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Kinect and Move Spark Growing Industry and Consumer Concerns

At this point in the current console generation, players have come to know what to expect from each of the three contending companies, and players looking for a more traditional experience than the often criticized mechanics and software Wii has to offer have purchased the Xbox 360 or the PlayStation 3. Not surprisingly, the announcement of Microsoft’s Kinect and Sony’s PlayStation Move have sparked consumer fears that the focus both industry giants have promised to place on their respective peripherals means that the aforementioned experience may suffer as a result. Effectively, both companies are splitting their demographics and will have to ensure they can keep both the new and old users happy.

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Rob Hornecker5039d ago

I can see the authors idea behind this story. My biggest fear is that these new motion controllers will end up like the PS2 eye toy did. When the eye toy was released it was going to change the way we play games forever! To bad it was for not! It lacked support not only from Sony,but 3rd party software as well.

I have a bad feeling that history may repeat itself. With the talk starting up of the next generation of game consoles showing up on the web,why should we waste money of these D.O.A peripherals for systems that are going to phased out in a year or 2. If they would have brought these motion controllers out 3 years ago,they would have been onto something!

Johnny Rotten5039d ago (Edited 5039d ago )

whether it's Kinect or Move, I have a feeling they'll both end up in a shoe box stuffed under some kids bed for most of their life.

Smootherkuzz5039d ago

Support seems to coming for both. Eye toy was before its time but it still had a small list of games over the years, now the focus is on these type of controllers so I think we will see some good things as 3rd party releases more content say maybe late 2011 and beyond. New things will come for these type of controllers because thats the direction all electronics are headed in hands free, voice commands and smarter CPU,better graphics like 3d and or holograms.We will adapt to it, because we all like new things no matter how crazy they are, its in our blood.Which system will be better?it will not matter because they all have same in result fun for all.

Rob Hornecker5039d ago

LOL! I'm trying my best to keep a positive outlook on these new peripherals and like Mantisimo has done will be getting both the sony and MS controls when they come out. The 360 will get the Total package with a new style slim/Kinect package this fall.

Like Mantisimo also said ," I love using my controller" and call me old school, but I kind's of like the hands on approach to gaming.

Time will tell if this become dust bunny collectors or the future of video games.

mantisimo5039d ago

Only time will tell m8e only time will tell :)

mantisimo5039d ago

and have cleared a space and emptied a shoe box under my kids bed.

I still hope they don't have much success with either, I love my controller and my games as they are.

If they make AAA games and give you an option to use either and it doesn't feel as though the move or kinect has taken away from the controller used experience then I will have nothing to complain about.

BUT if the motion controller affects the gameplay or excludes the use of normal controls on a special title I will be very very upset.

Gr815039d ago

Would be better served doing what they do best. And not trying to shoehorn Motion Controls onto their consoles. Their core demographic bought these systems because they stuck with the classical type controllers and games. Trying to become Wii like is only going to piss those fans off.

Additionally, add on tech has ALWAYS had a hard time catching on. And to be doing this this late in the game is really not the smartest move goign forward. Also they have to realize it wasn't only Motion Controls that sold Wii, it was the software that uses it.

Kinect Sports, and Move Sports ain't gonna cut it. As we all experienced this 4 yrs ago. Then there is the price of entry. If you already own a PS3, then you pay 100$ for a Move set up, but Sony described their goal as getting the Wii owner to invest, so that means that the price of entry becomes $300+$100 which =$400 That's twice as much as the Wii which comes with WS and WSR. Which software is a better hardware seller, WSR or Kinect/Move sports? No comparison.

Also, why would a publisher invest in add on tech? At this stage of the game? That's not smart either. I just don't feel either competitor is serious with this endeavor. And as long as they give their consumer the optional support of kinect or Move, that means no one will fully support it because its not a neccessity. And Any Wii gamer can tell you that the games that give the option of Motion Controls, aren't really as engaging as those that require them. Who'd want to play WSR with a GameCube controller?

We'll see though. Maybe they can both pull rabbits out their ass.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia819d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog818d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69818d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming818d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79818d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember818d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog818d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop818d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic817d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop817d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic816d ago (Edited 816d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic817d ago (Edited 817d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10818d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar818d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10818d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell818d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10818d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72818d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming818d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog818d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming818d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming818d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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