Metal Gear Solid: Gray Fox Rising?

Snake, Snake, Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake! was the cry you heard in Metal Gear Solid: Guns of The Patriots, but this time Raiden, the somewhat childish soldier in Sons Of Liberty, turned super ninja has taken the lead. Kojima has never disappointed gamers in the past and at E3 2010, Metal Gear Solid: Rising will begin its rise.

The momentum and hype that’s now after Rising has been building for some time now. Ever since Raiden unexpectedly took the lead character’s role in Sons of Liberty, every Metal Gear Solid fans have payed close attention to him. Some love Raiden and most hate him.

But is it really Raiden? Some clues point to something else.

[IRetrouk]

raiden is solidus snakes son not a clone of the original gray fox

[Kurylo3d]

actually raiden is solidus snakes adopted son. Clones were unable to have children. In either case no way hes a clone of grey fox... not possible seeing as though solid snake and grey fox were friends in the original metal gear and metal gear 2... dont u think hed recognize his old friend looks just like the guy in metal gear solid 2 lol... Sorry this guy is a fool.

[palaeomerus]

Nobody wants to talk about the topic. It's just a lot of sad fanboy dick measuring.

I think the cyborg in MGR might be Sunny.

[IRetrouk]

you could be right but would raiden have let that happen? i think the red eyes have something to do with either an upgrade or as a result of that white blood stuff.

[palaeomerus]

I think they are just brown/hazel eyes.

[Akagi]

Since when does speculation = news?

[DelbertGrady]

Since N4G.

[HypermysticsonicHMSX]

I couldn't agree more.

[orion456]

Please be true.
Gray Fox is sort of like the Boba Fett of Metal Gear.
It does make a lot of sense sense.
It also explains why they didn't call it Metal Gear Raiden.
And I think we've had just about enough of Raiden.

[cranium]

It's not called Metal Gear Solid because you play as Solid Snake. It was called that to signify the series' transition into 3D games. I think Kojima said this himself one time. Otherwise MGS3 would have probably been called Metal Gear Naked.

[Punkrockrltj]

" Otherwise MGS3 would have probably been called Metal Gear Naked." and MGS2 would have to be called Metal Gear: Solid (for the first ten minutes), Raiden 2

[Cryptech]

I would love to play as Gray Fox. Or Raiden for that matter. If its Sunny I might puke unless they upgrade her like the did Raiden in MGS4, she seemed a little off in that one. Of course she was a little kid who didnt really have a life so I might cut her some slack.

[palaeomerus]

Um...if that IS Sunny then she's "upgraded". I mean that's clearly a cyborg in the picture.

[Croash]

To me, this was simply an old Raiden picture. Now Gray Fox would be cool but since we got a real Raiden picture showing him as a cyborg, it means Fox is dead already.

[324110493]

Raiden is not Gray Fox's clone, Raiden had parents, whom were killed by Solidus, this was revealed in MGS2.

[Templar72]

I'm a big fan of this shit (yes, I said Shit because I like it) and I clearly see that the autor of the article does not know nothing about MGS.

[DevastationEve]

I'm very sure this "Raiden" game will feature Sunny, and it's quite possible that she's the cyborg ninja we've been seeing. They could put Grey Fox in the suit too, it's just that they're saying that this MGS takes place between 2 and 4 which would mean a younger Sunny and a (supposedly) dead Grey Fox.

Or they could just do what everybody else ends up doing, turn it all into a clone story LOL.

[lpfisher]

Sunny isn't any older than 10 in MGS4 right? So how old would she be in Rising? Plus, she's not a cyborg ninja in 4 and again, Rising comes before 4. MGS4 takes place in 2014 and Sunny was born in 2007-2008 (somewhere in there). How could she be a cyborg ninja?

If you've got a plausible theory I'm open to it, it just seems impossible.

[cranium]

Olga was pregnant with Sunny in the prologue of MGS2. Then the patriots captured her (Sunny) at birth and forced Olga to do their bidding under the promise that they wouldn't hurt Sunny. I'm guessing that in Rising you will play as Raiden on his quest to rescue Sunny from the patriots with the help of EVA and the Paradise Lost resistance.

[frankymv]

The MGS is great but wayyyyyy too convoluted.

[Sagetech]

I love Raiden in MGS 4 but anyone find it funny how the original badass Frank Jauger got killed by getting stomped on by rex and raiden survives after being run over by a ship about 3 times the size of the Titanic? Gotta love kojima

[CellularDivision]

I thought it killed the moment. I was expecting Raiden to die. Then I find out he survived, and im like WTF???

At least Fox wouldve had a better chance of surviving, Since it was a straight stomp, you would think his armor would withstand all the pressure.
While on Raiden's case, it seemed as if he had been scraped by the boat, thus scraping off his armor and plus a horrible death. Like scraping an ant on the sidewalk.

[PirateThom]

As an aside, in Twin Snakes, REX stomps down and then scrapes its foot along the ground, leaving a huge, bloody trail.

The armour Grey Fox wore was capable of withstanding a lot of punishment, but it didn't make him invincible by any means. Enough pressure will eventually cause any metal to give.

[Dsnyder]

:/

[Moonboots]

That's the first thing that came to mind when I read the title.

This is Raiden.

[Batzi]

...from start to end is POINTLESS. You see if the author calling himself "expert" would've watched the teaser for Rising he would've known that:

1) Campbell says: Raiden is back!
2) Kojima Productions staff confirmed that this was Raiden
3) It's frickin obviously Raiden!

[Cernunnos]

Seriously... This was debated when the FIRST teaser image dropped! And it was officially debunked by Hideo himself. Fail article.

[BYE]

It's Gamethirst, what do you expect?

[Unbornkirkster19]

What if Gray Fox aka Frank Jaeger raped Raidens mother thus Raiden being born, Solidus killing Raidens Mother and recruiting him him into the war. Raiden all along meant to be the stage in cybernetic super soldiers. Thats just my 2 sense.

[jacksonsgames]

Hmmmmm, this is interesting. Adding a little drama to this conspiracy! So is it raiden or Frank? Who knows. We will see at E3, its going to be a big E3 this year!

[TooTall19]

This website plagiarizes.

[keltickennedy]

I remember all these rumors happening before last E3. No its Raiden, no its Grey Fox, no its Sunny!!!. Then it was confirmed at the press event THAT IT WAS RAIDEN. Why the fuck are we going through this all again?

[King Hippo]

It's not being directed by Kojima so the story is a generic fanfic at best. The story in this won't even be relevant.

[earbus]

Wish it stayed on ps3 not a fan of stealth games or jap games.

[USEYOURFIST]

i think its raiden and its just going to show how he went from camp newbie in mgs2 to super ninja baddass in 4, most of the speculation first came from the eye colour which could have easily been a design choice that they thought nooone would notice/ a mistake, or a story element but still looks to be raiden to me + gray fox is dead

[YourFlyness]

Kojima probably feels the same way about this games as he does Snakes Revenge. Hes more concern with Peace Walker!

[Whitefox789]

This was already proven months ago.

From The Snake Soup

They posted a new image of Raiden that was found while playing MGS: Peace Walker.

So I'm not going to even consider the Raiden picture from E3 09

There was also the image of Raiden ontop of Crying Wolf so again Rising = Raiden

[TheForgotten0ne]

Well, I do concider myself a hardcore MGS fan, and I do know quite a lot about MGS awell. And I really want this to be Grey Fox, and I could even begin saying it's him because of the name Rising. But he died, it's as simple as that.

And this game was set to be betweeen MGS2 and MGS4 right(Havent followed Rising so much, and I don't have any hopes for it either.) - so it can't be Grey Fox, if he were around in this time, we would have heard about it in MGS4, comon!

But, why the F did they change the eye color? I don't get it, he has blue eyes in MGS4 aswell, so I can't see why they did it. =/

[C L O U D]

Very interesting theory.

[capn_crunch]

Why is this on the front page?

[tdinc]

I call this game the "Bastard Child" of Kojima's Metal Gear Series. simply because its multi-plat. This is "NOT" a true MG........... Only authentic Metal Gear comes from SONY...

[Heartnet]

It wont look any different since They are Developing it on Ps3 first the porting to 360 so they will be identicle if not a minicsule bit better on PS3..

You fools do research before dissing games..