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First Impressions of Microsoft's Kinect - Way of the Nerd

"Microsoft is introducing the Kinect to the general public through the Kinect Experience Mobile Demo Tour until October 24th. You will have a chance to play Kinect and even share your opinions about it with Microsoft employees, hopefully leading to a better product as Microsoft is still trying to work out all the kinks. Below is a detailed account of our Kinect experience in New York City."

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rroded3637d ago

"I was already planning on buying a Kinect, but I feel that this event sealed the deal for me. Getting to play with the Kinect and seeing how precise it is"

so what no lag n the guys impressed....

after that macy's demo tho... maybe it jus dont reconize black people lol

wotnerd3637d ago

I am black enough and it recognized me very well lol.

Also, no lag is indeed impressive, given all the previous reports about there being lag or too much lag.

Bigpappy3637d ago

When you go to youtube, the good Macy's experiences outweigh the bad and prove that it is about correct setup and positioning. Those who have good directions on where to stand, seem to be having a good time with it.

IdleLeeSiuLung3637d ago

I think that is the trend around here, and in general online for anything MS is hate. Over the years though it has gotten a little better.

Bigpappy3636d ago

Type "Kinect Macy's" and you will see what people who visit are doing and what they think. You don't need to read article and tell everyone which one are honest and which are bias. I can't remember you saying the samething when they posted that fat PS3 fanboy at Macy's in NY standing 3 ft from Kinect and saying that it can't detect him at 6'5''. You guy spent a whole lot of time hating Kinect, when you could be hepling Sony sell the Move.
Here is move in action:
http://n4g.com/news/565952/...

Cevapi883636d ago

hej bigpappy, ever seen the bottom of an avatars shoe????

its AMAZING

Anon19743636d ago

I just watched some of the Youtube videos of reactions from Macy's demo's. I saw one guy give it a 6 out of 10 and say it was good for "little kids and soccer moms, maybe" I saw two people complain about the lag. Watching them play, the lag at the Macy's demo's was very noticeable. There is a definite and noticeable delay from when a player jumps in games like the river raft game and when the avatar on the screen moves. I also noticed little kids struggling with Kinectimals. The game didn't even respond to their movements for the most part.

It's very much the same thing I noticed at the E3 presentation.

Apolloeye3636d ago

Damn, how much are Microsoft paying these bloggers...

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rroded3637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

good ta know its not racist lol

so lag was a non issue? n u played the wii sport thingy hows the variety on that n how well do they use kinetic as compared to the real wii sports controls?

ps thx for the reply m8 pleasure ta help approve this :D

wotnerd3636d ago

Thanks a lot! The sports games were fun, and having played sports games on the Wii before, I have to admit this was more fun and more interactive. The look of the games isn't something I liked all too much, they do look like straight up Wii games so I hope Microsoft would stray from that, as I stated in the article.

rroded3636d ago (Edited 3636d ago )

yeh np wotnerd

Im kinda wondering about the lack of hd graphic worthy games 2 hope kinect aint sappin 2 much processing power...

Anyways keep posting hope you guys get lots of hits neat site XD

p.s Im guessing day one purchase for you eh. Let us know if its worth the hype since no one else i know is getting one.

n4gno3637d ago

When you have 99 bad impressions, and 1 good, the xbox fanboyz believe the last one, but when you have 99 good reviews/previews for ps3 materials, one stupid statement from greenberg, or others liars like kotaku, eurogamer, gizmodo, .. is enough to forget the good ones :)

poor people, buying several time the same crappy console (for more $ than the others superior products), and defending ms all the way, no matter what (lies, inferior hardware, kinect lies, inferior exclusives)
annie lennox "some people want to abuse you, some people want to be abused" :)

KingME3637d ago

Bandaids are on the top shelf behing the KY Jelly. Help yourself.

demonddel3636d ago

@KingME funniest sh!+ i ever heard on here

oohWii3636d ago

That shit was hilarious! Bubbles.

peyote3637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

Read the article, guys. It's plainly basically an advertisment for kinnect. You'd have to be pretty naive to take any of the claims there as hard fact. Clearly the site owners got a bit of a 'deal' in exchange for their article. Or at least I hope they did to help mitigate how foolish they look.

Just one example:

"I really want to see high-end games created by other developers in the near future; playing an FPS on the Kinect is bound to be exciting."

I mean, come on. Seriously? How clueless of kinect's limitations can he be? Someone explain how this awesome FPS is actually going to work?

"we talked about how cool it would be to be able to rip the pin of a grenade off with one’s teeth and throw it in a FPS."

Right, but actually **moving places** and -you know- **aiming a gun**, not so good. I'm REALLY looking forward to that FPS.

Sorry to be negative. But if you're going to write rubbish, expect to get called on it.

Trroy3637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

Well.. technically you can be a FPS, merely by shooting and being in first-person.

Kinect could have rails FPS games, where you don't do any moving directly... and maybe you could aim with your arm, if the targets were big enough. And... uh... nod your head to shoot, or say "die, alien scum!" or something?

...yeah. Doesn't sound too fun to me, either.

PandemicPrawn03637d ago

A FPS using kinnect should be a traditional FPS experience using a controller.

Kinnect could be used for head tracking to provide a 3D like effect as shown in the attached video.

As the video will show you could do the same thing with the Wii and the Move providing you have a sensor on your head. Kennect can track body parts like your head in 3D space without the use of sensors.

At least I think that would work.

Trroy3637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

I'm not so sure that Kinect can detect the direction you are, for example, looking in. Remember it cannot pick up fingers reliably, so eyes seems like it might be a chore as well -- possibly complicated by users wearing glasses or not, etc.

Besides, if you look away from the screen... doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of having control tied to your looking? Kinect might add arm gestures to shooters, but I think that'd be about it -- and it would require that you loose your hands from the controller, anyway, so it couldn't be anything time-critical.

Now, if MS came up with a pair of one handed controllers... that might be interesting. Of course, it would also cost more, and put some holes in their "play without a controller" ad campaign. Yet, it would actually have a lot of potential then, as I'm sure Kinect is a much more advanced gesture-recognizer than either of its motion controller competitors, what with the depth camera and all.

ruiner44823637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

lolwut?

Qui-Gon Jim3637d ago

I am really hoping that developers do that pseudo-3D effect in games. It can be done with just any camera with the right software, though. There is video of head tracking being done on the PSEye, and Gran Turismo 5 does it, too.

FragMnTagM3637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

Do you have a webcam? If you do, you can use facial tracking software for free on it right now. Link: http://3d2f.com/tags/webcam...

Look through them, as there are like 8 or so different programs that track your face with a normal USB 2.0 webcam. You really think the Kinect cannot track your head?

The first one on the list would be friggin awesome in a game. Actually read the descriptions of the programs I gave you a link for i.e. clicking on the program and reading about it. All of them are pretty damn cool. If that can't get your mind ticking, then you have some really thick fanboy goggles on.

Raoh3637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

edit.

peyote3636d ago (Edited 3636d ago )

"Look through them, as there are like 8 or so different programs that track your face with a normal USB 2.0 webcam. You really think the Kinect cannot track your head?"
It can show where your head is located in a frame. That's completely different to recognising minute changes in the the direction your head is facing, and replicate them exactly on screen, WITHOUT ANY LAG.

Trust me, if it could be done, microsoft would have shown it by now.

But look, if a core gamer wants to get kinnect, go ahead, but don't expect it to be good for more than dancing games and fitness. Any value it would add to a FPS, or pretty much any other type of game is negligable.

Don't get me wrong, I think kinnect will sell through the roof. But I also think any core gamer (like anyone who posts on here) who gets it over the ps3 move is going to wind up feeling silly when the next Oblivion comes out with full 1-1 sword control, and 360 owners get to sit playing with their controller. Not to mention FPSs & RTSs with pointer control, etc. etc.

But ya know, at least you'll have dancing. (BTW, I really like dancing games, but I'm not about to give up everything else for it)

Trroy3636d ago (Edited 3636d ago )

@Frag:

Yes, webcams can do facial tracking well. Consider the distance you are from your webcam for a moment, and then think about the distance a Kinect user needs to be from their TV. Remember Kinect video rez is only 640x480.

Also, ponder the fact that webcams tend to update at 60 Hz, and use a significant amount of the horsepower of a PC CPU when doing face tracking. Kinect updates at 30 Hz, but also need to analyze skeletal info and a depth image, and would probably need to a good portion of one of the Xenon's CPU cores to do so. That, and looking away from the screen to change your looking direction onscreen, seems kind of contrary to playing a shooting game, doesn't it? Wouldn't you want to.. you know, look at the screen when you turn, rather than turn and not look at the screen while turning?

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wotnerd3636d ago

We wrote that on our own time, and we get nothing out of it. And we, my girlfriend and I, are glad to share our opinions like that. If PlayStation Move came to NYC, I would gladly go and give it as much time as I gave Kinect. It was a fun peripheral to play with, that's our article straight to the point and we never claimed anything to be fact.

Clearly, this is an "opinion piece" anyway...

peyote3636d ago (Edited 3636d ago )

Fair enough, I was being kind of a jerk anyway. It's cool of you to make an effort to write your opinions down. Just Justin Beiber advertising and BS from microsoft at their e3 conferences has put a bitter taste in people's mouths about it all. Glad you're not taking it personally, and I must admit aside from my dislike of kinnect the site and your article is pretty good.

Spenok3637d ago

The title says it all, "the way of the nerd."

EliteAssassin813637d ago (Edited 3637d ago )

thats pretty funny what you just said. I can imagine everyone in a multi-player match online wearing their headsets screaming die alien scum everytime they wanted to kill someone

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