The HD DVD camp touts that its sales of players are up, while the Blu-ray guys' sales are down.
blu-ray player sales of course is down. Because that's no need to buy a blu-ray player if PS3 which is same price can do the same thing. Count PS3 out, blu-ray player sales will be pretty bad. That's how they spin which is the only reasonable way to do it and the only way to continue fighting.
*pats HD DVD on the head* It's ok HD DVD...it's ok...here have an ice cream cone..there there HD DVD...
I guess they have to look at the bright side of everything, but the stand alone players are where it ends
MAKES SENSE SINCE THE BLUR-GAY MOVIES LOOK LIKE SH!!T COMPARED TO HDDVD.
Great... ANOTHER troll in the PS3 section. This user just goes onto every PS3 news and CAPS LOCKS a bunch of negative crap. Makes TheMART look nice compared to this person. -_-;;;
And for your information, which you certainly lack of, HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs both can support the same codecs and encoding of movies, shows, etc.
HD-DVD companies tend to use the more expensive encoding (which I don't recall the name of atm). Meanwhile, a lot, but NOT ALL Blu-Ray companies use the MPEG-4 format for their movies. That's why some movies don't look as crisp and clear as the HD-DVD movies. It's all due to companies wanting to save money by utilizing a cheaper encoding.
One of the Blu-Ray movies which DO use uber high-quality encoding is 007: Casino Royale :D
Dude this article is in the PS3, 360 and Tech sections. You can read it right below the Headline at the top for future reference.
What are they making HD DVD players for the PS3 now
They always eliminate the PS3 sales to make themselves look better...
Don't get me wrong I hate both formats but prove what you say.
Seriously that is the lamest thing i have ever heard, Blu-Ray software sales trounce HD DVD because of PS3, people who are investing in the format so early on are investing in a PS3 because they get a game console and a great Blu-Ray player, HD DVD camp are just plucking at straws now...
Look at Amazon.com...
Bluray disc sales are at least 2 to 1 to HD-DVD...
Woolworth went Bluray
Target went bluray
Blockbuster went bluray.
90 percent of the movie studios are bluray
Why is even HD-DVD crying now...they lost before it started!
for the 360, ignore PS3 console sales, and try they damndest to not talk about how Blu-ray is slaughtering them in movie sales. That's some damn good PR! =]
The HD DVD is a stand alone DVD player which is an option for 360 owners and is marketed as a DVD player and not a gaming console. The PS3 is marketed as a gaming console when it's realy a Blu-Ray player. Isn't it you Sony fans that always dissagree with people that say the true reason for the PS3 is Blu-Ray but when the Blu-Ray is excluded in somthing like this your defending it as Blu-Ray? Make up your minds is is a gaming console first or is it a Blu-Ray player first, can't have both?
As it stand, and I'm not sure why (stand-alone)HD-DVD players continue to sell. HD-DVD you need support, cause it's looking like your on Life support right now.
The only thing BD have is support, as far as major edge, when we talk about stand-alones. PS3 do help but you can and you can't count them.
If MS had put in a HD-DVD drive in the 360's then the PS3's Edge would of been NULL, except, lets say it again, HD-DVD you need more studio support. Sad but true, the only thing that can save HD-DVD is studio support. Everything else builds and follows on that.
Agree and people were saying that 2 years ago that Blu-Ray and Sony would win because of the studio support, but no dumb ass people still disagree with the obvious even though it's staring them in the face...
Disagree because I was using it a year ago long before you ever turned up, so i'd appreciate a change :)
The merrier if you ask me. This is also my PS3 wallpaper.
Who the hell is this in your avatar?
hd dvd is finish
HD-Dvd is DONE....Blu-ray is clearly the winner here.
the blu ray campus hd dvd promotionasl e.t.c are of course bias
What?!? It doesn't really matter how many "set top boxes" you sell. It matters how many discs get sold, how many movies are being watched. Bluray is in fact leading with both. PS3 - That's Bluray's secret weapon. Over 4 million are in people's homes and a bunch of them have HDTV's and love Blu-ray, therefore the amount of bluray disc players in people's home over HD DVD is trouncing, and the amount of discs sold is also crushing HD DVD.
They boasted the same thing less than a week ago and even then they discounted PS3 as Blu-ray player. The format war isn't over and while HD-DVD isn't doing terrible, these types of claims are rather poor taste IMO.
To being down there boasting something that they dont have and that is movies Blu Ray has practically every studio on its side so I dont know what there boasting about considering this article is BS they probably wanted to make people think there sales are up when there sales arent even moving an inch since they dont barely have movies on there HD DVD.
This is like how Obama and Clinton were avoiding EVERY single issue on the democratic debate.
YouTube video - "Mr. Obama...you voted for something then backtracked and said it was wrong. What do you have to say to that?"
Obama - "President Bush is WRONG!"
Anyone else catch the debate? I think our country is screwed if we choose ANY of them.
BTW...Guiliani was avoiding the subject of abortion the other day to win over a church. I respect the man for what he did during 9/11, but stop being such a coward.
Anyway, yeah...they're not including the PS3...which we all knew would happen. They don't want to include the BEST one because that would make them look bad.
I am sad that they got Hot Fuzz though. That movie freakin' rocked! I'll pick it up on DVD and upscale it. It should still look really good. Anyone pickin' up 300 on Blu-ray soon?
I'm just waiting for one or the other to be officially called the winner. But, that being said, yes you can count the players that MS has sold; they are, after all, only for playing HD DVD movies, not gaming. The PS3, on the other hand is a gaming machine, owner polls and other market research indicate only about 13-15 percent ever play a movie. So you could legitimately count no more than that 15% towards Blue ray movie player sales.
I don't know where that puts the actual sales count, and like I said above, I don't really care. I will say that I am semi-rooting for HD DVD due to it's prices dropping faster. But thats the only reason. I'm getting antsy to buy one or the other, but not both.
to see where you pulled that 13-15% number from... or maybe I wouldnt, cause I'm guessing you pulled it from your a$$.
just a couple of days ago.
So, it looks like the only thing that needs to be pulled out of an a$$, is your head.
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I don't know if the 13-15% data is correct or not, but if it IS true:
Then out of the 4.48 million PS3s sold, then 580 000 to 670 000 PS3 owners purchase Blu-Ray movies, which is still pretty significant.
Of course, I've learnt not to trust these market research, since the research is not reliable and depends on WHERE they ask their questions. It can be possible that they surveyed PS3 owners who don't buy Blu-Ray movies.
Also, I find it hilarious that we're talking about this, since on another article someone else stated that over half the PS3 owners bought the system for Blu-Ray movies instead of games, which completely contradicts the 13-15% statement XD. I'm more inclined to believe the 13-15% data though.
The very fact that they submitted this article proves so; why didn't they count disk sales and the PS3 in those statistics? Once Universal go, HD-DVD has had it.
And that's a repost from Xeocet xbot,you wanna hear good news for Bluray:You all know SPIELBERG:"In a surprise announcement, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment says it will bring the very first Steven Spielberg film to high-def disc this November with a 30th Anniversary Blu-ray Edition of 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind.'
Due in stores November 13 (on both Blu-ray and as a standard-def DVD re-issue), the 30th Anniversary Edition will be the first home video release to include all three versions of the Spielberg classic: the original 1977 theatrical cut, the re-edited 1980 theatrical Special Edition, and Spielberg's own 1998 Director's Cut.The news of 'Close Encounters' comes as something of a surprise. Earlier this year, rumors circulated that Universal was planning an HD DVD debut of a trio of Spielberg blockbusters, 'Jaws,' 'E.T.' and 'Jurassic Park.' Those reports were quickly squashed, however, by the studio, citing a lack of approval of the filmmaker.
Now, it seems that at least for 'Close Encounters,' Spielberg is embracing Blu-ray"
Another good news:Tartan to Launch US Blu-ray Support with 'Oldboy'.Indie distributor Tartan Video has announced it will exclusively support Blu-ray in the US, starting with its release of the Korean cult hit 'Oldboy' this October.
The company had already announced plans to support Blu-ray in the European market, where it will release three titles this fall. Now comes word that the controversial Korean cult hit 'Oldboy' will mark Tartan's entry into the domestic Blu-ray market when it hits stores on October.
"To go with Blu-ray was a no-brainer for Tartan," said founder Hamish McAlpine of his company's choice to eschew HD DVD. "Not only is the format superior [to HD DVD], but also the fact that seven out of eight studios have chosen to release their films on Blu-ray means that this so-called 'format war' is over before it has really begun."
Tartan's initial specs for 'Oldboy' include 1080p video utilizing AVC MPEG-4 compression, as well as DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and standard Dolby Digital audio.
this war is years from being over no matter how you look at it so it doesnt matter if you buy hd dvd or blu-ray by the time this thing is done 90% of the world will have moved on to digital distribution... i personally prefer hd dvd but to each their own.
I'm an Xbox 360 owner who is pained by the fact that PS3 and its new format is proving to be successful. Therefore, I will pretend like the entire format war (of which I used to be a strong supporter of HD-DVD) doesn't matter.
dont put words in my mouth, you honestly do not know what you are talking about. first some of my fav movies are only on hd dvd, fear & loathing and eternal sunshine to name a few, second the quality on many films is better on hd dvd because of the lack of vc1 use on blu-rays side at the beginning, third hd dvd has more features than blu-ray, forth i'd rather have less DRM than more. but thats me. so before you go off thinking you know what i meant to say, you should educate yourself on what you are trying to talk about.
Dont get blinded by ms's propaganda, digital distribution is the future, but its gonna TAKE A LONG TIME, simply because the bandwidth is not hear yet.
The quality of digital distribution is not as good as blu-ray and hd-dvd. Hell even some areas do not have unlimted downloads.
Phyical media is still here to stay for quite sometime.
There's a big difference between educating yourself and brainwashing yourself. There are more reasons than I care to list that contribute to the fact that Blu-ray is absolutely murdering HD-DVD in sales and in support. It's been done to death, but Blu-ray's superiority is so obvious at this point that if you're going to deny it now you're just never going to accept reality. One only needs to look at your profile to see why you stand where you do.
Xbox 360 Tag: bloody diarrhea
PS3 Tag: playstation... pfffft! more like gaystation
Mii Tag (Wii): ooh look at my fancy gamecube with a funny remote
"Our hardware sales are up, and if you don't consider 5 million blu-ray players (PS3) their hardware numbers are down. See, we're winning...sort of."
HDDVD is hurting big time - lol even look at the picture this guy picked for this thread - the HDDVD 30GB dual layer to make it seem HDDVD has alot more space then BLURAY hahahahahahhaha
My sources tell me that Blu-Ray will soon be making an appearance in digital cinema projection in the near future, Blu-Ray will be used to play titles not released on the HDD currently operated for new releases in digital cinemas.
This is a huge investment and a clear blow to HDDVD sales with distributors seeking to release back dated material.
Although some hardware modifications will need to be implemented I am in no doubt Blu-Ray has already won this battle. It'll be flash memory next.
Oh come on now just stop you've lost accept it. There is so many loop holes in your statment it's not funny. Overlookin the PS3 sales is just way too obvious a sign of desparation to be ignored.
You got a good run with DVD's Hell your still makin crap loads of money off that. Sony just has the better offering to take us to the next level. Stop tryin to draw this out anymore than it needs to, just cut it out and make a Blu-ray player and call it a day. We've all grown tired of this as well as Blackbuster, Target and am sure many others will throw there hats into the ring soon.
Listen to us "HD DVD Group" it's over.... Now move on.
HD DVD AND Blue Ray will equal Laser Disk.
Remember my words.
shelf space of blu-ray and hd-dvd is actually increasing faster than how dvd started, plus studios are actually pushing out a blu-ray or hdvd version of new movies coming out.
war will come when one of these formats make a stand alone player that is less that say $150, until then, it will be at least a couple years until one of these actually make a differnce in an everyday house hold, and not some fanboy or electronic savy person.
The European HD DVD Promotional Group said last week that it holds a 74 percent market share in terms of standalone hardware in Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Spain and Switzerland.
Citing data based on NPD reports, Nielsen Netratings reports and point of sale data from the studios, overall HD DVD hardware sales were up 37 percent from Q1 to Q2 2007, while software sales experienced a 20 percent increase in growth.
According to the Group, during the same time-frame, overall Blu-ray hardware sales saw a 27 percent decline from Q1 to Q2, and Blu-ray software sales were down 5 percent. It is unclear if PlayStation 3 consoles were excluded from those numbers.
The Groups says that HD DVD owners will have close to 1,000 titles worldwide to choose from by the holidays.
Those are direct quotes. It is what it is folks. No need to get upset. It will go back and forth until the price of a stand alone hits 200 or under.
Its excellent news that MS has dropped the price of the add on to 179 with 5 free movies. With 11.6 million possible future HD dvd supporters...Getting that price down and adding 5 movies is Great.
After september the 5 free movies go away. But by Christmas I expect the cost of the HD dvd add on to drop to 129.99. HD dvd is looking good. Most movie studios are releasing movies on both blu ray and HD dvd. Minus Disney and Sony. But with massive sales all that can and will change.
Give it up already and you may save a buck or two.
they dont count ps3 because its not a standalone bluray player
i believe in the end it all comes down to price and the standalone HD player
its that simple not everyone is going to have a ps3 for a HD movie player for bluray price will impact everything!!! mark my words...
i can see this war ending in the year 2009 when everything goes HD but really people dont care about HD some people are so blinded that they cant see a difference between DVD and High Definition
I have been saying that since the beginning. Standalone prices and sales determine the outcome of this war. I don't care which wins because I haven't bought a player. HD-dvd has 300 and 250 dollar players, while BR has 500 at the cheapest but more studio support. So we'll see this CHRIST-mas
with the purchase of say,3 store bought $59+ games(proof of purchases required of course),or when you purchase 6 or 7 XBLA games.
I don't really know but,yeah......that's the idea.
Why do some people call fanboys trolls? xD
Fanboys are just fans, trolls well are devious f**kers that come to forums or comment sections and arn't above lieing to spin a negative story in favor of what they love. They bounce from similiar topic to simuliar tipic to spout the same thing over and over, some actually work for the companys they praise and were outed in quit a few mags and news sites over the past year and a half. Trolls come from all sides they arn't just Sony, MS or Nentindo they are all over anything that has a fanbase.
their console makers poles.(Sony altar boys mostly).
They'll do anything for a Pepsi & a candy bar.
is old hat. The masses will decide the outcome. Who has sold what means poop. Worse comes to worse buy both so you get it all.
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