Treyarch: 60 FPS is a 'critical component' of Call of Duty experience

"There are two kinds of developer in this world, boys and girls: the hairy-palmed half-men who are prepared to ship a game running at an immersion-scuppering, yawn-inducing 30 frames per second, and the steely-eyed heroes for whom nothing, nothing short of double that number will suffice.

Now guess which group Call of Duty: Black Ops designer and Treyarch studio boss Mark Lamia belongs to. That’s right."

[LordMarius]

well since the graphics look like doggy poo they have to make up for it somehow

[Dance]

we talking about the same call of duty?

[N4GAddict]

Black Ops looks great IMO

[Al Bundy]

I think he's referring to COD 1.

[chase167]

thanks to the 360

[theonlylolking]

That might be true but saying that on N4G will start a flame war.

[dirthurts]

That be the_only_troll_king?
Just sayin...

[chase167]

its the truth

[hoops]

Funny. Both the PS3 and Xbox360 versions were sub hd for COD4. Too many console games this generation for both systems are sub hd

[etownone]

GTA4 and RDR say hi ;)

[N4BmpS]

There's no such thing as a game as high profile as this with graphics that look like "doggy poo". I understand if you were let down by MW2 but this game looks pretty good, great even. Don't know if I'll buy it though.

[raztad]

On the PS3 COD4 looks very mediocre, the textures are horrible, the only thing okeish are the character models and some nice lightning here and there. MAG has a better texture work.

WaW looks mediocre as well, same engine I guess.

Those supposedly 60fps games run most of the time between 40-50fps.

[N4BmpS]

Yeah I agree but as opposed to what games looked like in Gen 6 it still looks good(and bad), it's an oxymoron good but still good.

[tunaks1]

this is kinda ironic,
Reflex and W@W on the wii ran at 30 FPS...

[N4GAddict]

That's for the Wii though

[Double Toasted]

Red Steel 2 runs at 60fps...thats for the Wii though.

[hybridtheory12]

lol

[tunaks1]

i know the wii isnt as strong as the 360/PS3 but Metroid Prime 3, red steel 2 and MOH:H2 all run at 60 FPS.
Treyarch did a great job with Reflex.

[Asuka]

everyone likes to talk down treyarch's COD games. I much enjoyed COD3 and WaW. WaW take on ww2 was some unique and actually felt "fresh". The multiplayer made a couple of enhancements from cod4, and the weapons overall felt balanced (except that damn MP40 lol). Nazi Zombies was obviously the biggest thing though. I would buy the map packs just for the new Nazi maps.

spawn camping in tanks < spawn killing with AC130 < tactical nuke < noobtube/oneman army/danger close < commando pro/marathon/lightweight (just my personal opinion)

[Faztkiller]

60fps is great but I would be just as happy with 30fps and better graphics

[iamgoatman]

I much rather 60fps over a few extra filters or blur effects.

I guess it's down to personal preference really.

[Faztkiller]

Really the main thing I want is 720p and better smoke effects if they could do that and keep it 60fps that would be great

[hybridtheory12]

im happy with a good game and multiplayer experience than 60 FPS. *cough* BFC2 *cough*

[iamgoatman]

I'm lucky enough to be able to play most games at 60fps on my PC with all the bells and whistles turned on anyway.

But if it comes down to possibly lowering the shadow quality or turning off motion blur to maintain a constant v-synced 60fps, I prefer that over slightly better image quality.

[Faztkiller]

Jimmy I got a weak PC can't run much but on PC I'm the same way not sure why but PC games don't control right unless there 60fps but on console I can't fell the diff

[Doletskaya]

Just like the noob-friendly nature of the multiplayer.

[NecrumSlavery]

Until they update the engine, then let the 60fps dilly suffice. Killzone 2 ran at 30frames and I can't find one guy who yawned at it. Visually fluid and stunning.

What treyarch should be focused on is delivering an epic game, so they will stopped being crapped on by arrogant Infinity Ward and the rest of the gaming world. Black Ops looks good though in gameplay. Graphics decent. I'm glad they are doing something original with the time period given to them.

[Chaotic_Lament]

I yawned at Killzone 2's graphics. They were good, but slow.

[theonlylolking]

In a recent interview they said they wanted alot of weight to the game but the lag was not on purpose.

[ZombieAutopsy]

Alot of games run at 30FPS..Far Cry 2, Halo 3/ODST, Resistance1/2, Gears of War1/2. Left 4 Dead.

[theonlylolking]

No wonder the graphics are crap. They spend too much time trying to get 60fps they forget about glitches and balancing issues.

[crapgamer]

Black Ops looks promising. COD 3 was trash though, mostly because it was made on so many different lesser consoles. Especially when you take into consideration how great COD 2 looked on the 360.
Black Ops is a buy for me, I liked WAW, hated it on PS3 because of the Lag and the horrible amount of MP-40's and then I tried the 360 version and I actually liked it. Guns were harder to use but less lag meant it was more fun. What I didn't like was all the map packs. $60 for the game and then 4 map packs at $10 apiece bringing the total price to $100 for the game. You couldn't skip map packs either, so if you didn't like one too bad, you needed it to be able to play the next one.

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

Uh, I have the PS3 version, I don't remember experiencing lag other than some hiccups once a while...

[ZombieAutopsy]

Do you actually have to buy the map packs in order for WaW?

[CernaML]

Went to a friend's house and played WaW on his 360. First match I went into and there was a lag switcher. Went back to my PS3 and had no problem. So I guess I should hate the 360 version now.

[Ri0tSquad]

The trailers always look good, but the engine is dated. Not to mention, it never maintains that 60fps; The framerate is all over the place.

[Chaotic_Lament]

Hell yeah it is!. In fast twitchy shooters I'd rather have smoother motion than richer textures.

[EliteAssassin81]

I believe treyarch will make a better call of duty game compared to MW2. I just played WaW and really enjoyed not having countless killstreaks going off at the same time while seeing the same guy name pop up killing another same guy over and over

[Shaman]

Black Ops looks great.It uses new engine and Treyarch is actually VERY good developer as far as technical knowledge goes.It just boggles my mind why some people here cant just give the credit where credit is duo without being their console of choice.Look at the shoots and tell me that it does not look impressive,especially for 60fps game.

And BTW its not 640p,its not the same engine as MW2(Id Tech 4 modified) its their new property engine.

[iamgoatman]

Didn't know they were using a name engine.

Sounds interesting though, I feel the main problem with previous COD games is that they felt exactly the same but in a different location, a total lack of variety. But hopefully a new engine will add a much needed new feel.

[hesido]

People who says 60fps is not important should look at 60 and 30fps footage side by side. The fluidity is much better on 60fps. I applaud their commitment. Sure, things could have been prettier, but 60fps does look better and is easier on the eye than 30fps.

[PotNoodle]

Such a shame the consoles are so weak. 1080p and locked at 60fps looks absolutely brilliant. Instead we get low, low resolutions on consoles at 30fps.

Frustrating.

[Pandamobile]

30 FPS is barely acceptable. I need at least 45 for smooth gaming. 60+ is optimal.

[webeblazing]

yea you got a point but consoles aint strong anuff for that dev better off making the games looking better. then can be like if you want the best like high fps,res, effects, etc. get the pc ver. most game today are multi plat. dont know why devs dont try to promote pc ver. of their game people would be more swayed to pc if they even knew what they do. instead of saying consoles is where the money at, its obvious that gaming as a whole is where the money is. i never seen a ad on tv about crysis ad imagine what that would of did. when i started gaming on pc like 12 yrs ago which gaming period wasnt as mainstream from imo. i had to be showed what hot and i said the same dumb stuff people say now dont wanna use kb&m (here you can borrow my controller), i dont have money for a new pc (he told if i didnt know how i can get somebody at a pc store to upgrade it but he did it for me parts was cheap). most gamers what things spoon feed to them. all pc need with they dont really need is advertising not much and gaming mags on they side cause they dont even pay pc respect. dont believe look at gamepro, game informer, edge, etc., etc., and dont even say a pc mag of course they gonna support pc.

sorry about grammer want to get that off my mind

[Dannehkins]

I've played plenty games with a frame rate of 30fps. It's not something I get all frilly over so really, I would personally like them to maintain a solid 30fps and improve the graphics and environment.

Call of Duty may be known best for its fantastic gameplay, but it does little in the graphics department in my opinion and I think a graphical improvement would be most welcome.

[mrv321]

60FPS doesn't do much when the game lags, COD 4 has the same lobby system as MW2, and Black Ops will to most likely.

First have a region option, UK only, Europe only or what ever. Make such it's an option.

[SG-17]

Well when you run in 640p and have Xbox 1 level graphics sure you can make the framerate whatever you want.

[dirthurts]

Was mostly 480p actually.
A couple games could run 720 though.

[yamzilla]

in real hd 1920x1080p on my pc...just like all the other cod's have...and it will not be a jaggie, sub-hd blur fest.

All console COD's have been 1024x600

That is a 10 year old PC resolution...the original Xbox1 had games that ran in 720p....why does this gen get worse and worse for consoles.....

BRING ON THE NEXT GEN OF CONSOLES!!!!!

WE ARE SO SICK OF SACRIFICE

[hoops]

30fps if there is no slow down is ok...if you never played the PC version of that game running at 60+fps at 1080p+
I tell you. Once you go 60fps+higher resolutions with IQ turned on, its a different ball game.
Play any cross platform game on the PC then move to the console version of said game...You will see the difference RIGHT AWAY.

[yoghurt]

What a load of baloney, maybe my eyes aren't upto it but I don't think I'd notice the difference

we are well and truly spoilt these days!

[jmmurillo86]

Sounds like a cheap excuse for not upgrading the engine. I have faith in Treyarch though.

[Plancy]

60FPS is critical for FPS games, with fast moving first person perspective a person can easily start noticing blur artifacts on 30fps, especially with LCD tvs.