Perry: Wii Appeal Won't Last

While the Wii is currently the fastest selling home console globally, Dave Perry has asserted that the graphical prowess of rival next generation hardware will steal consumers away from its user base. He also believes that the Wii's interface is not the "final solution".

[mikeslemonade]

First true PS3 game is going to be GT5 or MGS4. Every single game has been using less than 50% power of the cell.

[mrk01]

People are getting tired of the minigames and mediocore graphics.
This is barely next-gen compared to the PS2 and Xobx, the wii-mote is the only thing that separates it from "last-gen".

[Rute]

And the only thing that separates Xbox 360 from the original Xbox is graphical performance. PS3 fairs better as it has Blu-ray and Sixaxis.

[clownfacemcgee]

But the Wii has the advantage of the mass market. I think the mass market brings down all consoles, because if they buy the low end technology, then what incentive do we really have to move forward? It just becomes a race to the bottom in terms of who can have the lowest price, regardless of value. You know, throw in a few gimmicks, which is what the PC market does with their "hyperthreading" or the memory car readers that cost $1 to throw in. I really hope consoles don't go that way, and they have one advantage and that's that they don't have to run accessory applications like PC's do. PC's have to be able to run Word or Powerpoint or iMovie or Maya or Google Earth or an E-Mail client, because they're for work, so they have to be able to do that AND game, so they become more expensive to produce. Whereas consoles give you just games, and they don't have to worry about all the other apps you can run or not, so they can focus on just tuning their hardware to the games. (god this rant is already too long) And once more manufacturers get into the market, we can really see competition. (but, as in the Wii's case, that doesn't always help) =)

[HokieFan]

I think that the integration of Xbox Live into the 360 is another major "next-gen" feature of the 360...the way you can interact with your friends on Live on the 360 is pretty amazing.

[JHFKDFNFGJKFHDKF]

the Wii will fade into insignificance as the xbox 360 and PS3 approach affordable price points.

[ITR]

What makes you think the Wii won't go cheaper, if everyone else does?
$199 would be the first drop, if any.

[Adamalicious]

Certainly the Wii will come down eventually, but not nearly as fast as the PS3 or even, possibly the 360. The components in the PS3 are more bleeding edge so they will come down in price more drastically than those of the Wii. Also it's already the least expensive, selling well. why drop the price?

My point is that they have less to save in hardware costs and little incentive to reduce the price so I don't expect them to anytime soon. Most likely they will to combat the price adjustment of competitors sometime - maybe in 18-24 months.

[JHFKDFNFGJKFHDKF]

I cant see the Wii selling any more than it currently is on a month-by-month basis. Whereas for PS360 that is obviously a different story.

[Marty8370]

Fads never last, neither will Wii.

[ALI G]

did not every one say the samething about DS compared to PSP
the sales are 44M FOR DS ,22 FOR PSPand the gap still growing not showing any sign of slowing down.not everyone intrested in graphic.most kids,femlaes and eldarly people prefer DS over PSP becuse the specfic games in DS targeting them , not ports of your ps2. i have WII near my 360 , i do not play it much but i always prefer to play it when it comes to playing it in party /group.i have psp but DS is must buy within the next few months for me.

@below:i cannot call my self hardcore gamers until i own every system and experinced the joy that every system gives.plus nintando said it targeting new audiance and it is doing it well that the argument not about me and you and what we doing.

@THE POINT NINTANDO WILL STILL SELL AS HOT CAKE THERE BUSSINES MODULE IS WORKING WITHER PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT
REMMBER THEY MAKING PROFIT IN EACH BOX EVEN IF YOU DO NOT BUY GAMES

fcuking RESPECTTTTTTT i am tired of explaining ....sh1t...

http://www.maxconsole.net/?...

[midgard229]

who cares about those people??? arent u a hardcore gamer? arent We hardcore gamers? while kids and non gamers enjoy the minigame crap, us hardcore gamers want something we can play for 5 hours a day, not 30 minutes. the wii isnt able to really do that, theres some ok games, but those games cud have been easily acheviable on the ps2, heck even the psp without use of the controller.

the wii is like a toy car, you play with it till you frow out of it and the ps3 & 360 are like real cars, pretty, strong, and its gonna last you

sorry nintendo fans, but u'll see ur self getting bored like ya did with n64 and GC, no games means ur bored.

oh and dont bring up the psp/ds thing, thats a hand held, thats WAY different, there is no next gen hand helds, and actually i dunno if u noticed but psp barley beat ds this year at e3, all ds had was Ninja gaiden DS and phantom hour glass lol

[ItsDubC]

I gave you a bubble because you actually made me laugh when you called yourself a hardcore gamer. Classic lol.

[xXheidiXx]

well im a female n i own a ps3 n a psp n they're both awsome! seriously i find the wii games too childish, im more into killer graphics n awsome story lines, and not to mention online action (resistance :) so yea this is just the begining 4 ps3, i think it'll do great :) well hopefully :D

[aiphanes]

But the Wii is gathering dust...I like the controller...but show me a updated wii-sports...because that is the only game that is good on the system. Zelda was just too hooky to play on the wii. I hate the graphics and slowness of the interface on the wii compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3. All I can do with the Wii is play some minigames...We will never see a real hardcare game...Manhunt 2 would have been cool on the Wii..but we will never see it and Metroid Prime 3 is not Halo 3 or Killzone.

Once the price of the PS3 and Xbox 360 get below $300...its all over for the wii.

The reason why the DS is so popular is because on a portable you are only playing it for like 20 mins...so minigames are what is needed on a portable...The PSP is really a PS2 in a portable shell...you can play real hardcore games on it. Show me a final fantasy game on the wii and then we can talk.

There is nothing that is next gen about the wii except for the controller.

[Rute]

Wii will have bright future as it appeals to casual gamers and non-gamers. The non-gamers and casual gamers will get more interested in games because of easily accessible hc games like SSBB, MP3 and SMG. Because of that, they may buy a more powerful console, but my guess is that most of them won't buy multiple consoles. That would lead to the situation of Wii becoming the next PS2 (large userbase -> quality software).

[GoLeafsGo]

..didn't we hear this kinda stuff with the DS?

[midgard229]

thats alot different.

now for the wii to have the largest install base, yup i can see that now, but thats only because as you say, non casual gamers and kids will own them, there are alot of children and a parent wont spend 400 on a console, but they wud 250, so thats why so many wii's are sold. second, the other part of the sales come from CHEAP people, who wanna fake that they have next gen.

GC was cheaper than the ps2 and look at what happened to the GC, if u have no games it doesnt matter if everyone has a wii, theres no one playing it. the ps3 and 360 will have people playing all hours of the day and night. sony doesnt only make their money from console sales, but from all the games that are bought in conjunction with console sales

BUT THE MAIN THING IS who gives a crap about who makes more money? who sold more consoles? im pretty sure we're gamers not advertisments. we just care if the games are good this generation, heck i wouldnt complain about the wii if there were alot of good games being made, but thats my complaint.

whoopde freakin doo for Nintendo if they made money, to bad the people who bought the wii are suffering still playing wii sports or zelda, and buying resident evil 4 again.

[rluvah]

I own a 360 Ps3 and Wii. My wife doesn't like videogames, but likes the Wii. I told her i was dissappointed in the graphics compared to the other systems, and she said "SO WHAT". I also was playing a Saturn game and my sister couldn't tell it apart from an XBOX 360 game, but she likes the Wii. Point is we care about graphics, but most causal gamers don't care about bells and whistles and thats what Nintendo is targeting. I even got my Dad to play the Wii and he is horrible at games. The Wii was easier for him to grasp. These are the People buying the Wii.

[VirusE]

I think people need to evaluate the source; dave perry has made nothing but crap since earthworm jim. He is the master of failure and obviously has no idea what gamers want out of a game. His games suck more than john romearos and get delayed even longer too. Hey Dave why don't you stop ragging on other people and get to working on a sequel to your masterpiece enter the matix.

[ItsDubC]

ROFL ouch

[MyNutsYourChin]

Niiiicccce.

[PS360WII]

Yea if the DS is a fad why is being a fad a bad thing 45 million for a fad is awesome. Every console should be hoping they are a fad.

[Illidan]

First of who is dave perry and why does it matter what he says?

Second everyone keep saying the ps3 is going to be awesome when all the good games come out like (metal gear, final fantasy and so forth) but they keep forgetting one thing Nintendo isn't going to stop making games after galaxy, brawl and corruption. They will also comes out with new games with improved graphics, better control, and new gameplay which they haven't revealed yet. While Sony and Microsoft comes out with new games Nintendo isn't going to stop. If you look at this year E3 Both Microsoft and Nintendo showed games that are coming out this year while Sony mainly showed games that are coming out in future. There are games in development for Nintendo which they haven't revealed yet.

By they way i own all 3 consoles.

[VirusE]

Dave perry made a few quality games back in genesis and snes days. He hasn't made anything of note in years. He is like trip hawkins and john romearo; a complete failure with lots of bad ideas and a big mouth.

[texism]

Seriously, who the hell is he? No one cares about your opinion because you are not famous and your games suck Dave Perry.

Also, people keep saying that the Wii's graphics suck and all that. Remember that developers haven't tapped into the Wii as well. There are still games in development for the Wii. If Corruption and Galaxy are any indication, the Wii is capable of some very fine fine graphic achievements. Developers are just being too lazy porting crap from the PS2 and the PSP to the Wii. Look at what Retro did with a ground-up game. I believe any developer that takes Wii seriously can do the same.

[texism]

Who disagreed? That's kinda stupid. It's like I said "Humans need food to live" and then someone disagrees. I stated the truth. Dumb fanboys.

[Benboy74]

Yer incase uve been in a cave the whole point of the wii was to encourage non gamers to join the gaming community. i believe they have already done this. yer the graphics may not be as good as the 360 or ps3, but its still an awsome console.
as the wii sells more they will reduce the price just as much as microsoft and sony will. thats what happens with technology. they price skim.

[uglyboglin]

You know....who really cares what system out sells another...I mean unless you work for sony or microsoft, does it honestly effect you? "hardcore" games will always be produced, systems like ps3 and xbox will always be around, so you the f**k cares....if anything it makes the industry better and more customer friendly. meaning that all 3 systems/companies will continue to come out with great new tech. and great new ideas. we won't be stuck in console limbo. besides for the most part everyone on this board bashing the wii, stated 5 months ago that the wii "fad" would end by the summer and e3??? well, ummmmmm good call......the wii isn't a fad, its a console for a different user base, get the f**k over it.

[PS-Wii-60]

The Wii, I suppose could be considered a fad. Fads are usually short lived and always fade away. I think in this case though, we just might have to redefine the word.

The Wii targets casual and non gamers. This marketing strategy has 2 important points which we need to consider:

1-Non/casual gamers don't game on a regular basis or for long periods of time. Eventually they will get bored and move on, hence the fad.
2-However, outside the hardcore/true gamer sphere will ALWAYS BE more non/casual gamers to bring into the Nintendo fold.

That's the key. A perpetual cycle of gamers, in and out of the market, with seemingly no limits.

This may very well be a "fad" with true longevity.

Nintendo has always been at the forefront of gaming. Now it seems they might just change the very foundations of the business world itself.

[bootsielon]

He made earthworm jim, one of the best platformers ever made.