Console failure is a terrible thing, especially when they both die at the same time. Here are 5 ways you can try and stave off YLOD or RROD.
never had ylod, but incase i ever will, (3 years running without one), ill bookmark this.
Looks like the article is talking about preventative measures, not how to fix the issue once you get it. I'm considering opening up my console to clean it out.
I vacuum my launch 60gb pretty regularly and actually opened it up twice to clean it out. If you want a thorough cleaning, you're going to have to gut it - meaning pull out your blu-ray drive, hard drive, motherboard, everything - just to get to the fan which is connected to the motherboard. That's where most of my dust was, right by the fan When I closed it up this last time, I only had three "extra" screws left over :) It really is easy though. Just takes some nerves, a good guide, and some patience And also a special screwdriver that I got from Amazon for $2.00 USD that I needed to remove that first tamper-free screw. Not all PS3's have that first tamper-free screw though, or so I heard. But it's right under your void warranty sticker, remove the rubber nub under the sticker, and the screw will be shaped like a hollow star with a rod in the center. Here's the link for the bold... http://www.amazon.com/Tampe... Guess it's $5 now Good Luck!
To prevent RROD (not completely maybe but this is a must thing to do); install your games on HDD and play it from there. Heat generated from the DVD driver is the main reason that makes the system hot. I'm using my Xbox 360 since last May and never encountered a problem. Oh and if you are going to buy an external fan, go for the ones that comes with their own adapter and doesn't use the power of 360's. I don't think there is much to do for YLOD besides keeping the system in an open area though. PS3's cooling system is much better than Xbox 360's so there is no need to take drastical measures.
Installing to HDD on 360 is a very good option, I actually wasn't doing it for a while, but I thought I'd do it for Mass Effect 2 and OMG it is so much better. There's so much less noise and the 360 really doesn't seem to heat up as much. So I'd definitely recommend that you install the game you are playing the most.
I got YLOD for the first time ever on my launch 60GB FAT. I promptly borrowed a heat gun from my father-in-law, and now it's working again! To prevent failure in the future, I installed a fan into my entertainment center to help air move around the PS3.
How did I get a disagree? Insanity.
@above - Don't worry yourself, there are a lot of fanboys around.
lol...really? the article titled "5 Tips to PREVENT..." is an article about how to prevent something? my god! what would we do without your astute observations?
Did all of that, YLOD twice anyway. The 2nd one was like he says, happened upon startup. The first one was right in the middle of playing Fallout 3, though. It was a cold winter night too, couldn't even hear the fan.
Well RatFuker seemed like he was talking about what to do to fix YLOD not prevent it. Hence the correction by lalalala
If you open it, you void the warranty and you can't trade it! I'd rather trade a console and still get some cash or credit towards a new console... but then again, that's just my way of doing things!
I've never had either, but i've had 2 360 dvd drives and one ps3 bluray drive go bad.
I did that with my ps3 and what worked wonders for me is i took off the top cover ( the part that says in silver letters Playstation ) and just blew the 300lb air compressor we have and i had a whole bunch of dust come out and now my ps3 runs quite and i think cooler.
"When I closed it up this last time, I only had three "extra" screws left over :) " XD I hate when that happens.
I like to elevate my machine an extra quarter inch. I use little felt pieces used to keep furniture from wrecking hard wood. The extra space underneath allows for better ventilation.
@Spydiggity - Yeah lol, I was replying to the dude above, seemed like he thought it was for fixing YLOD or RROD.
so my tip is... dont worry, and enjoy your console/consoles
My Ps3 died after 3 years of awesome game time. Sad to see it go, but at least I still have my PS3 Slim. Gonna miss the good ol' fatty though. As for the 360... that's just another, very frustrating, story.
I think its fair to say that the fail rate this generation has been really bad for both MS and Sony. How ever one thing missing from this is for RRoD is the fact that the RAM blocks fail. I currently working on my 360 to fix RRoD, thermal paste has been removed and replaced with a much better one. xbox starts and runs NXE and dvds, but when a game is loaded it lasts 10 minutes then frezzes with blue lines. This is caused by the ram blocks there are many fixes but some require a heat gun. Personally I think it was unfair of MS to pass out over 400 free xbox slims to the people at their press confrence at E3, when people are stuck with RRoD that are out of warrenty. I can see why they did it, so the press would help boost advertising of the console, but come on, take care of your customers first! (Again my own personal view, Don't hate)
mine seems to be on its way out i have 2 days on exented warrenty gonna try to get it switched out hopefuilly they will rather then repair
To skip RROD buy PS3
Really... do you feel better now that you got that out? I got a better idea... Don't buy either console and you won't have to worry about anything! Then again, I don't think anyone wants to do that. But since it seems like more fanboys (on either side) have more fun coming to N4G and complaining, maybe they should just not buy a console. The consoles they have must be collecting a lot of dust or they just don't buy games.
There is a reason you only have 1 bubble. People don't want to listen to you.
my ps3 is acting up 3 days left on extended warrenty i think ill try to get it exchanged
I used to think the PS3 was incapable of of yellow lighting. Then two of my friends had to break out their heat guns in the same week and take it apart and fix them.
The funny thing is the i almost never turn off my PS3, its ON for like 12 hours a day...so what is this YROD you speak of?
I got YLOD twice, repaired both times by myself I think the reason i got it was coz i used a stand, this 1 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/... i noticed after i got YLOD that there was these vents that where bein covered over coz was usin the stand (i give it 2 my mate in the end lol) Its been 6 months since i last got YLOD, my STILL PS3's goin strong, i wonder how many times i can repair it till i need 2 buy a Slim?
Hellsvacancy- How much does it cost to get ur PS3 repaired if it gets YLOD? If its beyond repair, does Sony just give you a new one? I've had my 60GB since 2007 and this year it seems like I might have to get it repaired. Often times I need to flip the power switch twice for it to turn on.
sony its 180 i believe but if your like me i found a guy on craigslist that used to work for sony and had all the repair equipment that did it for $45. :)
Actaully, I've fixed a friend's PS3 twice. A heat gun is about $25, you buy it once. The thermal paste is $10, which covers about... 3-4 repairs. Possibly more. Then, if you don't have a T-10 scredriver, you can get one for about 5 to 6 bucks, but I bought a big collection of screwdrivers for 10 bucks. You only buy that once. So, initially, the first fix is $41-45 bucks, the next 2 or 3 are free, and then another 10 bucks, if you have really terrible luck with YLOD.
If your PS3 YLODs I think it's much cheaper to buy a brand new PS3. Sony will fix it for 150 bucks, but they don't even guarantee it's 100% work.
They give you a 90 day warranty after repair, so that's more or less a guarantee.
yeah what?...they give you a refurbished model of whatever you send in...including a 60gb, as that is the most common PS3 to pop...and a 90 day warranty on every refurbished model they send back...for $150 including shipping if you are out of warranty...i also have yet to hear of a refurbished ps3 ylod'ing, as many say they use better solder when 'fixing' broken ps3's...
I've got a refurbished one right now, and imo the £150 is extortionate. I'd rather they gave me a new PS3, because tbh I don't really care about the PS2 B/C that I have in my 60GB. Plus warranty for 90 days is ridiculous, they should give another year's warranty, which is what electrical manufacturers usually do. Still if it dies again, I'll try and blag a free PS3 from Sony, apparently it works sometimes.
So the cause is overheating right? What component overheats and how do you fix it?
ball solder in gpu usually
I never had YLOD but i had RROD three times ..
I've never known anyone personally who's had a PS3 go on them, but every 360 owner I know has had at least one 360 red ring on them. I have two PS3's, a 40 GB fat and a 60 GB fat (now with a 250 GB drive slapped in it). I've had no issues with either. My 360 has red ringed on me twice and once the replacement console sent to me gouged rings in 3 of my games before I figured out what happened. I'm on my 4th 360. Needless to say, my 360 doesn't see much playtime. I'd advise anyone that hasn't purchased a 360 yet to go for the 360S, don't be tempted to pick up the old 360's. It's just not worth the hassle if something does go wrong. When I first heard reports of 360's dying I thought it was just a vocal minority who had bad luck and just wrote these reports off and it was to my own detriment.
I'm the only person I know personally that's had a ps3 ylod (60gig launch model, under extended warranty, but sony wouldnt send a 60gig model, new or refurbed) But that's mainly because I'm the only person I know personally that has a ps3 :( Everyone I know has had atleast 1 rrod, someone I know has been through about 7 Yet I've had an xbox for nearly 2 years and haven't had any problems
my PS3 60gb fat ylod'd about a month ago...had it in a few new location for a few weeks, did notice the fans running a lot more than normal, but still figured it was ok...I was wrong...
A ventilated ice chest
Take care of your console and you ought to be fine, if not then that sucks for you.
On my PS3 I can somehow make the fans go on full power allowing the insides to be cleared of any dust by holding onto the On switch and some other button that I can't remember right now. I've gotten the RRoD once, but never the YLoD...
Dude you aren't supposed to do that. That could actually mess up your PS3. Just lettin' you know.
Actually, there was a manual on how to do this that came with my Playstation 3. It's to help clear out any dust stuck inside. :) You should try it. =)
Nah its ok to do that, it tells you how to in a manual, it just blow dust out.
PS3s produce less heat horizontally. Not that having them vertically closes any vents, it's just having them horizontally helps airflow, and stops the build up of heat.
I have both consoles vertical with a fan directed at the "bottom" area where the heat is, like the hard drive and motherboard on the PS3 slim, discs come out warm and the console stays cool through the game time. external fans are a must if playing at room temperature without air conditioning
Vertical or horizontal, the PS3 always stays within acceptable levels. So it's really up to you. It's just cooler horizontally.
both consoles dead at same time wud really suk. my ps3 died the first time cuz i turned it off while it was installing (i know i know, retarded, i was in a rush) so i was forced to use my xbox....then i got error E47 which i thought was E74. E47 was jus hard drive failure, thankfully i got it working again, i didnt wanna resort to having to play the wii lol. but right now all consoles runnin good
now my ps3 slim is randomly having the sound go mute. fun times.
Is it true that the chances go up of getting YLOD if you have it vertical?
but like the #1 reason of this article states, i was playing marathons of MAG and after playing the last match i would immediately turn it off, bad move
Is it true that if you put your ps3 on the energy saver option will it help prevent the YLOD?
this is exactly what happened to my first model when i was playing killzone 2 extensively. luckily it can be fixed with a heater gun.
I for one think it's bullshit sony and microsoft make you pay to get your system fixed. It's their stupid fault for making machines that don't last. I never got the YLOD but I was playing Bioshock for only a couple hours and then turned off the console. Next time I turned on my ps3 it wouldn't read any type of disks and sony made me pay $150 bucks to repair it and my warranty had only been up for a damn month. If your going to charge that much money for a console at least make sure it lasts long enough to justify the purchase.
My PS3 had an overheating problem but irs now fixed with a fan sounds like a freaking lawnmower. But Im happy with it the 80gb PS2 games compatible MGS4 PS3 for me its the most beautiful console in the market *tear*
dont lay console flat on carpet.
My cousin's nephew did that and got YLOD. He has a slim now, but I don't know if he's changed his habits.
But, the last one was something that never really occurred to me. I've never had the RROD before, but after marathon game sessions I would always just sit around and talk to my buddies too.. & I obviously followed the other suggestions. Lots of air, and i always keep my 360 flat because of fear for the circle scratch... Maybe that's why my system I had from pretty much launch never RROD.. + lots of luck. haha.
"Console failure is a terrible thing" HAHAHA You mean 360 failure is a terrible thing? My PS3 never failed :) Not the fat one, not the Slim one.
100% rrod 5% ylod
You shouldn't HAVE to take steps to prolong the life of your console. It should just work. It should work if I want to keep it in my TV stand enclosure. It should work if I have it on the carpet They should work regardless. Nothing I've ever owned before the current gen of consoles has had so many problems. I went through nine 360's and my PS3 sounds like its about to give up the ghost. I shouldn't have to dick about, rearrange my shit and buy towels, intercoolers or any of that other bullshit just to play a fucking game. It should just WORK!
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nah its real. just didn't happened as frequent as the 360
Actually if the problem is related to GPU overheating, rather than giving you hours of free time until you turn off the console as it is stated in the article, the console immediately freezes and/or some weird colored pixels appear on the screen which gives you no option but to turn it off. And when you turn it back, bam. You see the red lights flashing at you. That's exactly what happened to my July 2006 manufactured old friend.
my fat PS3 has been going without a hitch for 2 and a half years now... knock on wood.
Never got or never heard of someone getting ylod, but I give you just one for RROD that works 100% - get rid of 360.
Still haven't fixed my PS3 ever since it got YLOD in December. I'll try and see if I can fix it this month. I did manage to open it though. The dumb thing that I did was leaving it open since I'm in vacation now.
How bout this. NOT BUY A XBOX 360.