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ArcFatalix3142d ago

wait for GT5 then, one game with huge fanbase doesnt mean anything. look at alan wake uc2 killer goty what happened to it?

-Alpha3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

*Note to self, stay away from this article once it gets approved*


Definitely an unfair comparison and pretty unnecessary. However, it's nothing to get upset over. It's a tweet. He isn't saying anything wrong, just something unnecessary. And it's websites like this that take that and glorify a simple tweet for hits.

Take a look at Kevin Butler's tweets. He says some pretty flamebait things too. KB gets off the hook because he's considered funny. What people fail to realize is that he is a Sony actor, and a great mouthpiece who gets away saying what he says. The KB character is a smart move on so many levels.

My point is, people automatically take their positions like its second nature: PS3 fans will get defensive, 360 fans will tout the sales. The news is purposely designed to just this. It benefits N4G, it benefits the site, and it benefits the ads. Don't get caught up in a tweet and think ahead. That's all I'm saying, I assume this will generate lots of heat. The purpose of this news piece is to get people fighting. Flamebait at its finest. Tweets really shouldn't be allowed to be posted as news.

ArcFatalix3142d ago

Greenbergs world revolves around NPD.

UC1+UC2 = 7 million itself worldwide in NPD its just 3 million for both games.

very unfair since 360 install base is 20 million and halo 3 is a 3 year old game.

lociefer3142d ago Show
zootang3142d ago

*Playing sales*
Guess he has more fun playing with his calculator

evrfighter3142d ago

"Playing sales*
Guess he has more fun playing with his calculator "


Ya that's kinda his job.

ColdFire3142d ago

Hmm, depends where you get data from, might be true :/

Lionhead3142d ago

Oh man this is deffo hitting the top of the site lol

Can't wait to see Shifty's response

Let's go fanboys! =D

Anon19743142d ago

When he has nothing to crow about he makes something up. As I've pointed out before, 360 console sales have been down year over year for the past 4 quarters, 360 console revenue is down, 360 software revenue is down, 3rd party development is in decline according to Microsoft and everyone's ship targets for the PS3 and 360 expect the PS3 to outsell the 360 by about 4 million units this fiscal year, and even with Natal's released it's expected that sales will still decline for the entire year.

If you're facing those types of reality, what's a PR guy to do? Just what Greenberg did. Grab some meaningless stats and act like they're some kind of major accomplishment. We see him do this all this time. No different than the UK's Xbox guy suddenly going "Wow! Sure the 360's in decline - but we've got great attach rates! Don't ask what they are, but trust us...they're really good!"

eagle213142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

Aaron Greenberg WEIGHS more than the Uncharted Team, Insomniac Team and Santa Monica Team combined. His fat ass is a waste of space. :)

Uncharted 2 won more AWARDS than Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable 2, Too Human, and Forza COMBINED. :)

-Alpha3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

Promised to stay out of this article but who am I kidding: Darkside said it excellently.

But this is a TWEET people, let's not get hung up about it. Don't give the attention that everybody who partook in this shenanigan wants, N4G, Greenberg, the article writer, and the submitter, even the approval guys. If there was any justice it wouldn't be approved because a tweet is not news.

Edit: Too Late, wow. 103 comments already, too, may as well grab the popcorn.

KingME3142d ago

Don't fall for it! It's a fanboy test! Greenberg is making this statement to out all the Sony fanboys that can't resist. True fanboys will get butt hurt and whinning about his comment.

PLEASE don't fall for it! /End Sarcasm

kunit22c3142d ago

360 fanboys have only 3 good "exclusives" to choose from anyway, so huge install base with 3 choices to choose from, sales are going to be high, but on the PS3 so many good exclusives you have to pick and choose.

FarEastOrient3142d ago

I agree with Alpha this is just a twit Greenburg is trying to break then news talk for the past three weeks which have been mostly about exclusive PS3 games coming out. Since all Xbox 360 could strum up leading to E3 is Natal and Halo Reach...

Domer253142d ago

It's a tweet for fuks sake. How the hell is this approved for news. Flame on!

HolyOrangeCows3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

I own all 7 and I enjoyed all 6 of those titles more than Halo 3.

You fanboys can fap to sales charts and claim that PS3 gamers "don't buy games" but I'll still be playing and enjoying all of these.

Cevapi883142d ago

i really dont understand why Greenburg goes out and personally has to attack the competition....yes we know that Halo is a good game and 360 gamers enjoy every new iteration that has come out....respect to Bungie for making Halo possible on the Xbox, without it, Sony wouldn't have pushed its devs to start working on their own FPS franchise...what he should be saying is that its nice to see that we have a diverse range of games on all platforms this gen that all gamers can enjoy including the UC series GoW III and Halo on the 360....then again im a dreamer, if these higher ups actually went out of their way to get along and respect the competition, fanboyism would begin to die slowly

wxer3142d ago


all what the Xbox was getting lately is BAD new
the xbots need something to cheer up
pathetic trolling forn the biggest xbot on earth green turd him self

ShinMaster3142d ago

Doesn't matter how much it sold and people should care unless they are share holders or something.

List of awards received by Uncharted 2:

How many GOTYs has Halo 3 won?!?!?

Sheikh Yerbouti3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

The Entertainment division at Microsoft is taking some heavy criticisms. Courier has been discontinued, Zune has bombed and the 360 is losing market share. Microsoft shareholders are wondering why the company is wasting time in markets with small margins when Microsoft's core business has a margin of around 70%. Allard's out and now Greenburg is working to keep his.

Some are suggesting that Microsoft exit gaming if Natal bombs (Yeah, they're idiots):

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BeaRye3142d ago

I'm looking forward to GT5 more than anybody, but a racing game, no matter how amazing, can't beat the buying power of frat boys, grown men, high schoolers, and every other shooter fan with a 360. GT5 may not outsell Uncharted 2. Then again, it might break all records. Just MHO.

Double Toasted3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )


Edit: BTW, yeah, Halo is a beast!!!

Arcfatalix...cry moar!!

Sunny_D3142d ago

Dude, do you even know about GT? Every single entry into the series has been able to sell 10 million plus! When GT3 was released it had sold 15 million units alone! That was when the PS2's install base was only about 20 million! 3/4 of a userbase bought it. That is true buying power. The only Halo that ever sold 10 million units was Halo 3 and that's because of Microsoft's really agressive advertising this gen. Hell, GT5 Prologue was able to sell about 5 million units, even though it's basically a glorified demo. So to say GT5 won't outsell is just crazy talk. Just MHO.

pxpxp3142d ago

since you apparently dont know that Gran Turismo is one of the best selling video game franchises in history.

eagle213142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

Gran Turismo has sold over 53 million. :)

iliimaster3142d ago

GT is to ps3 as halo is to xbox

but they dont milk it as bad as master chief frootloops
master cheif cartoons. halo red vs orange... halo wars? odst?
halo burgerking games... poping out halo games like madden

KingME3142d ago

You know, usually when Greenberg opens his mouth, I typically just smile and think to myself he's silly.

But, I must say, to make this statement (if he did) it does make him look like a giant douchebag that's trying to rile people up.

Crystallis3142d ago

"Nah 360 fans buy many games period"

Just like 360 fanboys bought Alan Wake right?

Sez 3142d ago

yes like Sony owners brought 3D dot and mod racer for the ps3. See what o did there

And I bet alot more people brought Alan wake than both those games.

Ontopic: well it's not like he's lying. I remember when some of sony's exec's was also doing some trash talking. Everyone ran in saying. " bu bu but it's bit like they are lying. Well same case here.

Halochampian3142d ago

Halo games over past 9 years.
Halo: CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo 3: ODST
Halo Reach

Games/year: .67

Gran Turismo Games over past 12 years:
Gran Turismo
Gran Turismo 2
Gran Turismo 3: A-spec
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue
Gran Turismo 4
Gran Turismo Portable
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Gran Turismo 6

Games/year: .67

The Maxx3142d ago

The GT series has had no competition during it's run until after Forza came out. The genre was not anything near to the over saturation as it is in the shooter genre.

Unfair comparisons. How good would Halo 3 have done if there was no other shooters out for 10 years?

ShinMaster3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

He was referring to non-game stuff the most.

Cartoons, books, I can't list the amount of nonsense out for it, but the marketing for the Halo franchise is over the top for something undeserving. Not that it's a bad series, it's good.
But come on, it's outdated. It was great back in the day (Halo 1/2)

Halochampian3142d ago

well if that's the case, Halo is a universe. It's really not just a game.

The books dig into that universe some and show how things came yo be that you would have never known just playing the game. I love them. Amazing stories.

As for the Animated movie was a collab of short flicks made by many different artists and their view on the Halo Universe.

I personally love how the Universe is open to people to explore with ideas.

It would be pretty hard to have a GT5 universe.

stonecold13142d ago

is way bigger than fable halo 3 gears and forza put together end statement

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Iamback3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

God he is pathetic, why write comment like that? Whats the point? Stupid troll. he forgot to mention that Halo only sells in USA, no one cares a bout it in EU/Pal market. Just for american kids NPD only includes NA sales. Smart guy he doesnt mention EU numbers.
Anyways isnt it said that game from that list destroys Halo 3?

Karum3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

oops wrong comment

HQLocated1113142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

Thats what happens when you only have one or two good exclusives to choose from lmao.

Halo, Gears.......

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Hallmark Moment3142d ago

Nah 360 fans buy many games period. It has nothing to do with your moronic comment and more to do with the franchise being the first hit on the new xbox at the time. It's like saying Mario sells good because there isn't anything else to buy when even a moron would know the iconic series will sell well no matter how you try to spin it. Just because PlayStation doesn't have such a franchise doesn't mean you need to bash. 120 million ps2's sold and the ratio of games sold to consoles sold suggest the ps brand never had a iconic franchise.

Karum3142d ago

The Playstation does indeed have such a franchise. You may have heard of it, it's a little franchise called Gran Turismo.

Socrates3142d ago

If you want to be completely ignorant and pretend in your own little fanboy world that all the 360 has is Halo and Gears then we can also say that the PS3 only has Uncharted 2 and God of War 3. And those didn't have as strong of retail success as the aforementioned 360 games.

Besides, if you want to talk about which console has the overall larger number of good games the 360 wins quite easily. The Xbox 360 has 340 games scored 75 or better on Metacritc, the PS3 on the other hand only has 246. It also has more games in any of the rating categories, i.e. 80+, 90+ etc.

I have far more games for my 360 than my PS3, so quit pretending the 360 is somehow deficient in that area.

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ToastyMcNibbles3142d ago

greenburg is such a great PS3 advertiser plugging 6 exclusive PS3 titles on his twitter

emk20043142d ago

why people are disagreeing with you comment i dont get it people on this site are so whinny.

bequietjohnnie3142d ago

haha, oh yea, tell this guy that wii sports sold more than all those games combined.....that must make it the greatest game in the world.

Jamie Foxx3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

.. greenburg i cant stand though

ShadowJetX3142d ago

It's Bungies achievement, not M$'s (though they do own the rights, who makes the games?). First thought that popped into my head. Greenburg should be banned from tweeter.

Also, the whole idea about tweeter being used as a news source is completely true (however, it's completely stupid and should be shut down). Guess what group stated that tweeter is a valid news source?

ProjectVulcan3142d ago

NPD figures for NORTH AMERICA again. NOT worldwide. Greenberg knowing full well its a very different story outside of america, being 360's last stronghold as PS3 is well ahead in japan and now europe.

Its just baiting really

Imperator3142d ago

Yea, and Wii Fit has sold more than Halo 3, Gears 1 and 2 Combined. Halo has a huge fanbase and it's the sole reason a lot of people picked up the 360. Of course it would sell a lot. But a the same time, no other game even comes close to Halo 3's numbers on the 360.

GT5 will do big numbers since it, like Halo, has a huge fanbase.

MNicholas3142d ago

is a pretty universal kind of game and has sales appeal across user types from families to young single women to retirees.

Halo 3 and the Gears games only appeal to a certain kind of gamer. It just so happens that 360 owners tend to be that kid of gamer.

The Lazy One3142d ago

no it hasn't.

wii fit 22.56

halo 3, gears 1, and gears 2
11.01 + 6.06 + 5.73 = 22.80

Kaneda3142d ago

But is it a great game?

ShadowJetX3142d ago

It's okay, it's nothing really special, the custom games can be really fun at times, it just takes the right people and no 12 YEAR OLDS.

Like my friend said, people started killing it when they started hacking the online and abused the system. But it can be still fun at times.

Halo Reach is more or less the same, only with more gimmicks.

I can't wait for all the disagrees to come, along with the loss of a bubble or two for touting an honest unbiased opinion.

SaberEdge3142d ago

Honest, unbiased opinion? Hahahah... you sound like a perfect clone of any other PS3 fanboy. No originality at all.

I'm sorry, I don't believe it is sincere. And it is a slap in the face to the millions of us that love and play the Halo games. A game doesn't have that kind of staying power by being mediocre.

littletad3142d ago

It is. And still being played daily.

NYPunk883142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

It's the last Halo game so it should sell well but it'll be interesting to see what fills it's place if anything ever does manage to fill that void. What will the Xbox be without Halo.

Congrats to Bungie for reaching this level of success. Can't wait to see what else is in store from them.

Good stuff.

MNicholas3142d ago

The Xbox360's consumer base is largely the same as the previous Xbox and relatively homogenous which means they all tend to have similar tastes in games.

The result is that all these "Xbots" tend to by the same game.

SnuggleBandit3142d ago

resistance- 3.7 million
resistance 2- 1.9 million
uncharted- 3.2 million
uncharted 2- 3.3 million
God of War 3- 2.5 million
Killzone 2- 2.3 million

Equals 16.9 million

Hmm thats funny cause halo 3 is sitting at just over 11 million...he must be talking only america as usual eh?

gtsentry3142d ago

WELL THATS THE ONLY PLACE XBOX HAS LEFT...cant blame him cuz sony is dominating everywhere else

ApexHell3142d ago

he counted odst aswell since it comes with halo 3 online and thats really all that matters about halo 3.

but even then it comes short 16.25

unknown1003142d ago

Is your source VGChartz??.....if so your WRONG!!

Mista T3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

I honestly don't know what the point of this is...oh well, fanboys..... FIGHT!!!!

Wii Fit has sold probably all xbox exclusive games Aaron can think of, is Wii Fit the better game?

Imperator3142d ago

In his logic I would guess it is. It's probably the only game he plays. lol.

Crystallis3142d ago

He wont mention the Wii b/c all they care about is beating Sony. They are so worried about Sony yet they do not have a decent exclusive to compete with Sony's exclusives

CellularDivision3142d ago

lol, so NOW you incluide wii? lol. Wii is only incluided as a last resort for ps3 fanboys! you just prooved it! LOL

emk20043142d ago

i was think the same thing. so i guess if sales = quality then wii fit is the best game ever made. and we all know that is bs. sales dont equal quality and if a game is good is opinion so lets not all start arguing that halo is better than other games or vice verse.

Mista T3142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

I'm anything but a PS3 fanboy, fanboys are scum, as you are

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jeseth3142d ago

The majority of all those PS3 games are better than Halo 3. R2 being my least fav of the group

Quantity doesn't equal quality. If it does, a Toyota Corolla is a much superior car to a BMW 3 series.

k-Lan3142d ago

You telling us that a Corolla is the same price as a BMW 3 series? Quality varies from person to person. JPRG's are not my thing and a lot of other gamers love them. It's all about you though, i know.

basicsameh5143142d ago (Edited 3142d ago )

Sony need to make there games kid friendly in order for them to sell,no 5 year old wants to play killzone