Gran Turismo 5 Must Be The Best Simulator Of All Time

Given the immense amount of hype and the lofty expectations that couldn't get any higher, Polyphony now finds themselves in an unenviable position: GT5 must end up being the greatest, or be considered a failure.

[CrAnKiTuP_01]

Gran Turismo as we all know is going to be SICK, but 5 years in waiting and people are gonna start having those types of thoughts. "This game better be the best racing sim EVER or it fails."
I actually try to keep those types of thoughts away, so they don't get in the way when I play this masterpiece along with the other millions of people. I don't want to try and nitpick a game, just because it's development time was 5 years. It'd ruin the experience, though I don't doubt Gran Turismo 5 will be the best driving sim ever. Gran Turismo has always been that and Gran Turismo 5 will be no different. GT FTW

[PoSTedUP]

polyphony digital + 5 years... enough said.

i am expecting/ looking forward to great graphics, excellent/ realistic physics especially in the dirt, snow ice and rain tracks, 1000+ cars. and i am sure they will exceed my expectations with some decent online and other features. when i say this, i speak for most GT fans because this is what we want, another great gran turismo game from polyphony digital.

[thewrathman]

it must be very frustrating for PD.id imagine in the first year they were like htf are we supposed to dev on this console.so they throw down the tracks and say gud job.3 years later they say 'oh yeah baby got the hang of this sh1t now'.then they think 'might go back and redo the tracks'

and at one point the cars would have look so realistic.but it made the tracks look like sh1t.

5 years of goin back and forth to make it look right.FRUSTRATING.i bet some of them will be glad to see it finished.

at least thats wot i think.

premium cars free or discounted as DLC to psn+ subscribers i bet.

[hennessey86]

3 being my favourite. from what ive seen it does look great but for a game thats been in development for 5 years the engine noises are woeful and so are the tyre noises. if they can get the graphics looking that good and you have blu rays space so no compressed sound why do the cars not sound right forza engine noises are spot on. i still cant wait for this game though the top gear track is worth the purchase alone. i

[Commander_TK]

It has taken them too long

[bnaked]

Just look at the infos and the features, and you know that GT5 will be the best racing game of all time. Without a doubt..

[iPad]

Gran Turismo 4 was released 5 years later after Gran Turismo 3 and it still sold 10 million even when people were confused since the PS3 was gonna release that same year.

And since every Gran Turismo released first on any system sells more than the sequel, I wouldn't be surprised if Gran Turismo 5 passes the 16 million mark. With the addition of 3D, Head Tracking, NASCAR, and even the Top Gear Track and many, many more. Did you know that Europeans are gonna buy GT5 just because it has the Top Gear Test Track? I wouldn't be surprised if Americans would do the same since GT5 has NASCAR.

[etownone]

GT 5 reaching the 16 million mark in sales?

You do know that when GT4 released there was over 100 million PS2's sold.

I think you should be happy If it reaches the 5 million mark. Times have changed. Competitive online FPS games are dominating sales this gen.

I'll call it right now .... COD Black Ops on PS3 will sell more then GT5.
Anyone wanna take that bet?

[rockleex]

There wasn't even a fraction of 100 million PS2's sold, and yet it still outsold GT4 by 4-5 million?

You do know that although FPS are more popular this gen, they still couldn't outsell any of these games on a single platform?

1. Wii Play (Wii – 27.38 million, Wii remote bundled with all copies)[68]
2. Nintendogs (DS – 23.26 million, all five versions combined)[68]
3. Wii Fit (Wii – 22.61 million)[68]
4. Mario Kart Wii (Wii – 22.55 million)[68]
5. New Super Mario Bros. (DS – 22.49 million)[68]
6. Pokémon Red, Blue, and Green (Game Boy – 20.08 million approximately: 10.23 million in Japan,[48] 9.85 million in US)[19]
7. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (DS – 18.72 million)[68]
8. Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES – 18 million)[97]
9. Mario Kart DS (DS – 17.90 million)[68]
10. Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (DS – 17.39 million)[78]
11. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2 - 17.33 million)[104]
12. Wii Sports Resort (Wii – 16.14 million)[68]
13. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PS2 – 14.89 million shipped)[93]
14. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii – 14.70 million)[68]
15. Pokémon Gold and Silver (Game Boy Color – 14.51 million approximately: 7.6 million in US,[19] 6.91 million in Japan)[48]
16. Super Mario Land (Game Boy – 14 million)[97]
17. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! (DS – 13.71 million)[69]
18. Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (GBA – 13 million)[77]
19. Wii Fit Plus (Wii – 12.65 million)[68]
20. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (GBA – 11.82 million)[78]

[Donny]

comments do not to it justice. it must be expierienced.

[ji3200]

THEY BETTER NOT CANCELL THE TRACK EDITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[Foliage]

Oh please, this is the paid off 360 media starting their spin early.

They are trying to make a case that Gran Turismo 5 is by far the greatest racer of all time, but it might not meet expectations.

I'll predict it now, despite being far and away the best game, half the media (THOSE guys) will give it a lower score than Forza, because it didn't match expectations...

*facepalm*

So predictable.

This is like that time Ratchet lost points for having too many weapons.... wtf?

[raztad]

Get ready for the nitpicking. GT5 reviews are gonna be fun.

I easily can foresee someone coming with something like "GT5 is too detailed". LOL

[yoghurt]

And I'm sure there will be many a online media blog/site/something that will find something, anything to try and claim it is that failure

[zootang]

Why would that be? A vested interest maybe?

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[Shaka2K6]

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[Tony-A]

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[ApocalypseShadow]

no other console racer has that dedicated team that is willing to push the limits on graphics,features and content.while there are other developers willing to just create "madden updates",polyphony could be classed a a scientific team.you'ld think they would be going to Mars with that much perfectionism.

when you got car manufactures,race car drivers,gamers,magazines,car shows,etc waiting on your game,you know you got "the touch."

1080p/60fps/16 cars on the road/1,000 cars/too many features to mention.

d@mn near close.......

[Scotracer]

And it's NOT GOING TO BE. It will never compare with the PC sims on the realism front. Sure, it'll be the prettiest and the biggest but not the most realistic. Go play netKar Pro or iRacing and come back and write that article.

[SoapShoes]

I wouldn't say it is far off though, but we don't know yet. The crash physics might not be as realistic as PC sims, but seeing how they redid the physics after Prologue, it will probably have very realistic physics.

[Lionhead]

Wow Scotracer!

I didn't know you played the game! Let me borrow your copy please!!

[soxfan2005]

His response is no different from the dozens of GT5 supporters here - who also haven't played the game yet - declaring it the best racing game ever made.

[Narutone66]

like the other developer who kept on boasting that their game is the definitive racing sim.

[Rhythmattic]

And it JUST MIGHT BE .

"Go play netKar Pro or iRacing and come back and write that article." (Add) when the Gt5 retail version has been released and out of development stage....

No one really knows as yet.

If the advantage a PC has is its graphic cards, and you actually state GT5 is the prettiest, what makes you honestly believe the SPU's dont add to the realism such as the physic's ? Weather... Day Cycles... ?

I'm not disagreeing, just saying, dont make assumptions.

EDIT: Out of bubs..

Well there you go, for me it a difference of opinion, Forza 3 is just, well, crap.. (Yes I own a 360) iFactor does rock... very good sim.

So i'm guessing you Played GT5P on a friends PS3 and not your own ?

Because if you did, you missed out on the time trails demo of GT that employs the new Physics engine.....

[Scotracer]

The power alone doesn't make something realistic, it's all about the coding algorithms and how they actually model it to recreate reality. After playing the HELL out of GT5P I was wholly disappointed with the physics of many of the cars (the F1 car for instance highlighted the physics engines' poor aerodynamic algorithm). I just don't see it happening - all GT games up until now have been fun games but no one who's actually raced a car on a track (and I have) would say they were realistic.

I'm waiting to be pleasantly surprised, though. I've been playing iRacing and rFactor for weeks now and I went back to play Forza 3 (the current benchmark for console sims) and the difference really is night and day.

[SoapShoes]

GT5 Prologue is using an old physics engine... Even the time trial demo had physics far beyond Prologue and that was unfinished.

[Gran Touring]

@Scotracer

I have tremendous respect for PC racing simulators including iRacing, rFactor and Live4Speed. As it stands they are the most accurate simulators; I know iRacing uses proprietary laser mapping technology for their race tracks and extensive calculations for physical and inertial properties for every part of every car. Not gonna contest that.

GT5 has a lot to live up to, and while it's not perfect, neither are those PC driving sims either. But when you compare the sum of its parts, GT5 will stand alone , on a level much higher than that of its competition.

[EXID]

explain how you apparently KNOW this isn't going to be the best racing sim if you haven't played it yet. i gotta know.

[Steve_0]

@Scotracer,
First off, neither of us know how it'll turn out, dont pass it off so easily just yet. I'll agree that most should expect an online PC service like iRacing to be more serious, if not only for the cost, which is considerably higher than GT5 even forgetting about the cost of a decent PC with either a good CPU or PHYSX card to run those physics. But, you need to remember that Polyphony are very enthusiastic about cars, and probably the hardest working devs out there, They're not only respected in the computer entertainment industry but also the motoring industry, and have very close ties with car manufacturers around the globe. They are incredibly passonate about cars and you can see the blood and sweat poured into their titles. They work with manufacturers on concept cars and have even designed the dash and electronics (I believe) of the NIssan GTR, they've got a garage on the roof of their studio with cars worth millions and they drive them. This is no half a**ed attempt to pass off a pretty look alike for a dime.
I could say a lot more, but I'll try to cut it a little short. Kaz and Polyphony have put their soul into this "game", and are really pushing the envelope in not only tech and creativity in terms of console software, but also into reaching the masses with a driving simulator.
There's a very good reason why Polyphony's software has sold over 50 million copies compared to iRacing's 30,000 subscriptions, and while sales does not equal quality, the point is they've managed to break through to a huge audience with a racing game not designed to be as fast and flash and arcadey as possible, but to be the closest representation of driving not only the car you may want, but the one parked in your garage. And that's a hell of an achievement.

[Oner]

Um...Yeah...Oookaaay Scotracer.....Like the realism, accuracy, graphics and physics are SOOO GREAT in these ~

Rfactor ~ http://www.youtube.com/watc...

iRacing ~ http://www.youtube.com/watc...

netKar Pro ~ http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sorry but there are issue with them all. Personally I like the PHYSICS/DRIVING "feel" and graphics of the latest GT Academy Trial Contest over all others, but that is a PREFERENCE not a fact.

[MGRogue2017]

Ultimate Driving Game! :)

[GrilledCheeseBook]

it does not have to be the most realistic to not be a failure. It will have amazing success and probably be the highest selling PS3 game.

it won't be as realistic as the ones that scan the whole track periodically to get all the grooves and bumps but it will be the nicest looking one

[Unicron]

And this game will be nitpicked to death, regardless of how good it will ultimately end up being.

1000 cars? Why didn't it have 2000?

20 tracks? Why didn't it have 30?

Etc. etc.

[JohnnyAkiba]

It was 70 tracks.

[Gue1]

70 variations, 20 tracks.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

nope. 40 tracks with over 100 Variations, straight from the PS blog

http://blog.us.playstation....

[ji3200]

NOT JUST 70 RACE TRACK!! IF YOU COUNT REVERSE ITS GONNA BE MUCH MORE!!!! PLUS WHO CARES HOW MANY TRACK IN THE GAME!! IT HAS TRACK EDITOR TRACK EDITOR TRACK EDITOR TRACK EDITOR!!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheMailman]

GT5 will be flawless...

[Rhythmattic]

Cmon, You know you want to Floor it.....

[DelbertGrady]

When GT5 comes out John Lennon and George Harrison will come back to life so that the Beatles can reunite, Aids will cure itself, angels will sing and there will finally be peace on earth. Oh happy day! Lordy lordy lordy!

@Turbine27 - Forgot to add, time will stand still.

[Rhythmattic]

And the next time Soda is actually a talking point for a nintendo game, well , who cares ?

[Gue1]

you lied to me? I thought you joined the dark side!

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

November is so far away!

[Rhythmattic]

4 Months too long.

[00000000000000000001]

I have seen delay after dalay, could care less now, canceled my pre-order a long time ago.

[W831SOLIDSNAKE]

I feel sorry for you.

[Terarmzar]

Good cause no one wants you playing this game, have fun playing whatever else you play

[ThatArtGuy]

So you *ADMIT* that you could care less! You are harboring hope then. If you couldn't care less, then that's your loss. More copies for everyone else.

(As an aside it's been delayed once... in Japan.)

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Fail harder troll. If you even cared about GT5 you'd know it was only delayed once in Japan. There were no release dates given for any other region ever.

[JustTheFactsMr]

Just another troll that never pre-ordered anything.

[Steve_0]

There's been one delay, you idiot. And that was in Japan. Its never been delayed in the states or europe.

[kerrak]

1-You care so little about GT5 that you come to GT5 comments section to let everybody know. Thanks!
2-Neglecting a game because it takes long to create is the ultimate idiocy, but i won't even try to explain it to you.

[bigboss911]

i can't wait... its killing me XD I just wish they can add Porsche as dlc.

[Narutownage]

RUF is Porsche it's been in I think* all of the games

[bigboss911]

i know that... but It only a few. Porsche has 30 plus models. some faster than the Ruf stuff. look up Porsche 956. its still the record holder for the "green hell".

[LiViNgLeGaCY]

This wait is terrible. And for some reason it got a lot worse after they actually revealed the release date. >_<

But anyway, title should be changed to, "As of the date it comes out." -Since there will always be something better later on.

[Tone]

.... but i wish they would release pre-order details for the collectors or ultimate edition here in the UK.

[Gue1]

GT5 doesn't even has half the hype Halo 3 had during its launch...

[Steve_0]

Maybe not, but you can be sure it'll be considerably more than twice the game.

[Tone]

... But Sony could do with more advertising for their good games, i hardly see any PS3 adverts or games for it on TV. I think they should throw more into the advertising budget, not everyone reads games news on the interweb or buy games magazines I.E. Parents, casual gamers etc

[the-show-stopper]

kevin butler did say he is working on this game so an advert for gran turismo five starring kevin butler should be coming out sometime

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Only certain games need hype...we all see that halo hype is not the same and when reach comes out it will tell the story...Gt fans are grown older gamers...honestly hype is for kiddies

[Unicron]

Yet GT outsells Halo.

Discuss.

[RobertGonz69]

Don't tell Turn 10 that this will be the best simulation racing ever. Lol..

[Aphe]

Maybe the best racing simulator, but it doesn't make for a very good flight simulator. And that doesn't include flying off the track for all those (other) smart arses out there.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

but to its fans it will...

[etownone]

You guys do know that the next GT won't be out till next gen ....
Maybe what? 2015???

Doesn't that sound insane? Seriously?
As much as Sonyfans want to hate on MS, the 360 and the Forza series. At least their have been TWO Forza games released this gen, both AAA, with Forza 3 being the benchmark and best console racing sim to date.

Like the article states, after so much development time, and fierce competition from Forza .... Anything less than perfect would be a failure.

AND it has to stand the test of time, at least till the end of this gen .... Cause if there is a Forza 4 coming out in 2011-12 and it trumps GT5 ... Well, again. That's just failure.

[bjornbear]

You guys do know that the next GT won't be out till next gen ....
Maybe what? 2015???

so? if GT5 is as good as it supposedly is, PS3 owners /driving sim fans will only need GT5 to last them until next gen

im sorry we aren't like the kids that have ADD and need a new half assed game every year to satisfy us.

one perfect gem is enough to last years, disagree? sure, then you agree that quantity > quality.

[Blaine]

Quality ALWAYS > Quantity, no matter how long I have to wait for it (there'll be other games to play while I wait for this one to be perfect). You can have 10 Forzas if you want, I'll be happy with my 1 GT.

BTW, Forza 2 has 350 cars, and Forza 3 has 400. GT5 will have between 950-1000. Both Forzas TOGETHER have less content than GT5. You say you got two games while we've been waiting for the one? I say you got two half games, and two half games together =/= 1 game.

[xTrueLegendx]

ive never really been a fan of raceing but this game looks way to amazing to pass up

[Blaine]

Whatever happens, I'm getting this day 1. So, for Polyphony Digital, they've already won, because they already got my money. And, as for me, I'm such a fanboy of these guys that, even if the game fell short of "greatest simulator ever" my fanboy goggles would blind me and I wouldn't care at all.

[The Maxx]

I would really like nothing more than this to be true.

But unless the game has FULL damage on EVERY CAR, mechanical and physical equal or surpasses Forza's or has the ability to tune each and every car from every aspect then it is not as much of a simulator as Forza.

GT5's graphics look great, 3D is a nice perk, having Nascar and Rally cars is spectacular and having the ability to edit tracks is unparalleled. But all these features have nothing to do with the game being a simulator let alone "The Best". A simulator is exactly what the word means, it simulates the real thing. But if there are no consequences for ramming into buildings or other cars, it is not a simulator. PERIOD.

[earbus]

The new ship sim coming on pc looks like the best sim imo.

[redsquad]

And it begins.
I think we all know that PS3 exclusives are usually reviewed based on what they "don't do" rather than what they do very well. GT5 will be placed under even greater scrutiny, I think.
Two quotes I expect to see in GT5 reviews:
"The game has taken so long, it SHOULD be this good" (the usual damning with faint praise)
"The game has taken so long, there's no excuse for this" (the usual nitpicking)

[likedamaster]

Looks good enough. Let's see what they do about replay & fun factor.