Guerrilla Play Writes: Current research shows the Xbox 360 continues to dominate multi-platform sales (worldwide). The Xbox 360 is a money making machine which has enticed some developers who were PS3 exclusively, to go mult-platform.
Most of the third-party devs Sony works with are multiplatform to begin with. Sucker Punch is really the only studio that doesn't do multi-platofrm work. There is Eat Sleep Play, but they have a contract for three games with Sony.
People seem to forget that Sony owns over 20 first party studios that will not go multiplat and that 360 is losing third party exclusive devs also.
Also..."The Xbox 360 is a money making machine which has enticed some developers who were PS3 exclusively, to go mult-platform." Well, you heard the admission here first: the 360 is not a game console. It's a money-making machine.
this is a little bit off topic but why are some 3rd parties even 360 exclusive, if they are in it for money then they should also put their game on the PS3 so they get alot more, and if they are in it to make an awesome game then they should put it on PS3 so it could have better graphics, and more content, also just one more thing, im getting sick of all multiplats getting their standard from the 360, we all know the PS3 can do more so we are obviously getting cheated out of content. TBH i'm surprised people don't complain about this more because it is just so unfair, just let the PS3 version be better!
for a moment, as it starts with "guerrilla", the same as "guerilla Games". not a good start to an article dubbed "more ps3 devs will choose 360" :/
Sony also has a deal with Q-Games for more PixelJunk series games, and they have a 3-game contract (with 1 game left to make) with ThatGameCompany.
lol What's the Point of this article, Third Party Devs go Multiplat, it goes Both ways, don't make it sound like Sony lose Something when you know they don't cos Third Party Devs release Games on Playstation Platforms and Always remember that 20 First Party Studios make Exclusives Games For Sony
What a pointless article. We already know third-party developers will chose to expand their gaming market as much as possible. More 360 Devs Will Choose the PS3 as well...
I rather see Insomniac make games next gen for Sony and Nintendo than ever on xbox. I just feel, xbox is not a good look for them at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to say this. :)
More devs are going multiplat across the board it just makes good business sense. For this let's just say both PS3 and 360 have sold 40 million units if you develop your game for both systems you have a potential for 80 million customers, and if only 5% buy your game you still sold 4 million and that's pretty good today. Limiting yourself right away with only making your game for one automatically means lower sales potential. Will there still be exclusives yes there will but I'm thinking far less.
Why is why SONY themselves said "Third Party Exclusives are a thing of the past..". Pointless article.
Daft article that could easily have been the other way about Bungie, no? 99% of third party developers that were once making games solely(mainly() for PS2(raher than PS3) went multi anyway! Sony have called the third party exclusive a "thing of the past" as far as they're concerned and we'll still see odd devs make occasional deals for exclusives to any of the three platforms for varying reasons anyway. Sony are more well covered for exclusives that CAN'T be made multiplat in any case and this control allows them a little more freedom when it comes to opening up newer genres or game types. Sure, it's a little bit sad in some way as to see relationships like the Bungie/MS or Sony/Insomniac ones go to the wall but it's the nature of games today-even if I doubt that either Bungie's next or Insomniacs next multiplat games will sell half of their copies on their "new" platform in any case as their fans happen to still, largely, be on the other one. For instance, though we know it can't happen with Sony and MNS owninbg the IP do we really think even known series like Raqatchet or even Halo would sell as they do on their existing platforms if released on the opposing ones? Of course not! We've seen, at least since the sales of each platform(consoles sold) became comparable that those series wth a Sony heavy heritage(like Resi, SF or TR) still sell better on PS3 and it's the same with series of a more MS bent selling best on 360. Yeah, Bungie and Insomniac will both make more cash(potentially though whether Bungie can ever repeat Halo monies is a very tough ask!)but EA's insistence that Insomniac will "double" their income is spurious-at least for now. It takes no notice of the fact Insomniac(and Bngie or whoever in a similar position) will have to sort out their middleware for the new platform(to them) and hire staff who know how to make said hardware sing which all costs money you have to take off the bottom line. All this, along with most fans of the devs being on the original platforms says to me that it's going to be a decent while before their margins increase to the tune EA are telling us to expect. And lest we forget this is from EA who reckon they make more money from PS3 sales anyway! I'm not disputing their findings but surely if the first one is true(about EA's PS3 takings) then they're being wildly optimistic, no, about Insomniac's chances of immediately doubling sales and income. Personally, I'd expected Insomniac to do this in time for the next generation when they could start without a disadvantage compared to the majority of devs used to 360 development as then they'd have less ground to make up and more time to do it but if EA were saying they'd help more if they jumped now who can blame them? Whatever, it just amses me that EA like to simplify things so much even when it makes a slight nonsense of what they already said. Good luck to both Bungie and Insomniac on their future games wherever they may turn up but I still think this article is a little silly and pointless when it could so easily be said about any former exclusive making dev going in whatever multiplat direction.
3rd party developers cant ignore millions of gamers on either side... apart for some special arrangements.. ..... and rest you all know.. peace
Seriously... this article is TOTAL flame bait
Boy, this one got approved quickly, didn't it? On Topic: I think Sony realizes the reality of what 3rd party "exclusives" will look like in the future (non-existent) and therefore rely on what they've always put their money on, which is buying 1st party studios for exclusive titles. They are always gonna stay exclusive. 3rd party? That's always fluctuating. After all, the fact that more third party devs are going to multiple platforms haven't slowed the sales of the PS3. If that continues, they'll find it more logical to continue banking on 1st parties, giving more exclusives as their install base grows above the 360 and starts looking more appealing to 3rd parties, which might go back to their platform because of it, equaling a win/win. What I'm upset about is how Microsoft - of all the things they should have learned from Sony - never picked up the 1st party support. Honestly? After 30+ years that this industry's been alive, the only company to ever sell over 100 million units (home consoles) has been Sony... and they did it twice. The least you can do is study up on what caused the success. I guess all I'm trying to say is that Microsoft shouldn't be relying on 3rd party support forever.
The PS1 and PS2 were the defacto standard for developers. Sony got used to DMC, MGS, FF, etc as exclusive. Sony fans thought that those were "Sony games" until MS came into the fold and competed on the same level.
MS don't want to directly bear the costs of making games, they aren't a content provider like sony. Also MS buys out companies only for the start then hopes game companies will support the system, then after the 2nd or 3rd year dumps all the companies in the bin, not release them but actually shuts them down so they can't keep going. Last year MS shut down their flight Sim dev completely as well as all bar 1 360 dev they owned. I wouldn't rely on MS ever actually owning any game dev companies what so ever. Why do you think bungie had a hard time trying to get out of MS because they probably were going to get shuttered as well but just managed to get out of it in time. MS is a OS dev and they should just stick to OS deving and leave the console market they are fucking it up big time.
MS has closed or released more studios this gen then what they currently own. If MS had used their money to support their own studios instead of paying for multiplatform games (which ends up subsidizing PS3 games), then they would actually have a good game lineup year after year beyond just Haloz.
I'm waiting for Microsoft to go on a tear and buy up a crapload of devs. It has to happen for them to be competitive. Maybe not this gen, but before next gen.
3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past. There will be games here and there If there funded by Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft or It's a small publisher
as long as the games are good, i don't really give a shit
This man speaks the truth.
Lol all the games mentioned are shooters of some sort, except for assassins creed which nearly has an equal amount of sales anyway. The 360 is the home of shooters. I saw a research study showing that the PS3 sells more of action-adventure games (e.g. platformers)and sports games. But to be honest it doesn't bother me.
That is why Xbox 360 is called the Console for Shooter.
When there are more shooters on the PS3 and when it come to the FPS genre, the PS3 has 3 exclusive FPSs on the market (Killzone, Resistance, MAG) with the 360 only having one (halo) I once thought it's because of shooters the 360fanbase stay on the 360 but now I know it's not. It's because they just want MS to "win" over Sony cause if they really liked shooters they would be on the console with the most shooters in various forms from FPSs, TPSs (Warhawk, SOCOM, Uncharted etc) and even small Downloadable games.
Shooters aren't just regulated to first person.
@Chubear Compare the sales of Mw2 on ps3 to 360. That is where your answer lies.
Oh pls, MW2 has more sales on the 360 cause 1) It has a larger install base in NA 2) There isn't much other than Halo for FPS action on the 360 in comparison to the PS3 Just because MW2 sells more on the 360 cause shooters are all the 360 base support and the PS3 has more variety for genres does not make it the shooter console. It's about the games and bottomline, the PS3 has more shooters than the 360. and even when you compare the sales of MW2 on the 360 to the PS3 pound for pound the sales ratio favour the PS3 as well. The sales on the 360 isn't disproportionate to the PS3 sales where you have a 40mill install base for the 360 selling 15mill copies and only 1mill for the 35mill PS3 install base all while the PS3 having more variety of FPS games that spread out the sales even further. All those looking for shooters and buying 360s are just misguided or simply bought the 360 just for halo and will game on anything good after halo.
...did anybody care to mention that the reason shooters sell better on Xbox is because of Live? More online shooter fans prefer Xbox Live. Fact.
I don't think it's so much to do with XBL as a service so much as most people play where there friends are. I have a friend who loves his PS3, but games online with his XBL because his friends all have Xbox's and that's where they game. The Xbox came first and built up a nice user base. Then the PS3 launched and while it's outsold the 360 head 2 head since it's been available worldwide, it took awhile for the PSN community to grow. People will choose XBL for a variety of reasons, but the biggest is always "That's where my friends are." As more and more gamers turn to the PS3, there's no doubt we'll see that start to decline.
Sony doesn't care and neither do I. Sony owns tons of studios that are committed to making great PS3 exclusives so like I said before and I will say it now this doesn't matter.
Sony has some great exclusives and tons of studios. They don't need 3rd party exclusives they got a shit load of studios to do that for them.
possibly the best move sony made in their earlier years was picking up good talent for 1st party devs. But as for 2nd party and 3rd party exclusives that ship has sailed. Both the xbox and sony brands have more than enough support for both to be in this race for a long time.
Wow, this site has been on a roll with their 360 fanboyish ways. I don't even wanna give this site anymore hits because it's obvious that they are fishing for them now (though we have to in order to get into. Most of the "PS3 devs" are first party, for one. Second, where in the blue HELL are they getting their numbers. No source, no reference, no nothing. Just some random numbers that could've come from their next door neighbor that they assumed were true just because they wanted it to be. In the lead worldwide? According to WHO? NPD? Give us some sources and maybe we'll believe you. Never mind that the whole FFVersus13 thing they talked about was something the majority of gamers are against. Then again, can't expect anything less coming from a site that can't even get their own damned NAME spelled right! [email protected]: Thank you, Joe Flaherty! I didn't know the name was spelled that way for a reason that you obviously want to keep to yourself. Then again, I don't know why I'm answering you, since you probably won't be keeping those other two bubbles for very long with THAT attitude.
whatever happened to constructive criticism? anytime some posts something from this site or from the author you always come on N4G blaz'n saying how this site don't know how to spell it's name. you always seem to try to get that in somehow. well i guess you just got school'd by UserThree cause it looks like he did his homework. you failed. schools out......... http://dictionary.reference...
Yeah I'm fine with Insomniac going multi-platform it just means that more people will get to experience the joy of there games. As for this article, I haven't read it but I can guess the layout of; blah blah blah ps3 studio went multi platform blah blah blah its because 360 has bigger install base blah blah blah soon the whole world will cower before the all mighty 360 blah blah blah. I don't see how this one was aloud through as it does seem like quite a bias article.
If you actually did not read the article you just abridged the article to its core points. bravo and here is a bubble and an agree, well said!
don't forget that insomniac is only doing a multiplatform game, not going multiplatform for all their project (like xbox fans want to believe) and if the multiplatform are selling (a little) better sometime, it's also because they don't have gow, heavyrain, modnation, etc to buy ;)
I'm still sad that exclusives like Episodes from Liberty City will never come to the PS3...
Oh I see wat u did there. Those episodes won't come to ps3 just like the money from MS to fund those episodes are not funding a sertain exclusive game called agent for the PS3. Wink wink***
^^^^^^ money for DLC. you mean the money funding Agent right? ;D
Lol bubbles my boy, bubbles for u... Bubbles for everyone.
Nice reverse psychology.
L O L If final fantasy had been exclusive it wouldn't have comparatively SUCKED, and those one and a half million people would have either gotten it on ps3 or all the people with ps3's that didn't buy it because it was multi plat and new it was going to suck would have bought it. Multi platform games are of lesser quality 90 percent of the time. The only games that haven't been are umm Assassins creed one and two, borderlands, and...jeez I don't know nothing. Rockstar games are good but buggy as all hell and poorly ported.
Final Fantasy didn't suck because it was multipat. It sucked because the developers screwed the pooch on everything other than the new battle system.
because they had to limit the size of the game. Because they were trying to fit it on itty bitty dvd discs. Because it was multi plat
I agree bringing it to 360 ruined the game they openly admitted to cutting out lots of the game. Stuff they said they won't bring back not even in DLC... 360 ruined FFXIII and I will never forgive MS for that and there stupid choice to not put games on HD-DVD from the start.. Even if it failed as a movie disc games could have still worked on that format and it would have killed piracy. But of course they wanted to keep costs down and that was more important.. *tut**tut*
I would worry more about sony learning to build a operating system for tge ps3 as the one they use sucks and is a complete joke with its mandatory installs. Damn I just want to play a game and have limited time. I don't have 20 min to install a game. I know there is a few you don't but the majority of ps3 games including there exclusives as I just go white knight chronocles and it took 20 min to install and its a horrible game. As for developers jumping ship....if I were sony I would buy them all as that's the only way your going to keep them to yourselves as smart developers go for the money and the money is not in exclusives.
Jazz4108, if you 'don't have 20 mins to install a game' then you don't have time to play games, period. There's seriously nothing you could do with those 20 mins? Eat dinner, take a crap, make a phone call,...post on N4G? That's what I thought. Stop being a baby.
It probably would have been just as crappy. Square has been putting out some pretty poor stuff this gen.
absolutely amazing in everything and its a multiplatform, I don't understand what the heck you mean, a true videogamer don't say these things, it's the developer that make or break, 360 and ps3 are both nextgen it's strange that a videogamer don't know these basics, directly blaming developers because your favorite game haven't matched your expectations??
I doubt many 1st party PS3 devs will be jumping on the 360 any time soon. Oh and dominate multiplat sales? What is this 06? A few thou more is dominating? Those few examples in the article kind of proves that. How about some more up to date titles that aren't big budget shooters. This is flambait. Nothing more.
1st party studio means sony owns them doesn't it?
Yep. Like others have said, I can't think of many other devs that could develop games on the 360 other than Sucker Punch. Other than that, that leaves 1st party and I can't see them on the 360. Get it?
There is only like 2 or 3 more 3rd party devs left that do ps3 only and I cannot see companys like NIS doing 360. As for multi platform games selling better I say final fantasy XIII. Enough Said really.... No wait.. It wasn't a shooter!!! Only shooters and games with exclusive content sell better on 360 over PS3 than 360 in 9 out of 10 cases. MS are paying for this though they are trying to buy victory and its a real shame.. Once Sony gets more income from PSN+ you will see Sony pumping money into 3rd partys.
M$ pumped money into Tales of Vesperia, which is an excellent game for the 360/PS3, but when the PS3 version came out last year, it out did the 360's first day sales by 2.3 times. But I'm kinda doubtful about the whole NIS is only loyal to sony thing you pointed out dar. NIS just came out with a WiiWare game a little while ago, so why couldn't they come out with something for the 360, maybe port the 360 Cross X Edge (which is still a pretty horrible game). And besides, just because Insomniac went multiplatform, doesn't mean they still can't make exclusive games for the PS3 and vice versa right? Man, some people are delusional and head strong sometimes aren't they.
I'm pretty sure many a fanboy was butt-hurt when Bizarre Creations, Bungie, and Insomniac went multi plat from their "respective" systems. Everything changed this generation and I agree with those that says exclusives are dying. Other than Sony's IPs or MS' IPs, there is no reason for 3rd party devs to deny themselves money they can make on more systems.
artistic talent is best served on the system that allows artists the most creative freedom. Not the one that gets them the most money. What allows them the most artistic freedom is the most powerful system. Which is the ps3. Also the psn as it doesn't have a size limit. Good art is made for good art not for good money. Xbox pumps out the pop music of video games.
I agree with you. Use the system that best expressess artistic freedom, but you also have to remember that as much as it is art, it's also a business. They need money to make more games and stay afloat. So I say express yourself completely on one system, but at the same time, don't forget that there are millions of users on that other system that may want to play that game.
This whole article reeks of desperation. To top it off the source of the figures provided is where exactly? If you find it please let me know.
Most of the ps3 devs are sony's own developers. and 2nd party and third party will just be multi platform.
i'm betting that since insomniac's move to multiplatform, sony will aggressively pursue to purchase 2nd party developers to shore up on existing and future titles, like what they did with media molecule. My guess sucker punch is next on their list.
I'd say this would be smart on Sony part. Purchase Sucker Punch, Quantic Dreams, and EAT SLEEP PLAY to come aboard as Sony's first-party developers. Sure Sony has the 3 game deal going, but this is Jaffe we're talking about. Speaking of Sucker Punch, new Sly please = )
lets ignore that Bungie (Halo) and Bizarre Creations (PGR, Blur) jumped ship too. That's 2 for MS and 2 for Sony even though Insomniac and Ninja Theory were always 3rd party devs while the other 2 were first party studios of MS. There aren't any other devs like Square jumping ship and going PS3 because the X360 had nothing to begin with...
insomniac was 2nd party and Bizarre Creations was also so until bought by Activision i believe. Bungie was 1st party until a few years back when they broke from MS to become a private company. Only Bungie was 1st party for a while so get your facts right. Ninja Theory was always 3rd party though. quick google and wikipedia is all it takes man.
and before they were first party, they made games FOR.....macintosh. ohyeah.
They also made games for PC including Myth and the lasttwo Marathon games.
Wow, I didn't know "Insomniac" is considered "some developers." My math teachers taught me the wrong thing about what's plural! Dang those educators!