Killzone 2 Vs. Gears of War

Here are some images comparing Killzone 2 to Gears of War.

[original seed]

I give the edge to Gears due to the texture of the enviorments and models plus it also looks alot sharper. Now im sure killzone still has room for improvemens since it wont be due out until 2008. However, that being said Gears is also almost 1 year old and running on an "inferior" machine as Sony Fanboys say.

So i guess since PS3 is so "Superior" the question is, Why does Gears look better?

[Lord Anubis]

because it focuses on the graphics while killzone throws you everything with more character and unique textures for the surroundings. Not a few enemies on screen.

@above, take a very look at the trailer from the moment the character lands you'll find more than 5 character.

[sjappie]

Every gameplay trailer of KZ2 that has been shown, has no more than 3 enemies on screen at a time, you can check yourselves. So if that's bad for Gears, it's bad for KZ2 to.
It's obvious it still has a way to go to outperform Gears in terms of detail and sharpness.
The KZ2 2005 trailer was pretty bright and you could see the environment. Now with the E3 trailer they start of with the flying transport to mimic the trailer, only now it's pitchblack and you can't see sh*t of the environments. Why in the hell would they show this dark gameplay trailer if they could show some nice brighter and more detailed environment. Cause they can't. The darkness is there to cover up the lack of textures and whatnot. A lot off people seem to buy it. Not me.

[sticky doja]

What video or screenshots are you looking at when refering to all of these characters? Can you send me a link because I have yet to see them myself.

[ALI G]

chainsaw Kill-shown 1 .
now let guess what shony sandboys will say:PRE PRE PRE ALPHA

yes, also by the time Kill-shown comes out Gears wil be around 2 years old built with older technology coast only $9M not $20M and still counting.plus do not forget how bad kill-shown was in the end of that level at E3, most of there time will go to polish that type of crap.

after all your BS3 is not as powefull as shony wanted us all to believe,oh..oh.. i just remember:the crap shony said about 1 level take 2gb of data.i think shony need new code makers and designers..hell they need to stop making BS3(BULLSH1T3),or if you want to call it PS3(PU5SYSTATION3), and start releasing games for WII , since they are good at making CG

EDIT:@anyprick who says gears do not have many charcter at once in screen...in chapter 1/leve2,3.../you have 3 alies highly detailed with at least 4 enemies also highly detialed,total 8 with fcuking stuning environment not a plane one

In the end of the day just remember Gears of War is old news in the 360,Which has much better games coming sooooooooooooon not 2008

[eLiNeS]

There are some areas of the game of GOW that are pretty big with lots of enemies on the screen. I would have to boot it up and see how many to be exact but theirs the three guys you roll with and one of them could be a friend in co-op, then you have the enemies, I am talking in one area where there could be 6 to 8 enemies maybe more in a large court yard setting. So right there you have 9 to 11 bodes on screen. I am not knocking Killzone, I am sure it's going to be great but please, quite with the amount of enemies on screen bit.

Why disagree? Killzone not going to be great? Whatever, at this point of time, GOW wins hands down!!!

[dantesparda]

Hm, the 2nd and 4th GOW pictures arent even in-game pictures, where did they get those shots from? GOW is old news now, and the PC version already looks alot better than the 360 version. As for Killzone, while the game does look pretty good, i am not that impressed by certain textures in it. Will wait til its out and i actually see it, before i pass judgment, but these kinds of comparisons really are just bullsh!t, as they can be easily manipulated.

Somebody please put together one of these, where GOW is being compared to Kameo, and i bet you Kameo will look better on many instances than GOW. These comparisons are bullsh!t

And to "Lowtax"
You wrote:
"You fanboy's are making video game's into tools of common bickering and debates more than an entertainment value.

God forbid if someone can admit they might actually enjoy BOTH they're treated as though something is wrong with them. All of you sony AND microsoft truckerstop tricks can piss off, stupid crap like this only divides the industry apart."

You go boy, amen to that brother. One of the true-est statements on this site

[risk]

right in the beggining of hte trailer, theres enemies shooting at u and u have like 6 allies(more?) infront of you. watch it.

[Also Known As]

"gears still better?" <~~~remember that? The answer to that quote is a resounding YES!!!!! . "I TOLD YOU SO" Now here is another quote: "sony devotees have just realized that they payed $600 for an inferior platform"

[nasim]

arent u even ashamed of posting trash.
Gears has jaggies and extremely poor textures.

KZ2 looks so realistic even at pre -alpaha.

mend ur wayy BOTS

[Heepspo]

just wait a while. Once again, xbots like to forget that their system has been out much longer. Gears looks REALLY good but with the PS3 power and it's games on bluray, it WILL eventually have noticeably better looking games... FACT.

[Captain Tuttle]

Here we go...

[gta_cb]

i had to press agree lol

[Kratosnake]

The KZ2 screenshots look like they're taken from a video render of the gameplay rather than a straight feed screenshot. You can tell if you look closely, the blurriness of the image is not in-game, it looks like codec.

something worth looking into.

[SmokeyMcBear]

well whadaya know, everything is uber shiny on gears, pretty typical of 360 games

[Lex Luthor]

well whaddya know? sh!tty colour palette on killzone2, pretty typical of ps3 games.

[gta_cb]

can i join in? or is this a 1 on 1?...

[tplarkin7]

It doesn't compare to Gears. Where are the normal maps (or parallax maps)in KZ2? You can see minute details in Gears, but KZ2 lacks detail.

[Kratosnake]

The colors are muted for a reason. The art style of KZ2 is desaturated and gritty. I always thought Gears needed that aswell. It's just way too saturated/colorful for the kind of game it is.

[xbox360migs]

Gears on the mansion level in multiplayer always astounds me when I have not played for over a week( actually any of it does through my HDTV),I have been playing this game for a year now and still am in awe over it's great visuals and of course gameplay, Epic did a great job! Killzone looks good too but Gears at the moment has the upper hand in detail, when you get close to textures in GOW they still look good, I can't see that in Killzone yet.....but things may change for the finished game, who knows, I guess we shall have to wait.

[MoonDust]

is a pic comparison.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Oh! when it's halo 3 vs killzone everyone loves it but when a comparison of the beast that is Gears of War vs kiddiezone no one wants to see it happen.

And whats amazing about gears most if not all the shots are multi-player screens. Yes!! It looks that good even in multi-player.

[Figboy]

is that when it's Halo 3 vs Gears of War, it's all

"well, they have different art styles!"

"Halo 3 is in Beta! Single player will look much better than Gears!"

the truth of the matter, is that Killzone 2 is a first person shooter, with a somber, grey visual aesthetic that suits what the developers are attempting to convey perfectly, while Gears of War is more in the vein of movies like Commando and Predator, where you blow the sh*t out of alien scum with a team of badass and ragtag soldiers by your side.

both art styles work perfectly with what they are attempting to do.

Killzone 2 is going for realistic sci fi war, and Gears of War is going for big, stylizied summer blockbuster sci fi.

it's Saving Private Ryan vs Transformers here (both are excellent films, but completely different in their tone, style, and execution).

these comparrisons, while interesting to see, ultimately lead to nothing.

what i, personally, don't understand, is that Halo 3 hits *TWO years after the 360 launched, and Gears of War hit *ONE year after the 360 launched, and Gears blows Halo 3 away. why?

if you really want to compare Gears to anything on the PS3, compare it to Unreal Tournament 3. which uses the same engine, has a very, *VERY similar art style, and, incedentally, looks fantastic on the PS3.

comparing two, or even *THREE titles that are vastly different from one another makes no sense at all.

while we're at it, lets compare MGS3 with Shadow of the Colossus. and God of War with Bioshock.

yeah, lets compare Super Mario Galaxy with Fable 2.

makes perfect sense, right? right? hello? is this thing on?

this topic is ridiculous.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Hey fig as I read your reply everything was nice until...you contradicted yourself big time.

[San anto]

why is it so plastic and shiny like in gears huaarrrrghh.. make u want to puke a lil

[Lex Luthor]

aargghh, crappy textures and sh!tty colour palette on killzone 2. i'm gonna feel sick. Can't see sh!t.

[RuffRyder]

How can anyone say killzone looks better than gears LOL?? those screens are MULTIPLAYER SCREENS and killzone still gets OWNED.

Hey Lord Anubis stop the bullsh@t!!

How many characters did you count on screen during any of the killzone trailers??? because i only saw 2-3 at atime!!!
And WTF is a unique textures lol. is that a nice way of saying the textures in killzone crap?

The truth is right there sonyfangirls, but i know ya'll still deny it LOL.

[THC CELL]

Hmg too much fanboy here

Lets go

GT5 Vs forza anyone

U all need to pack it in really
Killzone is not 100% yet

[MoonDust]

:|

[Lex Luthor]

The gears pictures are from multiplayer.

[power of Green]

GT5 vs PGR4. #6 because most are standing in the rain with better lighting?. GoW2 please!.

[risk]

yeah...GoW = God of war it came out BEFORE Gears of War find another abbreviation.

[Juevani]

there where??? have both games running next to each other when killzone lunches, and check the details moron and see how boring ur 3 hours long game will look, u can take cover behind a sofa on gears for gods sake, the enemies is so stupid that they are lookin for u and they give a damn about the other soldiers normather where u go, and dont even try bucuz I've finished the game (one morning before I got to work, I swear I woke up 6 clock and I was finished with it around 9:30) hahaand that was the 60 bux my buddie spendt on the game, hahaha.. and anyway will talk about this when Killzone lunches and will see if ur Gears Of Whores is still alive.. hahah

[ps3gogetitt]

Not even the best gears player out there finish this game in 5hrs....
But I do think killzone will have the edge when it comes out, as a matter of fact it better blow gears out of the water

[PS360PCROCKS]

3 hours my ass...atleast if your going to try and bullsh*t us atleast use a number that seems logical...3 hours lol @ Juevani...plus yes enemies who flank and use cover, god their just so darn stupid...and um you find it bad that you can take cover behind a couch? yes less things to hide behind I'm sure would be much better. Nice try.

edit:: gil thanks for the laugh lol...bubbles for being funny.

[Gil]

When Killzone "lunches", will it "dinners" a few hours later? The next morning will it "breakfastes"?

[Lowtax]

This is so dumb, why would you even compare these two games? One of them isn't even OUT yet so you toolbags haven't played it. GEARS OF WAR IS A THIRD PERSON SHOOTER!!

This isn't even a fair comparison, Jesus just leave it alone. You fanboy's are making video game's into tools of common bickering and debates more than an entertainment value.

God forbid if someone can admit they might actually enjoy BOTH they're treated as though something is wrong with them. All of you sony AND microsoft truckerstop tricks can piss off, stupid crap like this only divides the industry apart.

[utendoof]

Who the hell could have disagreed to what Lowtax said?

[sloth4urluv]

YEAH!
When KZ2 comes out it will be in 4th person and in 4D...

[P4KY B]

Its a blasphemous article on how Killzone 1.5 is inferior to a year old 360 game.

[ps3gogetitt]

They will have to do a heck of a lot to top unreal's engine, that's why I'm actually looking forward more to UT3 than kz2

[power of Green]

#9 Yep from multi player....

I hope i dont find some of you Sony fans that are in here praising KZ 2 in the KZ2 vs Halo 3 comparison thread.

[MoonDust]

But not this.

[Violater]

Todays latest edition of apples vs bananas.

[radzy]

killzone 2 is more closer comparison to gears of war than halo.
so when the comparison splashes a bucket of water in your face to wake you up from your swoon you say "apples to bananas". gears of war is still king.
it would be very hard to topple it in this generation. especially when gears of war 2 is released.
a quick reminder that the comparison is made to a 1 year old game.

" G E A R S O F W A R 2 : LOCUST CHRONICLES "

FALL 2008

[TheMART]

Killzone 2 isn't all that. Its not that sharp and Gears 2 will be out @ Christmas 2008. If Gears 1 already beats the living hell out of KZ2, Gears 2 will totally kill it.

Nice

[MoonDust]

speak.

[felidae]

so here we go ...
Actually, check out what previewers said...
"What was most striking was when they turned the post-processing effects off: the level looked almost completely different, as if it were taking place in the mid-afternoon. It's clear that while Guerilla's painterly art style is still very much in effect, it's not just the PS3 that makes the planet of Helghan look different from that of Vecta; the designers have art directed them differently as well.

When ter Heide turned the post-processing effects back on, we finally understood the uneasy feeling that the level evoked within us; their careful real-time calibration of the game's light, shadow and color--"we replace the sunnier colors with darker, grittier colors," says ter Heide--combined with the art direction and level design to create the oppressive gloom that they wanted. "The planet is meant to be hostile," said de Jonge. "The desaturated colors suit it." We hope that SCE and Guerrilla eventually release some video footage showing the difference that their post-processing effects make, because you have to see it to believe it. And from what sources in the know tell us, it's a similar special sauce that has Activision and Infinity Ward's Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare looking similarly hot."
http://blog.newsweek.com/bl...

TheMART .. you only appear when there are negative news about the ps3 ..

[ApocalypseShadow]

the only shot that looks real for gears is #1 and #3.but definitely gears looks better because of design choice.but when it comes to effects,killzone runs right over gears.

smoke effects,lighting effects,blood effects,damage effects,characters onscreen.and it's not even done yet.i'd bet more players online(i believe it's 16,but we'll see.)will happen.we know it will have more vehicles.

and the kicker

unreal engine 3 on ps3(same will be for 360 version) running better than gears of war on 360.so it comes down if you want shiny unreal look.or gritty style look.but the fact that UT3 is on ps3 kills this comparison.because 360 fanboys said gears and unreal engine 3 was IMPOSSIBLE on ps3.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

yeah but the problem is when Killzone is released it will be almost 2 years or atleast 1 and half years older and that is a long time in gaming industry. As for UE 3 doing better on PS3 now, yeah UE 3 has had a year to be optimized on all platforms, so there will be similar improvements for the engine on 360 also. Killzone must be compared with the best UE 3 game coming at the same time as it not Gears.

[Mr VideoGames]

GEARS OF WAR!!!...duh

[Frost-Wraith]

killzone 2 is the mascot of ps3 and GeOW of x360. I see no point in comparin these games as it will give rise 2more flamewars nd fanboy stuffz.

[nextgengaming18]

Only the killzone 2 images are shown on my screen.

[MoonDust]

see it?

[nextgengaming18]

Gears of war looks much better, but I wonder why guerrilla games shown such terrible pictures. They clearly could have taken better pics of the gameplay. Also, why did I get a disagree?

[Azures]

I was just watching my friend play gears yesterday, and it didn't look like that lol. Some of those shots look on par with UT3.

Down to few bubbles these days eh mart? seems your supporters are running thin.

[PS3n360]

it looks like that on my tv. samsung lcd hdtv. i still say wow when i play gears after 8 months of playing it. it is a beautiful game to play and look at. killzone2 appers to have better framerate though. graphics arent anything anyway. Games are all starting to look great this gen its cool. Cant wait to play KZ2

[sticky doja]

Or if he has one it must not be a very good one, because it looks that good on my 1080i 52" Toshiba, if not better.

[xbox360migs]

looks like that on my hdtv too I can't see why anyone could disagree with the truth..it just does look that good, can't wait for UT3 which the unreal engine has been optimized since GOW.

[Kratos_Kart2007]

Gears does look great...no if and or buts about that...

But K2 is just grittier...it looks like a warzone...madness...insanity.. .

I play Gears...I find it cartoonish.....let the Disagrees pile up on me :P

[PS360PCROCKS]

huh? Gears is way grittier looking than Killzone, all the surfaces are smooth, but it's also "pre pre alpha" according to you guys... :) but Killzone will probably look better in the end.

[SilvaSurfa]

And already knew that this thread would wreak of stupidity. Please...dont make this a 300 comment monster. Its not neccessary. There is nothing to compare at this moment. But sure enough. Their will be people that will actually use all there bubbles may it be 2 or 10 to defend there platform. People KZ looks very promising. Gears has already done a great job. Let KZ2 come out and do its thing. Your puttin alot of premature stress on this title. I dont know why. So far all I have seen is a very promising FPS in KZ2...nothing more nothing less. Promises are good but they can also be broken. This is a silly comarison. Gears was great...KZ2 shaping up to be great. Leave it at that.

[Omega Kaze]

As much as I like xbox 360 over the ps3 they both look like fantastic games. I havent played killzone 2, and neither has anyone else. So its hard to say that Killzone looks way better because its hard to tell whats really going on in the game (thats still unfinished) yet.

Gears was a fantastic game with its own unique visual qualities to it as well. There is little point to arguing which looks better or what system is better because in the end we (as gamers) are getting better games. So why fight over something that we could just try to enjoy?

[felidae]

Actually, check out what previewers said...
"What was most striking was when they turned the post-processing effects off: the level looked almost completely different, as if it were taking place in the mid-afternoon. It's clear that while Guerilla's painterly art style is still very much in effect, it's not just the PS3 that makes the planet of Helghan look different from that of Vecta; the designers have art directed them differently as well.

When ter Heide turned the post-processing effects back on, we finally understood the uneasy feeling that the level evoked within us; their careful real-time calibration of the game's light, shadow and color--"we replace the sunnier colors with darker, grittier colors," says ter Heide--combined with the art direction and level design to create the oppressive gloom that they wanted. "The planet is meant to be hostile," said de Jonge. "The desaturated colors suit it." We hope that SCE and Guerrilla eventually release some video footage showing the difference that their post-processing effects make, because you have to see it to believe it. And from what sources in the know tell us, it's a similar special sauce that has Activision and Infinity Ward's Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare looking similarly hot."
http://blog.newsweek.com/bl...

[sjappie]

why don't they show us that footage?

[PSN Starfleets]

I thought KillZone 2 looked better other than that last image.

[Says you]

Unlike Gears of War that can handle only 3 enemies one at a time let alone 6 enemies at one time like Killzone 2 can and besides are you blind both of these games are using two different engines Gears of War is using Unreal Engine 3 and Killzone 2 is using its own Engine and plus the blood in Gears of War is not even close to being realistic as the blood in Killzone 2 are and of course theMart is a dimwit that hes talking crap thinking he knows what he's talking about not even Gears of War 2 would beat Killzone 2 when the comming days, when Killzone 2 comes out

and plus if you see both of them in motion Gears of War is crap! and killzone 2 is way better and again it seems that people have for gotten that Guerrilla wanted to make this stage look like hell and of course when the people that was interviewing Guerrila they wanted to know why everything was so dark and they said they wanted to look like that and than they showed the people that is interviewing them turned the post processing and when they showed it everything look all great.

[Azures]

Killzone 2's praise comes from the overall realism presented with months still left for development. KZ2 can create a real war zone.

[Auron]

I'll just enjoy both games thankyou.

[SquallSK]

KZ2 looks more movie like imho ... Gears with PC-like sharp graphic doesn´t look much better now (KZ2 pics are just pre-pre alpha pics)

[Lowtax]

Wow I'm amazed like I think I need to accept the fact that no matter what I say people will still be enormous douchemagoo's. WHY. WHY.

why.

What is the point of this argument? Jesus tittylick Christ I don't think an opinion is even an opinion anymore, it's all just fact. So this is my new revelation; A 360 and a PS3 game will fight to the death via fan fatal point by point stupid talk. When the smoke clears and the victor stand atop his defeat inferior opponents case which has been desecrated and defecated upon, Kim Jong Ill will invite you to his Myspace because now YOU are the coolest kid ever. YOU SIRS HAVE BROUGHT THE CONSOLE WAR TO AN END.

COMPARING PICTURES BY GOD, IT'S BRILLIANT! I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A CLEVER COUP! It's so clever that I want to burn both my PS3 AND my 360, VIDEO TAPE IT, and masterbate furiously as I choke myself with my wiimote and nunchuck.

Go to hell, all of you.

[TruthHurts]

a FPS to a Third person game.

again, HALO vs. KILLZONE (their both not out yet)
cause both are the STAND OUT fps`s of these systems.

lets compare KILLZONE to KATAMARI?

KILLZONE 2 vs. HALO3, or just keep quiet.

[Daz]

The same could be said about killzone vs halo they are totally different art styles how can you compare theM you cant. So gears and killzone are the same gritty style so it much easier to compare. so what your saying dont make sence

[Hell-Reaver]

Make the comparison when the games's on the store shelves. Then it's a true comparison.

Both games look fantastic in their current forms. Gears is a great game, the graphhics have set the bar very high! i'd love to have it.

KZ2 is going to be an instant buy for me. I like the look of it in pre-alpha, this game is going to look great when it's a finished product.

[MoonDust]

It's not going to stop them now.

[kornbeaner]

am gonna give the edge to Gears of War. Mainly because it is a finished product. I can play it now if I wanted to. While overall the I think the package might be better in Killzone2, the textures need to be fixed as well as some graphical effect such as fire and lighting. The graphics seem to be more ambitious in Killzone2 but as of right now ( I know it's a pre-alpha build) they don't have that spit shine the Gears has shown.

[Captain Tuttle]

I'll give you a bubble for breaking the mold.

[teh_tourist]

gears wins for the simple fact of all the shiny stuff. but it gives me a headache after some multiplayer matches, i'm sure when killzone 2 is done it will be sharper

[xg-ei8ht]

Day Shadow explained it pretty well.

Gears is without doubt a sweet looking game. There's no denying that.

But your really comparing two different engines and two different styles.

One is using the unreal engine, and the other, well i don't even know the name of it, someone here does, they can fill that in later.

Point is, Unreal 3 engine is middleware. And is used in alot of games.

And will continue to do so, kinda of like Quake3 Engine, used in many games.

Epic games has already said, UT is looking better and running better then Gears of war on ps3. And thats from the devs. That should tell you something.

As said above g.o.w is a great looking game, And i'm sure Kilzone 2 will be also.

I'd actually like to see other maps, daytime etc, in killzone 2, would be alot easier to judge at this momment in time.

Not sure what is meant by colour palette talk. Have u seen rachet and clank, Uncharted?

Arguing about colour,lmao

[Odion]

Lol i just listen to that interview with Mark Riegn where he talks about the whole Unreal thing, in context what he is saying is that this point in development the game is more finished hence running better. It has nothing to do with actual performance.

P.S. gears looks amazing, and if you have ever played it you'd know you can have close to 20 enemies on the screen at once, just go and play Act 4 Chapter 1 to see it.

[zonetrooper5]

Yeh Gears of War does look better, Killzone 2 looks like it has too much blur and grain effect to cover up alot of stuff.

[Azurite]

Wonder how many NPCs/Players can be on the same map in Killzone2.

Gears of War is 8, right?

[sticky doja]

GoW multiplayer can have a max of 8 players per game.

[power of Green]

Nothing shown was on the level of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. lol

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Totally agree. CoD4 looked to be the best all around game to me.

KZ2 textures need MAJOR work.
As it stands, GeoW looks better to me.

[gogeta242]

I don't see the big deal with COD4, it doesn't look that much better than COD3. It certainly is a ways away from Killzone 2.

[Blankman]

Both of them have excellent graphics. It is not essential to have grainy textures to have solid graphics. Both of them have excellent graphics but i have to say in over all detail i would have to give it to gears of war but its real close because at least i have seen that in motion and i know gears dosent look that good in motion. Plus its all about the art style Kzone has its style gears has its own style. KZ takes the cake for lighting and character animation but in over all detail i would give it to gears but like i said real close

[boi]

Well lets see Gears or Killzone 2...ermmm Killzone is not a finished game and its not comparable to Gears because well its in a different timezone...

anyways Gears was a great game and Killzone well not a finished product but I feel it will be great too...

[Scions Wrath]

1. Killzone 2 is not out until 2008 so you're not looking at the final product.
2. It's ok to use 'pictures' to show off these games but when in motion Killzone 2 animation wins easily - INGAME.
3. Gears of War released in late 2006 so your looking at a game that is finished, compared to a game that we won't see in final form until 2008.

KILLZONE 2 WINS.

[PS360PCROCKS]

it goes both ways buddy...

[MyNutsYourChin]

Arguing about which game looks better is akin to arguing about the image quality of a picture taken by two different prefessional photographers. It's all a matter of perception and psychological persuasion.

There is no significant notable difference between the two games. They both look outstanding. If any argument should be made it should be about the gameplay since these two games are graphically similar and thus graphically incomparable.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I'll enjoy em both also...anyways Gears looks better than an unfinished game, ok cool. What I noticed, more more and way more textures in Gears, very gritty, and Killzone is really alot cleaner and everything is really smooth, character models are much better in Gears (Killzone has really good facial models up close though, on par with Gears) this is a very premature comparison though and to anyone who said it's unfair to compare these it's how people feel when you compare Halo 3 to KZ2, totally different game. But atleast here someone is picking the two best looking, not just the two most popular...but as of now, Gears wins.

[Rhezin]

lol I knew it all along, Gears comes out on top once again, LOL and this is the first gears. The first killzone sucked ass and K2 looks good but not as good as gears 1, now imagine GEARS OF WAR 2!

[Huddymonster]

If you guys are comparing Gears to Killzone and Killzone is in pre pre alpha than I think PS3 is in good SHAPE !!!1

[Azures]

I'd much rather compare videos of each game in action. Lets see how much more is going on in the Killzone battlefield compared to GoW.

KZ2 also presents a new level of realism for war games, i expect it to look close to a real life battlefield when completed.

[_insane_cobra]

Both gorgeous. The end.

[power of Green]

Lets wait an see what KZ2 looks like in the end we don't know if its showing was more smoke and mirrors in some fashion or another theres no way to prove what the devs/Sony are saying is true.

Personally I think what was shown was almost complete or was built for E3 while the real games is actually in pre alpha.

EDIT: #52 no birds in geow!.

#57 I'm sure the 360 version of UT3 will look better than GeOw also.

EDIT: DJ did you say "live demo"...

[tjd211]

killzone looks more realistic than gear of war. the whole enviroment looks like its been covered in gease.

[Eagle_CFC]

Seriously, completed it loved it. I WILL NEVER BE A FANBOY.

It is only fair that I point out something. Looking at peoples screen grabs and even the direct feed video of Killzone 2 does nothing to compare to watching the trailer from the Playstation Network via HDMI in 1080p on my PS3. Trust me, it is not simply 'dark' there is a lot of detail that these videos and screengrabs will not do justice. My hunch would be that the GoW grabs are porfessionally taken which helps but that's not say that these aren't multiplayer screenshots cause they are I recgonise the mansion map, and yes it does look 'that good'.

Having seen both running in full HD they both look amazing in their own way, each has a style to it that is art in itself.

[Daz]

Fanboys wont say there both good, thats the trouble to them only one can be good and the other crap which is sad i think.

[gogeta242]

Killzone 2 looks a hell of a lot better than Gears. At IGN, they mistook Killzone 2 gameplay for CG. Just stop it, okay, Gears can't be the best looking console game forever. Games get better over time. Get over it. Uncharted looks better than Gears as well. Gears is a fantastic looking game but move on.

[fopums]

couldnt we at least waited until the game is finsihed? but if we cant fine I can still compare.

KZ2 has better character animations, better physic's, destructible enviroments, larger weapon variety *going off of KZ1 and liberation* better blood effect's and character deaths, and a larger variety of enemies.

Gears has better textures......some pretty new ideas as far as weapon design went and john dimaggio. remember there is more to a game than graphics, and KZ2's are very good as is

Atmospher plays a huge role as well, I havent heard enough of the audio to compare soundtracks but the Helghast have GREAT combat dialog, second only to the grunts of Halo.

"No not Johnson! he was just a boy!"

[Bazookajoe_83]

These are two completely diffrent games in completely diffrent stages. Gears has a shiny arstistic touch to it while killzone 2 has a darker more of a realistic look to it. Gears is a third person shooter and killzone 2 is a first person shooter. Gears have been out for a year (dont know exactly) and killzone 2 will come out in 6 month (no exact date). Gears is a very good game with both good gameplay and graf, killzone 2 is without a doubth a good looking game with hopefully realy good gameplay. I own both a 360 and a ps3, so i dont take side in this war because you can´t compare them until they are both out... Pizza is better than hamburger =P

[CrazzyMan]

http://i113.photobucket.com... :)
i like what i see. =)

also ps3 gets UT3, which has better graphics then geow. =)
screens - http://www.beyondunreal.com...

[Takumi86]

1st of all you can't comepare to deffirent engines
2nd of all kilzzone is FPS GeOw is A 3rd person shooter
3rd of all killzone will have tons of enemies on the screen destructuble enviroment , more stuff going on the screen , Gears is a finish game we already know what it offer no destructuble enviroment,less stuff going on the screen , less enemies,
4th of all killzone 2 still in development not yet release
5th of all if you want the best grafix go play RACHET AND CLANK yah you know wat im talking about CG Quality did you guys see how many stuff going the screen see how many enemies how destructuble is the enviroment damn PS3 your a steal free online , home sweet home , bluray
home web browser , games that are worth buying for , damn what more can you ASK?? PLAY BEYOND

[Takumi86]

BUBBLES PLZ ...

[FirstknighT]

Looks like the 360 will still have the best looking game to date. All that manpower, money, and development time of Killzone 2 and it can't even beat Gears of War. Good job Microsoft! :)

[gogeta242]

get some damn glasses, thats all I have to say.

[MasterX]

like I said...form me... it looks like kz2 use a the black engine...

[gogeta242]

All of you guys saying Gears looks better can save it for someone thats blind, seriously.

[DJ]

in motion for both titles, but these screens definitely give Killzone the nod. The lack of aliasing in Gears bugged me a lot (screens prove this), as well as the low-poly counts that ended up hindering the facial animation. Gears had piss-poor texture quality in the environments, but Epic used extensive Normal Mapping to cover that up, which was really smart. I'm surprised that a side-by-side video comparison hasn't been done, because Killzone 2 slaughters every other title out there when shown in motion.

What puzzles me is that people like Power of Green still can't accept that Killzone 2 exists in playable form. They still see the live demo that was played by many journalists as being "smoke and mirrors".

[simplemetry]

i got ps3 but it seems to me that gears of war is better lookin... its comin out on pc.. so i should get it...

[UltimateGamer230823]

holy crap.
for once it would be great if people would wait for the game to be released before everyone jumps to conclusions and starts getting all worked up. honestly, screenshots arn't the most reliable thing to go off of. wait till you are actually playing the game and decide. i remeber some of the first gears screens didnt look as well as they did when i finally played the game. so cool down, play some gears on live, and wait for killzone 2 as a final product in your living room. then decide.

and honesly. gears was a short game. didnt take very long for me and my buddy to finish it. if there wasnt xbox live i would be pissed cuz i would of not had anything to do.

[MasterX]

But then again.. Gears dose look better.. tome will show...

[Ebay3rd]

They seriously need to make a flame section for PS3 vs 360 battles, this is getting old...

[Loudninja]

Ok let me get htis right, yopu comapre a finsh Third person shooter, to a pre aplah unfinsh FPS, thats liek 8 motnhs away?.good job Man fanboys

[achira]

lol, killzone 2 is easy a lot better. hahaha poor xbots.

[zonetrooper5]

Have you played Gears of War DJ? It does have AA and the textures looks great, as for Killzone 2 being pre pre alpha, please give it a break, would they still be at the drawing board about 2 years? and is that the only level they made?

It is probaly approaching an internal Beta if they intend to release in 2008.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

What he just said, bubbles for you my friend!

[CrazzyMan]

Posted by TimSweeney
Jacob- Will UE3.0 support predicated tiling to make use of 4xAA on Xbox 360?

Sweeney- Gears of War runs natively at 1280x720p without multisampling. MSAA performance doesn't scale well to next-generation deferred rendering techniques, which UE3 uses extensively for shadowing, particle systems, and fog.

Posted by CliffyB
We’re going to have some terrific motion blur and depth of field, but
there probably won’t be Full Scene Anti-Aliasing. We’ll do things
that’ll give us a similar effect, but again we’re speaking on the
engine side of things so it’s not really my department. I’m not a big
fan of jaggies though, so we’ll do whatever we can to get rid of those.

[DJ]

because I sat down and played it with my friend. The levels were extremely linear, the textures were muddy (I could tell because I saw a few of them loading before the detailed normal maps showed up in one instance), the low polygon counts negatively affected the facial animation, etc, etc. The aliasing was pretty bad too, though there seemed to be varying levels of it.

The things I did like were the camera, since it swoops down and rattles when you run for cover, and the amount of work that Epic put into the normal mapping was really admirable. The framerate dipped from time to time, but it was a definite improvement over the alpha versions we saw a while back. It basically felt like Epic was constantly being held back by the hardware.

[Ghoul]

For me both look awesome

only with the slight advantage that gears is finished and killzon2 has much more develop time so it will most likely look superior when finsihed.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

Gears Of War looks better hands down! ALSO, stop with all the pre-alpha and alpha bullcrap too! Killzone 2 has been in development for the same ammount of time that gears has, so don`t believe sony and their devs about pre-alpha! Gears was in it`s alpha stages at E3 05! Here we are 2 years later and this game is still pre alpha, alpha my azz! This game should have been out already! Sheesh, even Halo 3 is coming out before this game for crying out loud! This game is actually beta, trust me. How is it that the game was in alpha stages at E3 05 and here we are 2 years later and it`s now pre-alpha?! Remember that sony employee that got fired said that Killzone 2 looked like sh!t about a year ago?! Unreal Tournament 3 was started after Killzone 2 and it`s basically finished for all platforms with the XBOX 360 version coming 2/1/08! So why is it that Gears and UT3 BOTH look better than Killzone 2?! UT3 isn`t alpha so why in the hell should Killzone 2 be?! Now don`t get me wrong, Killzone 2 looks great, hope the gameplay will match this time too! But don`t believe all of the pre alpha and alpha bullcrap. That game is in it`s beta stage!!! Remember who`s telling us it`s pre-alpha SONY! the same people who said it was real time at E3 05 LOL! Now if you disagree say why. And don`t take peoples bubbles for saying their opinion. Just think about it, how is a game still alpha for over 2 years?!

[fenderputty]

The devs have stated it. You guys held to your beta reasons for Halo ... I don't see your logic. You're comparing a game that isn't even in BETA stage to a game that's out. Not only is gears out but, it's the best looking thing out. Yeah ... that's a FAIR comparison ... riiiiiiight.

you 360 fanboys really are grasping at straws.

[EDF 2017]

There is no way it is pre-alpha. What are all their developers autistic? I assure you it is in beta, there is no such thing as pre-alpha in development. It's beta, and will barely look better upon release. So sony droids don't hold your breath about it looking better than gears much less a third party game like bioshock or call of duty 4.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

couldn`t have said it better EDF, have a bubble on me LOL!

[fenderputty]

... what part of ALPHA did you think was a lie? The "pre" part. This is coming from the mouth of the dev. YOu guys can think what you want but, it's not changing the fact that when this game comes out it's going to look A LOT better. Keep grasping though. You might just convince your delusional selves.

[Sangheili85]

Devs said it was Pre Pre Alpha... God... lol I don't believe that whole "It's only Pre Pre Alpha" Sony just didn't wanna say beta or even alpha. They wanted to get the peoples feedback first. Imagine if they said "This is beta!" it looks good but people might have very mixed opinions. From seeing alot of games and dev videos a Pre Alpha let alone a Pre Pre Alpha is normally just the engine am i wrong? i mean Alpha is engine development. Beta is graphics and polish. I could be wrong but thats what i have picked up. I'm not saying Killzone sucks or looks bad by all means no. It looks great and has a lot of potential. Just remember who's saying it the Devs and who owns them? Sony the same people who have lied before. Don't get me wrong everyone lies but Sony has done it alot. I have some faith for this game that it will look really really amazing i just want the actual gameplay to live up to the hype. I was never impressed by the first one.

[fe10]

Gear of wars looks better and I bet it's gameplay is better.

[fenderputty]

Remeber that lame thread comparing Resistance to the Beta of Halo? You 360 fantards are comparing the best looking game there is out to an ALPHA build of a game not released for at least 8 months. Some hypocritical motherfalkers in here.

The best part about this is, there are aspects of Killzone that wipe the floor with gears. Destructible environments, animations, enimies react to where they are shot, more enemies on screen, and it's in FPS view.

Once the game finishes, lets do this again. At least then it's a FAIR comparison. As of now all this is, is an attempt at making yourselves feel better about this monster of a game coming out. I can't wait to see the added textures in the beta build. Even then there will be some room for improvement. You guys are grasping at straws and it's obvious. Pathetic really.

[redmamoth]

Have a bubble on me!

This game is miles away from completion and will whipe the floor with Gears once its complete! Plus, we will already have the Unreal Engine running far better on our Shiny, Reliable PS3's by then with UT3!!

Been on Holiday and just got back to see ALL the PS3 stuff, Sony really came though this time (for a change). I'd hate to own a 360 right now, one hell of expensive door stop!!!

[ERommel]

FPS vs. A third person shooter. Apples to Apples people. I have noticed playing both systems that the X360 does have more vibrant colors. That does not make it nicer to look all the time. Sometimes the games can look cartoony. Take Quake 4. Much brighter than what I have seen from Killzone 2 but that does not mean it looks better. Gears is fantastic. Killzone will be as well. Halo 3 no interest just becuase it's not wicked enough for my tastes. So let the good times roll.

[EDF 2017]

Killzone 2 doesn't have a chance. No real-time lighting, no normal maps or parallax maps. Blurry textures in killzone 2 what is it rendered at 640 X 480 then upscaled? Looks like it to me, Gears is still king of the hill and will be till Unreal Tournament 3.

[Daz]

My bubbels keep being tacken for what lol bloody fanboys .
THis site is so sh1t now because of fanboys.
Fanboys cant play others games only on there god of machine, if they say they do play on the other system they will say all the games are sh1t anyway which they are totally wrong im sure they are all 10 years olds with small brains.

[MasterX]

Hehe.. I gave you a pluss SDS Gamerfiend.. a geat comment--- pre alpha.. my @ss

[kewlkat007]

Gears of War wins right now because it is a finished product. Of course you have to give some credit to the "unreal engine", since I'm not sure what GG is using for KZ 2, but after like 3 years of work and over 100 million, when the game comes out, it better look "UNREAL".

1. Killzone 2, while on Pre Pre alpha, or whatever stage it's in, they have like 6 months before they start making last minute touches. To this day I still ask myself why a game, not even in Alpha stages after like 2 years. The first time I've heard of "PRE PRE ALPHA", I swear. Especially when the game releases in like 6-9 months. That's almost another year. Something fishy here, but whatever.

2. While it's fair to say KZ2 is not there yet, but some continue to look at them pics and swear it's looking great. That's just ludacris. Also, I can't look at Halo and compare to this since, well, the colors are so different, I just can't. Gameplay will be the most important here, between halo series and KZ. For KZ, that's wait to be seen.

3. On a side note: For some that say Gears of War looks better on the xbox 360, well are we forgeting that, unlike Kill Zone 2, the PC will also be getting Gears of war, so hands down, GEARS will always look/run better on a $3000 rig, with 8800GTX, 4 gigs RAM, DX10 machine. Thats FACT, and the disperities between PC's and Consoles, will only widen.

4. KZ 2 looks good on whatever Alpha version it's on.(stil confused)
Gears looks great since I have played, enjoyed and beaten it. Gamers that comment about GEARS, well their points are so much more valid because, well, the game has been out and played. I just can't say the same for KZ2 besides these pics that still, to me, look like a WW2 shooter. I give credit when it's due but for a game that is (work in progress), sh!t it is not close to being great.

Whoever said they beat GEARS in 3hrs, I wanna see the Video on YOUTUBE. Don't you wanna brag and want Credit for your hard work?

[fopums]

and they should, KZ2 is far from finished but becuase its garnered a lot of hype people want to compare it to other things.

and yes this bubble business is ridiculous, I see no disagrees with my previous post but I lost a bubble anyhow. If someone could replace it I would certainley appreciate it.

[BADBOYEK4]

came out the PS3 fans did a picture comparison with Halo 3 beta and RFOM and Halo 3 looked better.Now that Killzone is in Beta and being compared to GEARS of WAR its not fair to the PS3 fans.PS Killzone is not PRE PRE ALPA its BETA if it was PRE PRE ALPA it would not be playable.

[Hooby]

People saying KZ2 is "stylized", well so is Halo 3, but that doesn't stop you from bashing on its graphics all to hell.

These next gen games all look friggin great. They all look different because no one developer is the same. The are all artists in a sense, and they all have different ideas of what looks good, at least for their games. Can we stop bashing on graphics and instead, compare the important thing: gameplay. We play games because of...gameplay. We haven't really played halo 3 in all its glory, or any of KZ2, so lets just wait until they come out to say "KZ2 kiks halo 3s azz and don't deny it xbots!!" ir whatever, just wait to play the games. We don't judge a games dominance over another on simply graphics.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

That`s what it`s all about! GAMEPLAY! Who wants to play a game that sucks no matter how good it looks?! Keep talking, have a bubble on the house LOL!

[Scions Wrath]

Go and watch KILLZONE 2 'in-game' 'gameplay footage'. {from E3 2007}
THEN! Go and watch Gears Of War 'in-game' 'gameplay' footage.

Killzone 2 easily wins overall. You'll see for yourself.

Funny thing is though is that unreal tournament 3, and Call Of Duty 4 can arguably look better than Gears of War.

So please whoever visits this article just go and see for yourself and save yourself from all the fanboy rubbish.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Than make a comparison video.

[Hooby]

Wins overall in what precisely?

Don't tell me all the sony boys are no longer judging entire friggin games on graphics alone?

[hiphopisdead]

These 2 games are perfect to compare if you want to compare graphics and gameplay/annimation. And I dont want to use the "pre-pre alpha" excuse for KZ2, because if this version of KZ was the FINAL version, it would still be the most superior looking game out.

I havn't read anyone say this, but this comparison is not a good comparison because of the following reasons:

-screenshots are not shown at full resolution. I can go to ign, pull up these screenshots, and at full resolution, I'll notice more imperfections(i.e. in GOW). But, it's obvious people dont want to do that for them selves. "textures are better and textures are sharper". Yeah, textures in Resident Evil 1 were good, but they were static!. Yeah, you'd have the occational flickering light effect the brightness of te texture, but that's about it. Just because there is more detail in the texture, doesn't mean it is clearer (i.e. in GOW, you have aliasing issues - jaggies). Dont focus on the texture... at lower resolutions... else, Resident Evil 1/2 would be compared to GOW.

-screenshot comparisons are not fairly comparible. all of the KZ2 pics are from the actual view of while you are playing (from behind the gun). if you want to compare the second and last pictures of GOW to something in KZ2 (ingame cinematic scene), compare it to screens from the beginning of the trailer... when you see the characters up close... when the ship is getting closer to the ground and you are landing...

If you do the above, it will be more clear how much further ahead Killzone 2 is graphically than GOW. And if you are an xbox fan boy, then it'll be that much harder for your to honestly admit.

Also, do another comparison. Now let's compare explosions, fire, smoke. (you might also have to do this with video, although the stills of each of the above would also look better in KZ2). Let's compare how the enemies react when hit by bullets (yes GOW enemies react to bullets, but in KZ2 they react way better).

Hey, I admitted, and told my xbox buddy to get GOW when it came out because it looked the best. But now, I want xbox fans to sit back and now say to their ps3 buddies, to get KZ2 because it looks the best.

It's amazing that GOW has been out for a looong time, and there are many screenshots available on the net. And the ones chosen were scaled down in res, 50% of them where not actually while playing (in-game, but not from behind the view of the character), and another screenshot was the blurriest part of the game.

You cannot refuse that each of the KZ2 screenshots reflect a typical gameplay shot 90% of what you saw in the trailer (10% would be stuff you saw while they were flying in the craft in the beginning), but only 1 pic of the GOW screens show a typical gameplay shot (the third screenshot).

Please, dont give anymore the excuse of "pre-pre alpha", or "alpha" version... and this game will be much better in a few months...

THE GAME, AS IT WAS SHOWN, IF IT WERE RELEASED RIGHT NOW, VISUALLY, WOULD BE THE BEST LOOKING GAME TO DATE.

PERIOD.

[LiquifiedArt]

Seeing as how this is the article ever. comparing a GOLD game to an unfinished one.

But nextly, Xbox people "BOAST" about Gears of War?? Why Firstly its the BEST you'll EVER see on the XBOX, NExtly, its by a 3rd PARTY DEVELOPER HAHAAHA. i mean seriously guys. YOur drowning in your own stupidity. The Life of XBOX revolves around EPIC. too bad UNREAL Looks better then Gears. and then what? OH yea and PLAYS WAYyyyyyyyyyy better.

I could care less about EPIC. Lets see what each consoles FIRST party can do. lol. lamers

[Hooby]

Comparing games based on graphics is retarded. Why don't we call them graphics instead of games.

Hey, I'm going to pick up this new graphics called killzone 2 later today...

foolish.

[Cartesian3D]

First: UT3 use same engine and has same art styel and its run better on PS3 right now in this stage of development.. and will be EVEN better in final version ( more optimizing )

Second : KILLZONE is FAR more realistic than Gears, may be someone say Ratchet and clank is far more beautiful but we must talk about REALISTIC environment..

distructible world , realtime physics , animations and etc..

I love Gears,Killzone,Ratchet and clank .. in term of DETAILS and REALITY I think there is no competitor for KILLZONE , killzone is almost CG in my eyes..

Compare UNCHARTED to GEARS , or UT3 ps3 version to GEARS.

Peter moore saw Killzone trailer and then quit MS , because he wants KILLZONE lol

[ALI G]

UT3 ps3 version to GEARS
do not :spare UT3 PS3 until next year when it comes to 360,than we will have a chance to see how ports from PS3 TO 360 WORKS.we already sAW the outcome of games ported to PS3.

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@BELOW/Cartesian3D :hehee...first get your fact right , he said
UT3 now running better on PS3 than Gears on 360 last year

UT3 NOT UNREAL ENGINE

EPIC made GoW last year and nodoubt when they make another game with the same engine ,they will go forward with the technology, via optmization, not backward ... commen scence ...USE it...

[Cartesian3D]

its not so hard to understand..

in STILL image u must compare UNCHARTED to GEARs..cuz of no disructible world , and another reason is Uncharted is more near to final version than KZ (Pre-alpha) so textures are near final...

but in motion for sure u cant find ANY GAME like KILLZONE.. .. and about UT3

:) Im waiting too , to see How it works on 360.. but NOW , repeat after me NOW : EPIC SAID UNREAL ENGINE WORKS BETTER THAN GEARS RIGHT NOW ..

I know 360 fans had a bad week , but u must believe that u cant stop GOOD NEWS for others, dont bash others because its good for them and bad for u .. deal with it..

[THC CELL]

I think Gears and killzone will be a good fight

The winner is unknown till Killzone is 100% completed.

After gears 2 u may see a better story or longer but i don't think u will see better graphics.

Thats what i think anyways

[popup]

A picture says a thousand words...

(Gears has amazing textures)

A video says a thousand pictures.

(KZII had amazing atmosphere)

The again, Tiger Woods is a better Golfing game than both.

[Ghoul]

bubble for you :)

you pinned it with that comment.

altough i think that Motorstorm does way better on citybuilding
then forza on character animations

[bootsielon]

And as someone said above, the images aren't direct feed from the killzone game, it looks as if they were taken from some low quality video.

[smart_head]

...look at the gametrailers.com review of Gears of War and compare the HD video to the recently released HD Killzone 2 video. I've just done that and both games seem to have quite different art style and camera motion techniques. And to be honest, both games look about the same quality to me (considering Killzone is still in pre-alpha phase), although Killzone 2 appears to have higher resolution textures on character models but not the walls, etc. probably 'cause it's not out yet and there's still months left before it goes gold. Gears of War clearly has a lot of normal mapped textures, which make the environments look more detailed. But I'm sure Killzone will get there eventually. So all in all, both games are equally better and have excellent graphics.

Have I earned bubbles now? lol

[Anything but Cute]

Just look at the first screen shot, which looks more real? The Killzone character animation of someone reacting to being shot or that Gears Of War guy who has blood coming out all over and is still standing up straight?

I choose 2 of the Gears of War screen shots and 2 of the Killzone screen shots. One of the Gears Screen shots is questionable to me. The last one, I played the game and I don't remember the game ever looking like that during gameplay.

[Kleptic]

yeah Cliffy was even commenting on that in that interview at E3...on how awesome the hit detection is in KZ2...and how the Unreal Engine 3.0 could never touch that (he did go on about how impressive the UE 3.0 can do environments though)...he was saying that it was the most impressive use of rag dolls and pre-determined animations combined he had ever seen...that is what makes those helghast deaths undeniably awesome looking...that is the main thing that really caught me in the trailers...

[kingholmes]

all i know is that Killzone 2 in not even close to done and looks good as gow that right there tells me which one look better KILLZONE 2 is winning in my book. it be better to look at gow on PC cause u know ever game on 360 is on pc.but too make it fairer i would look at Killzone for ps3 and Gears of war on PC.i mean i know killzone still looks better but hey its something.

[Anything but Cute]

I played Gears of War, never does the game look like that during gameplay. Anyone who has played the game knows that.

[Cartesian3D]

Killzone looks more real than anythin in console games , But I dont know why 360 fans come to this news to find any good sign from this one..

anyway after E3 I feel so much better about "KILLZONE" word..

and now I can use it as an REALITY ICON in gaming world.. like Crysis

[Kleptic]

why do people keep bringing this up? Epic already has a game that will be out this year, that we can already tell looks better than Gears...It is just odd to me that so many people think that Gears of War will never be beaten graphically on a console...

while I am not buying the pre pre alpha bit that a lot are saying about KZ2...and I do agree that Gears is a fantastic looking game, that KZ2 is still behind at this point...it is also quite obvious that KZ2 is far from complete...with obvious clipping isues, animation glitches at times, and poor textures...why some of you believe that none of these issues will be addressed before release is beyond me...but bash it while you can I guess...

but at least understand that it won't be KZ2 that dethrones your precious Gears...UT3 will be Epic's flagship for years to come...the people that won't shut up about how the PS3 is garbage and can't do anything close to gears will see for themselves in a couple of months...

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

A finish game vs a unfinshed game...and the unfinshed game is that close to the finish game...its as simple as that..

[headblackman]

gears of war out shines the competition by far. and it's only going to get much better as we go along in time and console experience grows. gears of war's just a glimps of what the xbox360 can push out. just like with the ps3's hardware games will get better and look better as they get to undrstand the hardware, but no one said that they've totally figured out what the xbox360 can do. all they've said was the the xbox360 has better development tools wich adds for easier game development (unlike the ps3)but never once have you read anyonewhere were some developer has said that we've used the xbox360 to it's fulliest potential and extent

[utendoof]

Articles like these should have never been appoved. KZ2 isn't even finished, all of these comparisions are based on the very few videos and screenshots of KZ2. GOW has been out for awhile.Idiotic comparisons like these fuel the flame war between xbox fanboys and playstation fanboys. GOW looks great and KZ2 will probably look great. You fanboys are at each others throuts for the stupidest reasons. Can't we all agree that Jack Thompson is a jackass.

[utendoof]

Articles like these should have never been appoved. KZ2 isn't even finished, all of these comparisions are based on the very few videos and screenshots of KZ2. GOW has been out for awhile.Idiotic comparisons like these fuel the flame war between xbox fanboys and playstation fanboys. GOW looks great and KZ2 will probably look great. You fanboys are at each others throuts for the stupidest reasons. Can't we all agree that Jack Thompson is a jackass.

[CaliGamer]

But I think a lot of you are forgetting a few of the things we do not know from this picture comparison that could affect the fairness of this analysis. First of all we do not know the type of display each was taken on, the fair thing would be to get one type of TV and test them both, we do not know as stated by someone above what type of look they were going for in KZ2 and that could have a dramatic difference in the way a game looks, not to mention that would be a big difference between a screen capture in a press conference, and one that could be done at leisure of a finished game, i.e. prep time for GOW to get the best shot off of a HDTV rather than off a projection monitor during a presentation. As some of you pointed out already, they still have a lot to implement in the game in terms of effects, etc. that could affect the final look of the game dramatically.
As I am sure that the people who really want a true comparison already thought of the issues I raised above as well as a few more, I will leave it at that for now. I am sure that the detractors don't want to hear this and it will go overlooked in the attempts to flame, but I hope that comments like this as well as the few other people I see trying to make this site as informative as possible help keep the conversation and debate a bit more intelligent.
Game on......

[mighty_douche]

right your comparing a FINISHED game to a game that still has 6 months development to go! they're not even the same genre, one is FPS and one is 3rd PERSON, and in my opinion if you playing a game solely for its graphics then 1. you a sad git and 2. go buy a PC!

[ShiftyLookingCow]

stupid LAME fLAME wars, all I have to say: Duke Nukem Forver (aka Did Not Finish) will kick both Gears and Killzones' A$$ES handsdown when its released.

[IPlayGames]

"Oh please Oh please Gears save us sony keeps coming out with all these games we can only compare them to u."

Lair vs. Gears
HS vs. Gears
RFOM vs. Gears
KZ2 vs. Gears
UT3 vs. ???

They should be something like this
Lair vs. Ace Combat
HS vs. 2 Worlds
RFOM vs. Gears
KZ2 vs. Halo 3
UT3 vs. BioShock
Any other game get owned by any ps3 title.

Yes xbots im saying KZ2 is a unfinished game not even in beta yet it will prob be released around this time next year so i think they have time go and put in veins and light.

What i want though is game play. make it more than five min. long and if the rumors are true about the online multiplayer world this game is gonna be sweet.

[SF49er408]

I THOUGH KILLZONE ONWED IT BUT, DAMN, GEARS LOOKS WAAAYYY BETTER. MORE DETAILED ENEMIES TOO. BUT KILLZONE REAL CLOSE

[MarioFromTexas]

come on guys KZ2 doesn't have a game close to it. This is coming from a guy who bought his 360 to play gears of war. Gears of war the charactors look fantastic but everything else looks blurred out. Just look at a building from 100 feet away and then look at it from 10 feet away, it's still looks the same (blurred)the building never gets detailed.

[DiLeCtioN]

was first person shooter the same as 3rd person. Gears is awesome Killzone 2 is awesome too.

[Cook1eMan]

For some reason people cant figure out the difference between the two. Your right.

[Bloodmask]

looks superior on Gears of War. On both the enemies and the environments.

Pics are a lot easier to judge than movies.

[Cook1eMan]

Im glad you sony kids keep pulling this s*** out of your asses. I mean this whole site has been over run by sony fanboys. Even the original forums where this was posted has brought on negativity from an unstable sony fanboy who cant keep him mouth shut with out pooring out there minds saying stuff that has nothing to do with it.

Also I've seen that a couple of you sony fanboys think xbox fanboys only compare sony games with Gears of War. Your wrong, just look up the 360 games and pick some of the many many more games that sony wishes it had.

Also Lair is not comparible to Ace Combat. You must have been pissed when you wrote that cause you lossed it. For one in Lair your riding a dragon and looking at mountainous terrain. In Ace Combat your looking at lush enviorments with ongoing combat everywhere. The only way to compare the two would be to have the pilot of the plane wrap a saddle on the plane and fly it like that. Not to mention he's only allowed to attack the guys with swords. It's not comparable get over yourself.

[timmyp53]

is a better comparison

[Rock Bottom]

lets we forget, kill zone isn't even in alphabase right now.

[SIX]

One looks like a high end PC game. The other looks like a CG cut scene.

[castdreams]

the killzone 2 screenshots were in rgb mode, and the gears were pictures were in indexed mode. This means that the killzone pics look smoother when downsised, and the gears look grainy. Whoever did this comparison is biased.

[Bathyj]

has anyone else noticed that the KZ2 shots are captured from a VIDEO of the game actually being played, while the Gears shot, while done with the ingame engine aren't of someone playing, they are all staged high rez pics. Its not what you see while playing the game. Am I the only one who things this isn't the best way to do a true comparison?

Anyway are we just comparing graphic here or comparing games because KZ2 has a ton more action onscreen at once and that makes it far more impressive. I dont care how pretty a still screen shot is cos thats not how I'll be playing the game. Thats the difference with PS3 games, even Resistance had a lot more going on at once and KZ has raised the bar again and I dont just mean enemies, I mean everything from explosions, to particle effects, bullet fire, environmental degredation, BEST BLOOD AND FIRE EVER, and so on. Gears is very pretty but looks so static. UT3 is already better than Gears anyway as far as graphics goes, no one can deny that.

[SIX]

Well said Bathyj....

[JokesOnYou]

sony kids, there's a video comparison posted, Gears is superior also in motion, nice try but no more excuses, kz is just a good looking shooter, maybe when it gets out of pre pre pre concept art stage and hopefully add a few textures it will stand beside gears in the graphics dept, but sony devs are known for big talk and underdelivering so dont hold your breath, you need air to make excuses you know?=

JOY

[highps3]

Umm I DONT CARE!

Have fun with Gears.. Ill take Killzone any day... Besides Gears is best on a PC anyhow...

[airforcex]

You were the ones saying KZ2 looked better. You are the ones coming up with excuses. I was playing GoW today (after seeing the trailer) and realize that you guys don't know what you are talking about. The details in the faces, BACKGROUNDS, and the effects in GoW are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better. I will say that KZ kills Halo. But don't even dare to compare graphics with the master; you will lose. Today, or when KZ releases.

[airforcex]

all

[airforcex]

You see the Killzone trailer and say: best looking game ever, blah, blah, blah. When you see that this is not the case, you come up with excuses. GoW looks better in trailers, in game, online, etc, etc. And you know what; Killzone doesn't have to look better, as long as its fun!

[jax07]

Every one saying that gears looks better is a fool. notice how every shot taken frim killzone are not upclose to show how wonderful the character models look? Also to prove how biased this is the last two comparisons are from the poster in killzone to a gears screenshot. Gears looked good but not nearly like killzone does. Compare the best shots of the two and not the worst of killzones to gears and you will see killzones is better.

[daboosa]

theses two game are different i think where GoW excells is grafics, but thats where they obviously worked on it!!
but Killzone 2 has worked on how much stuff they can get on screen at one time eg the storm, the enermys, breaking walls ect and thts wats better than GoW! it will be much better playing watching wats goin on the back ground where on gears it can start to get a bit dull and quiet round the streets

[Pika-pie]

Gears does no way look that good when you are playing it. Those pictures are way to flattering I was playing gears last night. Those screen grabs look way more polished.

They have obviously manufactured this comparison to lean more towards the 360. By chosing developer screen grabs from gears and purposly selecting ugly screen grabs from the KZ trailer. Doesnt seem fair to me.

[rowdy 1]

I do agree. Anyway KZ2 looks better than gears and halo. But if all you've got to talk about is gears then HA HA!!. KZ2 will a longer game with better gameplay, some of you folks act like you've played every level of KZ and have seen everything it has to offer. We'll all see and will be able to compare when we actually get to play the game.

[R0l3]

Yes, ok we understand that Gears of War does look better at the moment. But does Marcus look even close to a real person? He looks too CGI. I believe Rico from Killzone 2 look slightly more comparable.

[R0l3]

Yes, ok we understand that Gears of War does look better at the moment. But does Marcus look even close to a real person? He looks too CGI. I believe Rico from Killzone 2 look slightly more comparable.

[kevin]

how does regular pc, and middle gen graphics(gears of war), look better than ingame cg(killzone 2)? one comparison could be:

killzone 2 polygons on screen vs. gears of war polygons on screen

winner

killzone 2, killzone 2, and killzone 2, and killzone 2 again

the only good graphics that were on glitches of ware were the super unrealistic blood affects

also why compare a game that is still not even the tip of ps3s iceburg, to a game that exceeded the 180s max, that is also funny

also, im very sure you all wouldnt think that anything looks better than killzone 2 if you saw the actual trailer of killzone 2, killzone 2 has 2 different realtime engines, that alone makes this killzone 2 superior to anything out, and comming out, that means they have been simultaneously working on two different engines, please guys i have just watched the killzone 2 trailer, with a revitalized high speed internet, and if you see the trailer runnin smooth, trust nothing looks better than killzone 2, unless your talking about cutscene cg graphics vs. unfinished cg graphics killzone 2 that are realtime so please get better eyecare, it helps

oh yeah, i just found something for the people that say that glitches of ware looks better than killzone 2, and it has more enemies on screen, cause as it so happens, there is one trailer that has about 15 people on screen, actual charaters with tons and tons of polygons for each, here you go:

http://www.gametrailers.com...

so please, dont say things you dont research

[DFresh]

please
xbots
Killzone 2 is obviously better you can't even admit it and the publishers even said that the game will look twice as good as the game play that was shown at the e3 show
so with out hesitation I declare that Killzone 2 will be the best first shooter game ever in the history of gaming
why?
over $20 million invested into the game and over 2 years to make
clearly they will surprise us
and this is only the beginning

[SaMiR111]

GEARS OF WAR ALL THE WAY! ITS FOR MEN Killzone 2 = kids

[SaMiR111]

GOW TEXTURES LIKE THE REAL LIFE! ITS TO CLEAR WOW AND BIG ENEMIES