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Koei Questions UE3 Engine, Epic Responds

Koei's Jarik Sikat blames Unreal Engine 3 (UE3) for the difficulty with Fatal Inertia on PS3, and he suggests that many other high-profile UE3-based games (pointing to Silicon Knights' Too Human in particular) have been delayed for the same reason.

In response, Mark Rein (VP of Epic Games) defends UE3 and cites Rainbow Six Vegas as an example that UE3 is not the problem: "The bottom line is that making great games is hard work, ... There is no magic cure-all that completely hides the complexity of making world-class high-performance games on complex computing systems..."

"Our engine is not a launch-title technology. If you want to make launch titles you take your previous-gen engine and upgrade. If you want to make stunning true next-gen games like Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3 (which people who license our engine generally often aspire to) you have to accept that it takes time to learn the intricacies of the systems."

Midway's Steven Allison agrees with Epic and says that Midway has not experienced any exceptional difficulty with making Stranglehold, a UE3-based game.

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OC_MurphysLaw6119d ago

I am starting to believe that Epic is a tad guilty of under supporting their selling of the Unreal 3 engine to other companies. I mean how many games use that engine and honestly none have yet to really come close to a Gears of War level of quality. It's just odd that it would be so drastically different for so many.

As for Rein.... In response, Mark Rein (VP of Epic Games) defends UE3 and cites Rainbow Six Vegas as an example that UE3 is not the problem. Well I would counter that with companies like Ubisoft are large development studio's who have a ton of assets to throw at a game like R6 so they could more easily deal with a broken engine than say a Koei or a Silicon Knights. Those smaller publishers are much more reliant on the engine being perfectly suited for them than needing to be modified to work right, etc.

Anyway...the legal implications against Epic seem to be growing.

Kaneda6118d ago

Unreal Engine had problem with PS3... it has unique architect. RB 6 for PS3 was delay for like 7 months... I think Sony is helping Epic on PS3 development.. According to the past news...

Bloodmask6119d ago

and others aren't. I have to wonder if different versions of the Engine were released to different publishers.

Silicon Knights said that the UE3 they received was incomplete. I'm betting on this as the cause of all the problems.

There really is a difference in the quality of Epics use of the UE3 as compared to other publishers. Kinda makes you wonder if their version of the Engine is more refined.

nobizlikesnowbiz6119d ago

Since they made it, wouldn't they be better at working with it?

I mean like they'd be better at the coding and stuff, to make the game look that much better?

I'm not a dev, but that makes sense to me.

PS3Rebel6119d ago

""Many other games using the Unreal Engine 3 have been delayed including Stranglehold, BioShock, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Rainbow Six: Vegas for the Playstation 3, Turok, Frame City Killer, and Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway""

is the statement correct?? lost odyssey and mass effect for ps3???

lol that would be hilarious

the_round_peg6119d ago (Edited 6119d ago )

He meant only the PS3 version of Rainbow Six: Vegas had been delayed, but not the 360 version.

The correct way to read the statement is: "Stranglehold", "BioShock", "Lost Odyssey", "Mass Effect", "Rainbow Six: Vegas for the Playstation 3" (i.e., but not for Xbox 360), "Turok", "Frame City Killer", and "Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway" had been delayed. Do not misread them and think Lost Odyssey or Mass Effect are coming to PS3, because they are not and will not.

Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect are NOT coming to PS3, given that Microsoft is the publisher.

Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect are NOT coming to PS3, given that Microsoft is the publisher. Publishers reserve the right to deny a title being ported to any particular console. That's how most publisher contracts work anyway.

sajj3166119d ago

since Silicon Knights have had Too Human in development, I wouldn't be surprised if they got an early build of the engine. I believe they are using their own engine now (correct me if I'm wrong). Delay means more money. Being a smaller developer, it will hit their pockets hard, especially if they had to rebuild the game from scratch using another engine.

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Rumored Gears of War Collection is at the top of my 2024 Xbox wishlist

As the long-rumored Gears of War Collection looks like it may finally materialize on Xbox, the timing could not be better as Gears 6 and movie news swirls.

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(Insert “It should be multi platform if Microsoft investors wants more money” JK here)
All jokes aside congratulations to all the gears fans it will be a blast I remember having fun on the first one on my 360 elite till got RROD and quit Xbox all together but that’s a story for another day.
Congratulations 🎊 🍾 🎉 🎈 🎉 🙏

Wyesvin99d ago

I'm excited for this just aslong is on the pc also cause I don't have the newest xbox console.

shinoff218398d ago

I enjoyed the tactical one. I can't remember the actual name but it was fun.

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Gears of War Collection allegedly in testing phase for Xbox release

Marcus Fenix and the crew could be back on your screens once more, as the rumored Gears of War Collection is near completion on Xbox.

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VenomUK100d ago

sweeeeeeeeeeeet
Switch and PS5 owners are gonna love this.

Stuart5756100d ago

Every article, console fanboy trite, all these years later. Let me explain it AGAIN, in simple terms for the fanboys. Sentient human gamers do have their preferred platform, however they will buy and own multiple platforms so they can enjoy the games they want to enjoy. I own and have owned multiple platforms, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and now Valve, simply to enjoy a wide range of games across a broad spectrum of platforms. It's great. You don't have to pick a 'team' and cheer them on through thick and thin, dissing the other 'team'. And for you 'VenomUK' to state 'Switch and PS5 owners are gonna love this', proves that you're a bit behind. Learn, enjoy, live, develop, trust and coexist if you can, life is better that way.

Blad3runner00100d ago

@Stuart5756
Well said.
This is why i never understand fanboying over hardware. This is not like a sports team, its just hardware. Why some people have this mentality to pick a side and stick with it and refuse to look at other platforms, therefore depriving themselves of games that are only available on those platforms. They are suppose to be gamers after all?

FinalFantasyFanatic100d ago

It's practically guaranteed to come to PC as well, if that's the case, I might pick it up after it gets a discount or two.

TheEroica100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Thank goodness for pro gamer companies like Microsoft.... It's about time we unified platforms where now only corporate suits benefit! Pro gamers all the way. Thanks Microsoft!

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RaidenBlack100d ago

Yup ... bring Gears 2, 3 Judgement as well as Fable II and Halo 5 to PC

phoenixwing100d ago

Online portions would be a bonus.

FinalFantasyFanatic100d ago

I'm really shocked that Halo 5 still isn't on PC yet, almost everything is ported over and that's the only Halo game that hasn't been ported.

Profchaos100d ago

Take it with a grain of salt this leaker has been wrong many Times

The connection has been rumoured in the past so there's some credibility but it's more if it's actually in testing or not

Father__Merrin100d ago

tell u what gears 3 on series x same 360 game but in 4k and 60fps is a dream it looks crystal clear

Sciurus_vulgaris100d ago

The Series X enhanced versions of Gears 3 and Judgement can at times look like Xbox One titles.

Concertoine100d ago

Yeah i got into Gears 3 multiplayer last year. People still play it a lot. Tons of maps and looks great with the 60 FPS.

Brazz100d ago

It would be funny to see Gears of War collection on Nintendo Switch.

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I'll Be Happy With Anything Gears of War, But Nothing Beats A 1-3 Remaster

Huzaifah from eXputer "With a new Gears of War game possible, I'll go ahead and say that the original trilogy was the peak of the series and should get remastered."

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Wyesvin105d ago

I wish they would put 2 and 3 on pc

RaidenBlack104d ago

^ this
and judgement as well
Why not Remaster them and release them as Marcus Fenix Collection for PC and Series

phoenixwing104d ago (Edited 104d ago )

I would buy it. I sh1t on microsoft alot but their gears of War series I loved. Some great gameplay and if they would keep up the multiplayer I'd play that too.

CrimsonWing69105d ago

1-3 are incredible with each one being bigger and better than the last. I don’t know what it is, but 4 was super underwhelming to me and 5 was slightly better than 4, but I didn’t feel the same epic feeling I had when going through 1-3. I hope 6 brings that epicness back, but yea like a full remake of 1-3 with current-gen visuals would be *chef’s kiss*.

ocelot07104d ago

I was actually devastated with Gears 1 Remaster on Xbox and PC. From when the OG released in 2006 right up until Gears 2 released a few years later. Me and a small group of friends would play it almost daily.

When the remaster arrived. It was annoying that they changed the way you could find a create games. The PC version was dead on arrival as it didn't release on steam just the crappy windows store so about 7 people (including me) bought it. I think I managed to find about 5 games in the first week of release. After that it was just a ghost town.

Not sure about Xbox version. Didn't actually try it until I got a series s in late 2022. It was completely dead online.

chicken_in_the_corn104d ago

A new game would be best. I don't understand why gamers want to rebuy old games over something new.

Juiceid104d ago

It an excuse to revisit something you loved a long time, and it’s prettier and shinier!

raWfodog104d ago

Yeah, new game is always better in my book but remake/remaster is definitely a good runner-up.

franwex104d ago (Edited 104d ago )

Agreed. The old games are there anyway.

I went back and played them all again in anticipation of Gears 5 with a friend and they hold up really well. In fact, they were more fun than the recent ones in some ways.

neutralgamer1992104d ago

we need all gears of war games on steam please

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