Microsoft product director for Xbox Aaron Greenberg has claimed that Xbox 360 camera Kinect - which has just been given a hefty £130 pricetag - is better value for consumers than Sony's Move peripheral.
defenetly not true,move is much better then kinect imo! microsoft lied all the time,on commercials we saw like 3,4 people playing,and the true is that only 2 can play on 1 kinect,second of all this is very expensive,and tird TELL ME WHAT WILL HARDCORE GAMER DO WITH KINECT ANYWAY????
... I don't care very much for either. Move seems a bit more affordable. kinect's pricing is ridiculous.
GreenBS, ehh NO!
@Yi At least Move has some games we can play. Edit: By games, I mean full games like Killzone 3, Sorcery, Echochrome 2, Socom 4, Little Big Planet 2 and Resident Evil 5
yet another day at work huh Greenberg ? trolling that is keep up the good work and you'll get promoted to master troll
I don't really care what Mr Greenberg is saying for quite some time.
Shouldn't of done that...... *anticipates kb's next anti natal video*
is to be ignored. If Kinect is better/more-convenient/whateve r-you-want than Move I don't know and I won't say, everyone will decide based on what they most like. But the more AG talks, the more he makes me believe the contrary of whatever he's talking about..
In terms of pricing if I'm not mistaken Kinect is cheaper since it's a bundle deal for all (two) players. This is the only way I can conceive what GB is saying to be true, I see no other justification towards what he is saying. The PR trick though is that better value=/= more desirable product in the case of Kinect. And though GB may be technically correct (I can't read the article currently so I may be missing something), there are strings attached to what he says. Of course, PR talk is always like this. I don't know who he expects to fool on the internet. Of course nonsense like this becomes the slogan for fanboys and I know I'll hear a fanboy somewhere out there repeating this line
BAM! There it is... another Greentard spin-comment, better value? Right! how I couldn't see it, I mean just $150 for a motion control add-on just for only 2 Players, great value /s
Neither is better value they both suck
Oh wait. :O Or how the $150 HD-DVD added on to your 360 is better value than a PS3 with Bluray built into it. Oh wait. :O Or paying $50 a year to play the same games that are free-to-play on any other console. Oh wait. :O
Slim Arcade + Kinect + Kinect Adventures = $299. PS3 Slim + Sports Champions + Move pack = $399. Let's say we want to play with another person (after all, most are party games) you'll need to add another $80 to the Move. But you may need to buy 2 wands, in this case, $50. Total PS3 Move Bundle for 2 players: $530. Kinect and Kinect bundles are definitely the best value for your money.
Aquanox, You must have stopped learning math at a grade 2 level....
I could do the same thing. I only want a 1-Player experience. Xbox Slim + Kinect + Kinect Adventures = $299.99 + $200 + $50 = $550 PS3 Slim + Move + EyeToy + Game = $299.99 + $50 + 40 + $40 = $480 Oh, what do you know. There's the PS3 Move Bundle PS3 + EyeToy + Move + Game for only $399 There you go. Kinect is expensive as hell.
the price of a new bigger house/apartment if you want to play Kinect.
at least in KB's commercial, he just emphasized on the need for buttons and not mentioning any of the competitor but Greenturd here ALWAYS find a way to mention others while promoting his own product! insecurity much? - I'm not bashing Kinect or whatsoever but Greenturd is ridiculous as always!
I think he's already been announced GodKing of the Trolls. He passed 'Master Troll" status LONG ago.
I feel sorry for those poor people who believes him
Move not only a better value but more importantly has better games.
Yeap, Move have more than 40 Games in list. Including Casual and Core. At least I can rememeber 9 Core Games for Move.
drugs better value than bread.
Do you know where to get some good drugs?
what a turd, better value my arse! it has no games, you have to have special clothing, you have to do all sorts of stupid things. while move has already shown great games that will have support, and it has the option of having games where you can sit down if you want or play standing.
Special clothing just like in the emperor's new clothes...lol Kinect the real life adaptation of the emperor's new clothing....come back MS when you have at least 1 good game with the investment
He should see the Kung-Fu LIVE trailer
If Kinect is $150 and Move is $100 and Move comes with a game and sony is promising way more hardcore titles and the biggest turnoff about Kinect is that you have to stand up while playing it. How the hell is Kinect the better value?
MS does say that by the time Kinect launches they plan on fixing it so you can play sitting down as well. so that should not be a problem.
@ zootang Let me get this straight...you are willing to spend more money on a peripheral for a game that uses the original controller that you already own.... o.O LOL I love the mentality of the Sony Fanboy. Kinect is $150 and can play up to 4 players. Move will cost you $50 per controller, $30 per navigation portion. That right there is $80 bucks. Buy 2 and now its $160 which is $10 more expensive than Kinect. Don't forget if you don't have an Eyetoy, that right there will cost you an additional $40. So if you want to make things equal. In order to have Move play up to the same amount of players as a $150 kinect, you will need to spend $320 Plus $40 for the eyetoy. That is a possible expense of $360 where as Kinect is only $150. I know Know, you will only want 2 so that you and a friend can play because 4 is just crazy right, fine, so now instead of $320 for 4 controllers, you are only spending $160 + eyetoy if you don't already own one which is STILL more expensive than Kinect and remember, Kinect can still play up to 4 players. Therefore, if Value is the cost of what you are willing to spend on a product, then Greenburg is right. The cost of Kinect is much cheaper than Move.
Well actually, kinect is confirmed for only 2 player right now, await more word for 4 player availability. You are forgetting the bundle and use of existing dualshock controllers to complement move controller.
You are speaking out of your arse man, The nunchucks arnt needed, a dualshock 3 controller can be used. Move is a better deal when bundled, also move actually has core games, its not all shitware like kinect. "Let me get this straight...you are willing to spend more money on a peripheral for a game that uses the original controller that you already own.... o.O " - yes i defo would, it changes the experience completely
this is Microsofts last chance to keep da xbox360 on da map this generation....i dnt kno how well M$ will buy out Wii fans or casual gamers wit dis EXPENSIVE, not so casual and definently not so core motion controle, but this is their last chance to keep themselves frm drowning down to 3rd place this gen Good luck to M$ tryin to buy out consumers this holiday season wit cheap consoles, USELESS but over-hyped and flashy motion gimmiks and Justin Bieber tho cuz SONY is gonna shake shit up wit GT5, LBP2, Coke Ads and PS Move, i see Sony goin strong till da end (cant forget their exclusive lineup)
Kinect = $150.00 Move setup = (wand x2) $100.00 (Camera) +$30.00 for a total of $130.00 Being able to sit while you game = PRICELESS
simple he's insane....
are you Aaron Greenberg's one of multiple accounts here in N4G?
IN SALES! simply because its made be Microsoft on da xbox. Xbots support microsofts sales like hell. they will buy anything made by them just to have one more thing to brag about and to see it sell HOWEVER as fo gaming, this is gonna be da most useless shit on da planet. da Wii Fit did well but as for this, idk. i just cant wait to see xbox fanboys go and buy this then go on youtube and make vids on how well it sold but dont use it cuz they kno its useless(No Halo)lol while playstation fans buy Move and actually enjoy a new way to enjoy their favorite games and at da end of da day, dats wat matters most. Gaming experience!
... I don't care very much for either. I can see both failing miserably.
Not Alan Greenbung
Aaron not Alan, lol
All done on purpose
i dont see much value in either till they give us some real hardcore games... n i dont think the casuals are gonna run out n give ya 300+ bucks ta play wii knock offs without a wii mote...
Socom 4, RE5, Killzone 3 is not hardcore enough?
It is for me nycredude!
@nycrdude You forgot RUSE, but I dont rroded is talking about MOVE.
SOCOM 4 alone gives me the value for the Move. Same cannot be said for the Kinect...
Hell no. The quality between the two is massive in terms of difference. Besides, Sony's products are always way more high quality than the stuff Microsoft comes out with.
true also remember the 3dv camera is tech rejected by ninty and sony as for the price the fallowing is a list of things 130 will buy 1.full set of move gear with extra wand 2. a 5770 graphics card 3. 3-5 ps3 games depending on title 4. 13 months subscription to wow 5. food for 1 for a month 6. 10 large pizzahut pizzas 7. blueray drive and hd graphics card to use it with 8. 80 pints of beer 9. nappies for a baby for a month 10. 1 kinect unit......
Its certainly is even just for 2 players. But for the new owners the bundle is a massive deal. $299 for Kinect,game and 360S Vs $399 for the PS3/Move for one player. The Kinect bundle makes Kinect actually $99. Kinect will definitely expand MS's audience, far far more than Move will expand Sony's audience.
I'll show you this in the eyes of a casual gamer. 150$ for Wii and it comes with a very large base for casual/kiddie games vs 299$ for an Xbox with a camera that lags, has 60$ motion games, and has all these "rules". OR 399$ for a complete family package of media hub, Blu-ray, Wide variety of games (LBP, U2, GT5, etc.), 3D support, HD Wii capabilities, 40$ MOVE games, Large HDD, Swappable HDD, Longer life, Bluetooth, 7.1 sound, and Precision.
Wrong, OMEGA per usual, you cant compare the PS3 system to the bundle as the massive "4GB" make that comparison null and void Now do the 299.99 Xbox (with a HARD DRIVE)+Kinect Seperate to do a real comparison then tell me the price math wizard??? Skittles!
Omega, serious question... How much does MS pay you a month?
Look it is my N4G stalker who can't be man enough to have a conversation with me through PM's. He messages me and then blocks me like a little scared girl. OSU, be a man... not a boy. I could give a rats ass what you think about me, kid. You use big words... your mommy would be proud, kid.
That's the problem...its not a conversation. Its you calling me fanboy because I don't agree with your one-sided ignorant comments. Its also you calling me immature for the same reason. You are also trying to make fun of me because I use my words. How does that make sense? You can't defend your arguments, all you can do is attack the person that calls you out for them. Who's really the little kid?
Way to threaten bodily harm over the net. Guessing Pennywise must think you are tough now /s @Pennywise You seemed to have upset a couple of people with your comment. You can always tell that school is out for the summer when you get those types of reactions. Don't worry Penny, September isn't too far off
"Kinect will definitely expand MS's audience, far far more than Move will expand Sony's audience" you know this because? "Even if it's just two players?" so you admit there are contradictions to the original E3 video from 2009 where 3 or 4 people were playing. The bundle is nice but you forget that the bundle is the arcade bundle. Talk about value, at least if there is a PS3/Move bundle, you still get the full hardrive space and by itself with the 360 s (250 gb), it'll be 450 bucks. And don't start with the "it's for 1 player" noneness. A lot of us play games alone and go online to play other people. Sure you get to play with someone else with kinect but does really make it have so much more value?
People forget this was suppose to be a party item too. 2 is a couple not a party.
Get retard or die tryin'
And in the end the consumer suffers since they get a low-quality 360 model with a hard drive so small you can't even fit a movie on there.
He just couldn't resist could he? I predict this thread will erupt into a MASSIVE flame war, in light of MS' revelation of Kinect's pricing.
I really don't care, the deciding factor for me will be the strength of the games on both platforms.
Here we go, let the rounds begin
wow he really said that? im shocked
with launch titles like these of course it is!! http://www.vertigogaming.ne...
lololololololololololololol, see how they put core in the title for the casual games, lololololololol
only valuable if it is fun and works well. which it doesnt.
I'd much rather pay $50 more and get a Wii.
Both systems come with a "free" pad. Both systems best games are build around that pad. The pad offers the best value. Pad pad pad :)