all us PS3 fans who have been raked through the coals deserve to say "I told you so" to all the xbots out there. Anyone seen "TheMart"?? I think he left the planet after E3...lmao
When will you Sony fans realize that there was nothing spectacular about killzone 2! LBp and Uncharted are great looking games but there's no reason to think that PS3 is all of the sudden this impressive machine with tons of next gen games! It seems as if Sony and it's fans are trying to call victory when in reality everybody was a winner at this years E3!
Phantom is coming back with a vengeance, its called "Phantom Vaporware" and with a killer exclusive: Duke Nukem Neverever. Its all doom doom for all you bots.
I've noticed a trend...PS3 fanboys that post stupid or intelligent comments tend to receive a greater number of "agrees" than "disagrees." On the other hand, Xbox 360 fanboys receive the opposite and their feedback is higher...Hmmm, I wonder if Xbox fanboys have given up arguing with Sony fanbots? It's hard to argue with someone that doesn't listen after all:-P
I've been around, but too bad not as much. I've been posting afterwards what I thought about E3, MS, Sony and Nintendo.
If you had watched closely you would have read it.
MS didn't have any surprises, but their show was about the strongest line up for any console in one year EVER. And that's the truth. They only talked about games right here, right now.
But still I was underwhelmed. I had expected MGS4 tattoo on Moore's arm. I'm pretty sure it'll still be there, well not the tattoo on more, but MGS4 will. As will FFXIII. Both on 360 in 2008. Mark my words.
Sony's press conference was still underwhelming, although you fanboys are pleased easily. Yeah it was better then last year, but it couldn't be any worse then that...
RRRRIIDGGGEEEE RRRRRAACCEERRRRRR and that Giant Enemy Crab. Or was it crap.
Anyhow. This year. What did Sony showed us? Dark stuff of KZ2, with less colours then Gears of War. I thought you PS3 fandroids said Gears was washed out? So whats this? Games in Black & White?
Really. COD4 footage was more impressive then that. It was allright, but that's about it. Gears looks better, feels better. Plus, Christmas 2008, Gears of War II will be out on 360 exclusive. Killing KZ2
The rest of Sony show? Old trailers, missing out on GTAIV, no onstage 3rd party support (MS had COD4 demo, and MP demo exclusive on XBL MP, Assassins Creed etc.).
Sony even doesn't have any real 3rd party exclusives at all. MS has.
If you look closely, the Sony press show wasn't all that. I know you fanboys want to see it as a big victory, but really it isn't.
And still: we've have to see the real games on the PS3 still. I want them in the shops. I want to be able to play them.
I'll be at the Leipzig Games Convention. I'll be playing 360 demo's and PS3 demo's. They have a change to prove themselves there.
Thus no. Mart is still here. I still feel Sony won't live up to their promisses. And we'll know the next months. @ homo still is [email protected] with a guy doing a girly dance
Haze, UT3, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Socom, Singstar, Gran Turismo 5 vs. Halo, mass effect, bioshock, and PGR4. LOL. Microsoft's exclusive lineup is crap compared to Sony's and Killzone 2 PWNED.
Yeah and for your information, MGS4 is NOT going to 360. Where's Peter Moore? His ass is at EA developing games for PS3 ROFL. Konami has a partnership with Sony for MGS4 exclusitivity according to Jack Tretton.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it' Stupid Xbot.
@XBOX360rocks
do your reseach N00B. GT5 prolouge and Socom are THIS YEAR. Rock band timed exclusive? Your on crack man. You guys will have to wait a year to get a crappy port of HAZE, and your UT3 won't have PC mods LOL, cause your $50/year XBL IS A CLOSED SERVICE! While my FREE PSN is an OPEN SERVICE. All the other games are crap. Blue dragon? LOL! Viva Pinata Party Animals? LMAO! Splinter cell? Ok that one is good.
And FYI you can't afford both consoles...If you did you wouldn't spend all your time on N4G bashing one of them..
aa you dipsh!t GT is 2008 and Socom I'm pretty sure, UT and Haze are timed, you didn't even mention the two biggest games Lair and HS and than you shafted the Microsoft lineup by forgetting games like Splinter Cell, Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon. Plus Rock Band is a timed exclusive to the 360. Plus GTA IV, Guitar Hero, Assassin's Creed and COD4 are on both systems. Oh and in case you weren't paying attention GTA IV, Guitar Hero, and AC were all stolen away from Playstation. Figured I would point that out...but i'll be playing both systems so see unlike you I could care less about line-ups, just idiots who don't know what their talking about.
edit:: @ AA your still a dipsh!t. I was making a simple point that you DON'T know what your talking about... and the only person that quote " And FYI you can't afford both consoles...If you did you wouldn't spend all your time on N4G bashing one of them.." applies to is you...read my comments you idiot, I like my Xbox more, yes, but I don't bash the PS3 ever, I have it right next to my xbox and I comment on all the games constantly.
KZ2 endured 2 years of crap from people like you and when it finally shows up, it not only delivers but exceeds peoples expectations and you still cant give it the credit it deserves. Theres no point trying to convince you since you've made up your mind long ago so stop acting like you're waiting to be impressed.
And Peter Moores probably got a Madden Tattoo by now so why dont you get a MGS one if you want it so bad, or better yet get a PS3. No you cant do that, because it had some game with a giant crab right?
And I wouldn't call Guitar Hero "stolen." The first game was a huge risk, attempting to break through a genre that isn't a huge seller, and requiring a peripheral, which is usually the death note for a game. PS2, with it's low cost of entry and huge market, was the the sensible choice to start things off with. Once the game got popular, they expanded platform (i.e., after the first game). I wouldn't call that exclusivity being lost by any means. That's the whole reason PS2 had a lot of its quirkier games; it was the safest platform to introduce a new IP upon.
I personally liked Sony's conference, but heck, it was the only one I watched. I don't own a Wii or 360, and it's not like I sit around keeping tabs on what they do. I'm excited about what I'll be bringing home this fall: Lair, Uncharted, HS, Assassin's, Ratchet, GH3, and Rock Band. I'm excited about downloadable titles like Warhawk, LBP, Everyday Shooter, and Echochrome. I'm really happy about the partnering up with Quantic Dreams. I'm excited to hear more about the media download content coming soon. And I was impressed with how close they got with that KZ trailer; they had to use pure conjecture 2 years ago as to where they'd be now with the game nearing completion; that can't be easy, especially not with a new system and engine. And they still have many games left to show this year (I want to see 8 Days!)
I ended my viewing of the conference feeling re-assured about the quality of my purchase; which made it an excellent show, in my eyes.
(finally get to see 300 in 11 days! :D Hooray for hi-def movies!)
@ The MART .. yeah dude, and that's why everbodys watching Sony these days.
i don't think the 360 is bad but i've lost interest. besides halo 3 and some other shooters there's really not much to play and i can play some shooters on the ps3 if i want to.
it's the diversity of games that i like about Sonys Playstation.
as i said a few weeks ago, i always bashed the playstation and it's games but now i have to say: "my eyes are open". that doesn't mean that i don't wanna play halo 3 and alan wake cause these titles look promising but for me the ps3 is the better choice with it's exclusives this year.
it would be nice if people start talking about games and the experiences they had with these .... cause when Killzone 2 gets a 10/10 from every single gamesite in 2008, why would people not wanna play this game? just because they hate Sony so much?
@TheMART ... Gears of War is a really good game - bit too short on the single player side - but really good. but even this game got a 8/10 from some sites like eurogamer. not everybody has the same opionion and interest like you and i think this is good.
Bubble for a good comment. No I messed up I remembered seeing "Rock Band a timed exclusive" story last week sometime and I never read it so I guess I let myself think it was a 360 exclusive, lol. My only point by adding in Guitar Hero was because GH is a huge party game that the original xbox never had so it's good for Microsoft that they got it for the 360, as it's a cult thing now. I didn't watch any of the shows, I just read the news when I got the chance because I was so busy...but I am happy about what I'll be bringing home also: Bioshock, Lair, Halo 3, GTA IV, COD 4, Mass Effect, UT3, Haze, HS, Uncharted, PGR4, Splinter cell...lol well maybe not all of them cause i'll have no time but those are the ones I want...
You never seem to let me down. Everytime I see you're stupid name in these threads, I know I'm in for something completely moronic and unintelligible. You can go ahead and wait, and wait, but you will never, ever see MGS4 or FF13, so just give it up and go play your zune you b!tch.
My above post got 14 agrees and 1 disagree and yet I wake up this morning and I've lost another bubble.
It just goes to show 14 people can read your post and think, "fair enough, I'd go along with that," but it only take someone spiteful to come along (probably Mart himself) and say "really, is that your opinion? Well you can lose a bubble for it."
To these people, freedom of speach, apparently only applies when they have something to say.
I've said it once and I'll say it again. The PS3 has nothing to brag about. The Xbox has nothing to prove. Xbox sales are way more than the ps3 sales, the online service for the ps3 well sucks to be quite frank, (so bad they are bringing home into the picture to redeem themselves), the amount of games suck for the ps3, ( and please dont tell me the list of games they have comeing out) let me state something. the games they have out for the ps3 suck soooooooooo bad that the any list of decent games for the system is going to look good at this point. Now, the ps3 is'nt all bad it does come with a blue ray player which is nice but what if it flops? and before you say that it wont, dont only look at the U.S. side of the house. HD DVD is actually in the lead in just about every other country except Japan. So 2 countries while the HD DVD is in the lead in All of Europe, and the country's south of that region. Now another thing the ps3 has on the xbox is that well ummmmmmmmmmmmm. Well, It has MGS4 comeing to it. Oh wait UT3, oh thats it. It has a decent game or two comeing to it. Something Xbox 360 has already and are still comeing out with them. So please any ps3 fanboy that wants to compare, please, please, please show me something that hasn't been brought up yet, and lets talk, meenwhile have fun with the few good things that this company is actually doing. oh and by the way the amount of processing powere does'nt meen crap when it doesn't utilize it. oh and by the way games are only useing about 6-7 or less gigs of space to use. so blue ray is useless. They just did it for the fact their harder to copy and get throught the security in each blue ray. Thats the real reason they went with it. Not for the gamer but form them selves. Thanks!!!!
I don't see why someone who owns a console cannot give props to another console and its games. And if you want a reply to your rant, do note Leshin's post.
First off, how can you call someone a fanboy with a comment like that ( yeah that's smart). Second, I read on this very site an article about ps3 outselling xbox 360 for a while now, it had just slipped under the radar. The funniest part is that very story didn't get approved ( looks like "some" people didn't want other people to read it).
'til' next time.
Edit: @3.1 I guess we were thinking the same thing
And I have only one? this is a very fair site. how about this. I make 50 screen names under 50 e-mail accounts and log in with each one to add bubbles to my own account?
I think you have to be one of the BIGGEST fanboys on earth.
KZ2 and Halo have different art directions. If you want to compare games then compare it to Gears which have the same art direction.
Also, How is KZ2 the best FPS ever? The first one was average. Now people can argue that the HALO series is the best FPS because the have proven themselves. Then again there are other such as Half-life2.
original seed, the first halo...meh to me it was ok...but that is my opinion..now the second halo only thing "good" people say it did was multiplayer i heard the story sucked(left you in a cliffhanger?) but to me the best fps would be half-life2, and counter-strike 1.5(not 1.6 or source)
It's funny how most figureheads in the industry have said that Sony's had the best E3 presence. It did, get over it and move on.
Also, please stop this "Metal Gear Solid 4 will come on the 360" nonsense. It's not, even Peter bloody Moore said it himself. Move on and talk about other games! @The Mart: You're either blind or stupid if you STILL believe this. Your comment about Gears of War 2 is actually pretty funny as I don't think it has ever been officially announced yet.
As for HD-DVD, I think EVERYONE knows that it won't even have a foothold in the war unless more studios come to it's corner.
But the one thing that I find really funny is this talk about that Sony hasn't got a good lineup. You seem to forget an important thing: Most of the 360's lineup are MULTI-PLATFORM. Do you know what that means? Yes, The Mart, it means it's also coming out on the PS3. Using COD4 as an argument case just seems retarded if it's also out on the PS3.
Actually, The Mart, how many big third party "exclusives" are coming out for the 360 again?
GTA4? COD4? Assassins Creed? Rockband? Resident Evil 5? Unreal Tournament 3? Madden NFL 08? All Pro Football 2K8? DMC4?
Oh yeah, thats right.....they're all coming out on the PS3 as well! So what is it exactly Sony is missing? This generation won't be won with third party exclusives as most thing are going multiplatform. It's going to be won by 1st party titles and Sony has the most 1st part titles in development, whether of course they are all good remains to be seen.
Bioshock Mass Effect Halo 3 PGR4
These are 360 "exclusives" out this year
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Heavenly Sword Uncharted Lair Ratchet and Clank Warhawk
These are PS3 "exclusives" out this year.
If you are going to mouth off, at least get some proper facts.
"Actually, The Mart, how many big third party "exclusives" are coming out for the 360 again?"
I'll answer that one instead of The Mart:
BioShock Splinter Cell: Conviction Naruto: Rise of a Ninja Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation MotoGP '07 Eternal Sonata Beautiful Katamari (the Wii version is scheduled for 2008)
Those are the big ones for this year, but there are also some smaller ones like:
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2 World in Conflict FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Elements Culdcept Saga Left 4 Dead Kengo: Legend of the 9 Two Worlds Fatal Inertia (the PS3 version coming, but not this year)
Then there are those that are not exclusives, but they're coming to the Xbox 360 and not coming to the PS3:
The Bee Movie Game Crash of the Titans Looney Tunes: Acme Arsenal Tomb Raider: Anniversary
Finally, some first party exclusives you missed:
Blue Dragon Lost Odyssey Viva Pinata Party Animals Scene It!
You might not think much of some of them, especially certain titles aimed at kids and casual gamers, but they all have their audience and some even have the potential of becoming big sellers thanks to their licenses and the fact that casual gamers fall for licensed crap.
@insane cobra: you mentioned "Scene it"? are you crazy? lol
I purposely did not mention any "timed exclusives" like you did with Fatal Inertia because I could just say:
Unreal Tournament 3 (with mods) Haze
and noticed I also said "Big" exclusives. Even Xbox fans wouldn't say that: Naruto Ace Combat 6 Beautiful Katamari Kengo ...... as "Big titles" especially when compared to the ones that I mentioned. Having a lot of titles and having a lot of "good" titles are two different things.
The list of games you mentioned that are "not coming to the PS3"...you do know that these titles are coming out for the PSP AND the PS2 and from what I remember, PS2 titles can also be played on the PS3, which is probably the reason why they're aren't going to make 2 versions of the same game.
The above sentence raises a very important fact you have to remember. Since they are still making PS2 games (140 they said are still coming out on it I believe) every single on of them can be played on the PS3.
actually I would say Ace Combat is a big title. The big games I see are: Halo 3, Splinter Cell, MotoGP, PGR4, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Lost Oddysey, Eternal Sonata...and the last three I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole...but seriously both of you, the titles we're all mentioning intrigue different gamers, whether you think their good/bad or interesting doesn't matter. I won't buy Blue Dragon, but it won't stop millions of other gamers from buying it. Leshin you won't buy Halo 3, but I will and we'll both buy Lair and HS. It's all personal preference, a strong line-up is in the eye of the beholder. It's why having two consoles is so nice.
"@insane cobra: you mentioned "Scene it"? are you crazy? lol"
No, I'm dead serious.
"I purposely did not mention any "timed exclusives" like you did with Fatal Inertia because I could just say:
Unreal Tournament 3 (with mods) Haze"
You certainly could. I'm not saying there are no interesting PS3 exclusives coming out in the following months, I'm just opposing your claims that there are very few interesting Xbox 360 exclusives being released in the same period.
"and noticed I also said "Big" exclusives. Even Xbox fans wouldn't say that: Naruto Ace Combat 6 Beautiful Katamari Kengo ...... as "Big titles" especially when compared to the ones that I mentioned. Having a lot of titles and having a lot of "good" titles are two different things."
Yes, I would definitely argue that Naruto, Ace Combat and Katamari are rather big franchises. I also wanted to put DDR on that list, but opted against it, even though now I think I should have. I never said Kengo was a big title, however.
Also, we have no idea how many fresh IPs will turn out big.
"The list of games you mentioned that are "not coming to the PS3"...you do know that these titles are coming out for the PSP AND the PS2 and from what I remember, PS2 titles can also be played on the PS3, which is probably the reason why they're aren't going to make 2 versions of the same game."
There are no guarantees that those games will be playable on new PS3 systems, the ones without PS2 emulation hardware. Also, you can't really compare upscaled versions of PS2 games with native Xbox 360 titles, even if they turn out really weak ports. Even in the worst case scenario, Xbox 360 versions will offer Live support, if not many other enhancements. Finally, many casual consumers won't even know they can play PS2 versions of those games on their PS3s (again, providing they'll work on new PS3s at all).
"The above sentence raises a very important fact you have to remember. Since they are still making PS2 games (140 they said are still coming out on it I believe) every single on of them can be played on the PS3."
I just answered that one, but I'll repeat - that makes very little difference to most people. Besides, PS2 is what, $100? That's a price of two PS2 games.
i dont know y but this guy just comes off as a slime ball to me he was such a scared puzzy at the sony conference and then off stage he turns into some O G gangster talking bad about otha consoles
Jack was pushed a little and im sure you can ALL see that. Everybody knew sony was getting a whole load of stick, some fair some unfair. Im not suprised he gave a little 'up ya bum' to the naysayers and doubt lovers. The freight train is gaining momentum.
Actually i think he brought a level of humility to the Sony press confrence. His clear signs of nervousness while addressing a hugh crowd give them a more humble face. As opposed to the Sony is arrogant stigma that the media and many gamers painted them with.
He's now a bit more confident like any human being would've been after having a successful showing at one of the most important trade show of the year.
However this is just my opinion, clearly yours differs for reasons am not sure.
I would take Alan Wake and Banjo 3 over any PS3 game you mentioned in a heart beat! SOny's line up isn't impressive so I don't get your point seriously!
Actually, both consoles have an impressive line-up. Some people like FPS's, some don't. Some people like Adventure games, some don't. It's all a matter of taste.
are you serious sniper? Did you seriously just try to downplay Alan Wake? Have you seen that game? It's gorgeous...plus it's storyline looks to be fabulous. Plus it's from a fantastic developer, the one's who make Max Payne? correct me if I'm wrong...and Banjo is a good game as well, but I am waiting for R&C, god is it going to be sick!!
There are 15 exclusive title's by the end of fall for PS3, they've only shown about 9 of them people are speculating that The Getaway and 8 days are much further along than were told and we should see them at the European confrence Leipzig...
Everytime there's a video showing how SONY presentation dominated and how exited we all should be, he comes out of his hole and starts justifying the poor/mediocre 360 presentation.
Funny how fanboys are.. Fanboys like MART were nervously waiting for a 360 mega presentation, with lots of first party upcoming exclusives and with more PAYED third party exclusives, but they couldn't do it.. SONY did exactly what 360 fanboys were expecting from the MS presentation...
OHH and I forgot... they were waiting (SPECIALLY MART) for the MSG4 announcement, but guess what?? It didn't happened sry MART I know that pretty much fu*ked the show for you..
Now the only thing they have left to do is justify ALL THE CRAP they been writing this past months by saying.. MS only wanted to show this year lineup, that was the strategy. They know what fans want etc. etc.
Um...not to stickup for themart or anything but the first comment on this page was aimed at him, so he made his usual comment to keep all of you busy and bickering for awhile. It's really funny how under your skin he gets, I laugh at it, even if I agree with you guys that he says some pretty idiotic sh!t. But even if he is a MASSIVE fanboy atleast he does it in a respecful, logical(to him) way and he does so with grammar skills. I'd rather read his comment than "MAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MICROSHAFT IS SO GAY!!!! XBOTS ARE FUC*ED BY THE 3FIXME HAHAHAAHAHAHA STUPID BILL IS PROBABLY CRYING RIGHT NOW HAHAHAHAHA RROD FOR LIFE!!! DREAMCAST!!! AHAHAAHA I'M A FUC*ING IDIOT" k hope you get my point...
Yea, Sony completely owned E3. They not only had an incredible 07 lineup. MGS4 WAS CONFIRMED EXCLUSIVE YET AGAIN!!! And there were a few surprises thrown in there as well along with a sneak peak to some killer 08 titles. Way to go Sony!
you are right MS in thier press conference was mostly showing 3rd party games (MULTI-PLATFORM)...yes MULTI-PLATFORM and they waste about 10-15 minuts of thier confernce for halo3 like it,s the best game in the world(it,s a great game but MS hype it so much)they should give a chance to the other titels better than wasting 10-15 minuts in halo.
they even give a standard for gaming..(maden08,gtaIV,Halo3). and in their line for RPG,s they mentioned bluedragon,mass effect,lost odysse)and forgeting eternal sonatra.
maybe they were throwing all thier cards. and hey ps3,x360 fans correct me if iam wrong.
AND one more thing THE MART is the worst fanboy out there he is completly ignorant.
Your absolutely right with your comment ".. please show me a good list of 360 games in the first year." Their were about the same amount as the PS3 so far, but the PS3 has the stronger fall line-up for it's 1st year, Xbox really only had GOW as everything else was delayed...
I think sony had a great show as well. They showed everyone where the games are at and gave us the price cut. I will defiantly get a PS3 this year. Now back on topic. I was very disappointed with KZ2 and I think you are a fanboy if you weren't. I was promised that the game would look like the video from 2005 but I see it hasn't happened yet. The video was dark but still full of color at the same time and you could also see far off in the distance. You couldn't do so with the actual in game footage. I think Jack has a long way to go before he can say I told you so. And if you disagree, go look at the video and the game because I just did and it's the truth, the video from 2005 was way better.
Timmy
I don't where you got those pics from but I have seen the in game trailer like a hundred times and still can't see that far off into the city. The pics look good and after looking at them I don't know what trailer I have been watching because all I see in the distance is black sky and lightning. I hope the game does look good and plays well.
Its all fvcking flame wars. I dont give a damn, but two points,
Sony deserved their sh!t for what they did, CG is still disgusting, Motorstorm and Killzone look great and Motorstorm is a lot of fun but they are not like the CG trailers shown for them. Last year Sony cr*pped itself: "Children will work with more than one job for PS3", "RIIIDGE RACER", "Based on the real history of Japan ..... battling a Giant fvcking enemy crab ....".
This year Microsoft too deserves the sh!t they have been getting. Its very simple: RRODs. They make you sink in despair. Their E3 was bland, they could have shown more about Halo 3 than stupid statistics, they could have shown a new GTA trailer. But they left it uninteresting.
critical on the xbox360 and the playstation3 but i really don't think ppl are still thinking about Kaz Hirai's ridge racer or that Genji quote anymore in the big picture.
true most people dont care about those mistakes anymore, but for last year Sony deserved what they got. The negative press was good for them, they did much better this year. Its going to be much harder for MS to solve RROD in comparison. Still, both consoles have a lot of good games coming for them and while flame wars are not all bad, it has gone crazy in N4G
The entire website is polluted with people's personal vendetta's that run on and on. Ironically, nothing about these comments actually relates to what we've seen in the Interview.
Says it all.
People need to grow up. Having decent mature conversations about gaming is so much more satisfying; it's why we're eager to watch Interviews like this. There are no fanboys in it!
to busy playing oblivion the e3 press confrences sony- rocked microsoft's- was ok and last and the least nintendo- it sucked so bad bored the krap out of me omg was it awful
I feel like you get bubble raped for JUST voicing your opinion. Its good to DISAGREE. Because if someone disagreed with supported fact, then my opinion can be changed. Key word...FACT....Not BASHING. SONY and M$ or both going to trade places in the spot light. These two companies are leaders in their respective industry so this is to be expected. @19 your comedy rulz.
oh and killzone looked good, not as good as the ' 05 trailer though. Call of Duty 4 looked the best.
EDIT: @lowtax=WOW thats possibly the most RETARDED f*cking thing I ever heard. GTFO noob, wtf do you have? Oh thats right...sh*t. Go play motorstorm for the 1000th time today.
EDIT: @infamouskilla99= Your ebonics is makin my eyes hurt. Learn to type/spell.
Those games are mediocre, you saw a returning sequel to all of those games because that's the nature of those games. And FFXI was terrible, and was out for the pc for like.......God I was a Sophmore in Highschool when that game hit the PC? :l
Oblivion was amazing.
This is appropriate on the other hand. Jack Trenton is only making a response to comments via Moore's mouth. He has said nothing inappropriate, he hasn't bashed Microsoft because it's valid competition; something I think Peter Moore failed to realize with Sony and payed dearly for it.
omg kid talkin crap about ps3 again shees dun u get it???xbox is dead ps3 is gonna win simple as that , but please dun post crap juss so u feel better about ux 360 dying on u lmaoooo , ps3 owns 360 n yeah killzone 2 kicked she crap out of halo 3 n gears of war, dude u must use glasses 2 not see how killzone 2 looks so unreal , lol so yeah there
all becuase jack belives that SONY and GG delivered on KZ2? which most people will agree it looks great.....
why flame each other? and try to match up exclusive titles? if your excited for bioshock or mass effect, great hope your happy with your 360, Im glad I got a PS3 and cant wait to play heavenly sword myself.
I always read this comments and realized that xbox fans are defensive knowing that MS has built a bad system. Bill Gates himself can announce that shareholders are pulling the plug on the gaming division (which they will) and xbox fans still be in denial...All signs point to it and when i list them xbox fans always have to justify the xbox system... Signs to shareholders pulling the plug: 1. NO PROFIT and NOTHING BUT LOSS 2. BAD IMAGE ON THE XBOX BRAND NOW WITH DEFAULTY SYSTEMS 3. 360 sales on same pace of original xbox 4. Sales of 360 have hit it's peak..and yes even with halo coming out (cause most people who plan on getting halo already have a 360) 5. Robbie Bach selling stocks (although it had no affect, it's a sign) 6. Peter Moore departure 7. the PS3 hasn't hit it's peak (which probably be mid 2008) 8. Don Mattrix a software guy (maybe MS is going to stick at what they do best which is software) 9. E3 showing of NOTHING for the future (cause there is nothing for the xbox future...they're "all in" for this holiday) 10. it's a what have you done for me lately business...and they haven't done anything in the past who knows how many years...90% of shareholders have and are asking for MS to pull the plug on this thing...i know some of the above may seem to be "conspiracies" or however you want to put it...most of them are facts ! Peter Moore himself is a sports guy and needs to look at this the same way... You guys can be in denial all you want but I will go on record to say MS is going to pull the plug on the xbox division ! I understand xbox fans getting defensive but cheez this is getting to sickening..you guys need to get out more often and not cling onto a freaking gaming machine like it's your first car... Accept it ! Those who invested so much in the xbox machine im sorry...i totally understand...i am a huge sports fan...but if my football team invested so much in a QB that hasn't performed...i'd say cut my losses and move on. This Xbox has been a disaster...it's been like Vince Mcmahon trying to start a Football League (XFL)...he was smart !
If people think Killzone2 07 demo lives up to the hype and trailer then they are seriously daft.Still time to go on it of course but it's way short of the gorgeous 05 trailer and they wouldn't have shown their game in a rubbish state quite honestly because they were on a mission to prove something here.
Go ahead now and throw some disagrees my way just to prove my point that you have fallen for sony's spin.
-I sent mart a PM, but I doubt he'll share it with everyone else, so I'm posting it in every thread where me makes a f***ing stupid comment about MGS4:
GI: Is Metal Gear Solid 4 still exclusive? Is that solidified and will ~~~~NEVER!!!!~~~~ appear on the Xbox 360?
Harrison: ~~~~Yes.~~~~ We said it was an exclusive title.
POSTED: 7/19/2007 7:20 PM
As if that wasn't enough, Kojima and Tretton both said it was exclusive LIVE on stage, and Kojima already said MGS4 can only be done on PS3, but don't bother arguing. He knows better than you, and it doesn't matter that it *COULD*, it matters that it WILL NEVER COME TO 360.
So guys, like he said, mark his words and make a fool of him every chance you get. That's the price for opening your [email protected]$$ mouth Mart.
all us PS3 fans who have been raked through the coals deserve to say "I told you so" to all the xbots out there. Anyone seen "TheMart"?? I think he left the planet after E3...lmao
Too bad dude.
I've been around, but too bad not as much. I've been posting afterwards what I thought about E3, MS, Sony and Nintendo.
If you had watched closely you would have read it.
MS didn't have any surprises, but their show was about the strongest line up for any console in one year EVER. And that's the truth. They only talked about games right here, right now.
But still I was underwhelmed. I had expected MGS4 tattoo on Moore's arm. I'm pretty sure it'll still be there, well not the tattoo on more, but MGS4 will. As will FFXIII. Both on 360 in 2008. Mark my words.
Sony's press conference was still underwhelming, although you fanboys are pleased easily. Yeah it was better then last year, but it couldn't be any worse then that...
RRRRIIDGGGEEEE RRRRRAACCEERRRRRR and that Giant Enemy Crab. Or was it crap.
Anyhow. This year. What did Sony showed us? Dark stuff of KZ2, with less colours then Gears of War. I thought you PS3 fandroids said Gears was washed out? So whats this? Games in Black & White?
Really. COD4 footage was more impressive then that. It was allright, but that's about it. Gears looks better, feels better. Plus, Christmas 2008, Gears of War II will be out on 360 exclusive. Killing KZ2
The rest of Sony show? Old trailers, missing out on GTAIV, no onstage 3rd party support (MS had COD4 demo, and MP demo exclusive on XBL MP, Assassins Creed etc.).
Sony even doesn't have any real 3rd party exclusives at all. MS has.
If you look closely, the Sony press show wasn't all that. I know you fanboys want to see it as a big victory, but really it isn't.
And still: we've have to see the real games on the PS3 still. I want them in the shops. I want to be able to play them.
I'll be at the Leipzig Games Convention. I'll be playing 360 demo's and PS3 demo's. They have a change to prove themselves there.
Thus no. Mart is still here. I still feel Sony won't live up to their promisses. And we'll know the next months. @ homo still is [email protected] with a guy doing a girly dance
I've said it once and I'll say it again. The PS3 has nothing to brag about. The Xbox has nothing to prove. Xbox sales are way more than the ps3 sales, the online service for the ps3 well sucks to be quite frank, (so bad they are bringing home into the picture to redeem themselves), the amount of games suck for the ps3, ( and please dont tell me the list of games they have comeing out) let me state something. the games they have out for the ps3 suck soooooooooo bad that the any list of decent games for the system is going to look good at this point. Now, the ps3 is'nt all bad it does come with a blue ray player which is nice but what if it flops? and before you say that it wont, dont only look at the U.S. side of the house. HD DVD is actually in the lead in just about every other country except Japan. So 2 countries while the HD DVD is in the lead in All of Europe, and the country's south of that region. Now another thing the ps3 has on the xbox is that well ummmmmmmmmmmmm. Well, It has MGS4 comeing to it. Oh wait UT3, oh thats it. It has a decent game or two comeing to it. Something Xbox 360 has already and are still comeing out with them. So please any ps3 fanboy that wants to compare, please, please, please show me something that hasn't been brought up yet, and lets talk, meenwhile have fun with the few good things that this company is actually doing. oh and by the way the amount of processing powere does'nt meen crap when it doesn't utilize it. oh and by the way games are only useing about 6-7 or less gigs of space to use. so blue ray is useless. They just did it for the fact their harder to copy and get throught the security in each blue ray. Thats the real reason they went with it. Not for the gamer but form them selves. Thanks!!!!
But, uh, they didn't match the E3 05 trailer, pretty much every preview agrees with that. It still looks fantastic, of course, but this isn't it.
But not far from the truth. Good Job Sony. Now if they can only nail that "landing on the sun thing". hehe