Killzone 3 controls "closer to standard run-and-gun"

GOONL!NE writes: Guerrilla Games have confirmed in July 2010 edition of the Official PlayStation Magazine that Killzone 3 will have “a set of controls that will appeal to the vast majority of audiences.”

[gtsentry]

i guess most cod players will love this

[nikkisixx2]

Yeah, at this point I wish they would just keep the controls of Killzone 2 after the patch. Only people who sucked complained about it.

[DelbertGrady]

"It's the player, not the game." ;)

@raztad - So, basically all games have great controls and the ones who complain about them are just bad gamers? I'll remember that.

[raztad]

"It's the player, not the game."

When the rules are the same for everyone I'd say yes.

EDIT:

Dunno about all other games you are talking about. This is a KZ thread. There is a divide around KZ2 controls. If you could not adapt to them if your problem, many others did.

[Double Toasted]

Devs need to learn to not take away, but to add. Such a simple thing to inspire to...or not.

[La Chance]

Cant wait for all those 12 year olders in MW to flood in in KZ3.

[zootang]

At least give us the choice to be able to choose between sim and arcade controls.

@Below

I'm really pleased about it sticking to it's guns

[ShinMaster]

Soda would try to say Killzone has bad controls. The controls are fine. It's not supposed to be an arcadey game like COD or Halo! Not all FPSs have to play the same.
http://boardsus.playstation...
That should explain things better.

[Blaster_Master]

I bet the game sells twice as much now that they are catering to everyone, not just the minority of gamers on n4g.

[captain-obvious]

I love killzone I've played it for 100's of hours online

but they need to change the controls
and I think they should make them more BFBC2 like

[thematrix1298]

I bought KZ2 on release. I HATE the control lag. Because of this it causes motion sickness. I normally play FPS without any health issue but KZ2 makes me puke if I play for an hour. I hate what they did with KZ2 control.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

i guess lachance forgot this is a PS3 exclusive lol.

[Raf1k1]

All those CoD players who start playing KZ3 will only be playing it until the next CoD is released.

edit: If I don't like the new controls I'll stick with KZ2 for online FPS.

[thematrix1298]

Stop voting me down. I'm not the only one having problem with HL2 and KZ2 motion sickness. I play CSS, COD, MAG, MOH etc... no problem but these games do make me sick:

http://answers.yahoo.com/qu...
http://boardsus.playstation...

[D4RkNIKON]

The controls were fine the way they were after the patch. I do love hearing people bitch about it tho. I really don't care if they tweak the controls to make them a little more mainstream, I can't be more excited for this game. Maybe if they fix the main complaint people had with the game then there will be nothing left to complain about.

[thor]

@thematrix

Your motion sickness is not necessarily caused by the 150ms control lag as opposed to the 100ms control lag in most other games. GTA4 has more control lag than KZ2.

Your motion sickness is probably caused by
- Some underlying health problem leaving you susceptible
- Motion blur and effects used in KZ2

I guarantee you that wacky visual effects such as motion blur are much more likely to make you feel ill. Bad controls (if you consider them as such) just annoy you.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

think Thematrix means the floaty reticle not the heavy controls.

[inception123]

great. kz2 was like an exclusive resort reserved only for the elite now it is going to become a public pool for any trash(halo and cod fanboys)to play in. i don't mind the control changes at all and i didn't mind the old controls i just liked that it kept the halo and cod fanboys from ruining it like they do with those 2 games. all they do is camp, use glitches and dumb stuff like bunny hopping in a circle they have no skill at all and now they are going to bring kz3 down to that. hardcore fps games are officially dead and now the casual arcade shooter is all that is left.

[MysticStrummer]

@captain-obvious - Funny you would say that about BFBC2. I actually thought those controls felt waaay more sluggish than KZ2's. BFBC2 felt like controlling a heavy mech suit. At least KZ2 felt like controlling a human. I admit it's been a long time since I played KZ2 though, because it bored me faster than MW did, which is saying something. I just know I actually liked KZ2 for awhile and couldn't stand BFBC2 right away. @Soda - There are games with overly convoluted control schemes, but that's not what this is about. It's about the feel of the controls, and since all players in the game have to get used to that same feel then yeah it's the player not the game. OT - I agree with those who are upset about the apparent catering to the CoD heads. My problem with KZ2 had nothing to do with the controls. It was that it wasn't much different than every other FPS, except visually. The scale of MAG keeps me coming back for more. All other online "wars" are merely minor skirmishes in comparison.

[finbars75]

I absolutley agree with you.No matter how many times I put killzone 2 in after playing other games I just enjoy the controls just fine.Wonder how The COD fans are going to react to getting owned know matter how much the controls are fixed for them.Once a KIllZONE fan always a KILLZONE fan no matter how much the COD fans complain.Let the war begin and and let the best SOLDIER or HELGAST win.Oh and to Nickjkl down below guns weigh something where not holding plastic waterguns like COD.

[pixelsword]

Resistance 1 was perfect, they went for the "2 guns" and cod control scheme and crapped all over what the last game was.

[mastiffchild]

They REALLY want to pander to the people who didn't like the game having it's own ID? I liked KZ2 because it was a bit different but if they're going more generic then, for me, it'll lose almost anything it had that made it special. UI can't tell you how stupid and disappointing a mave I think this is. COD gamers only play other shooters between COD releases anyway so this is NO ay to bui.ld a copmmunity and they should have noticed thast last time out.

All they did by patching in controls which didn't fit the game was alienate those of us who would have stuck with them OVER MW2. Instead of making us loyal and building from there they appealed to people who simply didn't care much for the game anyway and were never staying post MW2. Idiotic and depressing as hell to see them disappear into the ranks of those games aping COD-where's our learning curve and where is our game that felt a little different? What about those who actually liked your game in the first place(and in the beta)when it felt individual? Is there going to be heavy auto aim assist? i'm NOT happy about any of this.

[webeblazing]

i was no problem to me i just had to adept. all you had to do is stop when you shooting it not a run n gun that what i like about it. get behind cove pop out, stop, burst fire, move, stop burst fire, run for cover its that easy and makes since

[sikbeta]

KZ3D will be Awesome no matter what, bring the COD-gamers to the Real Battlefield in KZ3D, they'll learn some lessons...

[rezzah]

I dont know about you but when the majority of gamers are fine with the game's controls dont FUCKING CHANGE IT.

[claterz]

I doubt the controls will be as fast paced as cod lol, I like the controls in kz2 because it feels realistic, guns are heavy so you shouldn't be able run around like you do in most other fps games.

[kneon]

That's one of the things that makes KZ 2 different, and now like so many other developers they are caving in to appeal to the masses. I was afraid this was going to happen as they have been implying such changes for a while, but now they've come out and explicitly stated it.

I understand why they are doing it but it still sucks

[nickjkl]

no the guns do not feel realistic in killzone 2

unless these guns are 75 pounds
stop making things up

[B00M]

Guns do not feel like that in real life, trust me in KZ2 the gun felt about 100KG's.

[kneon]

Well it's far more realistic than all those games in which guns have no weight or inertia. You have people running around with a Browning machine gun like it's made of plastic.

Find yourself a 30lb steel bar about 40inches long and try running around with it and see for yourself. I've held one and just moving side to side is slow and unstable, it has a lot of inertia.

Even a typical assault rifle is 6-10lbs and about 30 inches long. That doesn't sound like much but just try it, it's harder to handle than you would think.

[B00M]

Yeah I've handled the British Army SA80 and an HK416 and it's a lot more responsive than KZ2's gun. But not quite like COD guns. Yeah I agree with you kneon, a gun like a LMG should be more like KZ2 aiming whereas a gun like a SMG should be like COD.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Booo

Either way gonna shoot some fools in the face.

[talltony]

I am sure their will be a option for that classic killzone 2weight feel. Guerrilla knows some people love it while others hate it. Guerrilla is listening, dnt worry.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Hope you're right.

I can't wait to hear the chirp. Leave the kill chirp GG.

[talltony]

I am sure they will keep the chirp. That was the best part of killing someone.

[skwidd]

If anything, keep the weighty feel on rocket launchers and have them even more apparent on turrets. Also, I would suggest the rosshairs follow where the gun is pointing rather than where your head is turning.

[n4gno]

It's not the "weight feel" that people hate, it's the fact that the game is not for noobs, only skilled people are dominating, you can't win a single deathmatch against a better player (unlike cod).

people, aracde noobs from call of duty want auto-aim, and fps players don't want that !

[doctorspakles]

Wouldn't weighty guns just get you killed if others are using quicker to aim guns? Who would use the slower aiming guns? You would get owned. Nobody will choose a more difficult option when it means your k/d goes into the toilet.

I think they could give the smaller guns a COD feel while retaing the "weight" on the larger guns while upping their killing power. That way retain balance and increase fun.

[Inside_out]

I believe Herman when he says the controls are improved. It was the single biggest complaint about the game. KZ 2 sold a little over 2 million with a healthy AD campaign, stretched over 5+ years. I bought in to it and wanted to believe. I hope the GAME PLAY has improved. Run and Gun game play requires areas that you can...well...run and gun in. All those corridors will slow everything down. You really need to streamline the game play and weapons with quick respawns to keep the ADD nation happy. MW 2 does that and has sold 20+ million copies. Get to work Herman, you only have a couple of months left. I hope 3D doesn't steal all there time.

BTW...the actual controller is the biggest problem. I've read recently that a couple of companies are planing a 360 type controller for PS3. That would be a much needed addition...well at least for me.

Here's a look at the Mad Catz line of new controllers for PS3 and 360.

[UnwanteDreamz]

I don't agree. KZ3 can be alot better than KZ2 but not by being more like generic shooters. MW2 is shit IMO and no ammount of sales will change that. I want it to play better than that.

[finbars75]

Where playing for QUALITY not quanity of how many games you sell JACKASS.Thats always going to be the difference between KZ2 to other FPS they went for realism and good structure to there game.MWF went after noobs who are dumb enough to buy such a crap ass game when they should be learning how to play a more realistic game that has true gameplay and weight to it.The only other game that has accomplished this is Operation Flashpoint which gives you the true feel of what real warzones are like.Call IN THE DOGS OR NUKES OR CHOOPERS LOL.There is real war for you.

[n4gno]

don't even try to answer to that professional troll (or just dumb blind fan ?)

[doctorspakles]

Wow the elitist attitude never ceases to amaze. Just becasue you prefer a game that the MINORITY of gamers prefer, doesn't make you more discerning when it comes to FPS. It also doesn't make the game better. It also doens't make the MAJORITY (who like COD more), "noobs". All it means is that you, for whatever reason, like KZ2 better. But if your minority elite attitude helps you sleep at night go ahead and continue to call people who like COD "noobs"

Maybe, just maybe, COD sells more because it is actually more fun for most people. THINK about it before commenting.

[hennessey86]

if they nail the controls it will probably be the best single player fps ever but multiplayer will always belong to halo its just unbeatable with all the features it has and the comunity are second to none. killzone 3 will definitley look better than reach but if im honest im looking forward to reach a little bit more but i cant wait to play killzone 3 either its getting really expensive owning both consoles theres to many damn good games for both systems. time to sell a kidney

[talltony]

I'm looking Forward to kz3 much more than reach but will get both day 1.

[TK421]

I love the designed weight behind the Killzone 2 controls. I'm going to miss them in KZ 3.

[ChineseDemocracy]

To be quite honest, I wouldn't mind a more "responsive" control. Not so much as to be cocaine-twitchy like CoD, but maybe a slight weighted feel like the first KZ, or BF:BC2.

I have to admit, I didn't really notice the "controller lag" after getting used to it, to me it's not that big of a deal. Out of curiosity, anyone know if GG fixed the player height issue?

[gamerzBEreal17]

yes since pretty much everyone is a COD player this is a great thing

[Jaces]

As long as they have a mode where you can choose the gunplay style I'll be happy. I want my KZ2 controls back!!

[Pin-Pin-Ire]

I hope the old controls are an option.

[hennessey86]

theres no denying the controls are laggy as hell which really ruined number 2 for me. If i had the choice id pick number 1 over 2 because it played much better even though it had alot of flaws they were less gamebreaking than killzone 2s controls

[facelike]

You do know that they patched a mode into KZ2 to make it more responsive like COD. There is a 2nd control scheme that has always been there that makes it play like COD.

You should probably go back and check the control settings, you might be surprised.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

''theres no denying the controls are laggy as hell which really ruined number 2 for me''

You have no Skills to play KZ2, that's all.

Practice is the way to learn.

Only Skilled players don't complain, period.

[Soldierone]

Same here, Id take Killzone 1 over 2 anyday. Its not just the controls either. I fell in love with the first one, didnt do so for the second. Probably cus i was hyping it since they first showed the tech demo...

[Jdoki]

Hope they haven't changed too much.

I liked the feeling of weight, and the lack of auto-aim.

Hope they've sorted the cover system tho. Was not keen on that.

[nickjkl]

you do know killzone 2 had auto aim right same thing as cod i was less noticeable because of the heavy feel

[blasian]

“the heavy sensation of Killzone 2 is absolutely gone;"

Dam all you cry babies out there.

[ExplosionSauce]

I liked the weighty feel of the guns and movement.
At least they're not getting rid of that completely....hope not!

[DA_SHREDDER]

I loved KZ2 except the online seemed pointless, and the controls were laggy. If they fix that then they possibly have the best shooter every to come to existence.

Im so glad they didn't go by what you guys on n4g have to say about this subject.

Edit: Who here plays COD? I sold my 360 and ps3 version after I got into MAG, I even sold my 360 cause after playing MAG, nothing comes close. So hopefully KZ3 will be on that level. That level not being the number of people online, but actually how polished the online is with game types, level up system, and clan support. Im afraid that not even KZ3 will beable to compete with MAG. Honestly, I dont even see Socom doing it. Sver 4 life!

[Nicaragua]

Its cute that you like MAG so much but half of what your saying is utter bollocks.

MAG isnt clan friendly at all. Despite the number of players per game you can only have 8 friends together in one game because that all the party system allows for- If you have a clan of 30 people then your screwed. Add onto that there isnt any kind of clan vs clan competitive element to the game which is just dumb. You cannot play with who you want, against who you want - and this makes MAG very clan unfriendly.

As for its polish and gametypes then its nowhere near as polished as KZ2 and it has 5 game modes which is hardly staggering.

Dont get me wrong i like MAG (also Sver 4 life) but keep your enthusiasm within reality.

[Blaster_Master]

Cant wait for Clan Wars to come to MAG. Its gonna shut everything down.

[Colonel-Killzone]

Actually the control lag is like a 1 sec difference. Its not as bad as people make it out to be. Anyway regardless of what the controls will be the actual gameplay itself is the same which is good. We don't need people jumping and shooting you in mid air in kz3. Keep that crap in call of duty.

[MNicholas]

who prefer simple, arcadey gameplay.

I suppose it all comes down to sales.

[raztad]

Yeah, it is about sales, but it is a risky strategy.

If this is true, it will be like a kick in the nuts to KZ2 core audience, while there is not certainty the twichers will embrace the game.

I'll wait and see. The weighty feeling was a big part of whta makes KZ unique.

[Dacapn]

Yeah this is a wait and see type deal. I don't see the game becoming twitchy like COD, but I see the actual aiming just being more responsive, as in less acceleration when you hit the right stick.

[table]

I'm a core player, kz2 is my favourite ps3 shooter but I still think more responsive is a good thing. The controls will not be CoD like, you can tell that from the previews. Even though I enjoyed them, the controls were so heavy it was just unrealistic. You should be happy they are tweaking them making the game more accessible whilst remaining true to the core players.

[Baka-akaB]

a real shame , even if i could live with it .
The fast food junk lovers won , and the irony is , they still wouldnt come to the "restaurant" and would most likely buy the next cod instead

[Prcko]

run and gun,hmm

[RadientFlux]

I never had a problem with the old controls, I don't see why every FPS has to have the same controls, epically the army/war ones.

[kneon]

Because too many people can't adapt and so they whine instead. There were also people whining that LPB didn't jump like the Mario games, why the hell should it? it's not a Mario game. KZ shouldn't feel like COD, it's not COD.

The mass market isn't very bright but unfortunately they spend most of the money, so we get stuck with their crap.

[Rich1631]

Thank you Jesus!

[Emmettcelticfan]

that means it will attract all the cod players who are mostly made up of campers, which will consume our warzone. Sons and daughters of Helghast we must unite to KILL THEM ALL

[Baka-akaB]

i'm not even convince they'll come . The way i see it , they are making a change for a crowd that already decided beforehand what they'll play .

I expect kz3 to sell better than k2 , but not by an overwhelming amount .

Unless people fnally go crazy over 3d , come release time .

again a pity , a change for noobs than dont even care , and only mentioned controls as an excuse to justifity their cod addiction over playing good fps titles .

[DA_SHREDDER]

I know its so sad. I would hate to see KZ3 sell COD numbers, I mean, you know cause its in our best interest to keep gaming down for our own personal interest.

Now that im done being sarcastic, I really would like it if they just put in MAG type controls. To me MAG is the best controls ive ever had in a fps.

[Nicaragua]

yeah we heard you first time

[MysticStrummer]

He's right. MAG controls feel perfect to me also. Middle ground between too twitchy and too heavy. The only thing control wise I would change about MAG is the weapon switch system.

[gamingisnotacrime]

KZ2 controls went too far with the weight/realism bs. BC2 controls are way more balanced and hey at the end of the day is a game so why not make it play like one

[King_many_layers]

It does play like one, just not the same ol' same old that HardCasuals seem to want

[raztad]

"If it is anything like BC2 then good"

Not sure about it. BC2 didnt win MW audience. People is hating MoH because feels like BC2 w/o destruction so what KZ3 will win mimicking BC2 controls then?

[alphakennybody]

If running and gunning the future of KZ3, then I'll stick with KZ2's Online MP. I'll still buy KZ3 mainly for the Story campaign Its the main reason why I bought and liked the First anyway.

[gijsbrecht]

What I gathered from all the info from people who played it at E3 is that the heaviness is still there, but that the responsiveness is 'better'. And there seems indeed to be a classic killzone control and then this more responsive one.
As much as I love the series, I sincerely hope that the above is true for other wise I wil be pissed off.

[killcycle]

If it's true then all i gotta say is.

Sell outs

[redsquad]

Awww, I loved having to take cover and think through my attack rather than just using a run'n gun/spray & pray technique. When you cleared an area it actually felt more satisfying; you felt like you'd earned it...

[sickbird]

DAMMIT!!!!

[Fishy Fingers]

I loved KZ but not enough to kid myself into excepting what were sloppy controls, even GG have admitted that so there is no need to be defensive. I hope they get them along the lines of Battlefield, weighty yet responsive.

[BeaArthur]

I actually didn't mind the controls in KZ2. They did take some getting used to but it was a different experience which was refreshing.

[redsquad]

Pre-patch, perhaps - The 'dead zone' was way too big to start with. But post-patch, the controls were spot on (for me)

[Spenok]

I wouldnt mind BBC2 style controles. Hmm interesting prospect.

[redDevil87]

But don't add auto aim please!

[Alcohog]

Man, I loved KZ2's feel. :(

[viking805fan]

To me, i personally think they should give it the control and feel of BF:Bad Company 2. Battlefield has a best of both worlds controls it has a weighty type of feeling and its still pretty fast play gameplay like COD.

[TheBuIIetSponge]

I've only been able to play the KZ2 demo but I liked the feel of the game. Why do developers have to always play it safe? I plan on getting a PS3 by the end of this year but I'd be disappointed if I got KZ3 and it felt like Call of Duty with similar controls.

[redDevil87]

well a lot of people got put off with KZ2 controls. If they kept them the same some of those people won't buy KZ3. I don't think GG want to alienate part of the market and lose out on sales.

[TheBuIIetSponge]

So Halo should be made more realistic so to not alienate part of the market?

[cellypower]

More weapons and attachments!!

[jack_burt0n]

hey guerilla why not call it killzone: future warfare

see if u can get the zombie idiots to bite.

/s and bitterness.

[xYLeinen]

Not sure if I like this. One thing that i liked very much about Killzone 2 was programed to feel like you held a heavy weapon and armor.

[Lombax]

Thank you for demanding that every game play like CoD. For veriety is the spice of death and once every game is the same aside from a few textures, everyone will be happy!

...oh, wait.

[hiredhelp]

everyone has there own style of gameplay weather they like to get stuck in or hold back defend.or just snipe. doesnt really matter.
but this game being standard.well all FPS games are simular.its very hard thinking of something new.and for me having flying bots and laying down turrets was a real joy.to me this game wouldnt compare to say battlefield or cr**py cod. as i beleave it is its own game and wot a game.ITS OUR GAME. like halo was there game.WAS!! but byunigie multi. but they never comparte to gurilla games.nor naughtydog nor mgs nor GT oh god here we go im gonna just stop there.

[eddie420]

They Better Have The Kz2 Launch Controls, Otherwise Ill Stop Playin It As I Did With Kz2! I loved How Kz2 Was "Different" Than Anything We've Ever Played! So Yeah It Took Time Getting Used To, But That's What Happens When you Get A "New" Game! For All U Pussys Thanking Ur Lucky Stars! Fuck U! I Was #94 In The World In Kz2 Before GG Listen To All U Cod/Battlefield Bitches! I Hate U! Killzone Should Control Like Killzone! Not The Game Ur Fagget Asses Play The Most! Learn The Fucking Game And The Shouldn't Be A Problem! Otherwise Go Play Cod/BattleField/Every Other Shit Ever Made, Bc The All control The Same! If Anything Make To Different Lobbies/Created Rooms Where U Can Control What Controls Are Being Used In The Match! Bc Even If They Use Both Control Schemes! The Pussys Will Have The Advantage Bc They Have No Weight! I Promise U Now, I Won't Buy It It Its gone Down The Route Of Every Other Shooter! Ps3 PSN ID: ArroyoSavage925

[Lombax]

Take It Easy On The Shift Key There Dude.

[cobraagent]

Can you make your comment actually readable now?

[Zerogamer]

Anyone tried the demo in this year's E3?

[Colonel-Killzone]

I think they are only talking about the response action of the controls. Not the unrealistic movement itself. I doubt Killzone is gonna have people jump in the air and shoot like in call of duty. I understand when people was talking about it feel heavy one it was not the controls it was the game itself..... All they did was remove the heavy feeling and added where when you click the button action the character in the game would move the sametime. In killzone there was a bit of lag when you would click it because when you shoot it take maybe a sec for it to actually shoot instead of it doing it right when you clicked it.

It is not gonna have the gameplay Like CALL OF DUTY. It only has the response time like Run and Gun which is not a bad thing. As long as the actual gameplay is good then I'm happy.

[xYLeinen]

I truly hope you are correct about this. I'm neither a big fan or a hater against the CoD franchise, but killzone is special in the way of it's controls and I hate them being changed to feel, I don't know "easier".

[LiquifiedArt]

And enjoyed it.

however, ( a big however )

The game was absurdly hard to kill people.
- Aiming + Body armor + Boost = near impossible
The aiming, body armor, boost perks, cooridor environments: created a shotgun imbalance.
There was no party system.
Dieing after you kill someone was a turn off.
Steep learning curve.
No extended ranking system (prestige) [cheap way of keeping a game's online community active]
Aiming vs. Hipfire was backwards.

If the above are taken care of, I will be very happy. For a team which such great tech, they deserve a game that sells 5mil + copies.

[Hotel_Moscow]

i agree with liquid the shotgun and rockets were my only issue with killzone 2 dealing with weapons

although i disagree with the aiming with boost it was way to easy to kill some one i felt like people died quicker

and dieing after you killsome one was kinda wierd it happens so much that idk if its lag or not

i didnt notice a steep learning curve my first online match i did really well it was mw2 that took me like aweek before i could actually kill some one

i hope they dont do prestige and just add more weapons even if they are the same weapon with different skin a different look also changes the way a person shoots

yeah aiming and hifiring was kinda backwards after i realized it was less advantageous for me to use it in multiplayer

i just hope they reduce load times thats what upset me about killzone 2

[gtamike]

At last controls are fixed!!!! :D

[SephireX]

I loved KZ2's controls. I hope there is an option to play with them. Anyway, game will be awesome regardless.

[eddie420]

I Was Rushing While Writing!

[Jack Klugman]

Good to see Guerrilla realize their controls are for sh*t.. Was a big complaint with the last one.

[bjornbear]

the skills are.

If I and many others better than me deal with it, no excuse for others not to be able to.

[J-Smith]

kz2 controls were perfect i thought

[Nephesh]

I loved EVERYTHING about KZ2, but the weighty controls. I still played the game and I tried to get buy the dead zone in the aiming, but it just wasn't fun it was a pain! I respect that there are some people that think it makes it more "realistic", but I am still glad they listened to the majority. Hopefully they kept the option to use the old controls to make everyone happy though.

[AssassinHD]

I personally never had an issue with the Killzone 2 controls.

edit: It should be noted that most of my progress toward General was made before the control patch.

[MGRogue2017]

I'm not complaining at all but.. Moving about & aiming in Killzone 2 felt really stiff & slow.

Hopefully, it's alot more fluid-like in Killzone 3.

[chakan]

Thanks a lot whiny babies.

I hope there's an option to go back to the original controls. i got used to them when I started playing the game. Complainers are part of the reason why things are usually ruined.

[j9]

great news

[JonDiskonected]

for crying out loud, they said ''a set of controls'', meaning just like the first one, you'll have choices

[bjornbear]

but i hope they have the original controls (R3 for zoom, etc) as base / option.

i couldn't care less for all the lazy ass gamers that prefer the COD controls, so as long as it doesn't take away from the TRUE KZ experience

serious control scheme for serious gamers xD (you only get more complex / serious with PC controls)

[Dead_Cell]

It's still heavyish, just more tuned up to have a more responsive system.

[jneul]

thanks to all the COD noobs, thanks a lot / s
I loved the realistic feel to the controls, kz3 will still be good but i will miss the kz2 controls:(:(

[LiquifiedArt]

I think the real problem was how they implemented hip-fire vs. iron sights.

Iron sights are basically worthless. You get no aim-assist. Add that to the less then responsive controls and scoping people is completely ridiuclous.

Hipfire, you get decent aim-assist and the controls are "AS MUCH" of a problem. I liked killzone alot, but after playing other games and coming back to it, it definetly is a very inconsistent experience.

There have been plenty of times when somenoe should of been dead, but the aiming was so bad, 1/2 the game was in struggling to town a moving target down. lol.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Aim assist through iron sights? Really?

[ReBurn]

Looks like Killzone fans are excited about this one. It's great when a new game in a beloved franchise starts getting some press. It never hurts to make games more accessible to new players.

Hopefully they take control type into consideration with online matchmaking though.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I knew it would happen. Thanks cry babies. You got what you wanted.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I refuse to judge this game till i play it. Ive loved all of them so far so i think this will likely be a great game as well. I thought it was just fine the way it was before. very fun game.

[Agheil]

I didn't mind the old kz controls but I'm so happy about the change

[crematory]

why all games should be same like cod series , i'm really sad

[XabiTheHumble]

Fucking sellouts.....

[B00M]

Um no its called business.

[DARKrage34]

/Jk!

[PS360PCROCKS]

Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! i liked the heaviness of it, it felt so cool.

[NarooN]

I hope they go back to KZ1's controls. The moment you moved the stick your gun moved. Sounds like CoD commoners will be all over this. I hope the guns have recoil like they did in KZ1 as well.

[B00M]

Yes! I was hoping it will be like this. But I'm guessing it'll be more like Battlefield Bad Company 2. And you guys on N4G do realise your the minority who like the controls and say bullshit like "your not skilled enough to control KZ2".

[Blaster_Master]

If the controls are so great for killzone, then why are there only like 100 people playing KZ2 online at a time? I think its a great strategy for them to see if the controls was a big part of the reason why the game didn't sell what it should have. I see KZ3 selling as good if not better than MGS4 once they fix the controls. Also, the game isn't gonna sell if they dont add more depth to the online. We need more weapons, customizations, MAG like online infrastructure, and I would even add a prone option. That would be sick. Dont listen to these dudes on N4G and other websites Guerrilla Games. The people who buy games want more, and the proof is in the sales and the KZ2 activity charts.

[skwidd]

Wow. Just reading the comments, I swear a lot of you don't know what this weighty feel is that GG talks about.

Here's the deal with weight: There is no lag, at least not enough of it, to be cumbersome. When you push the stick, the crosshairs move. The game feels different than COD cuz it runs at a slower 30fps. However there is no lag as you think of it. Rather, this "lag" that you talk about is basically the weapon not always pointing at the center of the crosshairs when in movement. They tend to follow the crosshairs, hence why you always miss your target when it's moving. The gun follows the crosshairs and it's more apparent when you move faster.

I loved this innovative idea that GG had but applying it on the magnum as well as the rocket launcher didn't make much sense. And it can be a nuisance sometimes when Im conscious of it as I try to hit my moving target by trying to place my crosshairs ahead of him. Overall, I don't think it's realistic but it adds to the feel. I hope it's not eliminated but tweaked so it affects rocket launchers and turrets and not pistols. Also, I'll still suggest the crosshairs always point to where your gun is pointing.

[Jason143]

the 3d is amazing and the gun play is hands down the best yet. I loved kz2 but this takes the cake. It is not cod.

[archemides518]

maaaaaaaan this is a bunch of BULLCRAP

if i wanted to play COD i'D play COD (which is why i own them both)

i don't want COD with another skin :(

there is such things as different games

but when money talks i guess the whiners win

[chidori666]

*noobs of cod incoming alert*

:(

[Silver_Faux]

GG need to make money right? Kz2 only sold just over 1milloon. thats alot but i know for a fact alot of people who were gonna get the game didnt bcos of the controls. if the controls r gonna incorperate move then it cant have the weighty feeling. game runs at 30fps so i doubt itwill b running like cod at squirrel pace. i think more like bad company 2 pace which i think runs at 30fps also. dont get me wrong i love kz2. more importantly they need 2 fix the death lag. thsts the real problem.

sorry bout the spelling, fukin iphone keyboard is a piece of shit

[BABY-JEDI]

I will be bitterly disappointed with GG if they turn Killzone online into a poxy arcade shooter. This studio always said they aimed for a realistic FPS experience. If anything, I want Killzone to be even more realistic! Don't cop out GG. Keep it real.

[The_Zeitgeist]

There better be options for the old scheme. I like that heavy weighty feel to K2 and I am sure I am not alone.

[IHateYouFanboys]

no 200ms input lag = im buying killzone 3.

great to hear. it will still have the momentum based turning, now it will just be without the 200ms wait between when you tell it to do something and when it does it.

[jalen247]

Call of Duty appears to be a plague on mankind. LOL

[jmallymav]

What make ya think the same people playing cod is going to buy kz3, think about it....its stupid to say "well cod players will like it cuz their noobs" them trying to dumb down controls is whack in a way but cod sold a lot of games and a lot of ppl are playing it, don't get me wrong, I never had a problem w kz2 controls, actually liked them, but you can't be afraid of change, they want more ppl to stay playing kz3 and not get bored quickly, ill say this time and time again on this site, all they need to do is improve and transform mp matchmaking, I want to get up with my friends in a lobby, chat about strategy, organize a plan, and plug us into a match, kz2 didn't have that, that's why kz2 didn't last long for me