Since the release of the Game Boy, Nintendo has ruled portable gaming. That era is over, says Masato Kato, the writer of FFVII, Xenogears and Chrono Trigger. But why?
right...i may not agree with nintendos future outline but i've heard this before.Nintendo could sell ice to eskimos plus nintendo will do what nintendo has alwasy done offer zelda mario metroid f-zero and there other 200 ips that they know people will snach up at day one. I have a felling nintendo isn't going anywhere.
this guy is just 1 big troll if your gonna say nintendo is gonna come to an end at least give an actual reason as to why you think that "With the iPad going on sale, the epoch of Nintendo is finished," Kato tweeted. "But with the DS and the Wii, it's been digging its own grave." SERIOUSLY???
As successful Nintendo is this generation, they won't be next generation. Essentially they hit two home runs this generation. They're due for another N64, Virtual boy, or Gamecube. Fact of the matter is Nintendo will never invest as much money as Sony or Microsoft into their hardware. It's not like Nintendo has some kind of geniuses that Sony and Microsoft don't have; it's just that they got extremely lucky this generation. For the Nintendo DS position, it's analogy is the PS2 generation against the competitors of gamecube and xbox. The competitors against the DS is the PSP and the iPhone/iPad/smartphone. Next generation Nintendo will will face stiffer competition because they're going to milk the same franchises again, but Sony will have 2 analog sticks, graphics in HD, and better online.
"Fact of the matter is Nintendo will never invest as much money as Sony or Microsoft into their hardware. It's not like Nintendo has some kind of geniuses that Sony and Microsoft don't have; it's just that they got extremely lucky this generation. " I don't think you understand how retarded that sounds. Nintendo got lucky? I think you are forgetting how long they've been in this industry. Sony and MS are playing catch up now. You also talk as if the GameCube and N64 were complete and utter failures. If I am not mistaken the n64 and gamecube are home to some of the most critically acclaimed games.
How did you knew that the PSP 2 will have better graphics/online than the 3ds?
Love them or hate them, nintendo knows what there doing when it comes to games. 25 years of doing it is the proof. I think nintendo could make it if they wanted without 3rd party suport. Which is already preety bad except for a few games by 3rd partys conduit,monster hunter and a few more.
@tunaks1 It doesn't sound stupid at all. While I don't agree about the handheld sector(Nintendo will more then likely own that area for quite awhile to come especially if the 3DS does 3D well) They WERE lucking with the Wii. Go back to the playstation or PS2 era and tell any gamer that the next big thing would be a console where you flail the controller around. No one would believe it. It's a weird idea. Yet it worked. It was luck. Nintendo has been Hit and miss with consoles. NES was massive success, SNES massive success, N64 was a semi failure and Gamecube was a massive failure. Saying they have critically acclaimed games on those consoles means nothing. EVERY console at some point in it's lifespan has critically acclaimed games. Look at the Dreamcast it was a failure yet is beloved by fans and has plenty of critically acclaimed games. Nintendo have had a MUCH better track record in the hand held market. However that's largely been because of lack of good competition. I honestly don't see Nintendo recreating the success they had this Gen again in the next generation. That's just me.
"I don't think you understand how retarded that sounds. Nintendo got lucky? I think you are forgetting how long they've been in this industry. Sony and MS are playing catch up now. You also talk as if the GameCube and N64 were complete and utter failures. If I am not mistaken the n64 and gamecube are home to some of the most critically acclaimed games." So it's pure skill that Nintendo went from 20 million units sold with Gamecube to the Wii which is on pace to sell over 150 million? That is the biggest turnaround in video game history. I call that luck, and the way they did it was hit a "home run" or a "knock out punch". Nintendo themselves didn't think the Wii would be this successful. They brought in motion controls and targeted the casual audience and they benifited from that. Nintendo Wii isn't directly competing against 360 and PS3 and that is why it's doing so great. Next generation Ninendo will try the same thing again except the competition is stiffer. How did you knew that the PSP 2 will have better graphics/online than the 3ds? Sony always invests more on their hardware. They sell the system at a loss and the hardware normally almost costs twice as much as the MSRP. Nintendo always launches the system at a profit. Day one Nintendo will be making money.
I'm going to have to agree with Mikeslemonade with Nintendo on the console market, hand held is a different ball game all together and I don't have an opinion on that. But getting back to the wii; I'm just going to point out some simple logic...Nintendo cannot make a true successor to the wii that will sell like the wii. Why? Because...there's the wii! Nintendo won't be able to laud as one of their biggest features downloading old classic arcade games for example...why? Because the wii does it, why buy a new console when your old one does what you want right? Same with the games that the casual market liked with wii, they have the wii! Why buy a new console? You have to remember the casual crowd is not the hardcore crowd, casual game players do not want to buy a new console when they don't play that many games to begin with, and all the fun games on the wii are again there. The casual crowd does not care about super pretty HD graphics, or state of the art AI and physics engines in games...if they did they wouldn't be 'casual' gamers would they? The way I see it Nintendo has 2 options. 1-they go for a suped up console and try to compete with Sony and Microsoft on the high end spectrum on consoles. and 2-they stick two wii's together with duct tape like they did the game cube for the wii. Joking aside, basically a minor upgrade which means cheap launch price catering again to the casual crowd. Now, option 1 in my opinion is the one they should go with, but it will mean a lot of competition for nintendo since Sony and Microsoft both have learned a LOT i'm sure about their HD consoles and what to make even better next time round where for Nintendo it will be there first shot in the HD era. NOT saying they can't do it, just will be a hell of a battle. And option 2 is a death knell as far as I'm concerned. If they try the EXACT same formula for the wii 2 as the wii I believe they will fail to achieve half the market share of the wii. Again....with the casual crowd who DON'T want to upgrade, and already have their virtual store for their older games and already having a plethora of fun games on the wii...where would the incentive be for the casual market to upgrade?
You have to understand how hard it is to go from 2d to 3d and learn how to use the tools to effectly make or bring the magic you once had to an evolving platform like gaming. Hell you could get a hacked version of zbrush and still not be any good at it for a long time. Why do I say such a thing? Nintendo sucked at 3d for a good while until the wii. It was mostly game play wise. It's no secret that japan was on the loosing side of the graphic war simply because all the big 3d iron makers where american. It's like their heart was not into it or some thing yeet really they simply did not have access to our tools. They where truly following some one elses vision it seemed. Yet now they have gotten good at 3d. I'm pretty sure they are using normal maps now and a few procedual graphics chips. The 3ds will run shaders, real shaders not gimped ones. Hell you may even see an epic engine on the 3DS. With the wii they have almost prefected game play in true 3d and with motion controls to boot. So far the wii has my favortie versions of all their franchise out or coming out on the wii and they all crush the GC versions and even the N64 versions. Nintendo was actually dead to me during that time yet now they are busting out of the grave like a vengful zombie. It funny because they got their groove back and while their wii sports offer game play no one has been able to do yet with motion controlls all of their core games got graphic up grades. After seeing Mario galaxy two on my DLP samsung I can not fathom why you guys think nintendo can not handl HD gaming, We all know thier next system will have it and they just prefected all of their franchises pretty much and even gave us a 2d mario that is a gem. By the time they want to do HD on a console we will have a video card with almost 2,000 cores in it and enough ram to power my workstation from 2001. seriously HD will be ready for mass consumption then and a $250 HD console will be easy to produce and sell at that price. The power usage is shrinking like crazy. Also slow thinking people think nintendo profits are going down because of low sales, no it's called R&D cutting into your profits. Nintendo is spending big for the next DS and the next Wii. They where not lucky. They have multiple core nintendo games in the 10 million range along with games that I though would never get my wife to play games let along her parents. It's really sad how the every one truely believes that the hard core never leave gaming. They sure as hell left PC gaming ask id software. They are just as fickle as the new comers unless you believe the hardcore truely are sheep or brain washed. Tech wise I think nintendo is looking for some thing where they can bring custom hardware to each new game release, very similar to the FX chip. You can't do that with optical media unless it is caddy based, yet you can do that with 2TB SDXC cards, which would be able to contain as many as 100 high-definition movies, Yes thats a 2,000 gigs way bigger than a blu ray disk and even faster. It's very easy to then use a tegra or some other GPUCPU hybrid to off load rendering or even add more system ram just for one game. Unthinkable, well if they where in debt and trying to turn a profit yes I would be inclined to agree but they are not. Nintendo is the most dangerous right now. Every one looking in on their success can not see nintendo has made it's best games for casual, and hardcore gamers this gen. The sale prove it, yet of course a PC gamer would not like traditional console games like a 2d mario. Wake up gamers you have intruders in your house! PC gamers are not your friends LOL.
Nintendo lost me as a consumer for their next-gen console. I'm sorry, but they had so much potential in their hands, and they create casual, mini games? I was expecting sword fighting epicness, insane FPS games, and a rebirth of the first person shooter with the controller. Screw that.
yeah what ever and this time its coming from that guy? hater much?
the ipad? you mean that $400 POS that apparently is great for gaming? has anyone played games on the thing yet? I rather play on a SEGA Game Gear than that POS..
thats what i was tellin u before***( cleavandshow)
The Game Gear was great though.
with a ton of accessories and a few games, like an idiot, I gave them to my neice and nephews.
funny you should say that because I just did an hour ago, played on the game gear I mean.
the iPad will not pose a threat to the DS in the long run. How much can really be achieved with no buttons? Sure mini games here and there will be neat on the iPad, but when will we see a full fledged title that is exclusive to the iPad? A game that will get as much buzz as a Mario or Zelda game? Never.
The iPad? That $600 piece of shit is just a oversized iPod touch, what? you mean to tell me for birthdays and christmas mothers are going to start getting thier 8 year olds iPads instead of a DS? You must be insane, 70 million Wiis sold and like 120 million DS sold, yea, nintendo is going anywhere son.
Oh, is it that time of the month for someone to say Nintendo is doomed again? /yawn
When will Sony put this masterpiece on the Playstation network? it's only one of the top 3 rpg's of all time; sounds like a no-brainer.
Sorry, but this guy's way off. The iPad is nothing more than a bigger iPod Touch, and gaming on it is just terrible, at least in terms of serious games. It won't touch the DS or the Wii, which has sold nearly 130 million units and counting. I'll take gaming on the DS over gaming on the iPad any day.
Whatever he's seeing, I don't see it. Wii dominates console sales, DS dominates portable sales and iPad is a flop. Maybe he means Nintendo will never return to hardcore gaming, but they sure aren't losing their position in the market
It's about time you keel over, nintendo. Come up with something fresh, and stop catering to the casual market. Until then, I'm sticking with the true next gen consoles...
why are people so stupid when it comes to predicting ninetendo's future? i mean you'd think that a company that is owning in terms of sales on both of their products would get the benifit of the doubt that they can last a next generation.... i mean 70 million wii's do i need to say what kinda profit that is?
Providing Nintendo doesn't completely fuck up with the 3DS I doubt this will happen at all. It will be interesting to see the approach Iwata wants to take with the 3DS though as it's going to be first generation launch that he's planned.
Thats so stupid. 3DS WILL RULE! It will probably have the FF6 Remake (the Best FF game) = Pure Win
Is this guy mad?I respect him for writing my favourite videogame ever but this is absurd. Admittedly iphone/ipad is stealing marketshare quickly from both Sony and Nintendo, but they lack the support and fundemental hardware design to blow DS and PSP completely out of the water as a gaming platform that will appeal to the hardcore. Only reason iPhone is gaining ground is because of Apps. Not the games.
i think the 3DS may fail for the simple fact that customers might look at it and say "jesus christ, another one? i just bought a friggen dsi!" personally i dream of a world where atari rises from the ashes and sweeps nintendo aside, returning us to the age of pure, sweet gameplay.
Masato Kato isn't the writer of Xenogears. That glorious honor goes to Saori Saga and Tetsuya Takahashi :).
sorry nintendo isn't going anywhere, and sony with nin will get my support till they get out the biz.
even though the xbox has better graphic doesn't mean its better then the wii at least the wii will last longer then the xbox 360 thats for damn sure and im happy with nintendo because they do have harvest moon the good ones rune factory tatsunoko vs capcom people really needs to stop focusing on graphic all the time you make fun of the wii's graphic then your making fun of the king thats the ps2 which doesn't have better graphic then the wii.
Final fantasy too, is not what it once was. XIII could have been much better. Every family in the US is familiar with Nintendo, the DS and the Wii, and all the iconic characters. Ask a family if they will buy a game if Nathan rake is in it, they say "who?" ask them if they'll buy a Mario game and they jump to say "of course!" Nintendo is too established in the casual to decline. But what does it matter, all of us here will still be gamers and buy mario, killzone, and halo. When companies as massive as Nintendo begin to decline, they have to call to their base, and at the moment, nintendo's base is way larger, look at how many wii's have been sold compared to anything else? same with the DS. Nintendo makes any new product and they're back on top. (I jut wish they would give a little more love to the hardcore though. I'd want another starfox and Zelda is driving me mad!)
is not a gaming console people got it mainly for school and work the ipad won't do anything to nintendo or anyone else..
Nintendo isn't going anywhere are you kidding me. They have 2 key franchises that people will keep buying on handhelds. Pokemon and mario simple as that are they innovating ? HELL TO THE NO!! But people find it fun so they will keep milking it. Console wise I wouldn't say they got lucky nintendo did the smart thing stay out of the world war 2 between sony and the Microsoft.
Sales say other wise,Colonel
Sales mean innovating ? Please come up with something better please because they are not innovating don't spew that crap to me.
Seriously there is nothing innovative about the ps3 ethier. We had real hd games since hl2 and quake 3.... Try playing quake wars or even the up coming brink on a pc. Consoles still can not handle 64 people spawning multiple tanks air craft, trip mines triggering multiple objectives and playing from any ones pc just by using a user name and password. There is a reason ps3 games are not really a part of pro gaming turnaments it's too gimped. This is why pc type games dominate the two hd platforms they ride the perfection of the pc games. Halo is a gimped quake 3/golden eye. All nintendo has to do is make a gen 8 console by your logic and they will be innovative because it can do hd and online, pc functions. Face it your a pc gamer 600 cores is innovative not 6. At least nintendos games are still fun for 20 million people. Innovation is overated if it doesn't do any thing to get new gamers.
The ps3 had nothing to do with this argument. Why bring it up ? Sony has made some innovating games this generation so idk what your talking about. The only thing I say pc has the a huge advantage over is mmo and thats about it. Play a game called little big planet and tell me if its not innovating find a game thats like little big planet on the pc ??? Oh yea I forgot you won't. Little big planet sold over 3mil copies is that not bringing new gamers in ???
Col I'll name a few blast works on the wii already does what lbp2 is doing lol and you can up load your GAME to the web not some closed system. From doom, duke nukem, to even ut3 on your own fav system had better and full moding tools. There are countless tools on the pc that let you do what lbp does. Fps have to have the ability for the players to tweak the rules even halo let's you half way do this. Vets don't want the publisher to hold our hands. It's cool you like the ps3 but seriously why are you even in a wii post? Nintendo does not make games for the heavy rainers of the industry or the hype squad. Look at the sales and tell me the majority of ps3 owners agree with you. Now brink is innovative. It has natural evasive moves that flow not the rigid duck here and shoot. Plus you can run your own servers. Sony does have good ideas yet you hardly ever get to see them come true because they are more talk than show. Albout all nintendo has is game play and that all I play consoles for. Also sd card have offically past blu Ray as the best choice for hd games. How well by a ps3 fans logic gaming needs bigger disk but devs know we just need faster disk. The new spec for sd cards is 2 tera bytes or 2,000 gigs with write and read approaching 300 mega a second. On top of this sd cards will continue to go down in price as the fans shrink them and make them faster. Also Sony should have become a toy maker a long time ago instead of waiting this gen to buy all these studios. Face it the only thing that went right was them beating hd DVD. Which was a lame duck. When a ps3 is no longer a toy toy r us will stop selling them, since they don't sell gaming pc ethier like alienware. Seriously there is no need to argue both out points have been voice and we seem not to agree that is fine.
Nintendo will dominate and continue to do so in the handheld market. That and Ipad is too expensive (one of the main flaws which doomed the psp in its war against the ds). Not only that I don't see or begin to imagine that this ipad is even a gaming device. its just a bigger itouch with more features.
Guy's, won't it be funny when the next generation PSP has better graphics then a Wii? Just think of it. I'm serious..
Maybe he's seeing something that we aren't. Clearly the Apple shades have affected his sight of thinking. Nintendo has shown to their investors that that despite a crippled economy they can bring them profit even in the eye of a hurricane that everyone people are crying for HD. They have the greater might then most of their adversaries, marketing and as one has pointed out...they can can sell ice to Eskimos. The market for the Ipad is no where near the that of the Nintendo Handhelds, and to top it off it looks like Nintendo is trying to get their system synonymous with health and everyone's life style. Doctors and health institutes are using the Nintendo brand, I this type of marketing is really odd but I had to really do a O_o when I saw the American heart association logo on the Wii. I think apples product is meant for those that have already bought into the apple craze.
For me, the best console I've played in childhood was Super Nintendo oh God and what games.
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