The Xbox 360 Is Dead. Long Live the Xbox 360.

Newsweek's Level Up Posts:
"My first Xbox 360--that's right, my first Xbox 360--died just two weeks after I received it as a surprise for my wedding anniversary last summer (my wife still gets Hall of Fame status for that gift idea.) One minute it was humming along nicely as I parachuted into position on Bridge Too Far in Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, the next it froze up and stared me down with its HAL 9000-esque eye burning three-quarters red--the dreaded "ring of death" came to visit. I somewhat sheepishly brought it back to my local Best Buy, secretly afraid--after a night of Googling message boards--that I'd suffocated it in our TV cabinet and melted its innards to mush. The salesperson at the returns desk barely looked up as I gingerly pushed the repackaged unit across the counter. "So have you been getting a lot of returns on these?" I ventured after the silence became uncomfortable. "Uh-huh," she said, eyebrows raised, "good luck with this one," pushing a new unit back across the counter. I left quickly."

[iceice123]

In your quest to gain most Heat on new to win the contest you're posting blogs now. You know it will generate a lot of heat because of all the M$/Xbox hating Sony fans on this site. So you go past the rules and post a blog, not even close to being news. You and everyone who approved this show how this site is going to sh!t, and being taken over by Sony fangirls.

-Edit- Who disagreed with me? Do tell why I'm wrong.

Lord Anubis, oh boy didn't expect that from you, fangirl. How about I spam N4G with blogs about PS3 having no good games or exclusives? How it's inferior to the 360? Is that news? No, no it is not. And neither is this, you approve such filth because you truly want this site overtaken by you and the other fangirls. Oh well, grats on taking over N4G, I'm sure Sony is proud =)

Icewake it's nothing personal
You claim sony fans to bag on this xbox machine like it's a conspiracy...whats it going to take for you to admit that it was not a well built machine and that MS doesn't belong in the hardware business...they know it !!!....this will be their last system...investors will make sure of it...it's obvious why MS focused on 07 games at e3...you really think MS is thinking of the future for the xbox ? Quit your denial like most xbox owners...i am a former xbox owner that is PISSED off that they launched a horrible machine....im happy they're trying to correct it...yes they do have a lot of money to float around...but as an investor i'd be pissed, and believe me they are at their xbox division...GAME OVER ! enjoy this final holiday season...I GUARANTEE this is it for the 360...it has hit its peak...and please don't be like every "xbox fanboy" and say halo to the rescue...that gets old !...It probably got too old for Peter Moore as well by using the halo button....hey hey hey good bye....nanananana

Okay lets start. First off Sony fans trash the 360 because they're afraid of the competition, not because it is truly bad. If it was would it have sold 10 million and be out selling the PS3 nearly 2:1 even though it's been out a year longer than the PS3? The investors pulling out part I really doubt, the costs of the 360s are a drop in the bucket compared to what M$ has, they have plans. Pissed of they launched a horrible machine? Everything about it is superior to the PS3, except its Dvd drive. Hit its peak? Ha, wait until the price drop(like they really even need one, though) then you'll see how a system can really sell. Halo to the rescue? You hate that? Sounds a lot like MGS4 to the rescue, except Halo can sell 4 million months before it's even out.

@Shaka2K6

I know you never come back to news (well with this Blog) after posting but...If the 360's dead and is still doing better than the PS3 what does that make the PS3...come on someone say it :)

[Lord Anubis]

its amsuing to read comments like yours. Its amusing because once someone feels threaten they claim the world is doom. A clear example is xbox fans in neo GAF, as usual neo GAF is making fun of things, everyone has fun and everyone gets along just fine but once there's a thread making fun of Microsoft or Bell, they claim Neo Gaf is doom and its going down.

AH, these are good times.

its very simple, if you don't want to read the news is entirely up to you but that doesn't mean everyone else should be deprived simply because you dont want to read or feel threaten by the contribution.

Man you are amusing. Keep up the good work.

[PS-Wii-60]

I consider myself open-minded and (judging by the size of your comment) was looking forward to reading a potentially interesting and well thought out opinion...

you lost me at Sony fangirls =/

[Itachi]

Icewake bury your head in the sand that would make it all better hahaha

[Komrad]

I think he's mad. I think competition benefits the consumer in the end, so does name calling. I'm just waiting for the 'why the NOKIA NGAGE II will fail' articles myself! yep.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Jesus, already down to one bubble with your new account?

[TexasJock66]

I'm an owner of both the PS3 and the 360. Therefore I can say what I'm about to say... I have to admit this site is a strong supporter of the PS3. IT DIDN'T USE TO BE THAT WAY. I'm tired of the 360 bashing. A news site should report news.

I love my PS3 but I have to admit the 360 right now, is a better gaming opportunity for gamers. The number of games available (isn't that why we play) is outstanding. Hopefully I'll get good use out of my PS3 next year with some of the games coming. However if the game is on the 360 and PS3, I play 360. Reason...the online experience. When I play live on Xbox...people actually talk and play as a team. The online experience on the PS3 is horrible. Nobody has a headset and therefore no one talks. Until the PS3 online community improves, the 360 will always be better.

So, my request... I love this website and I want to continue visiting...but please stop bashing the 360. Its a better experience. The PS3 has potential, but right now its a great way to watch movies on Blue Ray.

Just my 2 cents

[clownfacemcgee]

MK's posting all kinds of news, and if the 360 is just getting a lot of bad publicity, that's no big deal. A while ago, it was the PS3 getting a lot of bad publicity and I bet you were flame happy. All consoles get good and bad news.

And this is an exceptionally well written blog post, and is therefor really, at least I would say, worthy of being called an article. I'll probably lose bubbles for saying this, but the guy was saying in the article, that he loves his 360, but it has problems. I feel like I love my PS3, but it has problems. If you don't recognize your console's faults, that's called being a fanboy.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Droids dont follow the rules of the site, so... they can have it. They all (ALL OF YOU) know not to post from blogs or forums. It's in the f**king contributer test for f**k sake but here they are day after day breaking rules or signing petitions all because Sony f**king cheated them and they know it.

Now they have to live with the over priced Blu-Ray player disguised as a gaming console. They are going to b!tch, moan, whine, cry, and pout like babies and go sign petitions and join DJ and all the others over at Sony defence group. Then they gather thier little minnions and come back here to approve sh!t that shouldnt be here.

Here... I have an idea why don't we just report comments from the comment section here at N4G as "news" since it's the same f**king thing anyway. Droids are the same kind of people who cheat, glitch, mod and greif in online games they are bottem feeders and sucker fish living off the sh!t of others all because Sony F**ked them over and didn't give them any games for a gaming console but instead force fed them movies.

looooosers who arn't much different than a lieing politicaian who tells us lies by saying "were after terrorist" and realy end up after the oil.

http://digg.com/gaming_news

[XboxIsBad]

first, why would anyone want to buy a 360? there is no point. it isnt fun. there is a new sony fanboy in da house booyah. it's hard to imagine, but I used to like the 360. Since I went through three, and endless disc scratching, I found the PS3. PS3's never fail with a failure rate of less than 1%. Why would u buy a defective product when there is another product only $100 more and a built-in bluray player? Everyone would like the ps3 if they had one

[Art of Motion]

I'm happy with mine, but its like the net is now turning on it and off the ps3, thats the way it has been past 2 weeks.

[MikeGdaGod]

this isn't news. y'all know i love sony, but this isn't news worthy. who ever approved this needs to lose their contributor status.

[tomfoolery]

Mk Red posts neg-head 360 B.S.an awful lot on this site.....and don't
say you don't Red!
I read his crap with caution!.This site is comedey central,just
got to go with it and have fun,or just turn your back on it.
Make a choice.

[paracardium]

yes Xbots really know how to make this website a gong show.

[power of Green]

Take his crank down all this guy does is troll negative 360 news.

[Eternal E 808]

its funny because he has no life and no good games to play on his beloved ps3 haha.

[trueltie5]

You claim sony fans to bag on this xbox machine like it's a conspiracy...whats it going to take for you to admit that it was not a well built machine and that MS doesn't belong in the hardware business...they know it !!!....this will be their last system...investors will make sure of it...it's obvious why MS focused on 07 games at e3...you really think MS is thinking of the future for the xbox ? Quit your denial like most xbox owners...i am a former xbox owner that is PISSED off that they launched a horrible machine....im happy they're trying to correct it...yes they do have a lot of money to float around...but as an investor i'd be pissed, and believe me they are at their xbox division...GAME OVER ! enjoy this final holiday season...I GUARANTEE this is it for the 360...it has hit its peak...and please don't be like every "xbox fanboy" and say halo to the rescue...that gets old !...It probably got too old for Peter Moore as well by using the halo button....hey hey hey good bye....nanananana

[Nicosia]

If you where a x360 user...you would be a little more thinking more open. And i can tell you, you never had one. Its only to justify your opinion. Both systems have there good things and bad things. A user who owns both would agree with me.

[Eternal E 808]

you are one of the dumbest i tell yah....first off how is this the end of the 360 because of its fail rate if it has a 3yr warranty? also how will it fail this year if most of its heavy hitter games are comming this year and how will they fail if they do drop the price with a 3yr warranty on every console hmm im sorry but its just about to begin.

[PS-Wii-60]

I can see your point exactly and it's an important one.
A corporation's sole purpose is to MAKE money, NOT lose it.

I think, however, business ventures to control media are an exception. Long-term potential gains far outweigh any losses, unless of course it means bankruptcy, which obviously does not apply to M$.

My point is made clear when considering the fact that MicroSoft's XBox division has already lost upwards of 6 Billion dollars in the last 6 years (if the figures are correct). $$ 6 FKN BILLION $$

Yet M$ hasn't pulled the plug and I honestly don't expect them to, ever.
TOTAL control through mass media is every corporations wet dream.

[Nicosia]

mwha... MK Red is a good guy. Though i dissprove as to go as low as to take a blog post.

[power of Green]

I thought so too but he's a fanboy that post just enough good 360 stories to throw people off. He's either a super Sony fanboy or a greedy person trying to win money with no regaurds to responsibility.

[XxZxX]

cry me a river. You guys are so happy when just few months before when PS3 still constantly getting bad publicity. PS3 is dead, XBOX 360 outsold PS3, PS3 lost exclusive, Ken Kutaragi stepped down. You XBOTs was so happily jumping over it. Now XBOX 360 got the same treatment and you guys crys over it. You should be shame at yourself.

[MaximusPrime]

perfect choice for xbox360. It is telling us that it doesnt like us.

PS: When the last time on N4G a news about faulty PS3???? PS3 has less than 1% failure rate (and so as Wii) Xbox360 33% failure rate. Australia recalled xbox360, UK repair store stopped taking in faulty xbox360 too many of them. The list goes on and on and on and on. Dont believe me?? believe N4G

Edit:Red Rings of Death Condolence Card
Some smart business guy thought of this idea>>>

I heard a horrible news,
you got the red ring of death.
Your beloved xbox360
has taken it's last tortured breath.

First it begins to give errors,
and then it starts to freeze.
You begin to look around for
your one year guarantee.

You definitely saw it coming,
you heard everyone's story.
The lovely reliable 360
in all her pride and glory.

The rumored 360 high failure rates
you now know to be true.
I am so very sorry for your loss,
My thoughts are with you.

[Tsukasah]

I was hoping it was giong to be news like microsoft discontinued the 360... so i can make fun of the xbots even more with the new braging rights i've obtained(sony, e3, outselling 360) i have the wii's marketing down, :( anyways... this is a blog post, dont post these ever agian, please :( post some sales figures or what that new extra thing is other than rumble in the new sixaxis, or some MGS4 gameplay videos... not this

[sandip787]

lol mk youve pretty much won the points contest this month, theres no point posting this flame bait stuff itll only taint the great posts youve been giving all month.

[Shaka2K6]

True and buried.

[power of Green]

I think the sudden spike of this BS news is because Sony fanboys know the 360 issues will be ironed out and the line-up plus a possible price-cut will keep the ps3 in last place this whole generation.

[Art of Motion]

The new cpu/gpu is right around the corner, once the 360 has that there will be no need to worry about your console. It will also shut up all the dumb sony fanboys (before i get raped for saying that, there are ps3 gamers and ps3 fanboys).

[EZCheez]

You have been using this site just as long as I have and maybe longer and you know just as well s I do that there is BS news that goes both ways. The only reason this site is filling with PS news now is because of a lack of posters like TheMart. Where is he now? He used to do the SAME thing. Did PS fans complain? Of course, but will it change anything? No. If you don't like the news that is posted then just find your own and post it. This site depends on the people who use it, and if you want it to be pro 360, then try to make it that way yourself. This site will NEVER be nonbiased and will always have news like this.

[JIN KAZAMA]

Another story of a failed 3FixMe. This is just getting sadder by the moment people. Xbot zombies have literallly been brainwashed into thinking that taking back their 3FixMe to get it fixed is a normal thing.
Eternal E 808, you are as ugly as the look of the 3FixMe's RROD.

@Art Of Motion: What makes you so sure that the problems will stop then? Also, what about the REST OF THE 11 MILLION USERS THAT HAVE BOUGHT THE 360!! 11 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE A TICKING TIME BOMB ON THIER HANDS!!!!

[Jdash24]

i kinda have to agree with that, after halo 3 the 360 will have no good exclusives at all...... i mean you got bioshock coming out next mont, then halo 3, and finally mass effect, those are the only 360 exclusives i see coming out and once there out then what........i dont see microsoft pulling out any new franchises...im sorry microsoft but unless you get more solid exclusives, your kinda sunk

[PS360PCROCKS]

Too human, banjo Kazooie, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Halo Wars, Next Ninja Gaiden are the big ones...
Infinite Undiscovery (RPG)
Dungeon Hero (RPG)
Theseis
Sacred 2 (RPG)
2nd confirmed Bioware RPG for 360 only (RPG)
Warhound
Project Progressive (RPG)

their are the other ones I don't know as much about, plus their is tons of games not yet announced, hello it's july 2007 and why the hell do they need to announce 2008, have you looked at the lineup for 2007?

Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, GTA IV, Assassins Creed, PGR 4, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Lost Odyssey (Maybe U.S.A.), Blue Dragon, COD4, Guitar Hero, Rock Band (now timed exclusive) and I am sure their is more I can't think of, but that is 12 games that are all AAA that will score no lower than an average of 8.8 (Only games in question are Rock Band, Assassins's Creed and Lost Odyssey but does anyone expect any of these to honestly suck?) 8 of those games are all exclusives (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3,PGR 4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Rock Band), 6 are MAJOR franchises (Halo 3, GTA IV, PGR4, Splinter Cell, Guitar Hero and COD4) that are destined to excel, and 1 has already released in Japan to very good reviews (Blue Dragon) So please do me a favor and shutup...

edit:: to add to this before anyone says anything stupid yes I know the PS3 will have 4 of those games (GTA IV, AC, Guitar Hero and COD4) and yes I know that Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank and Lair, oh and I guess Warhawk all come out this year, and no I expect none of them to suck, but only one of them is a major franchise. So the exclusives are about the same as the big name 3rd party games...of course Microsoft would look to show of 2007, while Sony is trying to say "yes 2007 is nice but here is 2008" hence them talking alot about KS2, GT, and MGS4.

[XxZxX]

N4G is fine, i remmember the day when XBOTs constantly pushing rumours about PS3 losing exclusive and PS3 has poor sales news. What's goes around come around, dont do what yourself can't handle.

@17, ooh really, XBOTs can post same PS3 losing almost all their exclusives over and over again and we can't post what is written up from the nets same as the losing exclusives article.

@17, yeah douche, just look it up how many same FFXII or MSG4 RUMOURS not even news go multiplatform in N4G.

[killercam19]

but u c u dumb cvnt they posted when u lost each exclusive u fruits have been posting the same effing topic for the past 2 weeks

[nurayi]

andpaul, dont even try and tell me that we didnt read "the ps3 has no games" in about 4-5 stories every week for about 6 months. now several people are posting in every story about how N4G has changed, and these news tips are bogus. just deal with it, what comes around goes around, and this is mild next to the recycled trash that we saw for months before. this is how the site has always been, and you should know by now that some stories you just dont need to read if they will upset you.

[EZCheez]

It wasn't that long ago either. I stopped going to this site once the Warhawk beta started (I was addicted) and when I came back the site had a completely different feel to it. Since I started using this site again I have seen a total of maybe 5 TheMart posts. I was shocked.

[killercam19]

We get it the 360 has problems its pretty obvious u guys don't have to keep posting these articles we know the 360 has issues can we move on now....u guys are the perfect example of dragging something out for too long

EDIT: ok y would some ppl disagree i was stating the truth...go slit ur wrists

[Mighty Boom]

My launch day 360 and my Elite both purr like kittens...

Maybe I'm the anomaly maybe I'm not.

[nurayi]

ahh sorry, didnt mean to respond. look at bottom for comment.

[harpua]

"My launch day 360 and my Elite both purr like kittens..."

yeah, the drive in my 360 is pretty loud as well.

[tomfoolery]

You PS3 only fans are really scared arent ya....ARENT YA.
You can sense it big time by their hostility.Well you know,
every other system had to take the back seat to the ps1 & 2
in recent memory.Now your throne has been swiped and your feeling
pretty butt hurt about it.Being a good loser builds character,and you
can't win em all............so enjoy!

EDIT;
To XXZYXX or whatever!!!
I never told you to shut up,I simply stated that you need to be a better loser(that is if the ps3 loses this gen).Deep inside,I hope
all 3 consoles do well man.

Last edit....thank god!
To XXYZZ?!!??
Oh!Your here as an N4G site crusader,oh,well then forgive me for thinking you for a Sony cheerleader.(Nice try Fabio).

[XxZxX]

maybe we are but it's not us who wrote up this news, we refer them. If you want us to shut up, ask GameIndustry, Kotaku, Joystiq, Gamasutra, informationweek to shutup too. Also you can find anything bad news about PS3, feel free to post it here, this is N4G.

If not news should not be posted but rumors can be posted instead?? HUH HUH HUH

@to Toms, I'm just defending the path of N4G. I'm here to hear rumors/news/article/blogs. It's one stop place for all gamer's news. It just weird that what been happen to PS3 now happen as XBOX 360 as well. XBOTs just crying all over it how foul N4G is. Yes you sense the hostility fron Sony Lemming to XBOTs but can't you sense the Hostility from XBOTs to Lemming as well?

@Sony Cheerleader huh? Fabio huh?? Well If you are really that 3 system saint as you are. You would be get quite piss off if you see XBOX 360 hardware failures news. You might have 3 system but clearly an XBOT inside. I'm sorry that you favourite console got flamed. HAHAH and how could N4G give one bubble to a 3 System Saint.. How could that be. Nice try to you too haha

[Eternal E 808]

this isnt news..sony fanboys just seem to post every story of a failed console wich is not by the rule of this site i find it funny that these articles keep getting approved juyst gose to show how ignorant sony fanboys can be i mean they know they cant put up something that has a bad ending to this fail rate because its always the same story...they always get a brand new one for no cost at all so i dont know whats the fuss about and quit these idiot aticles because there just not working.

[TruthHurts]

seek help.

and go to school, take ENGLISH.

How am I (anyone) suppose to take you seriously when you cant spell half the stuff you say.

@everyone

RAZER is offically now the DEFENDER of THE 360 FAILURE PROBLEMS.

[00]

how?

[Mighty Boom]

Weak post dude... WEAK.

[IBLEEDBLU]

y are all the xbots soo mad when they see a red rings of death story?? we all know its true...we all know 360 are trash..im sure their are millions of ppl out there with a good story about their 360 breaking on them...they should make a book on it..

pow u say all he puts up are articles of bad 360 news lol well if thats all that is out there y not lol

its sad that ur only come back to the PS3 is that it has no games - HELLO! that will change next month - then what are u going to say lol what is the price still to high for little timmy and his girlfriend xbots lol ahahahaha

i look down at u ppl on how swallow u ppl are

Eternal E 808 - ill pay u to change ur pic - pls man no1 needs to see how a swallow xbox360 owner looks like

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Ever thought to proof read your dribble before you post it?

"I look down at u ppl on how swallow u ppl are" ....just in case you didn't pass english class yet it's "shallow" not "swallow"........... "swallow" is something I am sure you are familiar with but its out of context here.

[computer]

ROFL Dlacy nice post!
+ bubble for you =]

[ShiftyLookingCow]

"pls man no1 needs to see how a swallow xbox360 owner looks like" LMAO, dont be such a sucky **

[OC_MurphysLaw]

So blogs from actual news sites from writers on staff...or blogs from developers on games I personally don't have an issue with. I know many take offense to blogs because typically they are opinion peices rather than fact...but they are still published on reputable sites/sources so I think its ok to share them on this site.

Now with regards to this article... I actually have no problem with it. Once I read it, I was a little surprised. The title of the article is a little more misleading than the way the article/blog reads. Yes it talks about the RROD but its not an over the top fanboy peice by any stretch. If anything this guy is a 360 fan reaching out and saying MS please give me some reason to feel comfortable that the issue has been addressed and fixed.

Warranty extension alone is not a good enough solution in my eyes. I am a 360 owner ...I love my 360...and I will continue to buy games for it 1st before any other system...but I wouldn't mind hearing MS say "we have fixed the problem". That would go a long way in easing the mind imo.

[SofaKingReetodded]

too bad its going down in flames because of a design flaw, although some xbots may be annoying in their faboyism at the end of the day they are still gamers with a failed console on their hands.

[razer]

I've got 2 360's and never had an issue with either. So stop lumping in all 360 gamers with the whiney worthless beotches that complain on the internet like somebody is going to give a flip.

[Hypnotic]

How is this article news?

[ALLGAMER]

have no idea. I got a 360 Premium and a 360 Elite, so basically, I ALMOST have a PS3 now.

[PS-Wii-60]

I'm not sure where you're going with this. At first it sounds like you're about to bash sony fans.
But, then you're admitting it takes 2 xbox360s combined to add up to a ps3?

You're not really supporting either cause IMO =P

[genericname]

"I got a 360 Premium and a 360 Elite, so basically, I ALMOST have a PS3 now."

just get the HD-DVD drive and you'll have close to a PS3 while spending $1,129 including an XBL subscription.

[razer]

If he is going to post every 360 sob story on the net then he will be winning contests for the next several months.

haha. Sony and it's fanboy armies have taken a lot of heat ever since launch and now the 360 is having some dark times. People just need to take it in stride. I've said in many Sony bashing threads and I will say it in this one that the Xbox 360 isn't going anywhere and neither is the PS3. Both have just as much "right" to be in the console business as the other. Both have their share of good points and bad points. But you will never win an argument with a fanboy, they are so wrapped around something as meaningless as a game console that there is no reasoning with that and you should just take pity in the sorry existance that they live in.

Jump In. Play B3yond. Kick a fanboy in the throat!

[nurayi]

MK Red did not write this story. see, for gameing journalists to stop touching on this particular subject, the problem has to disappear. this is going to be a good thing for us, as long as this issue is out there, there is a need for gameing journalists to harp on it. the more pressure MS gets the faster they turn this thing around, and you guys surely wouldnt be upset if this disappeared right?

once again, MK Red didnt write this story, and I am sure someone would have tipped it anyway. as long as this problem is out there, your going to see news on it. this cant be surprising in any way, can it?

[INehalemEXI]

Sorry but the failure rate is to high, and the repair service is overpriced and not fixing the janky optical drive that scratches discs Im tired of sending this box in another box to get fixed only to have it turn out 3 months later needing to be fixed again.

Sony was beat down forever in the news ms and fans should be able to own up and handle some well deserved heat.

[Itachi]

yes blame MK_RED after all he made the xbox360 damn you, damn you to hell

[ReBurn]

It has just hit a bump in the road. When they get the quality issues under control and drop the price you'll see it pick right back up again. After all, it took a price drop for Sony to get people to start buying their machine again. In fact, Sony's price cut was enough for me to get on board, even though the PS3 has very, very few quality games right now. Thank goodness it plays PS2 software.

[the_round_peg]

What else can you say? What else could you say?

Microsoft should have hired Japanese engineers to design Xbox 360.

Xbox 360 is not going to go away because it simply has too many good exclusives (like Bioshock, Mass Effect.) But given the bad publicity that's generated by the bad design of Xbox 360, Microsoft can't win this generation either. Most likely 360 will end up in rough 50-50 split against PS3, as more analysts have predicted.

If Microsoft wants to take out Sony in the next generation, Microsoft should relocated its R&D to Japan and hire Japanese to do the job. Sack all the American engineers. They don't deserve to stay.

Oh, the only acceptable engineering product that came from America in the past decade, the iPod, was NOT designed by an American. Obviously. The designer is Jonathan Ive, a Brit.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

"American engineering SUCKS" Blah blah

[Maddens Raiders]

do you think that technology fell out of the sky or was it engineered somewhere in America? Where do you think 75% of the aircraft and aircraft technology that you Europeans use to fly around on comes from? Hell the world for that matter?
I could go on, but you really are a pig-headed dolt. Go to sleep.

[SofaKingReetodded]

if all you have to throw at him is "windows" I think you actually prove his point.

oh and last time I checked Boeing was getting it's ass handed to it by Airbus, A European designed airplane.

I love my country but I don't believe in burying my head in the sand either and yelling "we are #1" just because it's American. The minute you start believing you deserve to be in first place is the minute you stop being in first place.

[Maddens Raiders]

ummmm
if all you have to throw at him is "windows" I think you actually prove his point.

oh and last time I checked Boeing was getting it's ass handed to it by Airbus, A European designed airplane.

I love my country but I don't believe in burying my head in the sand either and yelling "we are #1" just because it's American. The minute you start believing you deserve to be in first place is the minute you stop being in first place
============================= ==================

"I Love my country..."

Somehow that just doesn't resonate with me (coming from you) when followed up by the rest of the bile. The good thing is that you can believe whatever you want as long as you want young buck as long as you know HOW you're doing it. When the world needs help America gladly shows up with the Calvary, and asks for nothing in return. When things happen to America hardly anyone lifts a finger. There's no denying the America hatred. It's real popular right now, like PS3 hatred. =]

I love when other country's and softhearts like yourself (maybe) come across as America bad first -- then the other items will be taken into consideration type attitude. IT's wrong and has to stop. If you want to clown America's engineering capabilities fine. Go ahead, it's a free country. But, remember that Europe as we know it wouldn't even be here now if it weren't for those DAMN YANKEE AMERICANS, yeah? Probably'd all be speaking German, or Italian, or Japanese, or hell maybe even Russian ~~ which by the way os cool if you're into that kind of shyt, but we don't play that here...that's why we broke away from those crazy Royals back in the day.

Do you know history and why America is #1 mate, and for the world's sake should remain #1 (in conjunction with other free and loving nations) for the forseeable future? People bi*h about this country so much, yet everyone wants to come here. Isn't that odd? We don't hang our heads down around here unless there's a funeral pal. And last time I checked America ain't DEAD. And if/when we're hit again...cities and villages will be razed and lives will be annhialated instantly so be prepared if you know people of that pursuasion.

BTW - go do your math again young padawan and look at the number of American made aircraft being shipped worldwide to other countries, including Ships, Helicopters, HEavy Duty hauling equipment, tractors, Trucks, Cars, all kinds of intricate mechanical shyt I can't even name --- are you kidding? Obviously....

It's not that I'm saying other country's suck either. DOn't twist my words. What I'm saying is that we're really good at a lot of things and to point to one is lame and unfounded.

[ThoraxD]

I've always considered myself somewhat of an xbox fanboy but I am currently awaiting the return of my console for the 5th time. It's
starting to get a little aggravating. If I didn't have so much money invested in games and accessories, i'd be tempted to sell it when it
got back just so I won't have to go through this again. The 360 is a great console but one person going through 5 machines is ridiculous. And I have a feeling there are more out there like me....