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Microsoft forced Bungie to accept 'Combat Evolved' name

CVG: Bungie has revealed that Microsoft marketeers forced it to put the infamous 'Combat Evolved' tagline on its original Halo - something the studio said it "hated".

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DelbertGrady5490d ago

"The compromise was they could add a subtitle. Everyone at Bungie hated it. But it turned out to be a very sticky label and has now entered the gaming lexicon to the point where articles that have nothing to do with Halo get titles like 'Skateboarding Evolved'. So I guess in hindsight it was a good compromise."

Then came Halo 2 and Halo 3. I'm more confused over the subtitle in Halo: Reach, although it's built on a novel that came out before the game was produced.

Double Toasted5489d ago

Are these guys complaining? Nah, they couldn't be...

MisterNiwa5489d ago

They get paid to not complain.

Sm0k3y_Bac0n5489d ago

Yep, Halo brought the FPS on quite a bit and was one of the best games of its time.

IdleLeeSiuLung5489d ago

This just goes to show that not every decision a GREAT game studio does makes sense. The "Combat Evolved" part is iconic to Halo.

The first time I heard Halo, I wasn't sure what to expect. I didn't even know what the Halo part meant for the longest time. It's a one non-descriptive word...

Hideo_Kojima5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

One thing I hated about Halo 1...

You buy the game called
Halo: Combat Evolved...
and you can than download the a mod friendly version called
Halo: Custom Edition....

So when people said Halo:CE I was always confused as to which version they referred to.

Edit: This is what I mean

Read PS360_37 comment bellow he says
"Halo:CE completely revolutionized CONSOLE shooter"

Is that Halo: Combat Evolved
or is it Halo:Custom Edition

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Inside_out5489d ago

Halo: Combat Evolved was ingenius...They can call there RPG whatever name they want....Halo put them on the map....no pressure....COD: Modern warefare....it works and is as old as gaming itself...

Noble Spartan5489d ago

It really was combat evolved.

Revolutionized the industry.

Heisenberg5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

replied to the wrong comment.

Downtown boogey5489d ago

This comment by Conloles has more disagrees than agrees: What the hell?
Everyone who's played it would agree as would the critics, so what's the matter?

SOAD5489d ago

People disagree with him because he trolls other threads, not because of what he's saying with that particular post.

N4BmpS5489d ago

Basically that's what he does. He has no life is all. But regardless I think epic is an over used term some people don't even know what the proper definition is. Not saying Halo is isn't an Epic.

Shepherd 2145489d ago

People use the term "epic" if a movie, game or book is set on a grand scale, which is typically a huge characteristic of an Epic.

The Iliad and the Odyssey, Beowulf, the story of Troy, all of them are Epics because of the type of adventure or stories that they tell. Movies and games have become attached to that form of story-telling with updated settings and themes, but using the term "Epic" when describing "Spider-man 2, Halo, The Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc., isnt entirely inaccurate.

Heisenberg5489d ago

Not necessarily about this guy in particular, but if you troll hard enough, people stop giving a shît about what you have to say. Why should you be able to troll tons of threads, and be a general douche, then when you wanna make a positive post every now and then about something YOU like, we should all listen and judge the comment on its own merits... No, you can't have your cake and eat it too. The same guys who troll want to be treated fairly and listened to? Then stop trolling others. And there's a difference between having an opinion, and trolling.

cayal5489d ago

"Everyone who's played it would agree as would the critics, so what's the matter?"

I don't think Halo is epic and I've played it.

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Leio5489d ago

Halo Combat Evolved was the reason i bought my Xbox.. loved that game

DaTruth5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

They should have complained about the Halo part! It is just stupid to call the game Halo and have 10 haloless sequels and prequels!

Death5489d ago

This "Halo" weapon was used to wipe out all sentient life forms. The Covenant were trying to fire the weapon and the UNSC were trying to stop it. The Halo technology still exists after the first game even though combat isn't taking place exclusively on one of the rings. It's actually a pretty good story which is suplemented by quite a few books now.

-Death

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Cold 20005490d ago

"Halo: Combat Evolved" sounds a whole lot cooler than just "Halo"

TROLL EATER5489d ago

combat evolved sounded fitting it did evolve FPS

yewles15489d ago

Valve fans would like to have a word with you...

Ultraplayerxd5489d ago

I agree. .but I'd rather just say Halo.

telekineticmantis5489d ago

Taking from games like unreal tournament and half life doesnt evolve the genre it dilutes it

PS360_375489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

because UT and HL were both amazing console shooters....

Halo:CE completely revolutionized CONSOLE shooter.

Does it have to be spelled out for you to understand.

Shepherd 2145489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

goldeneye had poop controls

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ZombieNinjaPanda5489d ago

So, not sure if some of you don't realize it, but Combat Evolved was meant to signify the fact that they all use advanced weaponry and future stuff etc etc blah blah.

Godmars2905490d ago

I never think, "Combat Evolved" when I think of Halo. I think of the Ring World novels.

BeaArthur5489d ago

Well it is their IP, I guess they can do whatever they want.

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Halo: Combat Evolved Remake reportedly planned to release in late 2026

Xbox Game Studios' Halo: Combat Evolved Remake is reportedly planned to release in late 2026 to celebrate 25 years of Xbox.

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Goodguy013d ago

Dear God it's been 4 years since infinite and no official update on anything lol.

Tacoboto3d ago

No official update on anything?

They replaced studio leadership
They changed the studio name
They announced the change to UE5
... all while supporting Infinite

The support to Infinite isn't what it originally should have been but they've still been providing tons of official updates over the years, and as recently as two months ago added a brand new weapon.

GamerRN2d ago

I think remaking Halo Combat Evolved, and going to 2 and 3 again, will help give the studio an idea of how to make a Halo game feel like Halo again

Tacoboto2d ago

Infinite did feel like Halo, that's not what the complaints were...

The complaints were almost literally everything else. Monetization, netcode and desync, the campaign structure, story, and single biome, the weaker-than-expected post-launch content.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

Gotta agree. Infinite felt like halo.

Profchaos3d ago

Dev times in modern days 4 years of silence isn't unheard of when things are running smoothly.

And around 6 months ago 343 did show a tech demo of ue5 using halo assets so it's not radio silence.

Given all the shake ups i am more surprised we're getting anything next year at all.

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They coulda started with Halo 3 remake ... I know Halo CE remaster was not proper with the art style but still, remaking after a remaster seems dull, when Halo 3 and Reach have started to show some age.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Yeah I hate they used Halo reach artstyle. Hope this remake feel authentic yet fresh

--Onilink--3d ago

Probably the simplest to work around with. They are reportedly doing it in UE5, so its just as much an Anniversary thing, as its probably the studio getting familiar and setting up their tools and processes in the engine with an actual game, to facilitate the development of the next Halo

Profchaos3d ago

I'm guessing combat evolved has a smaller scope in general the later half of the game features a ton of backtracking and reused assets making it a easier game to remake on a deadline

Its also a better choice if this is the first game to be multiplatform mind you I think it's pretty much a given that anyone with a passing curiosity has played this by now in some way be it pc or brought a used console for a few bucks

darthv723d ago

This will likely come to PS5 at the same time. 25 years of XB.... shared with PS.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

It´s gonna be among best sellers on PS Store next year regardless.

raWfodog2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love to see Lost Odyssey come over to PS5. I would definitely buy that again. That was the first game that I played on my 360. Loved the story and battle system. One of the best JRPGs of all time in my opinion.

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"Everything Happening To Bungie Is Because of Greed" -ex-employees

Ex- employees Hope Studio Gets "Consolidated Into Sony"

Former Bungie employees speak out in a new report, blaming greed and leadership for the studio’s troubles, and say full Sony consolidation is the best way forward.

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dveio22d ago

Interesting article, even with some actual names of the people voicing their thoughts.

I think that we've had enough similiar situations at other studios and publishers already, hell even completely different businesses, to know that OF COURSE it's always about hostile environments at work and the search for rather effortless profits than causing excitment with great ideas.

All deflecting statements, wether from managements or other people in charge, have always, literally always been untruthful. Always.

And it's so silly.

Nothing of this crap causes a nuclear war.

But all the people in charge act like everything is top secret f'n CIA like intel, trying everything to not stand up for their mistakes.

I mean it's pathetic, it really is. In the brand scheme of it all it's truly pathetic.

robtion20d ago

Let me just fix this:

'Everything Bad Happening in 'The world' Is Because of Greed'

Bravo captain obvious.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

All of sudden consolidation is now a good thing.

Eonjay21d ago

Right I actually agree with you here. Something doesnt' seem right almost like Sony wants them to look bad because it is trying to takeover. I can't figure out Sony's intentions here but they are already wholely owned so full consolidation means that they can bring in their own management. And honestly this is probably NOT what Bungie wanted.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

"Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment."

Exactly!

Phil allowed Pete Hines to run the show at Bethesda and we got Redfall as result. Now that he´s gone and Bethesda reports directly to Matt Booty at XGS, things are definitely getting better!

It´s past time to Sony to take over Bungie and fire that POS Pete Parsons.

-Foxtrot21d ago

Sony has literally given these guys chance after chance, they gave them an extra BILLION to try and keep talent along with telling them to sort their s**t out

What else can they do here? They gave them free reign, extra money and they've spat in their faces.

If they took full control when they bought them they might have been able to salvage them.

TheColbertinator21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Bungie will be torn to shreds with Sony in full control. Another addition to the cemetery like Zipper or Sony Liverpool

Eonjay21d ago

Well the obvious answer to that is that it kinda looks like Bungie is getting torn to shreds without Sony's help. And clearly there is no way Sony is going to spend all that money and not step in to help steady the ship at Bungie because that would be a huge wasted investment.

MrBeatdown21d ago

Whatever mental gymnastics you just went through must be exhausting.

It sounds like you have some baggage from Microsoft's acquisition spree.

SimpleDad21d ago

Bungie was indie, so they depended on in game monetization. Sony makes money from other sources: music, movies, psn, ps hardware...

...so devs are hoping by full Sony consolidation they will cut down the monetization part, and make things easier for them...

...but keep in mind, Sony bought them because of their monetization and live service model and design, so much so they tried to make every Sony IP into a live service spinoff.

So I don't see much change in anything, for us consumers, if Sony takes full control.

Michiel198920d ago

i don't think you know what the word Indie means. Bungie has be under the hood of MS for a long time and basically were under the actiblizz hood while they were making Destiny. They are one of the biggest AAA studios, the polar opposite of indie. Technically they weren't owned, but they made deals with Acti like they were. Indie refers to smaller independent studios and don't need in game monetization at all to work. Hades for example has 0 ingame purchase options yet made a lot of money.

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It’s Just Over For ‘Marathon’

Marathon has always been teetered on the edge of future failure, but now that seems set in stone after recent events.

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CrashMania24d ago

Paul Tassi is a known xbox/MS stooge.

Saying that, Marathon looks so meh to me, absolutely no interest at all.

JEECE24d ago

Once he wrote an article characterizing Horizon Forbidden West, which came out over a year after the PS5 released, as a PS5 "launch game." Assuming this was just a mistake, I pointed out to him that "launch games" for a console are widely understood to be the games that come out on the day of a console's launch or in the immediate window thereafter. He responded and told me that he understood "launch game" to mean a game that launches, which would mean that every game that releases on a console is a "launch game" for that console.

I've basically ignored everything he has said since then. But I don't care about Marathon either way; playing Hunt: Showdown turned me off this genre pretty much.

Killer2020UK23d ago

He sounds like a stubborn moron

babadivad23d ago

It's releasing on Xbox...

Notellin23d ago

He's a Sony and Destiny fanboy. Has been forever. He plays Destiny 2 on PS5, what are you even talking about?

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neutralgamer199224d ago

If I was running Sony why would I not try to have bungie reboot Killzone and have it as their Halo. Honestly I don't know how Sony could justify that 3.6 billion purchase price. Insomniac games at 256 million has been their greatest acquisition in Playstation history for what they have already delivered and what's the pipeline

Profchaos24d ago

The smart money would have given them killzone but they brought them to be a pillar of their live services investment and seeming have no interest in allowing them near a single player story driven game again.

Lightning7724d ago

The bigger mistake imo is not having them do any SP projects. Just all LS stuff.

Also want to clear up some misinformation on my part about Marathon. It wasn't due to creative differences as to why Jade left it was due to early internal Play tests were reportedly not received very well. Which probably prompted her to leave. My fault on that.

Ghostwood24d ago

It does look like ass shit.

Would pulling the plug now make any difference or is Bungie thoroughly cooked regardless?

peppeaccardo24d ago

Since when Forbes is relevant for the gaming community?

Profchaos23d ago

Have a read and you can't say they are not wrong.

S2Killinit23d ago

I had a read and it was pure hyperbole

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