There is no tougher best of list to master than the RPG. Many have tried and have failed. From the JRPG to the Western RPG. The genre has come a long way since its basement board game roots. Read on to find out what the top 5 RPG's of all time are.
Seems like the writer NEVER played Vagrant Story.
You can't please everyone. With that said I think the list is pretty decent. @Newtype - Vagrant Story is a great game. But even still it does not deserve to be in a top 5 list. Personally I would have put Wild Arms in. LOL (I'm sure I'll get some disagrees for that one)
No Baldur's Gate 2. No Planescape Torment. No Lunar: Siver Star Story. No Persona 1/2/3/4. No Shin Megami Tensei. No Demon's Souls. No Atelier Iris 1/2. No Riviera: The Promised Land. No Grandia II. No Final Fantasy VI. No KotoR. No Fallout 1/2. No System Shock 2. No Tactics Ogre: Knight of the Lodis No Fire Emblem or Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones. No Vagrant Story. No Xeno Gears. No Legend of Dragoon. No Breath of Fire. No Icewind Dale. No King's Quest. No Skies of Arcadia. That the list does not include even one of the above classics shows just how limited the author's exposure to RPGs is. @Brewski 007, The_Zeitgeist: I'm aware it says Top 5. My point is that none of those games are included in that top 5. And it shows how limited the author's exposure to RPGs is. Fact is, he named mostly JRPGs, that too many mainstream ones, that are accepted classics. I'm not saying the games on that list don't deserve to be there. Quite frankly, a top 50 list would have sufficed better. However, when you're going to say "Of all time", then by god, my disagreement will rage like the fires of Mt. Doom.
Nike... You do realise it says "top 5". And not "top 22" ? Of course this list is going to cause disagreements but i mean go look up other top 5 lists and you're bound to see different ones.
@ NIKE You crack me up dude. The list is a top 5. Yet you list 22 games that were left off the list. If you add the 5 games to yours on the list that is 27 games. If you want a top 27 list then write one. ROFL!!!!
discovered the problem with the number 5. For it cannot contain all the games you've list. Perhaps if the list was of a number such as 25, then your comment might make a little more sense.
People should read all of Nike's comment, specifically the last sentence. He's not listing games that should have been on the list, but a list of games where at least one of them should have been in the top 5 but weren't. This list looks like a JRPG Top 5 list w/a dash of Zelda thrown in for some reason. One I don't agree with even from a JRPG perspective. Personally, Planescape: Torment should be on all Top 5 or Top 10 RPG lists. I agree with the assessment of others that the author doesn't seem to have a lot of experience with a great many other RPGs based on his choices.
How can you have a Top 5 rpg list and not have a single Dragon Quest game. Dragon Quest III should be there, if not #1 So should KOTOR.
you need a top 22 because the journalist just hasnt played all the games required to make a valid list
With all the existing final fantasy's that exist I don't you can't just put one of them on the first position.... for many people XI is the best, for me it's XIII And he forgot many like Nike said, I would add Phantasy Star Online
Ocarina of Time isn't even an RPG. My Top 5: Fallout 3 Pokémon Kingdom Hearts Knights of the Old Republic Chrono Trigger
To be completely honest, there's been so many great RPGs in history, it's kind of hard to compile a small list of 5. There were great ones before on the NES and SNES. There were great ones on the 32-bit consoles. There were great ones on the GameCube. There have been so many on various consoles that it's almost impossible to narrow it down to a simple 5 on a couple of consoles. Most of my faves were on the original PS, but I also have faves on the Saturn, PS2, PSP, PS3, so on and so forth. The list is ultimately up to the player.
FF3 as #1? this guy is fail, unless he means FFVI then it's understandable and chronotrigger is overrated, in no way should it ever be in a top 5 best RPG list. Also, i swear a list identical to this was posted several months back.
Final Fantasy VI was on there, it was called Final Fantasy III in NA though, so I guess I can understand the confusion there. Other then that, I can agree with you, to an extent. There are some amazing games that aren't on the list, but it is after all a "Top 5 RPG" list which makes it extremely difficult to do in the first place, as there are an absolute wealth of amazing RPGs around from the past. Mind, I don't really agree with OoT being on it... That isn't an RPG. Amazing game yes, RPG no.
Ah, okay. And I don't agree with OoT being there either. Which is why I didn't say "No Link to the Past". :) A top 5 really is too limited. A top 50 would have worked, but a top 5? @The_Zeitgeist: Still, a Top 5 list without Planescape Torment or Baldur's Gate 2 or even Fallout is just plain blasphemy. Also, Silent Hill doesn't have character building. But it has action and dramatic overtones. Does that make it an RPG?
I think a Top 5 list is commendable. You have to narrow it down and really pick which games deserve. If you are writing a top 50, 25, or even 10 list, the top 5 is where it always gets the hardest.
I hate Top 5/10 list based on just one person opin... ahhh fnck it everybody do it but hey that list looks pretty good to me.
What happend to games like Terranigma, Secret of Evermore, we need Games like that...
No Deus Ex. lol.
5 RPG of All Time? 5 is not enough. What about Legend of Dragoon,Xenogears,Lunar?
Really, not that those are bad games but... if you say FFIII... you prove you are doing some mistake. (I know FFIII is FFVI in North America, thats why i said that).
@EvilMonkey - You're right, at least about the number. Five games is not enough. It's a slapped-together hits grab. If you're going to make a Top 5 RPG's list, you should include many of the RPG's that you didn't put on the list in your descriptions, explaining why the ones that are there are better.
people consider Zelda to be an RPG.
Because it tops any "Best Game" list as long as the list ignores Super Mario Bros.
Ocarina of time is a classic adventure game but only zelda 2 (NES ) was a rpg ... it's a great adventure-exploration game maybe one of teh best ever created ..but it's not a rpg
Because it has all the dramatic overtones of an RPG. The only reason people say its not is because there isn't much character building. With Zelda its more in how and what you use that gives it the RPG title. It's definitely an Action RPG.
Everybody loves those "dramatic overtones" and there is enough character building to make it the best game of all time.
Zelda is not an RPG cus Link's abilities doesn't change during the course of the game, he just obtain new tools but his numerical stats are always the same. On top of that the gameplay's completely action based and the items are specific, few and limited. RPG always have a certain random element like the "critical hit" in battles, some kind of choice that either completely change the pace or course of the of the story or block your way to gain a certain item, etc. If Zelda is an RPG then a game like inFamous it's too. But no, these are action/adventure games like Tom Raider, etc...
It IS an RPG game. It has some action adventure to it. But Its a Role Playing Game.
The list might not be perfect or have all the games everyone wants but you have to admit those 5 games are F-ing sweet! Man I miss good old school RPGs. They really should remake most of them with better graphics and stuff. FF3.... Shadow was the bomb
FFVII over FFIX? Hah.
9 was the greatest ever right after 4 and 6.
Shin megami tensei persona 3 , FF7 , Xenosaga, Xenoagears, Vagrent story.
Good list. Its about time i see someone praise FFIII or in other words FFVI. Best rpg i have ever played ever.
While I know it's opinion based, but a top 5 for RPGs just doesn't leave any wiggle room for more titles. Zelda: OoT is a great game but definitely not a RPG. I would have liked to see the likes of Legend of Mana, Suikoden II, Valkyria Chronicles, Demon's Souls.. etc.
Demons Souls No.1 IMO (which counts for not much)
to similar games on pc, theres been dozens of better games like it on pc.
Starting naming them damn it, or at least a few, if it "pales in comparison" these games must be really freaking amazing and I must play them.
Mother 3 isn't on that list. Mother 3 is the best RPG of all time. Go figure.
Top rpg game list suck always because of the divide between western and japanese styled rpgs and even then its divided by the more complex Baldurs Gate styled ones vs streamlined Mass Effect style rpg's
Final Fantasy IX, Golden Sun, and Legend of Dragoon should clearly occupy that top 5
that list is missing so many exceptionnal rpgs ... i mean rpg 98% of players can agree ON ... Titles that have aged really well ... suikoden 2 for example , xenogears . PS: personal taste : NO digital devil saga mean fail in my book ....
Yup! I like all the RPG's on his list, but I'd put Suikoden 2 as number 1. It's a tough game to find, sure, but if you're going to make a list of "The ultimate top 5 RPG's of all time," you'd better have played it. I need to get into more of the SMT series, definitely!
Who writes this sh!t?
Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 8, and xenogears are the greatest rpgs that i have ever played. *Bows to Sephiroth*
any rpg list without xenogears is a fail in my book but my top 5 would be 1. Xenogears ( The most crazy and fictional story that actually makes sense ) 2. Final Fantasy VII ( It's just a classic ) 3. Phantasy Star VI ( it was ahead of its time, sega needs a phantasy star 5) 4. Final Fantasy VIII ( I thought it had the most complete ending in the series) 5. Chrono Cross ( I like this more then Chrono Trigger, I liked the whole concept of dimensional paradox )
thus its automatic fail
I wouldn't really consider Zelda an RPG. And Final Fantasy 7 is nowhere near the best RPG of all time, sorry man. The rest are meh but the snes freaks will get pissed off if I say they suck. They were good for their time, but don't stand up.
Lol, I love looking at the thumbnail of the article first and being excited about what's going to be in the article..... just to read the title and get disappointed that it's not what I was expecting lol. Why must you tease me with FFVII pic?!
Hahahaha. Not even 1 western RPG. This list fails hard.
My ultimate rpg is FFVII by being so complete.other FF´s had their each taste but FFVII just puts it all together so nicely.
There is no love for DQ..or the tales series
agreed, and where is legend of dragoon? <- extremely underrated imo
Why is any FF game even in there? I think we can all agree that these games haven't aged well. Most JRPGs have very cliched stories/generic, stale gameplay, why can't they use JRPGs/WRPGs with decent gameplay/original stories like chronotrigger or The Witcher? For starters I think s/he's a moron for putting Zelda in this list. Zelda pretty much is it's own genre similar to metroid/castlevania genre. Zelda has inspired enough games to be considered it's own genre. FF7? Lets get realistic, the game isn't very good. It's mostly the nostalgia goggles that make it appear good. Sure, it's gameplay was good for it's time, but it's fairly generic and stale now, and if you are going to a "BEST TOP 5 LIST OF ALL TIME" I think it should be able to compare to the games we have today. A "BEST TOP 5 LIST OF ALL TIME" is flawed by itself, because you can't have a "best" opinion. Comparing the hundreds of RPGs that have released since the beginning of time, there really is no definite answer. This is more about *subjectivity* than *objectivity.* Sure you can say it's objective to a point, obviously 'The Last Rebellion' is not better than Buldur's Gates, Demon's Souls or Persona 4, there is no opinion involved in that, it's just a fact. But to say Persona 4 is a better game than Demon's Souls is very subjective, it depends on what style of game you prefer.
Put Chrono Trigger n1 and I am fine with the list! XD
FFVII / Xenogears > all 'nough said
unless they retitle it best console rpgs of all time, and then its only just mediocre.
I could name 5 Super Nintendo games I'm able to play forever. 1. Earthbound 2. Chrono Trigger 3. Secret of Mana 4. Secret of Evermore 5. Lufia Rise of the Sinistrals
no xenogears? What joke.... lol
No KOTOR = Fail. And man FFVII is so damn overrated.
good list but it couldve been a lot better
My man "Nike" said it best. Also no Mass Effect 2. How retarded is that.
Can't stand JRPG Western RPG's FTW - Fallout 3 - Fable 2 - Mass Effect 2 Some of the highlights for me, although 2 new great ones out this year, Fallout: New Vegas and Fable 3.
new vegas? h3ll yes. Western RPG's FTW indeed.
We seem to be missing Xenogears and Earthbound. Lets drop off Zelda and FFVII. All is well. FFVI in the #1 spot is exactly right though.