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Xbox 360 Hardware Problems Have Been Fixed for A Couple Years Now, says Microsoft

The infamous "Red Ring of Death" may have been removed from the new Xbox 360 model, but nothing can erase the fact that Microsoft struggled to produce reliable Xbox 360 hardware for years. Few companies could withstand such a monumental goof (it cost Microsoft over a billion dollars in repairs and extended warranties), but now with the new slimmed down 360, Microsoft wants to put this chapter in its history to bed

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topgeareasy5074d ago

is Microsoft talking about final fantasy?

GWAVE5074d ago

The hardware issues were not "largely resolved". I guess Microsoft would like people to believe that the RRoD (while certainly a huge problem) was the ONLY problem on the 360.

I'm just...I just refuse to take Microsoft's word at face value anymore. They have "fixed all the problems" the last four times they did a hardware revision.

darthv725074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

We dont know for sure what the real numbers are but I am certain that each revision has been one step closer to making that statement come true.

Will it ever be proven true though...that remains to be seen. Especially in the eyes of those who want the system to fail. It should come as no surprise there are those in many camps that will go to certain lengths to purposely make a system fail. What they have to gain from that is anyones guess.

As far as 360 is concerned, maybe the gain is the right to still proclaim the problem exists and nothing has been done to fix it. Same could be said about the ps3 and the ylod. While not the same extreme (not in the least) there is a legitimate issue with ylod.

It is always said that it isnt bad unless it happens to you. Which is how most think when they would hear of such an issue. They would call others liars and they were making it up until...it happens. Then you take a different view on such claims.

I did not intend on comparing the two but in any case I do believe there is some truth to their wishfull thinking of hardware problems have been fixed. Some..not all but it is certainly much better now than before.

I believe more in optimism than pessisism. It can't be bad all the time.

HolyOrangeCows5074d ago

The first few dozen 360's disappeared, then, Microsoft?

*Looks over at 360*

Nope, it doesn't look like they did.
And my warranty period is nearing expiration.

HolyOrangeCows5074d ago

*Dozen of millions, I mean.

BakedGoods5074d ago

My 360 is a repaired RROD, and in my opinion that's the only way to go when buying a 360. I don't even trust the new slims at this point.

Joule5074d ago

New slims have problems too, like the RDoD (Red Dot Of Death), why does Microsoft lie so much?

Deathracer5074d ago

@El Jugador - The RDOD is not a problem, its to prevent your Xbox from overheating. Why do fanboys not know how to do research before posting?

sikbeta5074d ago

Deathracer is right, RDOD is to prevent PROBLEMS and by that it's not like the problems were fixed, not even in the new model, cos if were fixed there would be no need to "prevent" anything...

SuperStrokey11235074d ago

How in the hell do you think a system that has a specific mode cause it heats up too much is not a problem?

commodore645074d ago

@ death and jugador

Guys, calm down.

The hardware problem that caused rrod is now fixed.
However, if the 360s gets a different hardware problem, it will be in the form of rdod.

This rdod has yet to eventuate.

The warning screen that displays iff the console has not got adequate ventilation (such as being purposely wrapped in a towel) has nothing to do with rrod/rdod.

It is simply a safety measure to protect your console, and to alert you to provide it with better ventilation.

Deathracer5074d ago

We have seen one person with pics of the screen and the Xbox with RDOD. We have no idea what environment his Xbox was in and how ventilated the room was. Like I said in my other comment, I've owned my Xbox for 4 years now and never had a single problem with it. You could make any electronic device overheat, take your PS3 or Computer tower and put it in a confined space that isn't well ventilated with high temperatures, and see if you don't have problems.

Even though I never had my system overheat, if it was to overheat I would like for it to let me know rather then keep playing it and it eventually just burns out.

Ryudo5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Actually most systems not invented by morons have cutout/shutdown and fail safe features, the PC your most likely typing on now has so many fail safes I wouldn't even want to being to try list them.

Graphic cards slow them self down or cut out all together before getting to hot the same for processors. There are very few pieces of hardware that don't have fail safes anyone proclaiming not having fail safes is a good thing is a fucking moron.

Have you ever stopped to ask yourself what a fuse in a plug is for? Not having a fail safe in hardware is how people die and property gets ruined.

RRoD is just a fail safe sadly not quite as effective as one would hope.

This apples to you SuperStrokey1123 since you clearly have no concept of how hardware works.

Marcello5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

I have repaired many Xbox360`s over years & i can tell you that main problem is the thermal paste they use. It dry`s out really quickly making it brittle causing the cooling block to become separated from the chip.

The DVD Drive which also gets hot is also placed on top of the cooling block suffercating it totally, i could go on & on about how bad this console is designed all night if i wanted too.

1 more thing, how on earth have they not fixed the disc scratching problem, all the drives suffer from this ??? Samsung,Hitachi,Benq & Lite-on & now even the new Lite-on`s. All 360`s will RROD eventaully (dont know about the slim yet) simply cos of the thermal paste being rubbish + poorly applied.

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Yo Mama5074d ago

Stop making excuses. My computer, which is left running day and night, never overheats or gives me a screen warning of impending heat danger. So, why is it ok for a console to do so?

Vip3r5073d ago

Why should your 360 be overheating in the first place?

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dangert125074d ago

i got my first xbox last year and it red ringed after a day =/

but since then i've been fine doing all nighters and the rest on it even falling asleep with it on on the ocassion so its believable 2 me atleast

HarryM5074d ago

"i got my first xbox last year and it red ringed after a day =/"

It sounds like you got your Xbox 360 second-hand..

dangert125074d ago

@HarryM
nah got it brand new would never trust an xbox 2nd hand

AAACE55074d ago

The red ring problem will never be forgotten. Gamers will always wonder if a console will fail on then and fanboys will use it as a crutch when they feel insecure!

Prime example, the new one launched with a redesign that should eliminate future problems. Yet, so many articles came up about this and that. Then fanboys are still throwing RROD jokes around.

Anyway, I have a Jasper 360 that I got in Dec. 08, and it seems to be running like a pro. I had a couple of 360's that died on me and they all gave me warning signs that I tried to ignore. But no issues with this one.

I'm still getting the new one though! It will look better next to the Ps3 slim than the one I have.

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Hacker5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Well sadly same can't be said about ps3 my friend got the YLOD 3 days ago. Also i'll wait a month or two before i get a xbox360 slim just to be safe.

mindedone5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

So you[r friend's (edit)] PS3 yellow lights, and that brings you cause to not buy an Xbox?

Joule5074d ago

He doesn't even own a PS3, damn fanboy.

beans5074d ago

How is he a fanboy? He obviously doesn't own either console yet and is waiting for them both to become more reliable.

mushroomwig5074d ago

Your friends product failed?

Wow that's impossible, I've never heard of any product ever failing before.

/obvious sarcasm

It's called bad luck, no product has a 0% failure rate..you have to learn to accept that.

Garnett5074d ago

I went through 5 PS3's, all of them YLOD.

I had a launch model all the way to a slim and they all break.

Fix you stuff Sony!!!

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mindedone5074d ago

I (accidentally) left it on overnight and I got three red rings, but after I turned it off, and came back later, it was fine. But at the same time, I keep it very VERY well ventilated, like I do ALL my electronics. My Xbox is about two feet above my PS3, and my STB is about two feet above my cable STB. Everything liquid cool.

Deathracer5074d ago

Both my PS3 and Xbox are both well ventilated as well. I've owned my Xbox for 4 years and luckily havn't had a single issue with it. My PS3 however got the YLOD after only owning it 2 years, I replaced it with the slim model and that thing works like a charm.

Donny5074d ago

ive had my ps3 since 2006, works like a charm, no problems. nuff said

MGRogue20175074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Looks like they really have fixed the RROD *gasp*

But are they telling the truth?? That remains to be seen. Only time will tell. :)

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7722h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE19h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73019h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor16h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos16h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor16h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos15h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 18h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 18h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 22h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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