Shame on the Japanese for being...Japanese! Those bastards!
swords and subterfuge go together better than most of you will admit.
Did everyone play the same MGS4 I did? If anything, it made me hate Raiden more. Not only was he emo, his complaining went up 10 fold. "IT RAINED THE DAY I WAS BORN!" Well, boo hoo poor Raiden, poor Jack the Emo Cyborg Ninja. Just because he got some moves, doesn't mean he became any less of a bitch.
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