GamerZines have a play on Ubi's Your Shape and come away shocked at how far back they needed to stand to use it.
my living room isn't set up length wise and thats only a few feet shorter than the width of my living room so kinect is a no go. i'm not rearranging everything to play it.
In a studio apt so you know this would be next to impossible. To me natal is a waste of time and money M$ would have been better off buying a development studio
Wont sell well over there...
You mean you don't have 8 feet of space to stand back from your tv in a studio apt? You should think about knocking down a wall or 2 to use the gaming revolution that is sweeping the nation! /s
Yeah I have a 1 bedroom apartment and my furniture would be in the way. Unless I could use kinect while standing on my couch, because there's no way I am moving my entire living room into the hall way to play..
I knew this would be a problem. When I read the specs and saw "Vertical field of view: 43 degrees", I knew it would become an issue.
because i recall someone saying the same about eyetoy . but im able to play some eye toy games in my bedroom
If I did the math right, the average heighted man (67 inches) would have to stand 85.05 (7.09 feet) inches away from it, based on its 43 degree vertical FOV. Then again, this is directed more towards women who think yoga is an alternative to exercise, and children. For someone 5 feet tall, 76.16 inches/6.35 feet. Not AS bad, but still a bit much for a lot of people. @Above Eye Toy had a 56 degree FOV. And PS Eye can switch between that and 75 degrees FOV. Eye toy wasn't as bad as Kinect in terms of distance you needed.
be impossible to play in 80+% of Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong household.
Thanks for the math. I'm 6'8" so I guess I'm going to have to stand 10 feet away to play this laggy junk. Yeah, f**k Kinect.
I bet the taller you are the more room you need. They should have someone that's say 5'5 and someone like me that's 6'3 do a comparison and see what kind of difference there is. I guessing that's why there focusing on casual/kids market first. I would think you would get away with less room with kids. If my wife makes me by it, I guess I would have to move it to my living room. At least my Plasma out there is bigger than my Aquos in my bedroom. I would still have to leave my PS3 in my room though to watch Blu-rays. Hopefully Move will work in smaller spaces with people as tall or taller than me.
(32.5 x Sin(34))/Sin(21.5) = under 39 39 inches = 3.25 feet You'll only need a little under 3.25 feet to use the Move, and that's assuming that the PS Eye would be using the 56 degree FOV. If it were using the 75 degree, you'd probably only need like, 2 feet.
Kinect won't do well in small apartments. You probably need a big house to use Kinect. That blows.
so kinect is finally out of perspektiv for me. i just dont have the space to use it
Not all games require you to be at that distance but I suppose it's necessary to map depth of field.
That is about the same distance from my TV to my 3-seat couch. Beyond that, I have no room (especially since there is a table with a centerpiece in the middle which is a pain to keep moving around). That amount of space would literally be impossible to do for my friend's house. The space he has is just enough to throw a punch with Wii without breaking the TV.
and that seems to be if the Kinect is waist height to the player. If Kinect was lower to the ground would the player not have to be even further back?
Well no, the camera only has so much vertical range. Putting it on the ground would allow your feet to be captured, but surely not the head, unless you're really short. In case anyone forgets, here are the specs. Horizontal field of view: 57 degrees Vertical field of view: 43 degrees Physical tilt range: ± 27 degrees Depth sensor range: 1.2m - 3.5m Using these specs, you can figure out a persons heights vs how far they need to stand back. I'm sure a 6'4" person needs to stand further back than a 5'4" person for Kinect to read their whole body.
Oh dear, that's not looking too promising.
All I have to do is move my bed and... Hey wait a minute!
Lol, yea my beds a little to close myself. And my gaming is usually done in my room. Maybe one of these days ill have a gameing room. However thats just not the same atm.
This is the main reason why I'm not getting Kinect.
It all depends on where you place the camera, plenty of videos have been shown where you can stand closer. But of course the hate will continue until MS is forced to state the obvious just like playing and sitting.
It won't work in it no matter what and I'm not rearranging shit for a damn camera.
Kinect is not aimed at you poor asses that can only afford a studio apartment. You have no money! lol! Kinect is aimed at families. The majority of families own a house with more then enough space. lol @ all of you ps fanboys complaining. It's not like you would buy Kinect anyway's. Playing Socom 4 with Move in a tight space will be MUCH better! @ bjornbear Wtf? lol @ u. Couldn't find a better picture? Fail
So it is aimed for who? ELITIST only?? I pity people like you who think they are more than the others cus of having more accessibility in this society, and for the family quoting, ok we know you felt the need to defend kinect after all the negative going on, but how many family out there has a considerable space to waste on a device for fun? for gaming with? did Wii fit need all that space? does Wii motion need all that space? what about move? none do, so why is this any good for you or the casual/average family?...guess you are a fanboy after all, can't think further than backing microsoft. Fanaticism at its fullest. Here thought of kinect being fun to play, but after reading this, where do I set this...? Maybe it still function as a control-less device for the board, but still, no game on this for me.
"Kinect is not aimed at you poor asses that can only afford a studio apartment. You have no money! lol!" You're right. Kinect is not aim at core gamers, who have a job and can actually afford their own studio apartment. Nope. Kinect is aim at the casual kids. Kids who has no money and no job and can not afford a big ass house with a lot of spaces to play. See where Microsoft is going wrong with Kinect? There's just so many wrong things about Kinect. No button. Lag. Have to stand up the whole time. Have to stand so far back. Can not recognize you if you do not wear tight clothings. Need big house to use, but aim at children who can't even buy their own house. Aim at causual, but according to Microsoft, it'll be the hardcore who buys it, and yet, there's only casual mini-games on it, no hardcore games. Something is very wrong with Kinect.
you've been swimming there haven't you -_-
Made me lol
LOL, Nice one Bjornbear.
I dont get it, enlighten me lol
Swimming in de Nile. Nice one.
I have room to use it. Does not mean I want to use it. lol.
but if it can detect in 3D and is an all powerfull super cam shouldnt it be able to pick up your position and calibrate itself or u must be able to calibrate it somehow, or this is going to be major fail when people get it home and realise the dont have the room.
Somehow I don't think it would be capable of that. In the perfect world maybe
Damn is there anything Kinect does well ?? - it can't play any core game - it can't work in small rooms - it can't work when you're sitting - it's limited to 2 players - it costs 149 $ (Eyetoy : 20$, PS Move : 40$) Errr, this thing has "failure" written over it, just like Kin which MS just stopped selling (3 k units sold after billions in R&D, congrats MS)
True, but I would love to see it take off like crazy, sell like hotcakes leaving everybody else in the dust. You wanna know why? Because it's MS, as soon as they smell the money they will just abandon their fanbase like an old pair of socks. Meaning there won't be competition for Sony next generation because Nintendo and MS will be busy at each others throat trying to claim the soccer-mum pie, no games will be held back, it will be PS2 all over again. Game after game after game, quality will overflow, not DVD9 gimped 4 hour campaigns and day 1 DLC because the content didn't fit on the disc.
mmmmmmm.... soccer-mom pie.
Not everything MS does generates money. Just look at the Kin. Lol Not saying this'll happen to kinect btw, just saying it's a possibility.
For me Kinect was a failure from the first moment I saw it. Wii does better things to gaming than Kinect does and Wii does not much for gaming. For me as a core gamer with a limited amount of time there still no reason to move ;) to another platform. 115 days left till GT 5 releases! :)))
I wait and see. So far all that pic says to me is that the writer had to stand there due to some idiot building a display around the TV and not because Kinect. I'l wait for the official spec and trying it out myself at my local Best Buy thank you.
Perhaps the display was built to ensure that people stood the right distance away? It looks pretty minimal to me so that's my assumption. Food for thought anyway. But i applaud your wait and see attitude, best bet
Do all you guys play about a foot from your TV. I have to be at least 8' away or you can't take in the whole screen of my small 42" HD TV.
I will give you this, there are optimal viewing distance requirements for the size of your TV. Like you said. That is a good observation. Maybe and I by no mean am defending MS, they decided to go by the viewing distance for the average HDTV being sold. Just a thought. What do you think? Kind of would make sense. I would love to put a 60in LED in my bedroom, but I know that I would be to close to it, and most likely have a headache all the time.
But do you know what's 8' from my TV? A couch, then a wall. Kind of hard to flail around there.
That is still a lot closer than i will ever be, i don't plan on going anywhere near the thing lol.
Wait a damn minute. Take away Kinect's lag and casual games out of the equation. Knocking on them for distance is bullshit. Logic told me a long time ago that Kinect needs room simply because of its use of a camera to gauge full movements of your body. To follow suit, PS Move will also require some distance to properly read a full arm's swing and such.
Move works within few inches of the camera. It is just the better thing. Nat... erm kinneckt is nothing but a waste of peoples time. Did you see the vid with the 2 parents en 2 children waving their arms? Hilarous. Wonder how these people feel when they actually would see themselves....
*kinect* looks like its going the same way as the *kin* LoL
....if you want skittles to lick your kids,you better have atleast five yards of football field in your living room! lol
at least for now Kinect has not achieved anything!
Jump to conclusions much? Just because the demonstration was set up at that distance doesn't mean that it's the minimum possible distance. Did it occur to anyone that the display was calibrated to that distance, hence the line? Or are you convinced that you can't play any further away either?
Well they said they tested it out closer and it didn't detect them. I dunno, either way I can see this needing an "ideal" living room if you will.
I honestly don't have that much space without completely readjusting my living room. I could probably *just about* make the space if I moved everything around... But no, I don't think I've got the room. Ah. That's a problem.
Enough excuses. It's time to break some walls. Or buy a new house.
look how high off the ground the thing needs to be too.
Was THIS all along. How are they gonna sell this in Asia specifically in my area when many of the homes are in apartment buildings with only 3 feet of space from the sofa to the TV set? -End statement
Kin and Kinect sitting in a tree F.A.I.L.I.N.G
will buy this unaware of this, and have to change their whole room just to play it. thats going to be quite funny =P
Distance will Depend on a lot of things like want game your playing and how many people are standing side by side etc. but looking at the photo it looks like the same distance that I had to use with the wii bowling my only fear was that someone was going to let that remote thing slip off their arm or out of hand and crash into my 52" Bravia TV, thank god that didn't happen.
the little bubble of n4g spreading misinformation in the little bubble of n4g.....as the masses will never hear your crys...lol. and this is soley aimed for the casuals, familys in big houses...so if your broke and live in a small apt, a 360 hardcore or especially a bitter PS3 fanboy "Just go away" nothing for you to see here... Edit: and to think we would look so much cooler holding a glowing dildo...pleeze!!! News Flash: Nobody cares about your biased opinion as it means nothing... Sale: Deathsticks 3 for $5
wow youre obviously pissed off, calm down. Nobody cares about your opinion either so its a win/win for me
Wow. The amount of rules there are to play this thing is getting longer and longer. Adapt to the lag, wear tighter clothes, stand back farther, don't let anyone else pass in front of the screen. Starting to sound like more trouble then it's worth
Does Kinect fall under the 'Kin' line of Microsoft products?
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